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Bexlerfu Khatun of the Azim Steppe from Mol Iloh Since: Nov, 2020
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#1851: Nov 3rd 2023 at 10:26:03 PM

I watched the first half of their initial win against the Spurs, and their offense could be roughly summed up as "give Luka the ball and pray". He's carrying them extremely hard, especially with Kyrie injured and now recovering.

He's 100% a magician, but the Mavs don't look like they have much of a plan. Which is a bit of a waste considering how great a passer he is, with a half-decent offensive system he could blow any defense wide open. It's night and day if you compare them to the Nuggets and the way they get the best out of their weapons (and Jokic, obviously).

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#1852: Nov 8th 2023 at 8:38:15 PM

Hypothetically, if the Warriors won the championship this year playing exactly how they are currently playing... who gets the MVP?

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#1854: Nov 9th 2023 at 11:51:47 AM

Either or. Does it go to Curry? He's performing at similar stats to his unanimous MVP season. Chris Paul? Getting him the Igoudala honorary lifetime achievement award?

The in-season tournament is over, right? Who won? Was it even for anything? What was the point?

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#1855: Nov 9th 2023 at 12:44:24 PM

The in-season tournament has barely started; many teams will play their first game in the tournament tomorrow.

Also, given how he is playing, there's zero chance Paul gets an MVP award no matter how the Warriors are doing. Right now Victor Wembeyama and Trae Young have better chances to win MVP that Chris Paul, to choose two random players of the 30 or so ahead of Chris Paul.

Edited by thok on Nov 9th 2023 at 12:49:05 PM

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#1856: Nov 9th 2023 at 12:59:36 PM

Warriors winning the chip would have no effect on the MVP because it's voted on prior to the finals.

Right now the MVP race is crazy packed but it's usually so early in the season.

Bexlerfu Khatun of the Azim Steppe from Mol Iloh Since: Nov, 2020
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#1857: Nov 9th 2023 at 6:43:49 PM

It's packed like it was packed last season. As in, a ton of fantastic players, and Jokic above them all.

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#1858: Nov 15th 2023 at 5:19:59 AM

So, given the recent fight in the Warriors game, how badly do you expect the punishment to be?

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#1859: Nov 27th 2023 at 7:12:03 PM

There's really nothing more that can be said about the Pistons right now... To DC? REALLY?!

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#1860: Dec 5th 2023 at 9:15:31 AM

Alright, thinking back to better times in Detroit. For a while, it has felt weird to me that Ben Wallace, the defensive heart of a defensive team, didn't win Finals MVP, since that would've helped his argument to be in the NBA 75 (he still SHOULD be, but more evidence would've helped).

Since I haven't watched those games in forever, I guess I couldn't remember how good Chauncey Billups' performance was. I saw someone point out a stat on, and I looked it up to confirm...

Billups shot 50-40-90 in a FINALS. He only missed 3 free throws. If he missed one less 3 or made one more, he was on the brink of going 50-50-100. The best 3 point shot on either team (not counting two players who made 1-1), best free throw shooter besides Lindsay Hunter (6-6), AND the best FG% besides Kobe and Rick Fox. And while doing that, he did everything except Blocks. He led BOTH teams in Assists, and only Ben, Tayshaun, and Kobe, got more Steals than him. Best offensive rating on either team, by a large margin.

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Bexlerfu Khatun of the Azim Steppe from Mol Iloh Since: Nov, 2020
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#1861: Dec 5th 2023 at 10:44:20 AM

Regarding Detroit, the strange thing is that you can't really see "the plan" like you do with the Spurs or, to a degree, the Wizards.

Spurs have a ton of young players, cap space, and no hopes for this year. They're experimenting, but you get the feeling that if they get a PG, things will easily click. They're looking for another high pick to get the final piece(s) they're missing.

DC has extremely mediocre and overpaid stars in Poole and Kuzma, and Poole has pretty much stated that he's in it for the money. They are planning to gather assets now, they'll be useless until the big contracts run out. It's The Process all over again.

Detroit though looks like a team where you should either see the future plan (like the Spurs), or that should already see results - compare with similarly-recently-bad-teams such as OKC or Orlando. But where you see young superstars like Ant reach the next level, Cade is disappointing.

It must be worrying. Things will eventually turn around, but...like the 2010 or so Kings, it's really hard to see how and when.

Edited by Bexlerfu on Dec 5th 2023 at 7:45:38 PM

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#1862: Dec 5th 2023 at 11:20:03 AM

I was saying that on a comment on this video about both Detroit and Chicago. The coaches and rosters aren't necessarily bad, but they've been constructed in a way that it's impossible to make real progress, when it looks like there's no plan in sight for years to come. How can you rebuild when (Bulls) ownership is content with having a once-star franchise be pack filler, or the front office is just that bad or inexperienced?

Kofie, a Secret Base writer and producer and Pistons fan, speaks on why the team is fundamentally broken.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Dec 5th 2023 at 1:22:25 PM

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#1863: Feb 3rd 2024 at 9:49:36 AM

Damn, no team signed Tony Snell. Hopefully they will next year. He's still currently only 32, not too old by pro sports standards.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1865: Apr 18th 2024 at 8:09:16 PM

Well, there goes a career.

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