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VeryMelon SUPER SOMETHING ELSE
SUPER SOMETHING ELSE
Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:09:57 PM

Because minutes take forever in Dragon Ball land.

HandsomeRob Completely trustworthy from The world that never was Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Completely trustworthy
Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:17:04 PM

Plus Jiren is probably too powerful for that to work.

Also, Saiyan Pride would demand they fight him head on and beat him like Warriors anyway.

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Blueace Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:21:27 PM

Not to mention the risk of him outright vaporizing chunks of the arena.

slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:21:41 PM

[up][up] It took Jiren an awful amount of effort to just knock out an exhausted Vegeta.

Jiren's kind of an idiot.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:21:58 AM

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:26:45 PM

[up]It's the opposite. Jiren was using the bare minimum of effort to knock out Vegeta.

slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:30:56 PM

Well that wasn't a productive idea.

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
HandsomeRob Completely trustworthy from The world that never was Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Completely trustworthy
Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:01:50 PM

To be fair.

It's Vegeta. Even maximum effort would take time.

Guy just doesn't know when to quit.

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MightyMatilda Never Forget from New Jersey, USA
Never Forget
Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:24:16 PM

I'm not the first to say this, that story arc would make more sense if there was no time limit.

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randomness4 Snow Girl from The Land of Inconvenience
Snow Girl
Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:25:48 PM

Or if the time limit actually mattered.

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PushoverMediaCritic Now my Spirit Ball is on autopilot! from the Italy of America Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Now my Spirit Ball is on autopilot!
Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:28:57 PM

I think the entirety of the last 3 episodes took place in 1 minute of in-universe time.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:40:17 PM

That's not the "honorable" way to win either.

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HandsomeRob Completely trustworthy from The world that never was Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Completely trustworthy
Sep 22nd 2019 at 6:41:08 PM

[up]

Indeed.

Let me just say that deliberately doing something stupid and claiming that's more honourable is the reason people shit on honour.

So thanks a lot for that DB. This is why people think Good Is Dumb

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Anomalocaris20 Please from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Please
Sep 22nd 2019 at 7:38:07 PM

They should have just not had a time limit.

Not only did it dilate time even worse than in Namek's endgame (guess that's what happens when you have two Friezas in one place), it didn't actually affect anything since the tournament ended in full elimination anyway.

The closest it came was when Hit considered the strategy of freezing Jiren in place and running out the clock rather than directly eliminating him, but that could easily have been written differently.

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randomness4 Snow Girl from The Land of Inconvenience
Snow Girl
Sep 22nd 2019 at 7:38:44 PM

[up][up]Well, people also do it when the stakes aren't as high...so who cares?

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 22nd 2019 at 7:40:24 AM

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Sailor11sedna Another Kuiper Senshi
Another Kuiper Senshi
Sep 22nd 2019 at 8:44:57 PM

Vegeta: "Let me get this straight. Instant Transmission, Multi-Form, and gigantism are all derived from chi-control, not magic." Yardratian (female?): "That's how they work here, anyway." Vegeta: "So I could have come here and learned all of those years ago?" Yardratian: "Well, Goku said you were going to be kind of a jerk for a while until you had some time to chill, so—" Vegeta: "Yes, I understand. I understand perfectly."

Three weeks later

  • pop*
Vegeta: "Kakarot you selfish IMBICILE—" (Goku dodges without thinking) Vegeta: "Ah, of course, your hair is silver, like mine WON'T BE FOR ANOTHER 25 YEARS IT SEEMS!!" Goku: "Just don't turn it off, Goku, please whatever you do, don't..."

Two weeks earlier

Goku: "Did you learn Ultra Instinct on this planet?" Merus: "I had to, just to be able to survive here." Goku: "I dunno, so far this planet doesn't seem so bad—" Popo: "We are Popo." Also Popo: "All is Popo." Also also Popo: "Join us. All must become Popo." Merus: "Alright, get to training!" Goku: "Wait—" Merus: "See ya, stay in Ultra Instinct! Stay calm!" Goku: "Somebody help me!!"

Also, did you know "Popo" autocorrects to "Poop"?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:02:23 PM

But haven't Multiform and turning into a giant been revealed to be useless? Like, decades ago? And that's why Toriyama never used them more than once?

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slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:11:19 PM

Huh watching these Rolf clips makes me think Rolf's culture is pretty Saiyan like.

I don't know I think I can buy Saiyan's resolving their disputes through ritual matches involving beating each other to death with giant space mackerels.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:13:06 AM

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
Saiga Helpful & reliable Pope of Bleach & DB threads from Sunny Australia Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Helpful & reliable Pope of Bleach & DB threads
Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:18:23 PM

Yes, both multiform and giantification were techniques with downsides that lead to them being no longer used.

I'm sure Toyotarou used those as examples we were already familiar and to explain where the basis behind those techniques came from.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:20:10 PM

It just seems weird and pointless.

Like Toyotaro inventing Merus to teach Goku Ultra Instinct when that is literally Whis's job, because Toyotaro wants his own Future Trunks.

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Saiga Helpful & reliable Pope of Bleach & DB threads from Sunny Australia Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Helpful & reliable Pope of Bleach & DB threads
Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:30:04 PM

I'll wait to see what Merus' deal is before commenting, but the Yardrat thing doesn't seem pointless at all to me. It's an easy way to establish that the Yardrat repertoire of techniques has more than just IT with some examples.

Obviously, Toyotarou doesn't want to immediately spoil the technique Vegeta is going to learn, so it's best to use some previously established abilities as an example instead of introducing some new techniques that won't ultimately be used. These techniques have been used before, so we don't need to see them in action again.

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Sailor11sedna Another Kuiper Senshi
Another Kuiper Senshi
Sep 22nd 2019 at 11:00:00 PM

Vegeta with Instant Transmission? That could have shaken up the Buu saga or Battle of Gods by having Vegeta try to take on the bad guys alone somewhere, and then go warn the others just before dying. Vegeta wouldn't have to resort to blowing himself up if he could strand his opponents somewhere.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
Sep 22nd 2019 at 11:01:23 PM

But he couldn't just strand them, because Instant Transmission isn't Instantaneous Movement. He could only go where he could sense ki.

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PushoverMediaCritic Now my Spirit Ball is on autopilot! from the Italy of America Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Now my Spirit Ball is on autopilot!
Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:10:32 PM

There's a baseball minigame in Kakarot, and Hard Mode has Yamcha as the pitcher.

My JoJo Part 5 fighting game idea.
slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:11:16 PM

Okay that's it, time to set up shop.

There will never be a better Dragon Ball game ever again.

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
unnoun Everybody's Aunt Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Everybody's Aunt
Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:52:30 PM

It looks so fucking good. On every level.

The action.

The memes.

Something for everybody, and every Dragon Ball fan.

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