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EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#276: Dec 12th 2011 at 7:12:12 AM

This is very intriguing. I am watching with interest but lack anything to add on at the moment.

Carry on the good work.

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Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#277: Dec 12th 2011 at 7:40:03 AM

[up][up] Loving it~

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#278: Dec 12th 2011 at 9:13:35 AM

Juggernauts

Simply put, a Juggernaut is an individual capable of utilising magical energy to enhance their own physical efficacy; they can increase strength, running speed, reflexes, healing rate, sensory perception, and various other details temporarily.

A Juggernaut does not have to be proficient in any other sort of magic; likewise, most magicians do not learn to be Juggernauts. The skills are effectively independent of one another, as focusing energy outward and inward are radically different processes.

As mentioned before, all Wraiths are Juggernauts to some degree. Doppelganger warriors are very easily mistaken for Juggernauts, but they operate on different principles.

Despite popular assumption, Juggernauts are not contractually obligated to declare "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch" as an introduction.

edited 12th Dec '11 9:14:51 AM by Exelixi

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EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#279: Dec 12th 2011 at 10:02:20 AM

Now that I think about it, maybe I will try contributing...

Anything said on the idea of magical run-off affecting wildlife and the environment around leynodes?

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#280: Dec 12th 2011 at 11:51:30 AM

Can anyone tell me if the other Goblinoids (Hobs, Bugbears.) Have been discussed. Also the 3 types of fiend.

Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#281: Dec 12th 2011 at 1:52:32 PM

-Eyebrow-

I'm a D&D player too, bro, but D&D isn't the be all and end all of mythology and RPG tropes. There's nothing outside of Gygax's head that suggest there needs to be three orders of demon, or half a dozen species of goblin.

As far as demons, yes, God has covered that to some degree.

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#282: Dec 12th 2011 at 3:55:32 PM

That sounded pretty condensending even if you did not mean it to. I just asked a question

Besides Bugbears and Hobgoblins are in pretty much all settings.

Also by the 3 types of fiends I did not mean 3 types of Demons I meant Demons, Devils and Yugloths/Daemons.

edited 12th Dec '11 4:00:58 PM by Envyus

Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#283: Dec 12th 2011 at 5:59:20 PM

I've never heard of bugbears in a non-D&D RPG. Hobgoblins, being Tolkein, are fairly prolific, though.

And, again, I've never heard of anything other than D&D that divides what are essentially all demons into three distinct species.

As far as being condescending, it was intended. I'm somewhat upset that people seem to be physically incapable of following the instructions set forth on the first bloody post in order to prevent half the thread from being taken up by questions like this. We are not communicating any information through private messaging, as that would defeat the point of this nifty little construct. I'll spell it out, again. Read. The. Goddamn. Thread. It isn't that hard.

edited 12th Dec '11 6:03:19 PM by Exelixi

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EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
Some Guy Or Something
#284: Dec 12th 2011 at 8:47:23 PM

Leynodes and their effects on their immediate environment

While few people have been able to travel to a leynode and report back safely, there have been successful expeditions. While the majority of these expeditions attempt to understand just the amount of power these nodes contain, a few have recorded somewhat interesting effects of magical run-off.

Leynodes contain vast amounts of raw magical energy and with such a condensed mass of power in such a small place (comparitively) there are a few noticeable effects on the surrounding area. Basic flora such as grass seems to be almost completely unaffected by this residue, with a few cases of grass that cannot be destroyed being the only anomolies. However, more complex flora such as fruits and flowers have been commonly found to absorb the magic in some bizarre form of what is being called magisynthesis. They convert the magic into food for the cells but since magic has properties that far exceed that of sunlight, it seems to imbue the flora with new mutations such as lethal toxicity, burning hot to touch, and, in extremely rare cases, a kind of semi-sentinence.

Fauna, on the other hand, are an entirely different case. While the flora reacts in a rather uniform manner to this magical radiation by feeding on it, fauna have had so many different reactions that it is considered a distinct possibility that magic interacts with each fauna on a far more individual scale, to the extreme possibility of complete unique reactions, than thought possible. These can be minor mutations such as an extra eye or a bizarre pigment change in the flesh to growing a second heart or enabling the creature to utilize magic. All of these such mutations have only been recorded once each, in addition to quite a few others. Whether or not the reactions are truly unique or if we just haven't obtained enough test samples has not been confirmed.

Interestingly enough, this study is slowly beginning to attract members of both the scientific and magical fields of study. While it has yet to become a distinct study in and of itself, the name magicology has begun to grow popular for this growing field.

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#285: Dec 12th 2011 at 9:08:13 PM

[up][up]Ah ha you slipped up there are no Hobs in Tolkein.

Also I did read the Thread I just asked in case I glazed over it or somthing.

edited 12th Dec '11 9:08:38 PM by Envyus

Marr965 Insane from Teh intarwerbs Since: Oct, 2009
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#286: Dec 13th 2011 at 1:05:03 AM

[up]Okay, then, maybe we just ignore hobgoblins entirely, smartarse?

I quite like the way Heroes of Might and Magic 3 did it, where Hobgoblins are an upgrade from Goblins. So, we have "Hobgoblin" being a mistranslation of a military rank among the Goblins.

Goblins

Goblins are short and physically and mentally unimpressive, but have extremely good eyesight. As a result of this and their connection with Orcs, they tend to be used as scouts and hunting partners, but lack the true intelligence to be trained to a high degree. However, they have been used by certain Orcish clans (which have been ostracised by the others) as weapons of war.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#287: Dec 13th 2011 at 1:16:13 AM

We have Goblins already.

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#288: Dec 13th 2011 at 2:19:37 AM

[up][up]

Yeah, we already have Goblins.

We have elves, gnomes, dwarfs, giants, orcs, goblins and humans. Am I forgetting anyone?

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#289: Dec 13th 2011 at 6:36:31 AM

Use of hobgoblins as a "bigger, smarter goblin" was created by Tolkein, who later discovered his own factual error and corrected the mistake, calling them the "Uruk-hai".

I think Marr read the Orc/Goblin things, hence the orc clans using goblins as weapons of war being ostracised, and was simply filling in a little space. I like it.

Paladin: Seeing as how the setting's magic can be construed as "applied geometry", I assumed that its study would be a branch of science; Sufficiently Analysed Magic and such.

edited 13th Dec '11 6:40:19 AM by Exelixi

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EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#290: Dec 13th 2011 at 10:26:58 AM

Ah, makes sense. I just thought that scientists would study it in a different way than magical scholars. In addition, the idea of magic is a pretty large field to study, so there could be many different "off-shoot" branches of study. Magicology being its effect on nature, for example as opposed to the study of how to harness magic.

However, I might just be getting a little carried away.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#291: Dec 13th 2011 at 12:36:30 PM

Mysticism The study of the primitive form of magic, usually involving curses, seyonces, rule of three, the kind of stuff that is a lot more subtle and harder to quantify, seemingly less scientific.

Wizardry MAGIC SCIENCE!!!

Marr965 Insane from Teh intarwerbs Since: Oct, 2009
Insane
#292: Dec 13th 2011 at 12:47:18 PM

[up][up][up] Yup, that's exactly what I was going for.

Re: hobgoblins. Maybe some goblins don't undergo metamorphosis, and these are known as hobgoblins? That would mean that any goblin over the age of about 14 would be a hobgoblin, making the term "hobgoblin" a measure of seniority among goblins. Unfortunately, there's no way to tell whether any particular goblin is a hob or not, so all goblins are trained in the arts of war and in the things that orcs usually use goblins for.

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#293: Dec 13th 2011 at 12:57:55 PM

"hobgoblin" originally denoted a goblin that was friendly(ish) to humans (Seelie Court, that is to say)

Hm. . .

Maybe a "Hobgoblin" is a goblin that for whatever reason gains sapient-level intelligence; they'd have an odd place in society, not able to become fully-fledged warriors, hunters, et cetera, but they would be open to merchantry and other essential tasks.

Note that originally the concept I had for Orcs was actually three stages long, and the "top tier" so to speak were Trolls, but someone already called trolls.

I think I might outline that third stage and see if it's well-received. If so, we'll find a name.

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Marr965 Insane from Teh intarwerbs Since: Oct, 2009
Insane
#294: Dec 13th 2011 at 2:46:00 PM

Maybe some (genetically recessive) goblins undergo an altered metamorphosis and become hobs?

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#295: Dec 13th 2011 at 3:09:18 PM

[up]I Like that one. Also what about Bugbears? Personally I think they should they be a different race entirely.

edited 13th Dec '11 3:17:15 PM by Envyus

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#296: Dec 13th 2011 at 3:34:52 PM

[up][up] I had idea for Orcs who were punished by being reverted to Goblins, maybe if they go through a second metamorphosis the become hobs.

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Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#297: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:00:59 PM

Hey guys I'm back!! grin My friends pooled their resources and bought me a new computer! Best Christmas present ever!! [awesome]

...And wow, I have a LOT to catch up to! Comments later...

And Exelixi: maybe we should post the contribution rules in the project page? They'd be easier to find there.

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Lesbarian
#298: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:28:54 PM

Bugbears as you're imagining them are a D&D-only thing. "Bugbear" is simply a derivation of an Irish word, "bug," which is best equated with "evil", and it was a fairly generic term for an Unseelie Fairy.

edited 13th Dec '11 5:36:30 PM by Exelixi

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#299: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:32:29 PM

System glitch

edited 13th Dec '11 5:33:13 PM by Exelixi

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#300: Dec 13th 2011 at 7:02:02 PM

[up][up][up] Your friends are awesome :D

Also I think I'm going to work on my own spin on the Mimic.

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