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* ''Fanfic/ExitumEternal'': Saren notes that the Exitium is either a hegemony of religious zealots bound together by a lie that they've been fighting demons for 50,000 years...or a government with incredible resources and a massive population that has been fighting literal demons from Hell for 50,000 years and ''still hasn't won''.

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* ''Fanfic/ExitumEternal'': ''Fanfic/ExitiumEternal'': Saren notes that the Exitium is either a hegemony of religious zealots bound together by a lie that they've been fighting demons for 50,000 years...or a government with incredible resources and a massive population that has been fighting literal demons from Hell for 50,000 years and ''still hasn't won''.
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* ''Fanfic/ExitumEternal'': Saren notes that the Exitium is either a hegemony of religious zealots bound together by a lie that they've been fighting demons for 50,000 years... or a government with incredible resources and a massive population that has been fighting literal demons from Hell for 50,000 years and ''still hasn't won''.

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* ''Fanfic/ExitumEternal'': Saren notes that the Exitium is either a hegemony of religious zealots bound together by a lie that they've been fighting demons for 50,000 years... or a government with incredible resources and a massive population that has been fighting literal demons from Hell for 50,000 years and ''still hasn't won''.



* In ''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/harry-potter-and-the-fairy-tome.632155/page-10#post-46928602 Harry Potter and the Fairy Tome]]'', things became tough for [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dolores Umbridge]] when [[VideoGame/{{Neptunia}} IF]] did some digging and published an expose on the witch's true past. When Umbridge confronted Dumbledore about this, the aged wizard said he would have the Ministry conduct a full investigation. This meant that either Umbridge admitted that the expose was true, getting removed from her post in disgrace for falsifying her record[[note]]she pretended to be a pureblood from Slytherin, when she was actually a half-blood from Hufflepuff[[/note]], or all of her dirty laundry would be revealed, guaranteeing her a trip to [[TheAlcatraz Azkaban]]. She chose disgrace.

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* In ''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/harry-potter-and-the-fairy-tome.632155/page-10#post-46928602 Harry Potter and the Fairy Tome]]'', things became tough for [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dolores Umbridge]] when [[VideoGame/{{Neptunia}} IF]] did some digging and published an expose on the witch's true past. When Umbridge confronted Dumbledore about this, the aged wizard said he would have the Ministry conduct a full investigation. This meant that either Umbridge admitted that the expose was true, getting removed from her post in disgrace for falsifying her record[[note]]she pretended to be a pureblood from Slytherin, Slytherin when she was actually a half-blood from Hufflepuff[[/note]], or all of her dirty laundry would be revealed, guaranteeing her a trip to [[TheAlcatraz Azkaban]]. She chose disgrace.



** Lorgar has been forced into a difficult choice due to the [[spoiler:death of Slaanesh]] and the rise of Malal as a potential Chaos God. If Lorgar launches a Black Crusade now to reverse the situation and seal Malal, he will do so against both the Imperium ''and'' the Throne of Oblivion and the price the Gods will demand of him is likely to be ruinous. At the same time if he doesn't act, Malal will become a Chaos God which stands opposed to the rest of the pantheon. Not only will this undermine Chaos Undivided, the central dogma of the Word Bearer religion, it will also prevent ''any future Black Crusade'' as they must represent a combined force of all Chaos.
** Dark Apostle Oriax is locked in a room with a [[spoiler:Skaven]] bomb and the only way to stop it detonating is by perfectly reciting every word in a holo recording. Said recording the sermon of a pious Imperial priest. No matter how insincere Oriax may speak the words, his daemonic masters ''will'' punish him for saying them, meaning he'll either die to the bomb or suffer the torture of the Warp.

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** Lorgar has been forced into a difficult choice due to the [[spoiler:death of Slaanesh]] and the rise of Malal as a potential Chaos God. If Lorgar launches a Black Crusade now to reverse the situation and seal Malal, he will do so against both the Imperium ''and'' the Throne of Oblivion and the price the Gods will demand of him is likely to be ruinous. At the same time time, if he doesn't act, Malal will become a Chaos God which stands opposed to the rest of the pantheon. Not only will this undermine Chaos Undivided, the central dogma of the Word Bearer religion, it will also prevent ''any future Black Crusade'' as they must represent a combined force of all Chaos.
** Dark Apostle Oriax is locked in a room with a [[spoiler:Skaven]] bomb and the only way to stop it from detonating is by perfectly reciting every word in a holo recording. Said recording the sermon of a pious Imperial priest. No matter how insincere Oriax may speak the words, his daemonic masters ''will'' punish him for saying them, meaning he'll either die to the bomb or suffer the torture of the Warp.



* In ''Fanfic/TheHurricane'', Laurel and Shado [[spoiler:face this when they learn that Ra's plans to work with the Joker to infect most of the other rogues with "Joker Gas" that will turn them into duplicates of the Clown Prince of Crime so that Batman will be forced to turn to the League of Assassins for help. Obviously neither of them agree with this plan, but they have no way of contacting the police or Batman without getting arrested themselves, and may not even be believed anyway]]. After [[spoiler:the Joker uses the gas on the League as well as the villains, with Shado basically sacrificing herself to get Laurel to safety, Laurel is forced to take a chance and contact the Bat-Family for help anyway]].

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* In ''Fanfic/TheHurricane'', Laurel and Shado [[spoiler:face this when they learn that Ra's plans to work with the Joker to infect most of the other rogues with "Joker Gas" that will turn them into duplicates of the Clown Prince of Crime so that Batman will be forced to turn to the League of Assassins for help. Obviously Obviously, neither of them agree agrees with this plan, but they have no way of contacting the police or Batman without getting arrested themselves, and may not even be believed anyway]]. After [[spoiler:the Joker uses the gas on the League as well as the villains, with Shado basically sacrificing herself to get Laurel to safety, Laurel is forced to take a chance and contact the Bat-Family for help anyway]].



** Send Harry to St. Mungo's for professional help that could help him overcome his traumas, likely the best option... but Harry would be out of Dumbldore's protection, and there's no way that it could be kept a private matter and the public fallout would be devastating.
*** Ultimately, it's [=McGonagall=] who gives a fifth option that he takes: he resigns as Headmaster to focus on his other duties, assign her as Headmistress and places Harry in her custody, as she's managed to establish a rapport with him, which in the long run, is the best choice.

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** Send Harry to St. Mungo's for professional help that could help him overcome his traumas, likely the best option... but Harry would be out of Dumbldore's protection, and there's no way that it could be kept a private matter and the public fallout would be devastating.
*** Ultimately, it's [=McGonagall=] who gives a fifth option that he takes: he resigns as Headmaster to focus on his other duties, assign assigns her as Headmistress Headmistress, and places Harry in her custody, as she's managed to establish a rapport with him, which in the long run, is the best choice.



* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/36162718/ The Devil and His Urchin]]'', Chloe and Dan initially feel like they're faced with this when Trixie manifests wings inherited from her biological father Lucifer (Lucifer and Chloe had a one-night-stand while Chloe and Dan's relationship was in a rough place). Obviously both initially panic when faced with evidence that Trixie is the daughter of the devil and what that might mean regarding his interest in her, but they also recognise that trying to sneak away isn't practical when their child has wings, and they are concerned that trying to ask for help will either lead to people dismissing them as insane or they will be faced with scientists trying to examine/dissect Trixie or priests trying to exorcise her. [[spoiler:Chloe ultimately chooses to ask Lucifer for his help, reasoning that he's clearly willing to tolerate them at least considering that Chloe can think of other people who would have punched Dan by now considering how he and Lucifer have interacted so far.]]

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* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/36162718/ The Devil and His Urchin]]'', Chloe and Dan initially feel like they're faced with this when Trixie manifests wings inherited from her biological father Lucifer (Lucifer and Chloe had a one-night-stand while Chloe and Dan's relationship was in a rough place). Obviously Obviously, both initially panic when faced with evidence that Trixie is the daughter of the devil and what that might mean regarding his interest in her, but they also recognise that trying to sneak away isn't practical when their child has wings, and they are concerned that trying to ask for help will either lead to people dismissing them as insane or they will be faced with scientists trying to examine/dissect Trixie or priests trying to exorcise her. [[spoiler:Chloe ultimately chooses to ask Lucifer for his help, reasoning that he's clearly willing to tolerate them at least considering that Chloe can think of other people who would have punched Dan by now considering how he and Lucifer have interacted so far.]]



* ''Fanfic/{{BURN THE WITCH|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Lila finds herself in this position thanks to Ladybug's CruelMercy. After saving her, Ladybug spells out how she intends to ensure Lila doesn't cause any more trouble by treating her as her ''very special friend'', keeping a close eye on her. Since Lila previously claimed that [[CelebrityLie Ladybug was her best friend]], she can't call her out on this without admitting she lied about ''that'', too... and given how many of her ''other'' [[LiarRevealed lies were revealed]], telling the truth likely [[CassandraTruth wouldn't be believed]], anyway.

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* ''Fanfic/{{BURN THE WITCH|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Lila finds herself in this position thanks to Ladybug's CruelMercy. After saving her, Ladybug spells out how she intends to ensure Lila doesn't cause any more trouble by treating her as her ''very special friend'', keeping a close eye on her. Since Lila previously claimed that [[CelebrityLie Ladybug was her best friend]], she can't call her out on this without admitting she lied about ''that'', too... and given how many of her ''other'' [[LiarRevealed lies were revealed]], telling the truth likely [[CassandraTruth wouldn't be believed]], anyway.



** In [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/post/648584727905943552/hero-chat-truth-yeah-i-figured-i-should-make-a the Hero Chat's version of "Truth"]] Anarka describes the situation that led to her not telling Jagged about Luka as this. While it wasn't the best move, the result of telling Jagged would have either led Jagged to give up his music career for his new family or try to make a balance that would have forced Luka into the spotlight for his entire life.

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** In [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/post/648584727905943552/hero-chat-truth-yeah-i-figured-i-should-make-a the Hero Chat's version of "Truth"]] "Truth"]], Anarka describes the situation that led to her not telling Jagged about Luka as this. While it wasn't the best move, the result of telling Jagged would have either led Jagged to give up his music career for his new family or try to make a balance that would have forced Luka into the spotlight for his entire life.



** Firstly, she dismisses Marinette's attempts to warn her about [[BitchInSheepsClothing Lila's true nature]] as [[YoureJustJealous purely motivated by envy]]. When Rose and Juleka present her with undeniable evidence that Lila ''has'', in fact, lied to them all, she feels as though she has to choose between MovingTheGoalposts and claiming this doesn't prove Lila lied about anything ''else''... or facing the idea that she was wrong. Which is a problem, since she already posted information Lila gave her on her Ladyblog, and issuing a retraction strikes her as a good way to lose the faith they've placed in her. Rejecting their evidence, meanwhile, leads into a ViciousCycle where Alya can't bring herself to admit her mistake, as that means she's done even ''more'' damage to her relationships and reputation [[AllForNothing for no good reason at all]].
** A similar situation develops when she posts a [[ManipulativeEditing Manipulatively Edited]] video on the Ladyblog. When people express suspicion about the video, she feels that all of her options suck: if she admits the truth, she loses the faith her audience placed in her. If she doesn't acknowledge the criticism at all and lets it go unchecked, the commenters have more time to convince others that there's something weird about it. And her attempt to deal with the problem by ''deleting'' all the comments calling her out only riles them up further. This only gets worse once Alya fully recognizes that posting the edited video was a mistake, as she fears that posting any kind of a retraction ''now'', after having tried to silence her critics, will just amplify the backlash.

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** Firstly, she dismisses Marinette's attempts to warn her about [[BitchInSheepsClothing Lila's true nature]] as [[YoureJustJealous purely motivated by envy]]. When Rose and Juleka present her with undeniable evidence that Lila ''has'', in fact, lied to them all, she feels as though she has to choose between MovingTheGoalposts and claiming this doesn't prove Lila lied about anything ''else''... or facing the idea that she was wrong. Which is a problem, since she already posted information Lila gave her on her Ladyblog, and issuing a retraction strikes her as a good way to lose the faith they've placed in her. Rejecting their evidence, meanwhile, leads into a ViciousCycle where Alya can't bring herself to admit her mistake, as that means she's done even ''more'' damage to her relationships and reputation [[AllForNothing for no good reason at all]].
** A similar situation develops when she posts a [[ManipulativeEditing Manipulatively Edited]] manipulatively edited]] video on the Ladyblog. When people express suspicion about the video, she feels that all of her options suck: if she admits the truth, she loses the faith her audience placed in her. If she doesn't acknowledge the criticism at all and lets it go unchecked, the commenters have more time to convince others that there's something weird about it. And her attempt to deal with the problem by ''deleting'' all the comments calling her out only riles them up further. This only gets worse once Alya fully recognizes that posting the edited video was a mistake, as she fears that posting any kind of a retraction ''now'', after having tried to silence her critics, will just amplify the backlash.



* ''Fanfic/ErasedPotential'': In the wake of the USJ incident, all of the students are required to attend mandatory counseling sessions. Shouto regards it as this: if he says too much, Endeavour will punish him for 'tarnishing the family name' and his precious image. If he doesn't say ''anything'', however, the counselor won't clear him to return to school, and his father will punish him for ''that'' instead.

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* ''Fanfic/ErasedPotential'': In the wake of the USJ incident, all of the students are required to attend mandatory counseling sessions. Shouto regards it as this: if he says too much, Endeavour [[AbusiveParents Endeavour]] will punish him for 'tarnishing the family name' and his precious image. If he doesn't say ''anything'', however, the counselor won't clear him to return to school, and his father will punish him for ''that'' instead.



* ''Fanfic/MeanRabbit'': Aizawa [[SadistTeacher comes down hard on Izuku]], claiming that he's just teaching him how life is unfair and that he'll always face hatred and scorn for being Quirkless. If Izuku sticks it out at U.A., Aizawa will take it as proof that his methods worked; if he drops or transfers out, he'll insist it proves that Izuku never had the potential to become a Pro Hero. Izuku's current plan is to stick it out, graduate, then punch Aizawa in the face and tell him that he owes ''nothing'' to his cruelty.
* ''Fanfic/{{Think Before You Speak|MHA}}'': Aizawa's primary justification for targeting Izuku and attempting to force him out of the Hero Course is that he sees the kid as a MartyrWithoutACause who will inevitably get himself killed if he goes Pro. In ''Words May Hurt'', Endeavor learns about this and points out that if Izuku really ''is'' naturally inclined to risk his life to help others, then that's unlikely to change whether he's in the Hero Course or not... and that refusing to teach him might actually make Aizawa look ''worse''.
* In ''Fanfic/ThreeGuysGoToABarAndThenTheyBeatYouWithIt'', Bakugou, Tokoyami and Shinsou are faced with one when Aizawa explains their assignment to them. The three of them have been chosen to play the villains in that semester's final exams, and have two months to brainstorm six different scenarios -- one for each team of classmates they'll be facing off against. If they don't accept this massive responsibility, or the fact that they have been [[{{Typecasting}} typecast]] as antagonists due to their Quirks, then they'll immediately be expelled for the high crime of making Aizawa's job harder.

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* ''Fanfic/MeanRabbit'': Aizawa [[SadistTeacher comes down hard on Izuku]], claiming that he's just teaching him how life is unfair and that [[FantasticAbleism he'll always face hatred and scorn for being Quirkless.Quirkless]]. If Izuku sticks it out at U.A., Aizawa will take it as proof that his methods worked; if he drops or transfers out, he'll insist it proves that Izuku never had the potential to become a Pro Hero. Izuku's current plan is to stick it out, graduate, then punch Aizawa in the face and tell him that he owes ''nothing'' to his cruelty.
* ''Fanfic/{{Think Before You Speak|MHA}}'': Aizawa's primary justification for targeting Izuku and attempting to force him out of the Hero Course is that he sees the kid as a MartyrWithoutACause who will inevitably get himself killed if he goes Pro. In ''Words May Hurt'', Endeavor learns about this and points out that if Izuku really ''is'' naturally inclined to risk his life to help others, then that's unlikely to change whether he's in the Hero Course or not... and that refusing to teach him might actually make Aizawa look ''worse''.
* In ''Fanfic/ThreeGuysGoToABarAndThenTheyBeatYouWithIt'', Bakugou, Tokoyami Tokoyami, and Shinsou are faced with one when Aizawa explains their assignment to them. The three of them have been chosen to play the villains in that semester's final exams, and have two months to brainstorm six different scenarios -- one for each team of classmates they'll be facing off against. If they don't accept this massive responsibility, or the fact that they have been [[{{Typecasting}} typecast]] as antagonists due to their Quirks, then they'll immediately be expelled for the high crime of making Aizawa's job harder.



** It rears its head once more as they near their destination of Sabaody Archipelago. In spite of all the new crew additions, skills and weapons they've gained, Cross knows that the New World is sharply more difficult, and that even if they manage to fluke past Fishman Island, they'd most likely perish once they got to Punk Hazard. Knowing that Kuma is going to arrive to scatter the crew around the world to put them in the places fit for making them strong enough, he's left with the choice of holding his tongue until the last minute and facing Luffy's fury for hiding something this important, or trying to brave the New World as they are and risk dying. [[spoiler:Then when Cross learns Ace had still been captured and set to be executed, he's faced with a similar fork: attempt a rescue mission in a desperate last-ditch attempt to prevent Ace's death, which would most likely result in at least one fatality of their crew, or let Kuma separate them, leaving Luffy to tackle Impel Down and Marineford alone and risk fate being unchanged. In this case, Kuma forces the latter on them, explicitly telling Cross he doesn't have a choice in the matter.]]

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** It rears its head once more as they near their destination of Sabaody Archipelago. In spite of all the new crew additions, skills and weapons they've gained, Cross knows that the New World is sharply more difficult, and that even if they manage to fluke past Fishman Island, they'd most likely perish once they got to Punk Hazard. Knowing that Kuma is going to arrive to scatter the crew around the world to put them in the places fit for making them strong enough, he's left with the choice of holding his tongue until the last minute and facing Luffy's fury for hiding something this important, important or trying to brave the New World as they are and risk dying. [[spoiler:Then when Cross learns Ace had still been captured and set to be executed, he's faced with a similar fork: attempt a rescue mission in a desperate last-ditch attempt to prevent Ace's death, which would most likely result in at least one fatality of their crew, or let Kuma separate them, leaving Luffy to tackle Impel Down and Marineford alone and risk fate being unchanged. In this case, Kuma forces the latter on them, explicitly telling Cross he doesn't have a choice in the matter.]]
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* ''Fanfic/MyHeroAcademiaUnchainedPredator'': The situation with the Slayer is rather peculiar. The two options they have is to let him run free or try to detain him. On one hand, if they allow him to run free, he will easily kill off criminal groups and possibly the League of Villains without All Might having to do a thing. On the other hand, they would have to send All Might in for a round two (something they cannot do), call up Star and Stripe to deal with him, or have Miruko try to reason with him as they would need a total of 100 heroes ''at the least'' to capture him.
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* At the climax of ''Fanfic/APeacefulAfterlife,'' Kira gets under [[BigBad HOLY DIVER's]] skin by pointing out his FreudianExcuse is tied to one. [[spoiler: One of HOLY DIVER's last tasks for Kira was to find the whereabouts of his mother. They're both in Hell, so only one of two conclusions can be correct: Either HOLY DIVER's mother is in Heaven, and he can never see her again, or she's in Hell, and she's not as pure and good as he thought. Kira implies it's the former though, since he never found her. But he did find out his [[AbusiveParents father]] was there and bragged about his role in rearing HOLY DIVER, which Kira rubs in his face.]]

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* At the climax of ''Fanfic/APeacefulAfterlife,'' ''Fanfic/APeacefulAfterlife'', Kira gets under [[BigBad HOLY DIVER's]] skin by pointing out his FreudianExcuse is tied to one. [[spoiler: One of HOLY DIVER's last tasks for Kira was to find the whereabouts of his mother. They're both in Hell, so only one of two conclusions can be correct: Either HOLY DIVER's mother is in Heaven, and he can never see her again, or she's in Hell, and she's not as pure and good as he thought. Kira implies it's the former though, since he never found her. But he did find out his [[AbusiveParents father]] was there and bragged about his role in rearing HOLY DIVER, which Kira rubs in his face.]]



-->'''Shinji:''' (to Asuka) Ever since I converted her to Nurgle, Rei has shown great joy in causing things to break down. Ignore her or she will gain immense satisfaction from your annoyance.\\
'''Rei:''' (smiling) Ignore me and it will come back to bite you.\\
'''Shinji:''' Okay, I’ll amend that. Listen to her at your own risk, but ignore her at your risk as well.

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-->'''Shinji:''' (to Asuka) ''(to Asuka)'' Ever since I converted her to Nurgle, Rei has shown great joy in causing things to break down. Ignore her or she will gain immense satisfaction from your annoyance.\\
'''Rei:''' (smiling) ''(smiling)'' Ignore me and it will come back to bite you.\\
'''Shinji:''' Okay, I’ll I'll amend that. Listen to her at your own risk, but ignore her at your risk as well.



* ''Fanfic/OhYouDontHaveToDoThatCommunication'' is set [[ForWantOfANail in a world where]] the whole class figures out early on that Lila is prone to telling {{Celebrity Lie}}s. However, after dealing with Volpina, Marinette warns Adrien that this doesn't mean it will make it easy to convince their classmates that Lila's also a ManipulativeBitch. After all, her classmates all know that Marinette ''[[BerserkButton HATES]]'' [[BerserkButton liars]], so if she attempts to warn them without having solid proof, they'll just assume that she's jumping to conclusions due to her bias. But if Ladybug informs them of how Lila was akumatized after being called out on her BlatantLies, they'll assume it was just another case of Hawkmoth taking advantage of someone's negative feelings.

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* ''Fanfic/OhYouDontHaveToDoThatCommunication'' is set [[ForWantOfANail [[PointOfDivergence in a world where]] the whole class figures out early on that Lila is prone to telling {{Celebrity Lie}}s. However, after dealing with Volpina, Marinette warns Adrien that this doesn't mean it will make it easy to convince their classmates that Lila's also a ManipulativeBitch. After all, her classmates all know that Marinette ''[[BerserkButton HATES]]'' [[BerserkButton liars]], so if she attempts to warn them without having solid proof, they'll just assume that she's jumping to conclusions due to her bias. But if Ladybug informs them of how Lila was akumatized after being called out on her BlatantLies, they'll assume it was just another case of Hawkmoth taking advantage of someone's negative feelings.



* Adrien faces one in [[https://nobodyfamousposts.tumblr.com/post/734443964533489664/what-if-adrien-rejection-in-felix-culpa this what-if scenario]] when asked point-blank to either confirm or deny whether Lila is a liar. If he admits the truth, then not only will [[LiarRevealed Lila be exposed]] (and blame ''him'' for it), but the rest of the class will learn that he'd ''known'' she was tricking them all and [[BetrayalByInaction chose to stay silent]]. But if he vouches for her, then ''Marinette'' will know that all his claims that they were "in this together" were BlatantLies, plus everyone will remember this once Lila's eventually exposed and realize he lied in an effort to cover his own backside. Ultimately, he attempts to TakeAThirdOption by [[spoiler:claiming he was just trying to protect Lila from Marinette without addressing the matter of her truthfulness; this backfires when Lila twists things around and convinces everyone that he'd lied to Marinette about ''her'' lying in order to manipulate the other girl]].

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* Adrien faces one in [[https://nobodyfamousposts.tumblr.com/post/734443964533489664/what-if-adrien-rejection-in-felix-culpa this what-if scenario]] when asked point-blank to either confirm or deny whether Lila is a liar. If he admits the truth, then not only will [[LiarRevealed Lila be exposed]] (and blame ''him'' for it), but turn on ''him'', the rest of the class will learn that he'd ''known'' she was tricking them all and [[BetrayalByInaction chose to stay silent]]. But if he vouches for her, then ''Marinette'' will know that all his claims that they were "in this together" were BlatantLies, plus everyone will remember this once Lila's eventually exposed and realize he lied in an effort to cover his own backside. Ultimately, he attempts to TakeAThirdOption by [[spoiler:claiming he was just trying to protect Lila from Marinette without addressing the matter of her truthfulness; this backfires when Lila twists things around and convinces everyone that he'd lied to Marinette about ''her'' lying in order to manipulate the other girl]].



* Later in ''Fanfic/SonicXDarkChaos'', Maledict eventually realizes that the entire conflict has become this. Either he ends the stalemate by destroying the Milky Way Galaxy himself with the ''Galaxy Crusher'', or the Shroud are going to eat the entire galaxy and destroy it instead. He decides on the former, rationalizing it as a MercyKill compared to letting the Shroud get more powerful.

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* Adrien faces one in [[https://nobodyfamousposts.tumblr.com/post/734443964533489664/what-if-adrien-rejection-in-felix-culpa this what-if scenario]] when asked point-blank to either confirm or deny whether Lila is a liar. If he admits the truth, then not only will [[LiarRevealed Lila be exposed]] (and blame ''him'' for it), but the rest of the class will learn that he'd ''known'' she was tricking them all and [[BetrayalByInaction chose to stay silent]]. But if he vouches for her, then ''Marinette'' will know that all his claims that they were "in this together" were BlatantLies, plus everyone will remember this once Lila's eventually exposed and realize he lied in an effort to cover his own backside. Ultimately, he attempts to TakeAThirdOption by [[spoiler:claiming he was just trying to protect Lila from Marinette without addressing the matter of her truthfulness; this backfires when Lila twists things around and convinces everyone that he'd lied to Marinette about ''her'' lying in order to manipulate the other girl]].

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* The ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'' fic “[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/14670495/ El Camino a Casa]]” sees Ernesto being faced with a variation of this when he confronts Imelda after Hector’s death after she’s satisfied herself that Ernesto poisoned Hector but has no definite proof of that. Ernesto had intended to take Hector’s already-written songs for himself, but Imelda vowed that if he attempted to use any of Hector’s songs she would reveal her suspicions about his role in Hector’s death, which would at least hamper Ernesto’s reputation even if she couldn’t prove anything. Ernesto threatened to become so famous that it would basically be impossible for Imelda to convince anyone that he killed someone, but Imelda counters that if he becomes that famous he won’t need Hector’s songs anyway. Ultimately, Ernesto becomes famous enough that he has to accept he didn’t need Hector’s songs, but this leads to him dying of alcohol poisoning as he becomes consumed by his own grief and guilt.



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*In ''Fanfic/TheHurricane'', Laurel and Shado [[spoiler:face this when they learn that Ra's plans to work with the Joker to infect most of the other rogues with "Joker Gas" that will turn them into duplicates of the Clown Prince of Crime so that Batman will be forced to turn to the League of Assassins for help. Obviously neither of them agree with this plan, but they have no way of contacting the police or Batman without getting arrested themselves, and may not even be believed anyway]]. After [[spoiler:the Joker uses the gas on the League as well as the villains, with Shado basically sacrificing herself to get Laurel to safety, Laurel is forced to take a chance and contact the Bat-Family for help anyway]].








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* "[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/14670495/ El Camino a Casa]]" sees Ernesto being faced with a variation of this when he confronts Imelda after Hector’s death after she’s satisfied herself that Ernesto poisoned Hector but has no definite proof of that. Ernesto had intended to take Hector’s already-written songs for himself, but Imelda vowed that if he attempted to use any of Hector’s songs she would reveal her suspicions about his role in Hector’s death, which would at least hamper Ernesto’s reputation even if she couldn’t prove anything. Ernesto threatened to become so famous that it would basically be impossible for Imelda to convince anyone that he killed someone, but Imelda counters that if he becomes that famous he won’t need Hector’s songs anyway. Ultimately, Ernesto becomes famous enough that he has to accept he didn’t need Hector’s songs, but this leads to him dying of alcohol poisoning as he becomes consumed by his own grief and guilt.
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* ''Fanfic/OhYouDontHaveToDoThatCommunication'' is set [[ForWantOfANail in a world where]] the whole class figures out early on that Lila is prone to telling {{Celebrity Lie}}s. However, after dealing with Volpina, Marinette warns Adrien that this doesn't mean it will make it easy to convince their classmates that Lila's also a ManipulativeBitch. After all, her classmates all know that Marinette ''[[BerserkButton HATES]]'' [[BerserkButton liars]], so if she attempts to warn them without having solid proof, they'll just assume that she's jumping to conclusions due to her bias. But if Ladybug informs them of how Lila was akumatized after being called out on her BlatantLies, they'll assume it was just another case of Hawkmoth taking advantage of someone's negative feelings.

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* ''Fanfic/{{Think Before You Speak|MHA}}'': Aizawa's primary justification for targeting Izuku and attempting to force him out of the Hero Course is that he sees the kid as a MartyrWithoutACause who will inevitably get himself killed if he goes Pro. In ''Words May Hurt'', Endeavor learns about this and points out that if Izuku really ''is'' naturally inclined to risk his life to help others, then that's unlikely to change whether he's in the Hero Course or not... and that refusing to teach him might actually make Aizawa look ''worse''.



* ''Fanfic/WaitingIsWorthIt'': Inko realizes that when others inevitably learn about Izuku's powers, they might figure out that he has a rare Source Quirk; alternatively, they might believe that his Quirk is the result of Toshinori's One-For-All mixing with her Telekinesis. Problem is that both put her son at risk of being kidnapped or enslaved.




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* In ''Fanfic/UnchainedUmeiNoMai'', Tajima proposes that the Senju clan should move their compound away from the Uchiha's lands. This puts the clan in a terrible position:
** On one hand, moving will require them to negotiate with the Daimyo for the right to settle elsewhere. The Daimyo is likely to exploit this by forcing them to move closer to the capital city in order to keep them under his thumb. In addition, only the warriors and their families would be moving away, as the farmers living on their current lands aren't actually part of the Senju clan; they had their homes imposed upon and were forced to work for the Senju, with their sons being drafted to join them.
** On the other hand, they could refuse to move on the grounds that they've been living in their current position for several centuries. Problem is that their initial treaty with the Daimyo specifically stated that they were a ''nomadic'' clan made up of only warriors and their immediate dependents, with no permanent settlement. This means that declaring their current location to be where they've lived for generations would effectively be an admission of ''tax fraud'', either putting the Senju into enormous debt or resulting in mass executions.
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* This trope is [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] (by name, no less) during Chapter 1 of ''Fanfic/FracturedFates'', as the first motive boils down to this: If a murder doesn't happen by midnight the day after the motive is announced, then Monokuma will randomly kill one student that same night, and will continue to randomly kill one student each night until a murder ''does'' happen. However, if someone ''does'' commit murder, then a classmate will still be dead and the surviving students will be put through a class trial where either the rest of the spotless or the blackened will be killed.

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* This trope is [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] {{Discussed|Trope}} (by name, no less) during Chapter 1 of ''Fanfic/FracturedFates'', as the first motive boils down to this: If a murder doesn't happen by midnight the day after the motive is announced, then Monokuma will randomly kill one student that same night, and will continue to randomly kill one student each night until a murder ''does'' happen. However, if someone ''does'' commit murder, then a classmate will still be dead and the surviving students will be put through a class trial where either the rest of the spotless or the blackened will be killed.
* ''Fanfic/HopeOnADistantMountain'': This was how the [[UnwinnableTrainingSimulation D-course simulator]] was ''meant'' to work: no matter what the player did, they would inevitably fall into one of these situations. Even if the player managed to avoid becoming a victim, a murderer, or falling into despair, there was no way of escaping; any attempt would inevitably end in the player's demise. At best, they might be able to fall into a 'holding pattern' where the player couldn't act against the Mastermind and the Mastermind couldn't act against them. Makoto managed to 'break' the game by doing something Tacitus never anticipated.



* ''[[Fanfic/BurnTheWitchMiraculousLadybug BURN THE WITCH]]'': Lila finds herself in this position thanks to Ladybug's CruelMercy. After saving her, Ladybug spells out how she intends to ensure Lila doesn't cause any more trouble by treating her as her ''very special friend'', keeping a close eye on her. Since Lila previously claimed that [[CelebrityLie Ladybug was her best friend]], she can't call her out on this without admitting she lied about ''that'', too... and given how many of her ''other'' [[LiarRevealed lies were revealed]], telling the truth likely [[CassandraTruth wouldn't be believed]], anyway.
* ''Fanfic/DreadStringOfFate'': Whenever Marinette attempts to get closer to Adrien or [[LoveConfession reveal her crush on him]], the RedStringOfFate [[StrangledByTheRedString wrapped around her neck]] [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption prevents her from succeeding]], often [[HumiliationConga humiliating her in the process]]. Whenever she considers giving up, the string undercuts her efforts and punishes her for even ''considering'' it.

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* ''[[Fanfic/BurnTheWitchMiraculousLadybug BURN ''Fanfic/{{BURN THE WITCH]]'': WITCH|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Lila finds herself in this position thanks to Ladybug's CruelMercy. After saving her, Ladybug spells out how she intends to ensure Lila doesn't cause any more trouble by treating her as her ''very special friend'', keeping a close eye on her. Since Lila previously claimed that [[CelebrityLie Ladybug was her best friend]], she can't call her out on this without admitting she lied about ''that'', too... and given how many of her ''other'' [[LiarRevealed lies were revealed]], telling the truth likely [[CassandraTruth wouldn't be believed]], anyway.
* ''Fanfic/DreadStringOfFate'': Whenever Marinette attempts to get closer to Adrien or [[LoveConfession reveal her crush on him]], the RedStringOfFate [[StrangledByTheRedString wrapped around her neck]] inevitably [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption prevents her from succeeding]], often [[HumiliationConga humiliating her in the process]]. Whenever she considers giving up, the string undercuts her efforts and punishes her for even ''considering'' it.



** A similar situation develops when she posts a [[ManipulativeEditing Manipulatively Edited]] video on the Ladyblog. When people express suspicion about the video, she feels that all of her options suck: if she admits the truth, she loses the faith her audience placed in her. If she doesn't acknowledge the criticism at all and lets it go unchecked, the commenters have more time to convince others that there's something weird about it. And ''deleting'' the comments only riles them up further. This only gets worse once Alya fully recognizes that posting the edited video was a mistake, as she fears that posting any kind of a retraction ''now'', after having tried to silence her critics, will just amplify the backlash.

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** A similar situation develops when she posts a [[ManipulativeEditing Manipulatively Edited]] video on the Ladyblog. When people express suspicion about the video, she feels that all of her options suck: if she admits the truth, she loses the faith her audience placed in her. If she doesn't acknowledge the criticism at all and lets it go unchecked, the commenters have more time to convince others that there's something weird about it. And her attempt to deal with the problem by ''deleting'' all the comments calling her out only riles them up further. This only gets worse once Alya fully recognizes that posting the edited video was a mistake, as she fears that posting any kind of a retraction ''now'', after having tried to silence her critics, will just amplify the backlash.



* ''[[Fanfic/ApotheosisMHA Apotheosis]]'': All Might's fight with Izuku at Coruscant Stadium hinges on this:
** If Izuku wins, All Might faces depowerment, could be killed or [[spoiler:arrested and imprisioned for assaulting a government official]], leaving Izuku completely unopposed.

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* ''[[Fanfic/ApotheosisMHA Apotheosis]]'': ''Fanfic/{{Apotheosis|MHA}}'': All Might's fight with Izuku at Coruscant Stadium hinges on this:
** If Izuku wins, All Might faces depowerment, could be killed or [[spoiler:arrested and imprisioned imprisoned for assaulting a government official]], leaving Izuku completely unopposed.



* ''Fanfic/{{Chiaroscuro}}'': The idea of the 'Friendship Rule' is [[DeconstructionFic Deconstructed]] this way. If you prioritize a mission over your teammates, then you're abandoning your friends and allies, potentially leaving them to die. But if you prioritize your teammates first, then ''other'' friends of yours who were depending on you taking that mission are likely to suffer instead.

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* ''Fanfic/{{Chiaroscuro}}'': ''Fanfic/{{Chiaroscuro|Naruto}}'': The idea of the 'Friendship Rule' is [[DeconstructionFic Deconstructed]] {{Deconstruct|ionFic}}ed this way. If you prioritize a mission over your teammates, then you're abandoning your friends and allies, potentially leaving them to die. But if you prioritize your teammates first, then ''other'' friends of yours who were depending on you taking upon the success of that mission are likely to suffer instead.




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* ''Fanfic/{{sunflower|Naruto}}'': While [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech ripping Kakashi a new one]], General Okami orders him to shut up... then accuses him of giving her "the silent treatment". When Kakashi points out that she ''told him'' to be quiet, she claims that he's attempting to blame his 'insubordination' on her. Suffice to say, Okami really doesn't like Kakashi.



* ''Fanfic/FallenKingdom'': Koops is stuck in one of these when Larry sends him after Mario's other partners. Either he fights his old friends, possibly killing them, or he ''doesn't'' fight -- and his slave seal activates, killing him and his family. Thankfully, a third option arises when [[spoiler:Vivian burns off his slave seal, letting him join the resistance.]]

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* ''Fanfic/FallenKingdom'': Koops is stuck in one of these when Larry sends him after Mario's other partners. Either he fights his old friends, possibly killing them, or he ''doesn't'' fight -- and his slave seal activates, killing him and his family. Thankfully, a third option arises when [[spoiler:Vivian burns off his slave seal, letting him join the resistance.]]
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*The ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'' fic “[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/14670495/ El Camino a Casa]]” sees Ernesto being faced with a variation of this when he confronts Imelda after Hector’s death after she’s satisfied herself that Ernesto poisoned Hector but has no definite proof of that. Ernesto had intended to take Hector’s already-written songs for himself, but Imelda vowed that if he attempted to use any of Hector’s songs she would reveal her suspicions about his role in Hector’s death, which would at least hamper Ernesto’s reputation even if she couldn’t prove anything. Ernesto threatened to become so famous that it would basically be impossible for Imelda to convince anyone that he killed someone, but Imelda counters that if he becomes that famous he won’t need Hector’s songs anyway. Ultimately, Ernesto becomes famous enough that he has to accept he didn’t need Hector’s songs, but this leads to him dying of alcohol poisoning as he becomes consumed by his own grief and guilt.
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* ''Blessings of the Goddess'' (NSFW): After Mei defeats Momo in the tournament, Momo congratulates the former on the victory. When Mei states that Izuku developed and crafted a good part of the gear (which Momo had previously openly disbelieved), Momo calls her a cheater. Mei then points out the contradiction: either Mei won cleanly, or she cheated and Izuku is smart enough to develop the incredibly advanced technology she's used. Either way, Momo has to acknowledge she was wrong about something.
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* ''Fanfic/TheChosenSix'';
** When the Six pull off their scheme on Draco and Pansy, the former point out that no matter what they do, they lose: either they cut off their deal with Skeeter or not only do their naked pictures end up being spread, their role in Skeeter's campaign against the Six would be revealed.
** While the Gryffindor team are preparing for the first Quidditch game of the Six's fifth year against Ravenclaw, they're all aware that Cho is currently the weak link due to her grief over Cedric. Nobody likes the idea of using that weakness against Cho, even if they all agree that they won't actively taunt her about it, and there are rumors that Cho will be dropped from the team if she loses this game, but the idea of deliberately losing to "help" Cho won't help matters either. On top of the above issues, [[spoiler:Umbridge ultimately gets Harry, Fred, George and Angelina banned from the team for "bad sportsmanship" just to be petty and hurt Sirius by proxy]].
** Dumbledore observes that [[spoiler:Umbridge giving the Inquisitorial Squad the power to inflict physical violence on other students puts him in an unfortunate position as he will ''have'' to expel those students once Umbridge has been forced out of the school as they have proven themselves to be cruel people who none of the other students can forgive, but he is fully aware that these students will subsequently join Voldemort as the only one who would accept them]].

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* ''Fanfic/WeMustBeKillers'': District 1 potential tributes who wash out of the Career Academy are enslaved and pimped out or made to work in the mines, but any who do well enough are sent into the Hunger Games and either die or live to become a SexSlave. As a result, District 1 victors who [[SuicideByCop wanted to lose the games]] but failed to find a plausible way to do so (which is almost all of them) tend to be depressed and caustic.

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District 1 potential tributes who wash out of the Career Academy are enslaved and pimped out or made to work in the mines, but any who do well enough are sent into the Hunger Games and either die or live to become a SexSlave. As a result, District 1 victors who [[SuicideByCop wanted to lose the games]] but failed to find a plausible way to do so (which is almost all of them) tend to be depressed and caustic.
** In ''The End is the Beginning is the End'', Ronan is deeply exasperated and concerned as he watches the victors defy and bait the Capitol throughout the Quell interviews, saying that Snow's vindictive pride won't let him show them any mercy now and the smart move would have been to play nice and hope he'd be magnamious (although he grudgingly acknowledges that Lyme and the others are right to snark that "You can't blame them for not holding their breath on that one.").
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* ''Fanfic/{{Chiaroscuro|Naruto}}'': The idea of the 'Friendship Rule' is [[DeconstructionFic Deconstructed]] this way. If you prioritize a mission over your teammates, then you're abandoning your friends and allies, potentially leaving them to die. But if you prioritize your teammates first, then ''other'' friends of yours who were depending on you taking that mission are likely to suffer instead.

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* ''Fanfic/{{Chiaroscuro|Naruto}}'': ''Fanfic/{{Chiaroscuro}}'': The idea of the 'Friendship Rule' is [[DeconstructionFic Deconstructed]] this way. If you prioritize a mission over your teammates, then you're abandoning your friends and allies, potentially leaving them to die. But if you prioritize your teammates first, then ''other'' friends of yours who were depending on you taking that mission are likely to suffer instead.
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* ''Fanfic/WeMustBeKillers'': District 1 potential tributes who wash out of the Career Academy are enslaved and pimped out or made to work in the mines, but any who do well enough are sent into the Hunger Games and either die or live to become a SexSlave. As a result, District 1 victors who [[SuicideByCop wanted to lose the games]] but failed to find a plausible way to do so (which is almost all of them) tend to be depressed and caustic.
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* ''[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/one-more-trigger-worm-au.3830/ One More Trigger]]'' has a truly karmic example, when Tattletale calls Coil and tells him that she has the information she was sent to get, and that she needs to be extracted. [[spoiler:He splits the timeline, with one version sending a pickup and the other refusing, figuring that whether she's betrayed him or not, he'll just keep whichever one works out better. But the call was actually just to ensure that he would be distracted by her, while the team hits his base. Furthermore, unbeknownst to Tattletale, the very fact that he split the timeline for her meant he was already doomed, since he had to drop his "safe" timeline to do it.]]

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* ''[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/one-more-trigger-worm-au.3830/ One More Trigger]]'' ''Fanfic/OneMoreTrigger'' has a truly karmic example, when Tattletale calls Coil and tells him that she has the information she was sent to get, and that she needs to be extracted. [[spoiler:He splits the timeline, with one version sending a pickup and the other refusing, figuring that whether she's betrayed him or not, he'll just keep whichever one works out better. But the call was actually just to ensure that he would be distracted by her, while the team hits his base. Furthermore, unbeknownst to Tattletale, the very fact that he split the timeline for her meant he was already doomed, since he had to drop his "safe" timeline to do it.]]
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/42311133/chapters/108639616 Wilted Flowers]]'': After learning that Izuku is related to All For One, Aizawa subjects him to a furious interrogation. Izuku repeatedly [[CassandraTruth insists that he didn't know]], given how his father completely abandoned their family when he was four. When Aizawa finally seems to accept that Izuku is telling the truth, he smirks cruelly and declares that Izuku "went after a dangerous supervillain without having all the facts." Just to twist the knife, he [[MaliciousMisnaming calls him "Deku"]].

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