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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#64376: Nov 24th 2021 at 10:35:06 AM

Basically imagine if in the final arc of Dragon Ball, Goku's fight with Piccolo was randomly interrupted by the arrival of Raditz who kills Piccolo and takes his place as the final boss.

Thats Kaguya, basically her story in a nutshell. Kishimoto wound up writing himself into a hole with how overpowered he made Madara and wrote one of the absolute worst ways to get out of it.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 24th 2021 at 10:35:26 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#64377: Nov 24th 2021 at 10:38:49 AM

Yeah that sucks

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#64378: Nov 24th 2021 at 11:35:53 AM

And this also ties into the Uchiha favoratism.

As Black Zetsu showed up and revealed that he is an ancient immortal who literally planned everything that happened in the Naruto world all to resurrect Kaguya, including every atrocity Madara had done.

So Kaguya was also used to completely absolve Madara of all responsibility exactly like what also happened with Obito and Sasuke.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
#64379: Nov 24th 2021 at 11:39:34 AM

Only in Naruto can there be two major characters (Obito and Madara) to simultaenously be responsible for every bad thing that happened, but also turn out to have done nothing wrong.

Edited by Awesomekid42 on Nov 24th 2021 at 2:41:16 PM

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#64380: Nov 24th 2021 at 11:39:43 AM

Wait, if Madara was too overpowered to kill, how did they beat Kaguya?

Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
#64381: Nov 24th 2021 at 11:40:47 AM

From what I remember, one of Kaguya's children (not Black Zetsu, a different son) arrived and gave Naruto and Sasuke a massive upgrade.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#64382: Nov 24th 2021 at 11:42:19 AM

They sealed her back in the moon.

So she was freed from the moon but the fight ends with them trapping her back into the moon again, this time with Black Zetsu as well so there's no one who would want to free her again.

[up] That would be the Sage of Six Paths

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 24th 2021 at 11:42:59 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#64383: Nov 24th 2021 at 11:42:50 AM

[up]X3 Combination of her not having any skill and Ninja Jesus giving Naruto and Sauske the ability to shove her into a moon

Edited by Pokesamus on Nov 24th 2021 at 11:43:05 AM

Mrbda241 Spectator Since: Feb, 2016
Spectator
#64384: Nov 24th 2021 at 12:02:37 PM

Which is why Neji was right all along, everyone was literally a slave to fate.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#64385: Nov 24th 2021 at 12:48:06 PM

Doesn’t that break a major theme of the story?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#64386: Nov 24th 2021 at 12:49:21 PM

Pretty much yes.

Thats Naruto for ya. Naruto himself was literally the Jesus of like 3 different prophecies.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 24th 2021 at 12:50:01 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ToadTV Since: Oct, 2019
#64387: Nov 24th 2021 at 12:52:41 PM

Speaking of Naruto…

Akatsuki VS Organization XIII

I am to believe that Organization XIII stomps. Oh well.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#64388: Nov 24th 2021 at 12:52:41 PM

That theme was broken the moment we learn Naruto has a super special bloodline that makes him really strong. So in the end, Negi was just prove right.

Bazingamo33 The Tiny Man in the Teleprompter from The Super Anti Nothing Dimension Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
The Tiny Man in the Teleprompter
#64389: Nov 24th 2021 at 12:58:07 PM

As much as I’d like to harp on how Naruto started going downhill after the Pain arc, we should probably get back to making fictional characters from different franchises punch each other in the face.

So, anyone know a good opponent for Frieza? Megatron and Sephiroth have long since passed being outclassed, but Saint Seiya’s Hades might be good from what I’ve heard.

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#64390: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:04:46 PM

About Akatsuki vs. Organization XIII, I feel like all of their unique properties such as Itachi's powerful genjutsu, Deidara's explosions, and Pain's multiple bodies would work in tandem to be a huge pain in the ass for them.

It's been 3000 years…
Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#64391: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:06:41 PM

The akatsuki have a bunch of neat abilities to them, but KH stats are just so far above Naruto stats it wouldn’t matter.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, Bitch!
#64392: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:09:14 PM

[up][up][up] Sephiroth's actually gotten Stronger as of the Remake, and might get even stronger still as it goes on.

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ToadTV Since: Oct, 2019
#64393: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:14:38 PM

I’ve heard Sephiroth as an opponent to Cell more than Frieza, honestly.

Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#64394: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:14:51 PM

[up][up]Don’t think that matters unless he gets into bullshit levels of being able to destroy a universe over a hundred times over

Edited by Pokesamus on Nov 24th 2021 at 1:15:02 AM

Mrbda241 Spectator Since: Feb, 2016
Spectator
#64395: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:15:01 PM

2[up]I want Cell vs. Dark Samus more than that.

Edited by Mrbda241 on Nov 24th 2021 at 1:15:09 AM

Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
#64396: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:38:46 PM

Frieza vs Palpatine is probably the best fit for Frieza in regards to similarities, but I don't think Palpatine's anywhere near Frieza's level in power, so it would be pretty one-sided.

A Galactic Conqueror from either Marvel or DC would probably be Frieza's most likely opponent if he's ever in a Death Battle.

ToadTV Since: Oct, 2019
#64397: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:40:21 PM

I still think Frieza VS Megatron is his most likely option. It may not be one that’s liked by a lot of people (here, at least) but I think it’s the most probable option.

But there’s always room for surprises.

Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#64398: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:41:49 PM

If it is Freeza vs. Palpatine I hope they don't wank Palpatine to much. I remember a fan vs that put Palpatine at universal and stronger than Freeza.

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#64399: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:48:37 PM

He can take on a fleet of starships by himself in Rise of Skywalker with no assistance, so that seems pretty comparable to Frieza at the very least.

It's been 3000 years…
Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#64400: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:54:40 PM

You do know Frieza can punch a universe to death right?


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