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Yes and that is told in the Horus Heresy series so should be troped on those pages.

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 21st 2018 at 8:08:53 PM

Speaking of the Horus Heresy, the Last Council gices us an idea of just how powerful Malcador the Sigilite was.

In a flashback to a previous Council before Horus turned traitor, Horus, the Khan and Alpharius are objecting to the un-personing of the Lost Primarchs. Horus in particular eggs Malcador on until the old man locks him in a psychic prison that threatens to asphyxiate him.

...Now I want to try and make the Sigilite Heresy idea I had work again.

The short story is in one of the older anthologies...Let the Galaxy Burn, iirc. My copy is in storage, but I will see if I can dig it out over the weekend.

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Dec 21st 2018 at 10:35:23 AM

Could we soft-split Erebus's entry on the page between tropes applying during the heresy and tropes applying in the 41st/42nd millennium?

Here

Well his Heresy tropes are covered by the Horus Heresy character entry, his non-heresy information is covered by the Word Bearers character entry (unless there is info on him elsewhere) and there is no information on his activates in Gathering Storm onwards. That is kind of my point, he is adequately covered already so we don't need to repeat the information on the Chaos Marine page, especially as he has nothing but a single line in the Codex.

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 21st 2018 at 2:56:22 PM

The awesome special edition Noise Marine, based on the original◊, is available for order today.

It's not on the US store.

New releases go on at 10 o'clock local time (in the UK at least)

Looking at this noise marine I all of a sudden get this pervasive thought that Dio's 'Don't Talk to Strangers' is tragic song of those who are lured and corrupted by chaos.

Dio is pretty much a villian sanguinius.

Like really and including like all villian being tsundere toward the heroes...just like blood angels got for all faction.

I have no idea what you just said.

Dio is pretty much a evil Sanguinius, handsome, dramatic and quite over the top, just like Primarch itself.

Better?.

Are we talking about the same Dio, because I meant the musician not the manga character. 'Don't talk to strangers' is his song.

Edited by Prany on Dec 22nd 2018 at 8:50:07 AM

Oh I see, hard to see that consider everyone talk about the latter, a Weird Al moment I guess.

So I've been thinking about the whole "Traitor Legion Primaris" thing. Anyone want to try and guess which Primaris chapters are actually from Traitor Legion stock?

There's the rather blatant Sons of the Phoenix for one thing. Ostensibly an Imperial Fist successor chapter, but considering their bird imagery and the fact that Fulgrim was once called the Palatine Phoenix...

I'm still wondering if we'll get to see Primaris War Hounds sans Nails and unblighted Primaris Dusk Raiders appear. It's a pretty easy source of drama after all — have them face their corrupted counterparts.

Edited by M84 on Dec 23rd 2018 at 11:04:53 PM

One Headcanon I have is that Cawl is in fact responsable of the cursed funding in a radical atempt to purge the flaw of the geneseed.

I mean, it make sense isnt?.

There's also the Umbral Knights, who are probably officially a successor chapter to one of the Loyalist Legions. But given their name (Umbra means shadow) and their willingness to stay in the Dark Imperium, I wouldn't be surprised if they are actually descended from the Night Lords.

Edit:

Another thing about the Sons of the Phoenix that make them suspect is their color scheme: their armor is mostly white which supposedly shows how pure they are,but it's also got some violet. The same color as the Emperor's Children armor.

To say nothing of the purity seals they wear which reeks of being an effort to look less suspicious.

Edited by M84 on Dec 24th 2018 at 1:29:22 AM

Colour schemes don't mean much. The Hawk Lords have been sporting colours very similar to the pre-Heresy Emperor's Children since 2nd Edition.

I have said it before, I have never really seen why some people are so obsessed with loyalist traitors. I am predominately an Imperium and Xenos fan however.

For some reason: the idea of "good guy with bad guy conexion" is always a good way to create drama(Luke and Darth vader for example), the logistic of a chararter decending from traitor and how the imperium cover it up, and last is how traitor would have fare by being loyalist.

I mean im on the opinion the raven guard and Iron hand should have being traitors, maybe GW would have give them more lore because of it, the Blood raven being close TS kinda make things better.

If Primaris descended from the Traitor Legion geneseed faced their Chaos counterparts it'd be enlightening for both of them. The Primaris would face the monsters they could potentially become while the Chaos Marines face people who embody what they used to be long ago. Maybe it ends with them hating each other even more and becoming obsessed with destroying each other. Maybe it ends with the Primaris identifying too much with their predecessors and joining Chaos. Maybe it ends with the Chaos Marines realizing how hard they had fallen.

Also and just for saying: Happy sanguinala to everyone, let remenber sanguinius sacrifice and that the emperor did nothing wrong whatsover!

Merry Christmas.

Anyone get any 40K stuff for Christmas this year? I got some Militarum Tempestus Scions from my parents. Of the options on my list these are probably the least useful tactically but the models I liked the most.

I got myself Blackstone Fortress and a Noise Marine.

Cool. I would have loved to have gotten Blackstone.

Also as, as a Christmas present, Games Workshop have put a load of Vostroyan Firstborn on Made-to-Order today.

Merry Slaaneshmas, servants of the False Emperor. Remember, your corpse-god is dead, your Space Marines will not protect you, and Magnus the Red did nothing wrong.