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*** But then, if people don't really believe in anything, then there should be nothing "backing" the scientific consensus either. Because this is all about belief. Either people do believe(in which case you've got a majority of religious people - shouldn't be too hard to convince them that there's a new breed of holy men), they don't believe(but then the scientific paradigm is not backed up by anything anyway, so why should it inflict Paradox?) or people do believe in the scientific paradigm as a majority. But then we're talking about a world utterly divorced from our reality - and part of the appeal of TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness was always that it was world "like ours but with supernatural" (and DarkerAndEdgier).

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*** But then, if people don't really believe in anything, then there should be nothing "backing" the scientific consensus either. Because this is all about belief. Either people do believe(in believe (in which case you've got a majority of religious people - shouldn't be too hard to convince them that there's a new breed of holy men), they don't believe(but believe (but then the scientific paradigm is not backed up by anything anyway, so why should it inflict Paradox?) or people do believe in the scientific paradigm as a majority. But then we're talking about a world utterly divorced from our reality - and part of the appeal of TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness was always that it was world "like ours but with supernatural" (and DarkerAndEdgier).
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*** Almost every work that exists in our world seems to exist in theirs; ''Guide to the Technocracy'' threw a lot of hints that most of their terminology does in fact spring from the real-world sources ("bangin' a baa" refers to the [[CloningBlues Dolly cloning]], the "Be seeing you" phrase is a ShoutOut to ''Series/{{The Prisoner|1967}}'', etc), and is used ironically by a Technocracy well aware of what the Deviants think of them (and possibly how some Sleepers would interpret the Technocracy if they knew about it). Also, remember that the Technocratic Union existed long before Orwell wrote ''1984'', and it's specifically referenced in ''Guide'' as meaning 'out-of-date, over the top, unwieldy/cliche," as in: "Seriously? That's so ''1984''." That seems to support the view of the Technocracy using dystopian police-state terms as a satire of how deadly-serious others might take them.

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*** Almost every work that exists in our world seems to exist in theirs; ''Guide to the Technocracy'' threw a lot of hints that most of their terminology does in fact spring from the real-world sources ("bangin' a baa" refers to the [[CloningBlues Dolly cloning]], cloning, the "Be seeing you" phrase is a ShoutOut to ''Series/{{The Prisoner|1967}}'', etc), and is used ironically by a Technocracy well aware of what the Deviants think of them (and possibly how some Sleepers would interpret the Technocracy if they knew about it). Also, remember that the Technocratic Union existed long before Orwell wrote ''1984'', and it's specifically referenced in ''Guide'' as meaning 'out-of-date, over the top, unwieldy/cliche," as in: "Seriously? That's so ''1984''." That seems to support the view of the Technocracy using dystopian police-state terms as a satire of how deadly-serious others might take them.

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*** It should be noted that of all the Conventions the Void Engineers are hand down the ''[[TokenGoodTeammate least]]'' hostile to other Mage factions. The fact that despite the Techoncracy's claims of IDidWhatIHadToDo the 1/6 of them most likely to fight [[EldritchAbomination alien horrors]] are the most accepting of other groups and the least accepting of the Technocracy's methods of control is pretty telling.



*** ...You seriously forgot about that "third faction"? Even though it's the one that, y'know, the main gameline is named after?

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*** ...You seriously forgot about that "third faction"? Even though it's the one that, y'know, the main gameline is named after?
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*** Almost every work that exists in our world seems to exist in theirs; ''Guide to the Technocracy'' threw a lot of hints that most of their terminology does in fact spring from the real-world sources ("bangin' a baa" refers to the [[CloningBlues Dolly cloning]], the "Be seeing you" phrase is a ShoutOut to ''Series/ThePrisoner'', etc), and is used ironically by a Technocracy well aware of what the Deviants think of them (and possibly how some Sleepers would interpret the Technocracy if they knew about it). Also, remember that the Technocratic Union existed long before Orwell wrote ''1984'', and it's specifically referenced in ''Guide'' as meaning 'out-of-date, over the top, unwieldy/cliche," as in: "Seriously? That's so ''1984''." That seems to support the view of the Technocracy using dystopian police-state terms as a satire of how deadly-serious others might take them.

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*** Almost every work that exists in our world seems to exist in theirs; ''Guide to the Technocracy'' threw a lot of hints that most of their terminology does in fact spring from the real-world sources ("bangin' a baa" refers to the [[CloningBlues Dolly cloning]], the "Be seeing you" phrase is a ShoutOut to ''Series/ThePrisoner'', ''Series/{{The Prisoner|1967}}'', etc), and is used ironically by a Technocracy well aware of what the Deviants think of them (and possibly how some Sleepers would interpret the Technocracy if they knew about it). Also, remember that the Technocratic Union existed long before Orwell wrote ''1984'', and it's specifically referenced in ''Guide'' as meaning 'out-of-date, over the top, unwieldy/cliche," as in: "Seriously? That's so ''1984''." That seems to support the view of the Technocracy using dystopian police-state terms as a satire of how deadly-serious others might take them.

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