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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I doubt it moves the needle much. If any.
I think we need to truly look at the possibility that most people have their minds made up. Trump is still workshopping attacks and sabotaging himself constantly in a crisis that affects everyone. Without Assange and Roger Stone, the Republican plan is "Hope Kanye pulls in black votes."
You know the saying "One thing any sports reporter hates is a game over by halftime?" Apply that to politics. Reporters are clearly bored stiff with this race and trying to make new controversies about Biden constantly.
Edited by Lightysnake on Aug 8th 2020 at 3:40:21 AM
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It just infuriates me that he could very well be re-elected for solving a problem that he helped create in the first place.
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I guess, after a night of pillaging and raping, a Viking wants a little something to go with his cocoa.
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Well I don't think that it's going to fix anything because 400 dollar is not enough.
We should also not fall prey to Accelerationism.
That way never helps anyone.
(It's also why the Communists in America were against the New Deal)
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 8th 2020 at 3:43:03 AM
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A lot of Republican states will fight this I bet.
The Republicans have shown they will murder their own children on the altars of Baal-Ze Trump.
I see no reason they'd fight this.
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Well his approval ratings are probably going to go up quite a bit but with this the Republican's effort to pass their 'cant sue employers' issue is basically dead in the water as they lost quite a bit of leverage they were trying to use.
And yeah the fact that no White House officials were at any negociations completely strikes me as this was just an elaborate stage show.
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I can see state level objection because it forces them to spend morny that they do not HAVE. Aren't states unable to deficit spend, or at least beyond a limit?
Secondly, does the federal government even have the power to compel states to fund a federal program in this manner?
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Trump has been pushing schools opening as normal very hard. Give it a few weeks, and he'll be taking hits when those schools that did open become infection clusters.
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Sure but like yesterday Chuck Schumer was saying the same thing about schools...
Really? Got a link for that? Not that I don't believe you, but it seems out of character for him to go "OPEN THE SCHOOLS" the way Trump does.
Secondly, even a senior Senator has nowhere near the profile that the President does. Worse comes to worse, Biden disavows that type of rhetoric.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
That was surprisingly hard to find.
Anyway, here you go
Schumer: "If we don't open up the schools, you're going to hurt the economy significantly."
I can't say I'm fond of a "but the economy!!" argument coming from a Democrat.
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Holy Hell, that was bad.
Yeah, not sure if its possible to pull off, but I'm all for primarying this guy now.
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Yeah it's bullshit. This was making the rounds on ERA as well and people then actually Watched the video and saw that it was a bullshit hit piece with an intentionally inflammatory headline knowing no one would watch the video. This is where that previous quote about sports reporters hating a game over by halftime and looking to blow up ANY controversy to drive up numbers.
I can't watch the video right now. What is he saying?
Guys...maybe we shouldn't just take a ten second clip out of context promoted by a poor site like the hill?
He's not saying "Open them now!" He's saying "Trump's executive orders leave out schools and if they're closed people can't go to work and Republicans aren't doing anything to help."
Edited by Lightysnake on Aug 8th 2020 at 4:31:25 AM
Vampire Mouse of Mars
Just watched it and HOLY SHIT FUCK MAN!!! Yeah FUCK The Hill for that intentionally misleading quote. He's basically tearing the Reps a new asshole about how they're unwilling to meet with the Dems on key pieces of relief legislation and how things like payroll taxes, student loan waivers or whatever it is, hiding off on evictions, and unemployment are GREATLY INSUFFICIENT at solving these issues and that we need a stronger more robust bill to actually help the people in need with these services instead of weak executive orders along with SIGNIFICANTLY increased testing and medical. The school thing IS there, but it's missing all of the above key context on top of his major point of opening up SAFELY and how schools were entirely left out of the equation by Reps.
What he said.
Edited by FinestArts on Aug 8th 2020 at 7:32:27 AM
Is the Hill that bad? Outside of their editorials, they seem a pretty standard, if center-right, news site.
Thing is, I'm not sure there is a way to open schools (outside of online learning only) in most US states. The infection rates are just to high. And while his words aren't as extreme as Trump's, he's still coming at it from the wrong direction.
Edited by Rationalinsanity on Aug 8th 2020 at 8:55:32 AM
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I dislike Schumer, like, a lot a lot, but he did say he wanted to do it safely or not at all.
Like, I don't think you can open them safely, but he doesn't seem to be arguing that they should stay open because economy.
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It's a gossipy rag that loves chaos and disinformation.
Yeah, honestly, Schumer seemed to be...'quoting' in a sense. Like "they say if you don't open schools, you hurt the economy, people can't go to work but they're not working with us and executive orders don't fix this."
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I'd add that part of the issue is the after-school programs and food handouts to underprivileged kids that many schools do. If they're closed, then a lot of those programs can't happen or get severely hampered. It's one of those damned if you do damned if you don't type of things from the looks of it or at least to my general understanding.
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To anyone wondering what Republicans would do with Trump's overreach, here's a Press Release from Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), praising Trump for eroding power from them and blaming the Democrats for it.
Republicans are clearly done with Democracy and the Constitution; all they want now is a Strong Man Dictator to stomp on Minorities and the Poor.
TIL that The Hill is hot garbage (is there a center-right American news site that isn't hot garbage? WSJ, and that's a big maybe?).
Retracting my previous statements, Minority Leader Schumer clearly isn't the COV-idiot I jumped to label him as. My bad.
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I didn't know you were a liberal, McConnell, tax cuts are all you ever care about. 
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I love how we're ready to eviscerate Schumer over a nothingburger while Bernie is still trying to singlehandedly destroy the stock market in one bill.
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I mean, it's not a terrible thing so...
On the other hand, less people are likely to be dead and unable to vote.
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