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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
Surrounded by weirdoes
We are a couple phases away for the next big crossover, probably.
Wake me up at your own risk.
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
Takat Empress
Err House of X seems like something for the X-Men in film that can be handle later on. Considering we are reintroducing mutants on film that might seem too high of a bar to set with that storyline serving as the opening on the X-Men series. I do think it has great potential for a third installment.
Edited by Mizerous on Dec 1st 2019 at 9:07:15 AM
Mileena Madness
I mean, I wouldn't adopt the entire House of X storyline, just hint at it.
Oh, bother.
If Sentinels are in play then maybe Nimrod and Bastion will make appearances.
Disgusted, but not surprised
Nimrod is from the future, though, and Bastion is just Nimrod and the Master Mold combined together and pushed through the Siege Perilous.
...yes, X-Men comics are weird.
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
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Those certainly are words.
Edited by fredhot16 on Dec 1st 2019 at 6:50:57 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Let’s just start with the Friends of Humanity and Sentinels. Something a bit more relatable yet a lot more fantastical than the Fox Men.
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
So it'd just be normal dudes and robots fighting superhumans?
Seems kinda unfair.
One Strip! One Strip!
State of the art killbots probably led by a racist super robot like Master Mold. It’s better than the umpteenth Magneto plot.
The Element of Hyperbole.
The villains in Agents of SHIELD are well regarded, right?
Kaze ni Nare!
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
Yes?
Ordinary Corrupt Android Love
You got the likes of Ward, Hive, Talbot, and Gideon Malick to look forward to, so it has a leg up.
Self-serious autistic metalhead who goes by any pronouns. (avvie template source)
The Element of Hyperbole.
I'd like something to watch is all. And anything with good villains is a bonus.
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
Go nuts, then! Watch it! It won't be a waste of your time!
I heard that it gets in it's stride around halfway to season one?
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
You heard right.
If you know about the big twist of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, then note that that's the exact point where the first seasons picks up.
Hell, I still remember watching that episode, then watching Winter Soldier and being glad I did. Back then, there was definitely a stronger connection between the movies and the show...even if it was still somewhat one-sided.
One Strip! One Strip!
What is “pushed through the Siege Perilous” supposed to mean? I thought the Siege Perilous was the seat from Arthurian mythology that no one except Galahad could sit in.
Oh, bother.
Bastion's kind of an interesting villain since he starts out as "just" a Sentinel carrying out his programming. But by the end, he's trying to wipe out Mutants because he genuinely hates them and wants them dead.
"We are not programmed to hate you. We have grown beyond our programming."
Disgusted, but not surprised
Funny but not helpful
In X Men, the Seige Perilous is a artifact that can unfold into a mystical doorway and anyone that steps through it will have their memories erased so they can have a second chance at life
The X Men used it as a non lethal way to dispose of their enemies for a while but when the Reavers showed up, Psylocke decided that the X Men had no chance against them and mind controlled the X Men to walk through the Seige Perilous so they wouldn’t die
Anyway, prior to that the X Men were fighting super sentinel from the future Nimrod and they couldn’t stop it so Rogue wrestled Nimrod through the Seige perilous, sacrificing herself to stop the Sentinel
Except not. Rogue is a weird special case so the SP sent Rogue to the Savage Land and then took the Carol Danvers echo in her brain and gave her her own body but then split Rogue’s life force between the two of them so they were both dying
Comics are weird.
Edited by Bocaj on Dec 1st 2019 at 11:24:23 AM
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
Well, that sounds like a dick move.
Funny but not helpful
That’s X-Men comics for you
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
The Element of Hyperbole.
Is the X-men the single most impenetrable arm of the Marvel universe? XD I think it might be.
Actually, we were talking about Dr Strange a few days ago, and now I'm curious: Are there any really good Strange stories that people would recommend? Preferably something that's relatively standalone that works without needing to know a huge amount of backstory?
Edited by GNinja on Dec 1st 2019 at 4:40:21 PM
Kaze ni Nare!
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
I've never read about it, but there's a story called Triumph and Torment where he works alongside Dr. Doom.
One Strip! One Strip!
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
There's that Silver Age comic we were talking about before where the whole universe got destroyed. Marvel's Silver Age in general was good stuff, loads of underrated comics from that era that get overlooked because DC's Silver Age was so full of absurd nonsense.
I just hope the MCU doesn't get carried away with its scale in the future.
The big thing that turns me off of reading comics is really the gargantuan scale that things can escalate to. I never find it as impressive as I'm supposed to, and it gets kinda alienating.
So far the MCU has done a really good job of keeping things mostly personal and framing even the far reaching things (like the Blip) from a comprehensible perspective.
Edited by GNinja on Dec 1st 2019 at 12:32:22 PM
Kaze ni Nare!