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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Mathias blackmails Chloe, threatening to reveal the affair to her lover's wife.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Mathias is definitely this in his quest to sell the apartment. However, the apartment ''is'' his, and he honestly needs the money. [[spoiler:Mathilde seems to believe that her affair was a-okay because she stayed in her marriage and provided a home for her daughter. She admits that she stayed in her marriage because [[GoldDigger her husband was more sucessful]], and it seemed to be the better plan.]]
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'''Mattias:''' The guy in the restaurant. He looked familiar. I think I saw him duck into a hotel with you the other day. But today he didn't seem quite so happy to see you, [[YourCheatingHeart what with the wife and all, the kids.]]\\
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Flat broke and with no place to go, Mathilde allows him to stay in the apartment as long as he pays the rent. All the while, [[BelligerentSexualTension he butts heads with Chloe]], who makes it clear that he is not welcome in her home. But the situation take a sudden turn when Mathilde unveils a secret: [[spoiler: she and Mathias' father had been carrying on [[YourCheatingHeart an affair]] until the day his mother died]]. How will Mathias handle this revelation?
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Flat broke and with no place to go, Mathilde allows him to stay in the apartment as long as he pays the rent. All the while, [[BelligerentSexualTension he butts heads with Chloe]], who makes it clear that he is not welcome in her home. But the situation take a sudden turn when Mathilde unveils a secret: [[spoiler: she secret, and Mathias' father had been carrying on [[YourCheatingHeart an affair]] until the day his mother died]]. How will how Mathias will handle this revelation?
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* BittersweetEnding: Chloe and Mathias get together. [[spoiler:However, they still have their issues to deal with, and Mathilde [[KarmaHoudini never really pays for her actions]].]]
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* CoolOldLady: {{Subverted|Trope}} with Mathilde. [[spoiler:It's hard to think of her this way after she reveals [[ItsAllAboutMe her deluded attitude]] [[SelectiveObliviousness towards]] [[NoSympathy Mathias and Chloes' trauma and misery]].]]
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* [[spoiler: {{Ate His Gun}}]]: [[spoiler: How Mrs. Gold killed herself.]]
* {{Bittersweet Ending}}: Chloe and Mathias get together. [[spoiler: However, they still have their issues to deal with, and Mathilde [[KarmaHoudini never really pays for her actions]].]]
* {{Broken Bird}}: Both Mathias and Chloe, [[MissingDad thanks]] [[ParentalNeglect to]] [[YourCheatingHeart their]] [[DrivenToSuicide parents]]. No wonder they [[LonelyTogether fall for each]] [[BirdsOfAFeather other in the end.]]
* [[spoiler: {{Brother Sister Incest}}]]: [[spoiler: Thankfully Subverted]]
* {{Cool Old Lady}}: Mathilde. [[spoiler: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] It's hard to think of her this way after she reveals [[ItsAllAboutMe her deluded attitude]] [[SelectiveObliviousness towards]] [[NoSympathy Mathias and Chloes' trauma and misery]].]]
* {{Daddy Issues}} / {{Mommy Issues}}
* {{Dark And Troubled Past}}
* {{Deadpan Snarker}}: Mathias in spades.
* {{December December Romance}}: Mathias and Chloe
* [[spoiler: {{Driven To Suicide}}]]: [[spoiler: Mathias' mother.]]
** {{Bungled Suicide}}: Mathias cut his wrists at the age of forty and ended up in the hospital. [[spoiler: His mother attempted suicide 10 to 15 times and ultimately succeeded.]]
* {{Drowning My Sorrows}}: Mathias (a former alcoholic) takes up drinking again [[spoiler: when he finds out that his father was having an affair with Mathilde]].
--> '''Mathias (to a passing couple)''': Bonsoir. The end of my wagonhood. Cheers.
* {{Dysfunctional Family}}: ''Oh dear.''
* {{Everyone Has Standards}}: Mathias isn't exactly a paragon of virtue, but he definitely thinks that infidelity is a no-no.
* {{Generation Xerox}}: Chloe is having an affair with a family man. [[spoiler: Her mother and Mathias' father carried on a lengthy affair.]]
* {{Grade System Snark}}: In the end, as he begins the process of healing, Mathias acknowledges that his father did a good thing to send him to Paris. However, he still gives his father a '''three''' on a scale of one-hundred.
* {{Its All About Me}}: Mathias is definitely this in his quest to sell the apartment. However, the apartment '''IS''' his, and he honestly needs the money. [[spoiler: Mathilde seems to believe that her affair was a-okay because she stayed in her marriage and provided a home for her daughter. She admits that she stayed in her marriage because [[GoldDigger her husband was more sucessful]], and it seemed to be the better plan.]]
* {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}}: Mathias and Chloe. [[spoiler: And Mathilde too.]]
** {{Jerkass Woobie}}: When it's all said and done, Matthias and Chloe are both sad human beings [[spoiler: with a childhood scarred by [[ItsAllAboutMe their parents' selfish behavior]].]]
* {{Jerkass}}: '''MAX GOLD'''. [[spoiler: Let's see... cheated on his wife for the entirety of their marriage, neglected his family...oh, and he didn't bother to visit Mathias in the hospital (due a suicide attempt no less!) and he was only '''six blocks away'''! Can somebody say asshole?]]
** [[spoiler: [[HeelRealization However, he immediately stopped seeing Mathilde after his wife committed suicide]] and only spoke to her through letters.]]
* {{Kick The Dog}}: [[spoiler: Mrs. Gold committed suicide right in front of Mathias. [[BrokenBird The effects were lasting]].]]
* {{Kick The Son Of A Bitch}}: Mathias blackmails Chloe, threatening to reveal the affair to her lover's wife.
* {{Love Hurts}}
* [[spoiler: {{Mamas Baby Papas Maybe}}]]: [[spoiler: Mathias and Chloe suspect that they are brother and sister. Which causes… [[BrotherSisterIncest problems]]. Mathilde denies it at first… but admits that she doesn't know. In the end, Mathias gets a [[DaddyDNATest DNA test]], proving that they are in fact "NOT family", putting an end to the drama.]]
* {{Never My Fault}}: Mathilde never seems to own up to the fact [[spoiler: that Mathias and Chloe's unhappiness is the result of her affair with Max. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] - However, by her reaction to Mathias' accusations, she might simply be in denial. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone And she collapses when Mathias tells her that his mother killed herself,]] revealing that Max lied to her, saying his wife died of an illness.]]
* {{Parental Neglect}}: Max obliviously didn't win "Dad Of the Year" Award. [[spoiler: Chloe claims that her father had no love for her because [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe he thought she wasn't his daughter]].]]
* {{The Reason You Suck Speech}}: Mathias gives Mathilde a few of these after [[spoiler: she admits that she was having an affair with his father]]. He also gives one to Chloe when he confronts her about her affair with Phillipe. She later [[HeelRealization takes this to heart]] and ends the affair.
--> '''Matthias''': So, uh, tell me. Who's the guy in the restaurant?\\
'''Chloe''': [[FlatWhat What?]]\\
'''Mattias''': The guy in the restaurant. He looked familiar. I think I saw him duck into a hotel with you the other day. But today he didn't seem quite so happy to see you, [[YourCheatingHeart what with the wife and all, the kids.]]\\
'''Chloe''': How dare you!\\
'''Mathias''': [[WhatTheHellHero Oh, I dare!]] [[HypocrisyNod You give me all that holier-than-thou crap about family and tradition, and you're doing the hoopie with somebody's husband, some kid's dad?]] And I'm a heartless bastard because I want to sell an apartment?\\
'''Chloe''': This is not your affair.\\
'''Mathias''': Oh. [[DeadpanSnarker Good choice of words]].
--> [[spoiler: '''Mathilde''': [[ItsAllAboutMe What went on between your father and me concerned nobody but us]]. [[RuleofThree We were discreet. We were cautious.We were considerate.]]\\
'''Mathias''': [[SarcasmMode I-I don't wish to cloud your delusions in any way]], Mrs. G, but [[YourCheatingHeart what went on between you and my father…]] [[BreakTheCutie concerned me and your daughter quite significantly.]] You were hardly discreet, not at all cautious. And considerate? Hmm. Well, uh-- In view of the [[BungledSuicide 10 to 15 suicide failures of my mother…]] and the ultimate suicide success, I just don't see how the word "considerate" fits in, exactly.]]
* {{Scenery Porn}}: Inevitable. This '''IS''' UsefulNotes/{{Paris}}.
* {{Selective Obliviousness}}: Mathilde doesn't seem to realize [[spoiler: that her affair made Chloe's childhood miserable or that her lover was a [[MissingDad lousy father]] and a jerkass husband.]]
* {{There Are No Therapists}}: Averted. It just didn't work.
* {{Troubling Unchildlike Behavior}}: [[spoiler: As a child, Mathias once resorted to '''self-harm''' to distract his mother from killing herself.]]
* {{Tsundere}}: Chloe is a type A to Mathias.
* {{Well Done Son Guy}}: Mathias towards his father…
* {{Wham Line}}: [[spoiler: ''"Your father and I were lovers...since I was 29."'']] From here on, [[WhamEpisode the film shifts gears, and the drama kicks in.]]
* {{What The Hell Hero}}: Mathias calls Chloe out on her affair with Phillipe, a married man with two children. [[spoiler: Later, he mercilessly tears into Mathilde when he finds out about her affair with his father.]]
* {{Your Cheating Heart}}: Discussed - The major theme of the film is the long-reaching effects of adultery, especially when it comes to the most innocent party of the situation… ''the children''.
* [[spoiler: {{Ate His Gun}}]]: [[spoiler: How Mrs. Gold killed herself.]]
* {{Bittersweet Ending}}: Chloe and Mathias get together. [[spoiler: However, they still have their issues to deal with, and Mathilde [[KarmaHoudini never really pays for her actions]].]]
* {{Broken Bird}}: Both Mathias and Chloe, [[MissingDad thanks]] [[ParentalNeglect to]] [[YourCheatingHeart their]] [[DrivenToSuicide parents]]. No wonder they [[LonelyTogether fall for each]] [[BirdsOfAFeather other in the end.]]
* [[spoiler: {{Brother Sister Incest}}]]: [[spoiler: Thankfully Subverted]]
* {{Cool Old Lady}}: Mathilde. [[spoiler: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] It's hard to think of her this way after she reveals [[ItsAllAboutMe her deluded attitude]] [[SelectiveObliviousness towards]] [[NoSympathy Mathias and Chloes' trauma and misery]].]]
* {{Daddy Issues}} / {{Mommy Issues}}
* {{Dark And Troubled Past}}
* {{Deadpan Snarker}}: Mathias in spades.
* {{December December Romance}}: Mathias and Chloe
* [[spoiler: {{Driven To Suicide}}]]: [[spoiler: Mathias' mother.]]
** {{Bungled Suicide}}: Mathias cut his wrists at the age of forty and ended up in the hospital. [[spoiler: His mother attempted suicide 10 to 15 times and ultimately succeeded.]]
* {{Drowning My Sorrows}}: Mathias (a former alcoholic) takes up drinking again [[spoiler: when he finds out that his father was having an affair with Mathilde]].
--> '''Mathias (to a passing couple)''': Bonsoir. The end of my wagonhood. Cheers.
* {{Dysfunctional Family}}: ''Oh dear.''
* {{Everyone Has Standards}}: Mathias isn't exactly a paragon of virtue, but he definitely thinks that infidelity is a no-no.
* {{Generation Xerox}}: Chloe is having an affair with a family man. [[spoiler: Her mother and Mathias' father carried on a lengthy affair.]]
* {{Grade System Snark}}: In the end, as he begins the process of healing, Mathias acknowledges that his father did a good thing to send him to Paris. However, he still gives his father a '''three''' on a scale of one-hundred.
* {{Its All About Me}}: Mathias is definitely this in his quest to sell the apartment. However, the apartment '''IS''' his, and he honestly needs the money. [[spoiler: Mathilde seems to believe that her affair was a-okay because she stayed in her marriage and provided a home for her daughter. She admits that she stayed in her marriage because [[GoldDigger her husband was more sucessful]], and it seemed to be the better plan.]]
* {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}}: Mathias and Chloe. [[spoiler: And Mathilde too.]]
** {{Jerkass Woobie}}: When it's all said and done, Matthias and Chloe are both sad human beings [[spoiler: with a childhood scarred by [[ItsAllAboutMe their parents' selfish behavior]].]]
* {{Jerkass}}: '''MAX GOLD'''. [[spoiler: Let's see... cheated on his wife for the entirety of their marriage, neglected his family...oh, and he didn't bother to visit Mathias in the hospital (due a suicide attempt no less!) and he was only '''six blocks away'''! Can somebody say asshole?]]
** [[spoiler: [[HeelRealization However, he immediately stopped seeing Mathilde after his wife committed suicide]] and only spoke to her through letters.]]
* {{Kick The Dog}}: [[spoiler: Mrs. Gold committed suicide right in front of Mathias. [[BrokenBird The effects were lasting]].]]
* {{Kick The Son Of A Bitch}}: Mathias blackmails Chloe, threatening to reveal the affair to her lover's wife.
* {{Love Hurts}}
* [[spoiler: {{Mamas Baby Papas Maybe}}]]: [[spoiler: Mathias and Chloe suspect that they are brother and sister. Which causes… [[BrotherSisterIncest problems]]. Mathilde denies it at first… but admits that she doesn't know. In the end, Mathias gets a [[DaddyDNATest DNA test]], proving that they are in fact "NOT family", putting an end to the drama.]]
* {{Never My Fault}}: Mathilde never seems to own up to the fact [[spoiler: that Mathias and Chloe's unhappiness is the result of her affair with Max. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] - However, by her reaction to Mathias' accusations, she might simply be in denial. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone And she collapses when Mathias tells her that his mother killed herself,]] revealing that Max lied to her, saying his wife died of an illness.]]
* {{Parental Neglect}}: Max obliviously didn't win "Dad Of the Year" Award. [[spoiler: Chloe claims that her father had no love for her because [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe he thought she wasn't his daughter]].]]
* {{The Reason You Suck Speech}}: Mathias gives Mathilde a few of these after [[spoiler: she admits that she was having an affair with his father]]. He also gives one to Chloe when he confronts her about her affair with Phillipe. She later [[HeelRealization takes this to heart]] and ends the affair.
--> '''Matthias''': So, uh, tell me. Who's the guy in the restaurant?\\
'''Chloe''': [[FlatWhat What?]]\\
'''Mattias''': The guy in the restaurant. He looked familiar. I think I saw him duck into a hotel with you the other day. But today he didn't seem quite so happy to see you, [[YourCheatingHeart what with the wife and all, the kids.]]\\
'''Chloe''': How dare you!\\
'''Mathias''': [[WhatTheHellHero Oh, I dare!]] [[HypocrisyNod You give me all that holier-than-thou crap about family and tradition, and you're doing the hoopie with somebody's husband, some kid's dad?]] And I'm a heartless bastard because I want to sell an apartment?\\
'''Chloe''': This is not your affair.\\
'''Mathias''': Oh. [[DeadpanSnarker Good choice of words]].
--> [[spoiler: '''Mathilde''': [[ItsAllAboutMe What went on between your father and me concerned nobody but us]]. [[RuleofThree We were discreet. We were cautious.We were considerate.]]\\
'''Mathias''': [[SarcasmMode I-I don't wish to cloud your delusions in any way]], Mrs. G, but [[YourCheatingHeart what went on between you and my father…]] [[BreakTheCutie concerned me and your daughter quite significantly.]] You were hardly discreet, not at all cautious. And considerate? Hmm. Well, uh-- In view of the [[BungledSuicide 10 to 15 suicide failures of my mother…]] and the ultimate suicide success, I just don't see how the word "considerate" fits in, exactly.]]
* {{Scenery Porn}}: Inevitable. This '''IS''' UsefulNotes/{{Paris}}.
* {{Selective Obliviousness}}: Mathilde doesn't seem to realize [[spoiler: that her affair made Chloe's childhood miserable or that her lover was a [[MissingDad lousy father]] and a jerkass husband.]]
* {{There Are No Therapists}}: Averted. It just didn't work.
* {{Troubling Unchildlike Behavior}}: [[spoiler: As a child, Mathias once resorted to '''self-harm''' to distract his mother from killing herself.]]
* {{Tsundere}}: Chloe is a type A to Mathias.
* {{Well Done Son Guy}}: Mathias towards his father…
* {{Wham Line}}: [[spoiler: ''"Your father and I were lovers...since I was 29."'']] From here on, [[WhamEpisode the film shifts gears, and the drama kicks in.]]
* {{What The Hell Hero}}: Mathias calls Chloe out on her affair with Phillipe, a married man with two children. [[spoiler: Later, he mercilessly tears into Mathilde when he finds out about her affair with his father.]]
* {{Your Cheating Heart}}: Discussed - The major theme of the film is the long-reaching effects of adultery, especially when it comes to the most innocent party of the situation… ''the children''.
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'''Mathias''': [[SarcasmMode I-I don't wish to cloud your delusions in any way]], Mrs. G, but [[YourCheatingHeart what went on between you and my father…]] concerned me and your daughter quite significantly. You were hardly discreet, not at all cautious. And considerate? Hmm. Well, uh-- In view of the [[BungledSuicide 10 to 15 suicide failures of my mother…]] and the ultimate suicide success, I just don't see how the word "considerate" fits in, exactly.]]
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'''Mathias''': [[SarcasmMode I-I don't wish to cloud your delusions in any way]], Mrs. G, but [[YourCheatingHeart what went on between you and my father…]] [[BreakTheCutie concerned me and your daughter quite significantly. significantly.]] You were hardly discreet, not at all cautious. And considerate? Hmm. Well, uh-- In view of the [[BungledSuicide 10 to 15 suicide failures of my mother…]] and the ultimate suicide success, I just don't see how the word "considerate" fits in, exactly.]]
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* {{Never My Fault}}: Mathilde never seems to own up to the fact [[spoiler: that Mathias and Chloe's unhappiness is the result of her affair with Max. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]- However, by her reaction to Mathias accusations, she might just be in self-denial.self-denial. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone And she collapses when Mathias tells her that his mother killed herself,]] revealing that Max lied to her, saying his wife died of an illness.]]
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* {{Cool Old Lady}}: Mathilde. [[spoiler: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] It's hard to think of her this way after she reveals [[ItsAllAboutMe her deluded attitude]] [[SelectiveObliviousness towards]] [[NoSympathy Mathias and Chloes' trauma and misery]].]]
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* {{Cool Old Lady}}: Mathilde. [[spoiler: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] Subverted.]] It's hard to think of her this way after she reveals [[ItsAllAboutMe her deluded attitude]] [[SelectiveObliviousness towards]] [[NoSympathy Mathias and Chloes' trauma and misery]].]]
* {{Everyone Has Standards}}: Mathias isn't exactly a paragon of virtue, but he definitely thinks that infidelity is a no-no.
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* {{Grade System Snark}}: In the end, as he begins the process of healing, Mathias gives his father a '''three''' on a scale of one-hundred.
* {{Its All About Me}}: [[spoiler: Mathilde seems to believe that her affair was a-okay because she stayed in her marriage and provided a home for her daughter. It's also implied that she stayed in her marriage because [[GoldDigger her husband had more money]].]]
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* {{Grade System Snark}}: In the end, as he begins the process of healing, Mathias acknowledges that his father did a good thing to send him to Paris. However, he still gives his father a '''three''' on a scale of one-hundred.
* {{Its All About Me}}: Mathias is definitely this in his quest to sell the apartment. However, the apartment '''IS''' his, and he honestly needs the money. [[spoiler: Mathilde seems to believe that her affair was a-okay because she stayed in her marriage and provided a home for her daughter.It's also implied She admits that she stayed in her marriage because [[GoldDigger her husband had was more money]].sucessful]], and it seemed to be the better plan.]]
* {{Its All About Me}}: Mathias is definitely this in his quest to sell the apartment. However, the apartment '''IS''' his, and he honestly needs the money. [[spoiler: Mathilde seems to believe that her affair was a-okay because she stayed in her marriage and provided a home for her daughter.
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-> ''If you do not love me I shall not be loved.''
-->- Creator/SamuelBeckett
''My Old Lady'' is a British/French/American ComedyDrama film directed by Israel Horovitz as his directorial debut. The film stars Creator/MaggieSmith, Creator/KevinKline, and Kristin Scott Thomas.
Mathias Gold — a [[TheCynic cynical]], [[UnluckyEverydude a down-on-his-luck]] New Yorker and former alcoholic — travels to Paris to sell a large, valuable apartment he inherited from his estranged father. However, he discovers an old woman, Mathilde, living in the apartment with her daughter Chloe. Mathias learns that the apartment is a "viager" — an ancient French system for buying and selling apartments — and that he will not actually get possession of the apartment until the day Mathilde dies… and that he owes her a pension of €2400 a month. Apparently, his father failed to mentioned this.
Flat broke and with no place to go, Mathilde allows him to stay in the apartment as long as he pays the rent. All the while, [[BelligerentSexualTension he butts heads with Chloe]], who makes it clear that he is not welcome in her home. But the situation take a sudden turn when Mathilde unveils a secret: [[spoiler: she and Mathias' father had been carrying on [[YourCheatingHeart an affair]] until the day his mother died]]. How will Mathias handle this revelation?
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! Tropes (spoiler warning!)
* [[spoiler: {{Ate His Gun}}]]: [[spoiler: How Mrs. Gold killed herself.]]
* {{Bittersweet Ending}}: Chloe and Mathias get together. [[spoiler: However, they still have their issues to deal with, and Mathilde [[KarmaHoudini never really pays for her actions]].]]
* {{Broken Bird}}: Both Mathias and Chloe, [[MissingDad thanks]] [[ParentalNeglect to]] [[YourCheatingHeart their]] [[DrivenToSuicide parents]]. No wonder they [[LonelyTogether fall for each]] [[BirdsOfAFeather other in the end.]]
* [[spoiler: {{Brother Sister Incest}}]]: [[spoiler: Thankfully Subverted]]
* {{Cool Old Lady}}: Mathilde. [[spoiler: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] It's hard to think of her this way after she reveals [[ItsAllAboutMe her deluded attitude]] [[SelectiveObliviousness towards]] [[NoSympathy Mathias and Chloes' trauma and misery]].]]
* {{Daddy Issues}} / {{Mommy Issues}}
* {{Dark And Troubled Past}}
* {{December December Romance}}: Mathias and Chloe
* [[spoiler: {{Driven To Suicide}}]]: Mathias' mother.
** {{Bungled Suicide}}: Mathias cut his wrists at the age of forty and ended up in the hospital. [[spoiler: His mother attempted suicide 10 to 15 times and ultimately succeeded.]]
* {{Deadpan Snarker}}: Mathias in spades.
* {{Drowning My Sorrows}}: Mathias (a former alcoholic) takes up drinking again [[spoiler: when he finds out that his father was having an affair with Mathilde]].
--> '''Mathias (to a passing couple)''': Bonsoir. The end of my wagonhood. Cheers.
* {{Dysfunctional Family}}: ''Oh dear.''
* {{Generation Xerox}}: Chloe is having an affair with a family man. [[spoiler: Her mother and Mathias' father carried on a lengthy affair.]]
* {{Grade System Snark}}: In the end, as he begins the process of healing, Mathias gives his father a '''three''' on a scale of one-hundred.
* {{Its All About Me}}: [[spoiler: Mathilde seems to believe that her affair was a-okay because she stayed in her marriage and provided a home for her daughter. It's also implied that she stayed in her marriage because [[GoldDigger her husband had more money]].]]
* {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}}: Mathias and Chloe. [[spoiler: And Mathilde too.]]
** {{Jerkass Woobie}}: When it's all said and done, Matthias and Chloe are both sad human beings [[spoiler: with a childhood scarred by [[ItsAllAboutMe their parents' selfish behavior]].]]
* {{Jerkass}}: '''MAX GOLD'''. [[spoiler: [[HeelRealization He stopped seeing Mathilde after his wife committed suicide]] and only spoke to her through letters.]]
* {{Kick The Dog}}: [[spoiler: Mrs. Gold committed suicide right in front of Mathias. [[BrokenBird The effects were lasting]].]]
* {{Kick The Son Of A Bitch}}: Mathias blackmails Chloe, threatening to reveal the affair to her lover's wife.
* {{Love Hurts}}
* [[spoiler: {{Mamas Baby Papas Maybe}}]]: [[spoiler: Mathias and Chloe suspect that they are brother and sister. Which causes… [[BrotherSisterIncest problems]]. Mathilde denies it at first… but admits that she doesn't know. In the end, Mathias gets a DNA test, proving that they are in fact "NOT family", putting an end to the drama.]]
* {{Never My Fault}}: Mathilde never seems to own up to the fact [[spoiler: that Mathias and Chloe's unhappiness is the result of her affair with Max. However, by her reaction to Mathias accusations, she might just be in self-denial.]]
* {{Parental Neglect}}: Max obliviously didn't win "Dad Of the Year" Award. [[spoiler: Chloe claims that her father had no love for her because[[MamasBabyPapasMaybe he thought she wasn't his daughter]].]]
* {{Paris}}
* {{The Reason You Suck Speech}}: Mathias gives Mathilde a few of these after [[spoiler: she admits that she was having an affair with his father]]. He also gives one to Chloe when he confronts her about her affair with Phillipe. She later [[HeelRealization takes this to heart]] and ends the affair.
--> '''Matthias''': So, uh, tell me. Who's the guy in the restaurant?\\
'''Chloe''': [[FlatWhat What?]]\\
'''Mattias''': The guy in the restaurant. He looked familiar. I think I saw him duck into a hotel with you the other day. But today he didn't seem quite so happy to see you, [[YourCheatingHeart what with the wife and all, the kids.]]\\
'''Chloe''': How dare you!\\
'''Mathias''': [[WhatTheHellHero Oh, I dare!]] [[HypocrisyNod You give me all that holier-than-thou crap about family and tradition, and you're doing the hoopie with somebody's husband, some kid's dad?]] And I'm a heartless bastard because I want to sell an apartment?\\
'''Chloe''': This is not your affair.\\
'''Mathias''': Oh. [[DeadpanSnarker Good choice of words]].
--> [[spoiler: '''Mathilde''': [[ItsAllAboutMe What went on between your father and me concerned nobody but us]]. [[RuleofThree We were discreet. We were cautious.We were considerate.]]\\
'''Mathias''': [[SarcasmMode I-I don't wish to cloud your delusions in any way]], Mrs. G, but [[YourCheatingHeart what went on between you and my father…]] concerned me and your daughter quite significantly. You were hardly discreet, not at all cautious. And considerate? Hmm. Well, uh-- In view of the [[BungledSuicide 10 to 15 suicide failures of my mother…]] and the ultimate suicide success, I just don't see how the word "considerate" fits in, exactly.]]
* {{Scenery Porn}}: Inevitable. This '''IS''' {{Paris}}.
* {{Selective Obliviousness}}: Mathilde doesn't seem to realize [[spoiler: that her affair made Chloe's childhood miserable or that her lover was a [[MissingDad lousy father]] and a jerkass husband.]]
* {{There Are No Therapists}}: Averted. It just didn't work.
* {{Tsundere}}: Chloe is a type A to Mathias
* {{Well Done Son Guy}}: Mathias towards his father…
* {{Wham Line}}: [[spoiler: ''"Your father and I were lovers...since I was 29."'']] From here on, [[WhamEpisode the film shifts gears, and the drama kicks in.]]
* {{What The Hell Hero}}: Mathias calls Chloe out on her affair with Phillipe, a married man with two children. [[spoiler: Later, he mercilessly tears into Mathilde when he finds out about her affair with his father.]]
* {{Your Cheating Heart}}: Discussed - The major theme of the film is the long-reaching effects of adultery, especially when it comes to the most innocent party of the situation… ''the children''.
-> ''If you do not love me I shall not be loved.''
-->- Creator/SamuelBeckett
''My Old Lady'' is a British/French/American ComedyDrama film directed by Israel Horovitz as his directorial debut. The film stars Creator/MaggieSmith, Creator/KevinKline, and Kristin Scott Thomas.
Mathias Gold — a [[TheCynic cynical]], [[UnluckyEverydude a down-on-his-luck]] New Yorker and former alcoholic — travels to Paris to sell a large, valuable apartment he inherited from his estranged father. However, he discovers an old woman, Mathilde, living in the apartment with her daughter Chloe. Mathias learns that the apartment is a "viager" — an ancient French system for buying and selling apartments — and that he will not actually get possession of the apartment until the day Mathilde dies… and that he owes her a pension of €2400 a month. Apparently, his father failed to mentioned this.
Flat broke and with no place to go, Mathilde allows him to stay in the apartment as long as he pays the rent. All the while, [[BelligerentSexualTension he butts heads with Chloe]], who makes it clear that he is not welcome in her home. But the situation take a sudden turn when Mathilde unveils a secret: [[spoiler: she and Mathias' father had been carrying on [[YourCheatingHeart an affair]] until the day his mother died]]. How will Mathias handle this revelation?
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! Tropes (spoiler warning!)
* [[spoiler: {{Ate His Gun}}]]: [[spoiler: How Mrs. Gold killed herself.]]
* {{Bittersweet Ending}}: Chloe and Mathias get together. [[spoiler: However, they still have their issues to deal with, and Mathilde [[KarmaHoudini never really pays for her actions]].]]
* {{Broken Bird}}: Both Mathias and Chloe, [[MissingDad thanks]] [[ParentalNeglect to]] [[YourCheatingHeart their]] [[DrivenToSuicide parents]]. No wonder they [[LonelyTogether fall for each]] [[BirdsOfAFeather other in the end.]]
* [[spoiler: {{Brother Sister Incest}}]]: [[spoiler: Thankfully Subverted]]
* {{Cool Old Lady}}: Mathilde. [[spoiler: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] It's hard to think of her this way after she reveals [[ItsAllAboutMe her deluded attitude]] [[SelectiveObliviousness towards]] [[NoSympathy Mathias and Chloes' trauma and misery]].]]
* {{Daddy Issues}} / {{Mommy Issues}}
* {{Dark And Troubled Past}}
* {{December December Romance}}: Mathias and Chloe
* [[spoiler: {{Driven To Suicide}}]]: Mathias' mother.
** {{Bungled Suicide}}: Mathias cut his wrists at the age of forty and ended up in the hospital. [[spoiler: His mother attempted suicide 10 to 15 times and ultimately succeeded.]]
* {{Deadpan Snarker}}: Mathias in spades.
* {{Drowning My Sorrows}}: Mathias (a former alcoholic) takes up drinking again [[spoiler: when he finds out that his father was having an affair with Mathilde]].
--> '''Mathias (to a passing couple)''': Bonsoir. The end of my wagonhood. Cheers.
* {{Dysfunctional Family}}: ''Oh dear.''
* {{Generation Xerox}}: Chloe is having an affair with a family man. [[spoiler: Her mother and Mathias' father carried on a lengthy affair.]]
* {{Grade System Snark}}: In the end, as he begins the process of healing, Mathias gives his father a '''three''' on a scale of one-hundred.
* {{Its All About Me}}: [[spoiler: Mathilde seems to believe that her affair was a-okay because she stayed in her marriage and provided a home for her daughter. It's also implied that she stayed in her marriage because [[GoldDigger her husband had more money]].]]
* {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}}: Mathias and Chloe. [[spoiler: And Mathilde too.]]
** {{Jerkass Woobie}}: When it's all said and done, Matthias and Chloe are both sad human beings [[spoiler: with a childhood scarred by [[ItsAllAboutMe their parents' selfish behavior]].]]
* {{Jerkass}}: '''MAX GOLD'''. [[spoiler: [[HeelRealization He stopped seeing Mathilde after his wife committed suicide]] and only spoke to her through letters.]]
* {{Kick The Dog}}: [[spoiler: Mrs. Gold committed suicide right in front of Mathias. [[BrokenBird The effects were lasting]].]]
* {{Kick The Son Of A Bitch}}: Mathias blackmails Chloe, threatening to reveal the affair to her lover's wife.
* {{Love Hurts}}
* [[spoiler: {{Mamas Baby Papas Maybe}}]]: [[spoiler: Mathias and Chloe suspect that they are brother and sister. Which causes… [[BrotherSisterIncest problems]]. Mathilde denies it at first… but admits that she doesn't know. In the end, Mathias gets a DNA test, proving that they are in fact "NOT family", putting an end to the drama.]]
* {{Never My Fault}}: Mathilde never seems to own up to the fact [[spoiler: that Mathias and Chloe's unhappiness is the result of her affair with Max. However, by her reaction to Mathias accusations, she might just be in self-denial.]]
* {{Parental Neglect}}: Max obliviously didn't win "Dad Of the Year" Award. [[spoiler: Chloe claims that her father had no love for her because[[MamasBabyPapasMaybe he thought she wasn't his daughter]].]]
* {{Paris}}
* {{The Reason You Suck Speech}}: Mathias gives Mathilde a few of these after [[spoiler: she admits that she was having an affair with his father]]. He also gives one to Chloe when he confronts her about her affair with Phillipe. She later [[HeelRealization takes this to heart]] and ends the affair.
--> '''Matthias''': So, uh, tell me. Who's the guy in the restaurant?\\
'''Chloe''': [[FlatWhat What?]]\\
'''Mattias''': The guy in the restaurant. He looked familiar. I think I saw him duck into a hotel with you the other day. But today he didn't seem quite so happy to see you, [[YourCheatingHeart what with the wife and all, the kids.]]\\
'''Chloe''': How dare you!\\
'''Mathias''': [[WhatTheHellHero Oh, I dare!]] [[HypocrisyNod You give me all that holier-than-thou crap about family and tradition, and you're doing the hoopie with somebody's husband, some kid's dad?]] And I'm a heartless bastard because I want to sell an apartment?\\
'''Chloe''': This is not your affair.\\
'''Mathias''': Oh. [[DeadpanSnarker Good choice of words]].
--> [[spoiler: '''Mathilde''': [[ItsAllAboutMe What went on between your father and me concerned nobody but us]]. [[RuleofThree We were discreet. We were cautious.We were considerate.]]\\
'''Mathias''': [[SarcasmMode I-I don't wish to cloud your delusions in any way]], Mrs. G, but [[YourCheatingHeart what went on between you and my father…]] concerned me and your daughter quite significantly. You were hardly discreet, not at all cautious. And considerate? Hmm. Well, uh-- In view of the [[BungledSuicide 10 to 15 suicide failures of my mother…]] and the ultimate suicide success, I just don't see how the word "considerate" fits in, exactly.]]
* {{Scenery Porn}}: Inevitable. This '''IS''' {{Paris}}.
* {{Selective Obliviousness}}: Mathilde doesn't seem to realize [[spoiler: that her affair made Chloe's childhood miserable or that her lover was a [[MissingDad lousy father]] and a jerkass husband.]]
* {{There Are No Therapists}}: Averted. It just didn't work.
* {{Tsundere}}: Chloe is a type A to Mathias
* {{Well Done Son Guy}}: Mathias towards his father…
* {{Wham Line}}: [[spoiler: ''"Your father and I were lovers...since I was 29."'']] From here on, [[WhamEpisode the film shifts gears, and the drama kicks in.]]
* {{What The Hell Hero}}: Mathias calls Chloe out on her affair with Phillipe, a married man with two children. [[spoiler: Later, he mercilessly tears into Mathilde when he finds out about her affair with his father.]]
* {{Your Cheating Heart}}: Discussed - The major theme of the film is the long-reaching effects of adultery, especially when it comes to the most innocent party of the situation… ''the children''.