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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7051: Jun 23rd 2019 at 5:10:29 AM

KCNA reports that KJU got an "Excellent letter" from Donald Trump. He nor the station elaborated what it had (the contents).

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7052: Jun 27th 2019 at 1:14:33 AM

Reports that an Australian was detained, who’s been studying at Kim Il Sung University for a master’s IIRC.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#7053: Jun 27th 2019 at 1:58:29 AM

studying at Kim Il Sung University for a master’s IIRC.

...why?

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#7054: Jun 27th 2019 at 4:19:11 AM

Australia media is identifying him primarily as a tour guide operator. They do mention that he was studying, specifically literature.

Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#7055: Jun 27th 2019 at 5:31:47 PM

Still, it's insanely risky for any Westerner to even visit North Korea, due to the very real possibility of having false charges conjured up against you as diplomatic retaliation, let alone study there full time.

Life is unfair...
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7056: Jun 28th 2019 at 6:12:39 PM

Trump tweeted that he’s inviting KJU to meet at the DMZ.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7057: Jun 30th 2019 at 4:35:20 AM

Trump took a page from President Moon and entered the DMZ.

Moon is also there to join aside from KJU.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#7058: Jun 30th 2019 at 5:25:17 AM

Well.

I guess Time magazine was right in calling Moon "The Negotiator."[lol]

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#7059: Jun 30th 2019 at 10:48:37 PM

As a general note, it looks like Cheollima Civil Defense/Free Joseon is running a number station from their website.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7060: Jul 1st 2019 at 5:55:34 PM

All the military analysts seem to agree that Trump visiting the DMZ is just lip service and not a firm commitment from Pyongyang to disarm of its WM Ds.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#7061: Jul 1st 2019 at 9:10:41 PM

They won't disarm, so that's a waste of time anyway.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7062: Jul 3rd 2019 at 9:47:23 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-48864474

The Australian man detained by Pyongyang was officially released.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7063: Jul 4th 2019 at 5:46:33 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48864807

A short article talking about Swedish intervention for countries that don't have an "official" presence there aside from the British, Pakistanis, etc.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48866940

A BBC article on how foreigners, especially those from the West, are able to live/work in Pyongyang.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#7064: Jul 5th 2019 at 10:25:42 AM

I feel like will said Trump visiting would be a step forward and is all because of him, isnt?.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7065: Jul 7th 2019 at 5:10:22 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48893523

Alek Sigley was detained for supposedly commiting espionage by using his position in KLS university to pass information to several entities, including NK News.

Which is BS 'cause NK News has gotten information from Pyongyang before.

One thing is for sure, his master's career/tour guide job is over.

Edited by Ominae on Jul 7th 2019 at 6:05:51 AM

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7066: Jul 8th 2019 at 7:03:05 PM

Something happened in Seoul as someone defected to the North. Which hasn't been done in a while IMO...

BBC article.

The son of high-profile South Korean defectors is reported to have moved to North Korea, in a rare case of someone seeking to settle in the dictatorship.

Choe In-guk is the son of a South Korean ex-foreign minister who defected to the North with his wife in 1986.

According to North Korean state media he will live in the North and work on reunification issues.

Defections this way are very rare. It is more common for people from the North to try to escape to the South.

The two countries are technically still at war and South Koreans need permission to visit the North.

South Korea's Unification Ministry confirmed that Mr Choe did not request such permission for his trip.

"It's not yet clear how exactly his defection came about," Oliver Hotham of specialist news site NK News, based in Seoul, told the BBC.

"But it would be fairly simple for a South Korean to get to the North if they had the regime's blessing by travelling through China."

However if Mr Choe has violated South Korean law by not seeking permission from his government, he could potentially be arrested if he ever returned to the South, experts say.

Mr Choe is a 73-year-old South Korean citizen, but little is known about his personal life or political views. He has a wife and daughter in the South.

His parents, however, were the most high-profile South Koreans to defect to the North since the end of the Korean War.

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Mr Choe's arrival in Pyongyang was reported by the North's state media, which showed him being warmly received by North Korean officials.

He is cited on the North Korean propaganda website Uriminzokkiri as saying: "To live in and follow a country for which I feel thankful is a path to protect the will left by my parents.

"So I've decided to permanently live in North Korea, albeit belatedly."

South Korean media outlets report that Mr Choe did not have an easy life in the South and had to fight the stigma of being the "son of traitor".

He reportedly changed jobs several times and lived on money his mother sent from North Korea before she died in 2016.

Mr Choe frequently travelled to the North in recent years and attended his mother's funeral there.

His father Choe Tok-sin served as foreign minister of South Korea during the 1960s.

In the 1970s he emigrated to the US where he became a stern critic of the South Korea government under military leader Park Chung-hee. Media captionFour defectors talk about what life is like in North Korea

A decade later, in 1986, he made headlines by defecting to the North along with his wife, Ryu Mi-yong. They left their five adult children behind in the South.

Both became part of the political elite in their new home country. Choe Tok-sin died in 1989 and Ryu Mi-yong assumed his role as leader of a religious sect. She also took on other positions.

The family has longstanding ties to the North Korean leadership. Choe In-guk's paternal grandfather is known to have been a mentor to Kim Il-sung, the founder of North Korea, during the fight against Japanese rule.

Defectors on the Korean peninsula are usually citizens of the North who try to escape from the closed-off dictatorship to the democratic and wealthier South. Such defections are very dangerous.

Seoul says more than 30,000 North Koreans have illegally crossed the border since the end of the Korean War in 1953.

According to South Korean statistics the numbers have dropped somewhat in recent years. There were 1,127 defections in 2017 compared to 2,706 in 2011.

In some cases soldiers have crossed the border on foot, often under a hail of bullets.

Most flee via China, which has the longest border with North Korea. It is easier to flee over this border than the heavily-protected Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) between the two Koreas.

China regards defectors as illegal migrants rather than refugees and often forcibly repatriates them.

Defections from the South to the North are very rare and often involve so-called "double defectors" - people who first fled North Korea for the South but eventually return to the North.

They were more common before the devastating famine believed to have killed hundreds of thousands of people in North Korea in the mid-1990s.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#7067: Jul 8th 2019 at 7:11:36 PM

Somehow I don't think the Republic of Korea has been hurt too badly by this guy leaving them.

They're clearly better off without him.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7068: Jul 8th 2019 at 7:16:33 PM

Guy is 74 to, he took an awfully long time to make such a call...

Wonder if he was threatened, or offered incentives?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#7069: Jul 8th 2019 at 7:20:57 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if he's just doing it to dodge taxes or something.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7070: Jul 8th 2019 at 7:33:56 PM

Some articles I've seen mentioned that he's been too stigmatized by his parents being pro-DPRK defectors after they left America.

This included being forced to change jobs a lot that he's being mentally battered by all the embarrassment he endured.

Edited by Ominae on Jul 8th 2019 at 7:43:08 AM

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#7071: Jul 9th 2019 at 12:06:41 AM

I don't want to be too cynical (and I am nonetheless), but from a pragmatic point of view, it's a good plan. North Korea is desperate enough for good publicity to welcome lavishly those who would defect to their side, giving them recognition, money and a quiet place in society. Tempting, I suppose, for an old man who would want to live his last days in peace. Everybody agrees that if you're not a North Korean civilian, it can be a great country to live in, like a shittier feudal state.

Two of our French brownshirts, Soral & Dieudonné, were notably charmed by how everything was orderly. A model society, if you hear them.

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#7072: Jul 10th 2019 at 6:26:36 PM

Choe's giving a press statement on his plans to go to Pyongyang via SCMP:

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#7073: Jul 12th 2019 at 8:49:06 AM

N. Korea changes constitution to make Kim Jong-un official head of state

SEOUL, July 11 (Yonhap) — North Korea has revised its constitution to stipulate that leader Kim Jong-un is the official head of state, according to a state media outlet.

The new constitution, revised in April's Supreme People's Assembly (SPA) session, states that the chairman of the State Affairs Commission (SAC), the communist state's highest seat of power, serves as its supreme leader that "represents the country," according to Naenara, a North Korean propaganda website.

Kim rules the North as chairman of the State Affairs Commission.

The website unveiled the full text of the new constitution.

The previous constitution only stated that the chairman of the SAC served as supreme leader. Under the previous version, it was the president of the Presidium of the SPA who represents the country as nominal head of state.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#7074: Jul 12th 2019 at 8:54:11 AM

Isn't Kim Il-Sung still the Eternal President?

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#7075: Jul 12th 2019 at 9:10:56 AM

Yes, but not the president of the Presidium i.e. head of state.

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