Warhammer 40,000

Yeah, as said the Drukhari aren't matching Slaanesh, he is copying them.

If I remember correctly, the last time actual Chaos worshiping Aeldari/Eldar turned up was in an old William King book. I can't remember which one but I do remember it is the only book I have read of his that I didn't like much.

honestly Slaneesh and the Eldar's relationship is kinda weird when you consider Chaos in general

while hindsight isn't really in their book, but they don't truly want everything dead, cause that'd kill them too. just a general WH 40 K esque stasis is great for them

Good distinction! I just meant that it's ironic that, despite being enemies of Slaanesh, they would be very similar in their MO if they were worshipers.

I have my fingers crossed so hard for Emperor's Children to become an army in their own right...

The Drukhari aren't really enemies of Slaanesh since they don't really do anything to resist Chaos.

They bribe Slaanesh to stay away by offering the souls of others in their place.

Of all the Aeldar, it's really just the Craftworlds and Ynnari who actively oppose Chaos.

Edited by M84 on Apr 3rd 2024 at 8:10:44 PM

Also the Harlequins. There's Masque that prioritizes opposing the Necrons instead, but the others think that they're a bit weird for it.

Still though, if an Aeldar offerd their soul to a different Chaos god, what the hell is Slaanesh even gonna do about it?

Today's Heresy Thursday is ‘Little’ Horus Aximand◊. This is probably one of the few Astartes models where I prefer the helmetless head.

I disagree, I like the armor and helmet design.

That is one of the most obviously Chaos-y models for HH, especially the helmet, It looks like a Chaos Space Marine helmet without horns, while the filigree looks very close to the later Black Legion. His bare head also looks a lot like some of the later Chaos characters, like Huron Blackheart.

Edited by Mara999 on Apr 4th 2024 at 9:50:43 PM

Huron is my favourite model from that generation of Chaos Marine characters so that's probably why I like it. I'm also not a great fan of helmets with topknots.

I imagine Khorne might be able to take some Eldar but it'd be awkward if they called him Khaine.

The deeply personal connection Slaanesh has to the Aeldar — Slaanesh is literally their old sins manifest coming back to haunt them — probably means that it's automatic. The moment an Aeldar falters in some way, their soul automatically goes to Slaanesh.

This is the existential dread that defines all Aeldar. If they don't resist or placate or hide from Slaanesh all the time, they're instantly Slaanesh's toy.

It's actually much worse for the Drukhari, since their refusal to give up the hedonism that created Slaanesh means their souls are constantly being drawn towards the Chaos God. That's what the Thirst is. They can stave it off by offering others' souls to Slaanesh, and hiding in the Webway helps a lot too. But the Thirst only gets stronger over time.

Slaanesh is unique among the Chaos Gods in that its origin can be traced to a single race. The other Chaos Gods as far as we know are not. Their origins can't be traced to any one race's mistakes.

Edited by M84 on Apr 6th 2024 at 3:12:16 AM

None of the Chaos Gods formed during the War in Heaven right?

We don't know for certain. All we know is that the War of Heaven was what created the Warp itself. Or rather, it's what changed the peaceful Realm of Souls into the Warp.

Due to the nature of the Chaos Gods, it should be near to impossible to pinpoint an actual origin point for any of them. That Slaanesh was simply born in an observable event let's us do just that, even though through their very nature they've always existed.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Apr 5th 2024 at 4:39:53 AM

Yeah, trying to put firm dates on anything in the constantly shifting magic hell nightmare that exists outside all orderly structures of reality is an uphill battle as drawn by MC Escher.

One of the tabletop-Youtubers I'm following is Boylei Hobby Time. So far he's seldom ventured into GW properties, but in this latest episode he makes a badass cowboy-themed Space Marine force.

That rings with the Saturday Morning spirit that 40K should never fully shed.

Well, there is azariah kyras who tell the eldar "rejoice, for the soul of craftworld belong to khrone, rather than slaanesh" so you can sacrifice eldar to the other chaos gods.

And even the drukhari dont like chaos and there is also a reason why they arent so slaaneshi and it have to do in part with Vect, he establish this utterlu brutal meoricracy of the ruthless in part so drukhari atacking each other dosnet sit in their laurels and get distracted enought to not tople him.

No, the reason the Drukhari also fear Chaos and Slaanesh is because they are still Aeldar. Their souls are still forfeit if they don't placate Slaanesh somehow. Slaanesh would eat them just as it would any other Aeldar.

Agreed. Both 40K and WHFB need to have some intentionally ridiculous silliness, in order to function with all the grimdark. Whenever Warhammer goes so far with the serious edginess that it becomes entirely humourless, it loses a lot of its appeal for me and becomes kinda boring.

Characters.Warhammer 40000 Chaos Marines is getting the over-long page warning. Thoughts on splitting it? I was thinking of moving the named characters to a separate page.

How about splitting the nine Traitor Legions into a separate page from later Chaos Space Marines and other Heretics?

^Issue is that there isn't really all that much material on non-Traitor Legion Chaos Marines — currently we have two folders for specific renegade warbands, one for the Fallen Angels, and one for general entries without enough examples for a folder. It's easily the smallest single part of the page.

EDIT: Unless you also moved over the individual characters folder down at the bottom. That'd even things out a little...

Edited by Theriocephalus on Apr 8th 2024 at 4:39:49 AM

It didn't help much, but I struck the commented-out entry for Erebus as his entry at Characters.Horus Heresy Traitor Legions is sufficient. I wonder how big a page that combined the entries for the Traitor Primarchs, Traitor Legions, and the characters from them would be. If it doesn't trip the warning, maybe those could be combined as a Traitor Legions page.

Edited by Willbyr on Apr 9th 2024 at 10:17:35 AM