WiseMan23753 on Jan 11th 2019 at 6:36:47 AM
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WiseMan23753 on Jan 16th 2019 at 4:59:09 AM
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Heroes don't last forever. They eventually fall or end up showing charactersitics that make people their faith. They might have Took a Level in Jerkass or fell much deeper into the realms of a Fallen Hero. But some people still have faith in such heroes, even when they are the enemy.
Someone who knew that person, or at least based on one's knowledge, would say how he or she used to be a much better person. That person would usually go on like this whenever the Fallen Hero has hit rock bottom and is sucking the ground in defeat. Unlike "The Reason You Suck" Speech, which is used to belittle a target, this type of phrase reminds them of how they were respectable in the past and what accomplishments they made in that period. He or she used to be a Knight in Shining Armor who fought for ideals, held moral values at heart, used to care about humanity, or had some sort of dignity that made great characteristics as a person. It doesn't matter what Start of Darkness they had when they should not have surrendered to it in the first place.
The usual result of this trope is the target having a Heel Realization and have the shock that would normally terrify him or her come all at once. Shortly after recovering from this Heroic BSoD would one expect the Broken Pedestal to come back from despair, pulling a HeelĖFace Turn, and regaining the respect he or she once had.
- Fullmetal Alchemist
- Happens to Greed in the manga and second anime. When he attacks Bido, his friend from his first life, he tells his former superior how they used to be family. Greed casts aside the memories and kills the poor creature without hesitation. Then, Ling goes in a rage within his body and tells him the exact same thing. What drives the pint is how he just surrendered his right to be called 'Greed' by turning away his family and friends. My God, What Have I Done? indeed...
- Ratchet & Clank
- Qwark already had his problems form the start of the series, from siding with the first Big Bad to becoming the second while orchestrating Engineered Heroics. Then comes Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal, when his Arch-Enemy, Dr. Nefarious begins to take over the galaxy again. In the middle of the war, he ends up fleeing to his hideout after faking his death. When the main duo confront him, Clank tells him how he was once a respectable hero before his decedance, causing him to come back in the finale and defeat Dr. Nefarious once again.
- Ratchet: Deadlocked had Ace Hardlight, a former hero now a ruthless Exterminator. After Ratchet defeats him in the arena, he reminds Ace how he was once a hero, resulting in him giving a Jacob Marley Warning and pulling a HeelĖFace Turn in the spinoffs.
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