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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

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#100801: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:08:53 AM

And it's kind of a silly question for those particular characters anyway.

  • Steve: You're a big man in a suit of armor. But take that away and what are you?
  • Tony: The guy who made the suit. You get that I made this, right? It's not some fancy piece of alien hardware. I designed it, then the AI I designed built it according to my specifications.
  • Steve: Okay, but what if you didn't have it?
  • Tony: Then I'd make another one. What even IS this question?! Did you even see the Box of Scraps meme?!
  • Thor: Wait, you can just make another one?!
  • Tony: Yes! That's how the entire concept of "tools" works!
  • Thor: DUDE! I spent an entire movie finding the real power within myself!
  • Tony: Why would you do that?!
  • Thor: Because I lost my hammer!
  • Tony: WHY DON'T YOU HAVE BACKUP HAMMER REDUNDANCIES?!
  • Thor: I DON'T KNOW THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION
  • Steve: ...
  • Tony: ...
  • Thor: I'll be back. I need to go see a dwarf.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 18th 2019 at 7:09:35 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#100802: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:11:12 AM

Dwarves don't work for free.

It was a hand me down from Odin anyways since Hela used it(and was worthy enough she can hold it as she crushes it into oblivion)

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Apr 18th 2019 at 6:11:36 AM

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#100803: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:12:47 AM

In fairness Tony didn’t not know that his true power was his beastly brain

He just needed a bit of time to endure some Avengers ptsd before he was ready to start macguyvering some nonsense weapons while waiting for his suit to charge

With Thor, they don’t really address this much but his dad really fucked up and let Thor get the idea that he was only powerful and worthy with Mjolnir. It’s all well and good to teach someone the value of not starting realm wars but Odin kinda fucked up both his sons. And likely his daughter

Odin’s kind of a bad dad!

Edited by Bocaj on Apr 18th 2019 at 9:14:25 AM

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#100804: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:16:16 AM

> “Take away the heroes powers for the whole movie to prove their strength comes from them, not their powers.

I feel it's due to their budget involved,greenscreens and computer wizardry cost

"We don't have the money for them to use their superpowers for the whole movie,let's go half way and say they lose their superpowers or something"

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#100805: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:18:09 AM

I’d believe that if it wasn’t marvel

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#100807: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:22:48 AM

Marvel started out as a fairly small studio, mind.

That's why we only saw glimpses of the Hulk in the Chitauri battle.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100808: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:23:36 AM

Yeah, they did a nice inverse of the story in Captain Marvel. Which is a good thing, considering that they already did it three times (remember, even Peter had to learn that "if he is nothing without his suit, he shouldn't have it").

I think we have now well established that all our heroes don't need any crutches. Time to move on.

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#100809: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:42:23 AM

I mean that by movie three of Thor and Iron Man they have the money for superpowers

And it’s not like Thor Ragnarok was light on action and special effects after he lost his hammer

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#100810: Apr 18th 2019 at 7:17:00 AM

After losing the Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos will have to learn that the true power to kill half of the universe comes within himself.

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#100811: Apr 18th 2019 at 8:00:52 AM

Courtesy of the Late Show: The cast of the Avengers answer a variety of questions about themselves and the upcoming Endgame film.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#100812: Apr 18th 2019 at 8:17:13 AM

A movie where Carol’s powers are absorbed by Rogue would be a good vehicle for a Carol-trains-Photon movie: Carol is laid out just before the climax, and I’m he final stretch of the film Monica has to figure out how to prevent the same thing from happening to her while getting through to an increasingly unstable Rogue.

Or it could stay strictly on Carol, while she doesn’t have to get depowered at all. They could treat it like a Parasite plot with Superman: she gets her powers back in due time, but Rogue keeps he power she’s taken and Carol has to figure out how to defeat her without putting herself at risk.

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#100814: Apr 18th 2019 at 1:15:27 PM

[up] I can't decide whether I hate these types of movie tie-in car commercials or find them cute.

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#100815: Apr 18th 2019 at 2:09:09 PM

Most of the time they're obnoxious, but this particular one was really cute, I really liked it.

Man, what if there's actually a scene of Ant-Man going into Thanos's body and trying to kill him from the inside? It's not that far-fetched of an idea, it's just the butt part that makes it a meme, and he could just go into Thanos's ear, or nose.

Like, there was even a scene in Civil War when Ant-Man went into Iron Man's suit to break some of the sensitive electronics, so it's not even a concept foreign to the MCU.

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#100816: Apr 18th 2019 at 2:11:03 PM

I'm imagining the scene of Antman going in

"Alright I'm in"

-Mission impossible music-

"Where the hell is this guy's heart,wait what was that"

-Is swarmed by White Blood cells-

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#100817: Apr 18th 2019 at 2:11:46 PM

The Atom & Aquaman once entered Batman’s body & they did fine.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100818: Apr 18th 2019 at 2:16:56 PM

Honestly this obsession with Ant-man entering Thanos body is getting really disturbing….

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#100819: Apr 18th 2019 at 2:24:10 PM

IIRC Beast Boy did it to SatanTrigon in Teen Titans as a whale in the ear.

But yeah, I'm not overly fond of how obsessive the internet gets with memes. Funny the first time, but rapidly starts to become obnoxious. And for some things, just plain creepy.

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#100820: Apr 18th 2019 at 4:14:08 PM

Ant-Man's minimum safe size is still too big to infiltrate much beyond the alimentary canal, and his points of entry are limited beyond that anyway; can't very well syringe him into Thanos's bloodstream.

From a practical sense, there's also the matter that realistic-looking internal shots of viscera is simply not pleasant to look at, and generally not something you want an excess of in your popcorn-selling summer blockbuster for all ages. There's a reason Iron Man flying through the Chitauri Leviathan is limited to a helmet shot, and Drax inside the Abelisk is just a close-up of him stabbing a bright yellow cellophane wall.

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#100822: Apr 19th 2019 at 4:51:19 PM

The main cast of Endgame play most likely to.

My takeaway is that we need a Captain America and Wolverine musical movie set in World War 2 starring Chris Evans and Hugh Jackman (and a musical might be the only thing that could convince Hugh to be Wolverine again).

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#100823: Apr 19th 2019 at 5:20:49 PM

“What’s Up, Bub?”

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#100824: Apr 19th 2019 at 5:24:35 PM

I was thinking if they recast wolverine they'll go with a much younger wolferine rather then the gruff guy with claws in the fox movies

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#100825: Apr 19th 2019 at 5:46:56 PM

Seriously? If anything, a new Wolverine should be MORE gruff. Hugh Jackman was too handsome and tall, comic Wolverine is ugly and short.


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