North Korea

Yes, that does kind of acknowledge North Korea as a legitimate government.

Edit:

And no, it's because they're automatically citizens of South Korea according to their constitution and are likely to be tortured.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/11/12/south-korea-deports-two-north-likely-abuse#

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 13th 2019 at 9:14:19 AM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-envoy-russia/north-korea-says-no-more-talks-with-u-s-just-so-trump-can-brag-idUSKBN1XS0HN?il=0&utm_source=reddit.com

North Korea won't talk with Trump anymore because he keeps calling to brag and has nothing substantive to say.

TFW Kim Jong-un is telling you your ego is overinflated...

So, Kim hung-on on Trump because of Trump being Trump.

THE BEST AT DIPLOMACY BELIEVE ME!

To be fair, when you hear North Korea say something like this, you should take it less as Even Evil Has Standards and more as hypocrisy.

In this specific case, the conclusion shouldn't be "even North Korea finds Trump too egotistical", but "Kim can give it, but he sure can't take it".

North Korea's leadership is essentially staffed by those jerks. You know the ones. The people constantly spout mean and offensive things, insist that other people are too sensitive, but then show their true colors by being incredibly thin-skinned whenever they hear anything resembling a joke at their expense. Actually, most people who complain about others being too sensitive are like this.

North Korea's UN ambassador says denuclearization is off the table in talks with US.

Well, expect World War III to come sooner than later. It looks like North Korea wants to provoke Donald Trump into declaring war on them and drag China into declaring war on United States.

Also, I kinda knew these "talks" are nothing but a failure just to boost Trump's ego in United States.

Edited by DarkPaladinX on Dec 7th 2019 at 12:08:11 PM

I wonder how much of their arsenal is left after the disaster with the mountain collapsing.

There's no chance of WW3.

Dude I really don't wanna be rude but you've just consistently been doing nothing but doomsaying and freaking out in all of the politics threads you post in. It's not good for the thread and it's not good for you.

It's not constructive in the slightest and OTCs are not the place for you to vent your anxieties. Worrying like this is terrible for your health and you should get some help.

Edited by LeGarcon on Dec 7th 2019 at 3:30:27 PM

Okay, no. At worst it would be a satellite or another long-range missile test, and there's still no telling whether or not that's what they'd do. For all we know they could just do another submarine or short-range missile test while nominally being pissy.

No doomsaying please.

I can't even begin to answer that question for you because bluntly you don't care about the reality of geopolitics or the organization of either government and you're just going to latch onto the next piece of news and then freak out about it again.

Posting news in an anxious fit and them doomsaying only be talked down and then ignoring those lessons and repeating the process again and again is not constructive conversation and it's bordering on emotional self harm for you.

I've got no interest in feeding your unhealthy coping mechanisms.

Please get some help.

Edited by LeGarcon on Dec 7th 2019 at 3:35:51 PM

Literally every part of this statement is wrong.

Just for clarity, North Korea has zero meaningful ability to strike at the mainland US, and are fully aware that even if they could doing so would essentially mean signing their own death sentence.

Also, worrying about WW3 happening is like worrying about being struck by a meteor. Sure, it could happen, but I highly doubt it.

Edited by archonspeaks on Dec 7th 2019 at 12:40:50 PM

For lurkers who might be getting freaked out by the scaremongering I’ll give a brief explanation as to why WW3 isn’t going to break out any time soon.

• Neither the North Korean or Chinese want to die.
• Despite being a pretty deluded regime the North Korea’s are aware that they’d die if they started a proper war against the US (even if they did somehow magically wipe the US out with a single strike).
• The North Korean nuclear arsenal is nowhere near capable of wiping out the US. Some of their very best armaments might be able to hit the US west coast, but that’s it, realistically they could do significant damage to either South Korea or Japan, but even then they don’t have the power to wipe out either country, even though said countries are both smaller in size and closer physically to North Korea.
• The countries can be enemies and not at war, they can even be engaged in repeated state-ordered acts of violence against each other and not go to war, unofficial wars where people die but nobody escalates to an actual declared war are all the rage at the moment.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 7th 2019 at 8:59:23 PM

The big reason why North Korea can't start WWIII is that they have virtually no meaningful allies. China is not as attached to North Korea as the US is to South Korea. It's highly unlikely they'd directly go to war against the US for North Korea's sake. For that matter, a lot of China's money comes from trade with the US.

In all likelihood, if North Korea got too aggressive, Beijing might intervene and do some regime change.

It is now a day after Christmas, and NK has not at all followed up on their "Christmas gift" threat. So, what have we learned, kiddies?

"Never make promises you can't keep."

I was thinking it'd be doing nuclear tests not actually announcing they're going to attack the USA like some sort of supervillain.

And that's assuming it was sarcasm, versus giving Trump a gold statue of himself.

I’ve seen some speculation that NK’s ability to conduct further nuclear tests might currently be somewhat limited due to a bottleneck in the production of weapons-grade materials and the lack of appropriate testing sites. A missile test seems more probable.

From public maps it seems like American ISR assets have been prowling the coast all day. If something was going to happen we’d probably know by now.

It’s also worth pointing out that missile tests usually aren’t telegraphed for this exact reason. If you know when it’s gonna happen you can watch and gather intelligence, and the US is very good at that. The Cobra Ball aircraft currently flying in the area carry incredibly sensor systems specialized towards tracking and analyzing ballistic missiles, but they’re usually limited by a lack of forewarning as to when a missile will launch. Those sensors can read the fine print on a warning label hundreds of miles out, so a launch with it hanging out in the area is probably not something the North Koreans want to risk.

Edited by archonspeaks on Dec 25th 2019 at 10:34:12 AM

News out of Pyongyang suggests that KJU is willing to meet Trump again if he thinks/or someone like him will win the elections in the Republican camp.

KJU announced in a session in Pyongyang that a moratorium on further ballistic missile testing is to be lifted due to Trump refusing to remove the rest of the sanctions and USFK participation in military exercises.

Haven't they already been testing ballistic missiles? They've been short range tests, but still.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50962768

BBC has the article on what I'm talking about.

A familiar guy from Vice is back in Pyongyang. XD

Seoul announced that Pyongyang had fired an unidentified projectile.

Analysts think that it could be a missile.