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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33201: Feb 12th 2020 at 10:13:40 PM

Fabius does have balls to said the gods have nothing to give him while he does have to give to them.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#33202: Feb 13th 2020 at 12:15:59 AM

[up] Yes, but who did he cut them off?

TheCuriousFan Since: Jan, 2011
#33203: Feb 13th 2020 at 3:42:24 AM

Curiously enough, the more recent works with Fabius Bile paint him of all people as one of the less foolish. He's a skin wearing Mad Scientist of course, but he's also one of the only people who gets that the Emperor never wanted to be a god, thinks limiting augmentation to only males was foolish, and unlike everyone else who wants to make the universe fit a certain vision he's willing to accept that he probably won't be a part of it.
But in the end he's still on Slaanesh's strings despite his own protests, he will never have a "good enough" creation, he will endlessly pursue perfection.

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#33204: Feb 13th 2020 at 10:11:16 AM

And Slaanesh doesn't have to expend any favor, power, or effort. The perfect puppet.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33205: Feb 13th 2020 at 1:12:27 PM

It does? he is not like Ahirman who have the mark of chaos, I think fabius is not aling to any chaos gods.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#33206: Feb 13th 2020 at 1:15:14 PM

Do you know what you call a Chaos servant who insists they're merely using Chaos and they don't need it? A Chaos servant.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33207: Feb 13th 2020 at 1:17:36 PM

On one hand, he is not like horus who chuck on chaos, he more of a freelancer(or the equivalent).

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#33208: Feb 13th 2020 at 1:34:00 PM

Sure, but Chaos doesn't have a subscription model where you just pay for what you need and don't bother each other outside of that. It's a one way street. Fabius thinks he's his own master, so do Ahriman and Abaddon. They're all wrong.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33209: Feb 13th 2020 at 7:00:37 PM

Fabius and Ahzek still follow the Chaos Gods in their own way even if they don't want to admit it. The funny thing is that they follow the more positive traits of the Chaos Gods.

Fabius as mentioned above is in tune with Slaanesh' pursuit of perfection and improvement. Ahzek is motivated by hope, something that Tzeentch embodies.

Edited by M84 on Feb 13th 2020 at 11:06:20 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#33210: Feb 13th 2020 at 7:15:34 PM

Theres a reason Tzeentch is the most busted of the chaos gods.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33211: Feb 13th 2020 at 7:19:32 PM

I still think Khorne is the strongest of the four, because his domain includes war. And the galaxy has been at war for over ten thousand years.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#33212: Feb 13th 2020 at 7:20:16 PM

Tzeentch actively weakens himself to be on the other three's level.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33213: Feb 13th 2020 at 7:21:09 PM

Tzeentch plays the game not to win but for the sake of keeping the game going.

Disgusted, but not surprised
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33214: Feb 13th 2020 at 7:22:48 PM

Tzeetch is meta powerfull in that he pursuit the great game for the sake of it, meaning he know nobody else can win.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33215: Feb 13th 2020 at 7:27:15 PM

Tzeentch is the player who obsesses over strategies and counter-strategies.

Khorne just wants to see a battlefield full of figures.

Slaanesh obsesses over the paint jobs of the figures.

Nurgle is that player who thinks basic hygiene is a lower priority than their Warhammer 40k hobby.

Disgusted, but not surprised
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33216: Feb 13th 2020 at 8:03:42 PM

[up]If you ever read eye of terror, a lord of change and a bloodthirster actually do that: they pick each one a planet, create a super duper briged between those two and throw each other army in a lovecrafnian recreation of a tabletop game

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#33217: Feb 13th 2020 at 11:02:15 PM

What does this make The Emperor then?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33218: Feb 13th 2020 at 11:04:15 PM

He's the asshole player who thinks he's hot shit and looks down on everyone else.

Disgusted, but not surprised
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33219: Feb 14th 2020 at 1:36:14 AM

[up]So a meta-gamer then.

Anyway, today's Forge World pre-order: Horus Heresy Dark Angel Inner Circle Terminators. I like their wrist-mounted plasma weapons.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#33220: Feb 14th 2020 at 5:50:28 AM

Surely there must be a limit to the number of minimally-different Terminator variants Forge World can put out.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33221: Feb 14th 2020 at 9:43:53 AM

[up]Well they can do at least 18.

SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#33222: Feb 14th 2020 at 4:59:43 PM

@M84

Count me as a Slaaneshi by that criterion then.

"THIS SINGLE THICK COAT OFFENDS SLAANESH!"

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#33223: Feb 14th 2020 at 7:43:49 PM

Tzeentch plays every faction.

Khorne just plays the melee-heavy factions.

Slaanesh owns every faction because they had creative flights of fancy painting them, but only really plays a choice few because owning the factions were purely due to these short-lived flights of fancy.

Nurgle also plays pretty much every faction but it's hard to tell at first glance because they all just about look alike anyway after he's been through with them.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#33224: Feb 14th 2020 at 7:44:48 PM

The God-Emperor would most likely be a "Stop Having Fun" Guy, I'd argue.

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
CountDorku Since: Jan, 2001
#33225: Feb 14th 2020 at 9:43:11 PM

Given his political philosophy he's also That Guy who plays every WWII wargame ever but for some reason only collects German armies for them.


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