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Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#28651: Dec 6th 2018 at 9:42:09 PM

NP NanaseCraft22

Just so you know.

NP NanaseCraft23

Indulgence break.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#28652: Dec 6th 2018 at 9:42:27 PM

New NP

Now, I know the common assumption is that that Shive is doing something sexual, but I don't see it. I mean, those poses are realistic, and the joke is clearly about the apples. Not EVERYTHING is sexual, god.

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Edit: ninjad.

Edited by MrAHR on Dec 6th 2018 at 12:42:48 PM

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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#28654: Dec 7th 2018 at 2:28:10 PM

Boy, I sure hope something actually happens sometime soon in this comic.

Also Shive, how the hell are you making Grace of all people boring? She's always been at least mildly amusing!

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#28655: Dec 7th 2018 at 4:22:42 PM

Clearly, we need Ashley. She makes every comic better, after all.

Being serious though, I just wanna see more of Sam and Sarah. It’s so frustrating that we waited this long to see their date, and we hardly got anything. They have a really great dynamic, but Shive doesn’t care to explore it.

DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#28656: Dec 7th 2018 at 9:47:42 PM

[up][up] Geez, yeah. I can't believe this arc so far is making me regret wanting to see more Grace.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#28658: Dec 9th 2018 at 9:50:11 PM

Comic Tsos13

I had to read the commentary to get the joke.

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Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#28659: Dec 9th 2018 at 11:52:54 PM

I had to read the commentary, even after reading your post, to find out where the joke was.

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TwinBird Dunkies addict from Eastern Mass Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#28660: Dec 10th 2018 at 12:02:53 AM

Yeah, that confused the hell out of me until I saw the commentary. I wonder if I would have gotten it if he hadn't kept the word "counter" in.

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TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#28661: Dec 10th 2018 at 1:58:54 AM

I... whuh... did we skip a comic or three? Wasn't Sarah talking to Justin last time we saw her? Wasn't Grace debating something completely pointless? How did we get from point A to point C?

I am so confused...

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#28662: Dec 10th 2018 at 2:28:58 AM

[up]Last page has a "latter during the tournament" box in the first panel. It means some time have passed since Sarah was talking to Justin. Yes, Shive should have made it more obvious, probably with a establishing shot of the tournament last page or something.

Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#28663: Dec 10th 2018 at 2:29:40 AM

Minor time skip, the night's tourney has started.

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TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#28664: Dec 10th 2018 at 2:36:06 AM

Oh, hey, it really does. Missed it completely. Look at that.

That establishing shot woulda been good, yeah.

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Dec 10th 2018 at 8:36:29 AM

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#28665: Dec 10th 2018 at 11:02:29 AM

Oh wow yeah I missed that exposition too.

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DatLonerGirl Get heckin crabbed from a top secret place Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#28666: Dec 10th 2018 at 12:38:08 PM

I was also confused.

Writer, or something. And... a button? 🖲️
Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#28667: Dec 10th 2018 at 11:43:45 PM

NP NanaseCraft24

Determination.

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#28668: Dec 11th 2018 at 3:12:54 AM

Nope, ya, this is definitely a fetish.

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#28669: Dec 11th 2018 at 3:19:03 AM

I would defend the comic and say that it isn't, but Shive's commentary sounds so much like he's searching for excuses to show that transformation up close that it's making it hard to defend him.

I'll simply say that since it clearly is kinda fetishy, at least from Shive's perspective, it's very poorly done fetishy art, since it isn't really portrayed in a very sexy or titillating (gods, I hate that word, but I can't for the life of me remember the one I wanted right now) manner. Hell, Elliot posing as a teacher in the last two comics was better fetishy art than that.

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Dec 11th 2018 at 9:19:37 AM

DatLonerGirl Get heckin crabbed from a top secret place Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#28670: Dec 11th 2018 at 3:57:50 AM

History says yes. He's straight up said he has a fetish for it, and has drawn it multiple times for the purpose.

Writer, or something. And... a button? 🖲️
God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#28671: Dec 11th 2018 at 2:02:36 PM

[up][up]Shive is very prudishly fetishistic.

stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#28672: Dec 11th 2018 at 3:59:43 PM

This is the same content posted years ago. Why are you guys unhappy about it now?

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DatLonerGirl Get heckin crabbed from a top secret place Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#28673: Dec 11th 2018 at 4:32:31 PM

I never said I was. Just pointing out the difference between the obviousness of this and the more disputed nature of the other strip.

Edited by DatLonerGirl on Dec 11th 2018 at 6:34:08 AM

Writer, or something. And... a button? 🖲️
MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#28674: Dec 11th 2018 at 4:37:36 PM

In my defense, I was unhappy about it back then too. tongue

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TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#28675: Dec 11th 2018 at 4:52:11 PM

I don't really care either way. I just enjoy analyzing the art, and seeing how surprisingly prudish Shive can be while making the most openly fetishistic webcomic I've seen in a while. I find that really amazing.

Also, I remember I joined this discussion on the fetishy stuff because I was defending that the inflation scene a few comics back was not an example of an inflation fetish, which, again, falls into "analyzing the art" as I mentioned above.


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