Burn Notice

Honestly I like Dead Larry as a villain.

Besides, seeing Otter from Animal House be evil is priceless.

edited 11th Oct '11 5:26:38 PM by MarkVonLewis

40 years later and he's still Otter. A bit character who barely left an impression in the movie.

And what connection does that have with him being evil? How is that a bonus? Might as well say, "Watching Henry from Punky Brewster be evil is priceless."

edited 11th Oct '11 6:22:33 PM by johnnyfog

He's not supposed to be Evil!Michael. The point of his character is to show what kind of people Michael used to hang out with.

Most of the Myth Arc bad guys on the show are images about where Michael could have ended up if he didn't have such a strong dedication to the job. Carla, Victor and Simon were all just as good at their job as Michael was, but they fell into the machine and took different (evil) paths. Larry is someone who knows some of the dirty secrets Michael has done and he is constantly trying to get Michael to admit he isn't morally untouchable. Michael doesn't want to admit it because the job requires some bad things to happen, if he starts to take things personally he can't keep a cool head on whether those bad things needed to happen.

I can imagine that Larry initially felt some guilt over his first shady deal and then decided to rationalize things so that he couldn't feel guilty anymore. That's where he eventually ended up as a sociopath who seems to enjoy killing "Some people live, some people die." That's also contrasted by Jesse, who was originally a field operative but could not put his personal feelings aside.

THREAD NECRO!

Anyone who knows how law works: Is there any chance Fi could do her time in Britain, since she bombed one of their embassies(kinda)?

It was a consulate, so the whole "considered british terrority" is probably not given. Also, British prison for a former IRA operative = bad bad bad bad thing.

edited 5th Jul '12 10:13:55 AM by 3of4

Exactly why I asked. Fi goes to a British prison = Fi gets shived to death by lights out on the first day of her sentence.

And even if Michael finds Anson and beats the truth out of him, Fi's still got arson and one murder charge to deal with. (Assuming Larry didn't survive, which seems a safe assumption considering Bly's words in the season 6 premiere.)

If they manage to capture Anson and get the whole truth from him Fi may get some leniency. Regardless she still bombed the consulate even if her particular bomb wasn't responsible for the death of the security guards.

Truthfully, my guess for what is going to happen is that Fi will get a deal working with the FBI or some other government acronym for her expertise in explosives. It was heavily hinted at with her dissection of the truck explosion that supposedly killed Michael and the show has always played with the Recruiting the Criminal trope.

Yeah, but there's "working with criminals" and "working with an ex-IRA member that blew up a British consulate". I don't think any legit intelligence organization will get within 20 miles of her.

Another hypothetical question: Assume Michael never gets to Anson and Fi gets tried and convicted. Assuming the judge throws the library at her, what's she looking at in the state of Florida for 2 homicides and an arson charge?

Fi gets to work with the CIA, sweeping most of the things under the rug for it. But then Anson tells the brits and FIONA will be the one ending up with a Burn Notice.

Wouldn't it be a federal charge?

edited 6th Jul '12 9:51:18 AM by 3of4

Jossed. Fi's already been burned in an earlier season; Mike got outed in Ireland as an American, and since Fi was close to Michael, neither of them can go back to Ireland. Ever.

Thomas Wolfe nods sadly.

Not as an intelligence operative but as a consultant, they were already pushing the limits in the previous season with Fiona being brought along on Michael's CIA missions.

I think the show wants you to forget about the IRA thing.

Also I love this season.

Fi in prison is great because A) It gives us a cool narrative for the B plot and B) It stops Fiona from CONSTANTLY whining to Michael about how he should just give up.

Or how he should just shoot the Bad Guy Of The Week.

Fully agreed, it's done an excellent job at shaking up the status quo for show.

And now Weston and Co. have the hybrid Terminator from Rise of the Machines on their side. Okay, fine, a character played by the same actress, but she behaves the same, setting decoys and using people to get what she wants.

And she's not a heartless monster, there's a reason she does what she does. (Odds on her brother being on Anson's side?)

Truthfully, the whole "Anson blackmailing Michael with Fiona's freedom" arc frustrated me because Michael and co. are so good at figuring their way out of situations that the fact they had no choice but to cooperate didn't seem quite right. Yes, they went through the typical series of leads to get one step ahead of Anson's greater plans but along the way the what the entire team (not just Michael and Fi) did was straight up traitorous. The writers put themselves into a corner in order to make Anson into a serious threat.

Besides that, I am really enjoying the general shake-ups in the show. Instead of each episode being half stand-alone Client of the Week and half Myth Arc, they are running two Myth Arcs side-by-side. The fourth season was mostly Michael working to prove himself to the CIA again and then the remnants of the "Burn Notice Club." This season is Michael tracking down Anson, gathering support to do so and Fiona figuring her way through prison life.

*Gives KJ Mackley a cookie* Nice call. She had to sell out her supplier to do it, but you called it.

And we get a Tonight, Someone Dies ep next week. I'm thinking Jesse or that lady CIA contact whose name I don't remember off the top of my head. (I wanna say Pierce?)

edited 20th Jul '12 9:48:14 PM by CEOIII

Yes Pierce. Who knows, maybe she'll go back to teaching statistics...

Or Anson gives a final fuck you to Michael and blows his head out rather than be taken.

Jesse....why would they go for the work and money to get him into the opening finally only to kill him not even mid-season?

And there would finally be Terminator Chick. It's probably either her or Pierce. Or we're getting an Wild Card with it.

Anson doing that would be quite a shock.

I'm not sure thats in his character.

I'm guessing Nate. Why else would they bring him back?

First! Anyone else catch tonight's episode?

My mom and I were watching and we think Rebeccasniped off Anson, was using an overpowered rifle for the job, and through and throughed both men. We started suspecting Nate would be the goner when Mike sent him to tail Anson and he said, "I've got this." They just let us think Anson would be the killer instead of a sniper outside.

edited 26th Jul '12 7:35:21 PM by Journeyman

I don't know, I think that there must be another antagonist out there, since, someone was helping Anson get his supplies, and there has to be something to do with the rest of the episodes still left in the season.

Yeah, I thought of that. I thought maybe it was someone in MI 6 but I'm not sure. Probably not.

You know what? We don't really know what happened to Management, do we?