Line #105 YMMV/TrueDetective


1	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
2	** Season 1:
3	*** The opening music is "Far From Any Road" by Music/TheHandsomeFamily.
4	*** The closing music for the season opener. Rust says, "Start asking the right fucking questions," and takes an enigmatic drag as the darkly melodic first riffs of "Young Man Dead" by Music/TheBlackAngels swell.
5	*** The song for the closing credits of the season one finale, "The Angry River," by The Hat ft. Father John Misty & S.I. Istwa.
6	** Season 2:
7	*** The season's opening credits song "Nevermind" by Music/LeonardCohen is catchy, and the lyrics (which change at the start of each episode) perfectly encompass the feeling of the season.
8	*** Lera Lynn's original songs, especially "The Only Thing Worth Fighting For" and "This is My Least Favorite Life", have received considerable acclaim.
9	*** Music/TheBlackAngels pop up again at the end of "Church in Ruins." As the detectives escape [[spoiler:Tony Chessani's sex party in Monterery]] they dodge their pursuers, get on an open road, and the camera pans up to a full moon just as "Black Grease" kicks in.
10	** In Season 3, we get Cassandra Wilson's cover of "Death Letter" by Son House as the opening credits music. It's incredibly haunting, and really emphasizes the Arkansas environment the main characters live in.
11	** Season 4
12	*** The opening credits feature Music/BillieEilish's "Bury a Friend". The dark, brooding production of the song fits the Night Country theme very well. According to showrunner Creator/IssaLopez, [[https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/billie-eilish-bury-a-friend-true-detective-season-4-1234946851/ the song was an inspiration for the writing of the season]].
13	*** The ending theme "Your Storyline's Never Told" by Vince Pope. The tone is haunting and sets the scenery of Alaska.
14	* BestKnownForTheFanservice: For some viewers, the gratuitous nudity in the first two seasons (especially Creator/AlexandraDaddario's in the first) is the main selling point. A large segment of the audience noticed this series after Daddario's nude scene, to the extent that there was even a whole since-banned subreddit created revolving solely around uploads of [=GIFs=] and images from that scene. Pizzolatto seemed to notice this, as Season 3 is devoid of any nudity whatsoever, and the only two sex scenes that occur happen offscreen.
15	* BrokenBase:
16	** The Season 1 finale, to a point. The two most contentious elements seem to be a) whether the series leaves too many questions unanswered, and b) whether its surprisingly happy final scenes jibe with the bleak tone of the rest of the show. Opinions vary greatly regarding each point. Pizzolatto was entirely upfront about there being absolutely no surprises in the whodunnit aspect, and said, straight up, that the fans making up crazy theories were going to be disappointed that none of their predicted endings would come to pass.
17	** Another regarding the finale is the [[spoiler: Green Ears]] clue. It's either a clever way to lead Marty and Rust to [[spoiler: Errol]] or it's really, really stupid and bad writing.
18	** The above two cases are examples of how the fanbase is split between the fans who like this show for the character drama, and those who like it for the CosmicHorror vibes. The latter group more often than not ends up disappointed that the show generally falls on the mundane side of MaybeMagicMaybeMundane, and many of the criticisms regarding the conclusion stem from that disappointment.
19	** The casting of Colin Farrell and Creator/VinceVaughn for the second season has received major backlash for the most part. After the show premiered, opinions about Farrell's performance have been quite positive, though Vaughn's reception was mixed.
20	** The entirety of Season 2 is this, with one set of fans claiming the second season is terrible, another set saying that it's good but unfairly compared to the superior first season, and another set believing this season is better than the first.
21	** Season 2 concluding on a DownerEnding. A fitting end to a noir mystery/corruption story, or a series of DiabolusExMachina events, {{Contrived Coincidence}}s and {{Ass Pull}}s to ensure the protagonists never get their happy ending?
22	* CaptainObviousReveal: At the end of season 2, it's revealed that Ray Velcoro's son is [[spoiler:Velcoro's biological offspring rather than the rapist's]]. But this should have been obvious once it's revealed that [[spoiler:the real rapist is a dark-skinned Latino or Native American who couldn't be the father of a red-headed white kid]].
23	* CompleteMonster: Season 1: [[SinisterMinister Reverend Billy Lee Tuttle]], son of the founder of the Tuttle {{Cult}} of the Yellow King, inherited a key position from his grandfather, and leads the Cult, using the Tuttle Schools to find victims. Countless [[WouldHurtAChild children]] are sexually abused, tortured, and murdered with the cult conducting its horrific rituals on countless children and young women in videos and photos Tuttle himself keeps as trophies.
24	* CrossesTheLineTwice:
25	** Rust's recommendation to the Marshland Medea that, should she end up in prison, the smart thing would be to commit suicide.
26	** Ray's handling of his son's bully Aspen, from the lame insult "Ass-pen", to beating his father in front of him and the motivational little speech: "You ever bully or hurt anybody again, I'll come back and buttfuck your father with your mom's headless corpse on this goddamn lawn."
27	* DracoInLeatherPants: Despite being a [[spoiler: racist, Yellow King worshipping child-rapist]], Reggie Ledoux has a growing fanbase even though he appeared only twice during the whole first season.
28	* EndingFatigue: The Season 2 finale was 90 minutes long instead of the regular 60. Some viewers felt the extra half hour made the episode drag on longer than it should have.
29	* EnsembleDarkhorse: Nails, Frank's stoic and loyal bodyguard from the second season, has gotten a lot of love from fans.
30	* EpilepticTrees: LOTS. Fan theories ranged far and wide, probably prompting Pizzolatto's assertion that there wouldn't be any big twists in the end of the show.
31	* FanNickname: "Bolo Ray" for Velcoro, "Frank the Tank" for Semyon.
32	* FranchiseOriginalSin: "Night Country" has received criticisms for things that have actually been a staple of the series overall.
33	** By far, the biggest complaint of "Night Country" is the show's references to the events of Season 1, with Rust Cohle's father Travis appearing as a character, and the return of the "crooked spiral" motif. Yet, Season 3 also previously referenced the events of Season 1, which didn't cause nearly as much upset at the time (though they handle these connections very differently).
34	** "Night Country"'s usage of supernatural elements has also proved to be a controversial decision amongst fans, even though the idea of supernatural happenings had been teased in both Seasons 1 and 3. However, Season 4 makes the concept far more explicit than the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane method that the previous series' seasons had, which made the idea far more divisive.
35	* GeniusBonus:
36	** Season 1:
37	*** When Hart and Cohle are looking at possibly-related cases, they find a report of a young girl who reported being chased by a "green-eared spaghetti monster". For anyone familiar with the satirical [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster Flying Spaghetti Monster]] concept, it seems appropriate given the religious themes in the series.
38	*** There are several subtle references to the short story collection ''Literature/TheKingInYellow''. These include cinematographic choices, and easy-to-miss drawings of Carcosa's black stars.
39	*** The "Marshland Medea" is a reference to Medea of the Jason myth, who killed her children to get vengeance on Jason. The show even shoots down an opportunity to explain the reference.
40	*** Cohle references "Munchhausen By Proxy" to the Marshland Medea, a real syndrome where caregivers neglect or harm their wards, which accurately describes the Marshland Medea's behavior.
41	** Season 2:
42	*** Frank's avocado trees aren't fruiting. Avocado is derived from a word for testicle, a clever joke about his infertility.
43	*** The season 2 episode that introduces Woodrugh's former comrade from Black Mountain features a song by the rock group Black Mountain.
44	*** In the finale, [[spoiler: Mayor Chessani is murdered by his son to usurp his power. A quick shot reveals he was drinking Kraken brand rum. The Kraken was a mythological sea creature who's presence meant plentiful fish but could pull ships to the bottom of the ocean if you risked catching them. Chessani was complacent among men much more dangerous than he realized and was killed by drowning in his own pool.]]
45	* GrowingTheBeard: Episodes 4 and 5 of season 2 are considered to be far stronger than the first three, with greater plot development and better showcases for the actors' talents.
46	* HarsherInHindsight:
47	** The plot about a cabal of wealthy politicians using their power to abuse children and young girls especially hits differently in the aftermath of the revelations about Jeffrey Epstein's involvement in underage sex trafficking, as well his connections to numerous influential rich people across the country. The fact that Epstein had a vaguely-occult temple built on his private island doesn't help matters.
48	** The suspicious circumstances surrounding his death (officially ruled as a suicide) are ominously reminiscent of the prisoner Rust talks to who commits suicide (but was more likely.murdered by a guard) to keep the cult's activities secret.
49	* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct:
50	** Any remaining Creator/MatthewMcConaughey doubters will likely be won over by his performance.
51	** Kitsch's performance in episode 3 and 4 of Season 2 redeems his not-so-convincing acting in previous episodes.
52	** Vaughn was complimented for his acting in episode 5, after somewhat lukewarm reactions to his earlier episodes.
53	** Before Season 3, Stephen Dorff was probably best remembered as the villain of the first ''Film/{{Blade}}'' film and an [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQelKE-aBNg infamous e-cig]] advertisement. As Roland, he holds his own against an Oscar-winning actor in Mahershala Ali, and gives an affecting performance even with heavy old-age makeup to contend with.
54	* HilariousInHindsight:
55	** Just try not to think of the infamous FauxlosophicNarration in Matthew [=McConaughey's=] Lincoln ads whenever Cohle goes into one of his monologues, especially in the car.
56	** The scar that Paul Woodrugh has in his left arm is identical to the grayscale mark of a certain character from [[Series/GameOfThrones another concurrent HBO series]]; same form, same arm and same position. [[http://www.vox.com/2015/6/21/8822159/true-detective-premiere-recap-season-2 Reviewers duly noted it]]
57	** One of Lacey Lindel's lawyers is played by the same actor played Pied Piper's attorney in Series/SiliconValley. Given the latter's [[DirtyOldMan proclivities]] it's hard for fans of both shows to watch his scenes with a straight face.
58	** Wayne Hays admitting to Amelia that his knowledge of literature is limited to comic books such as the Silver Surfer is pretty damn funny after it was announced that not only would Creator/MahershalaAli would starring as the title character in an upcoming Blade film for the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'', but that this show's creator Nic Pizzolatto would be writing the story for it. Even better in that Stephen Dorff, Ali's co-star in this series, had portrayed the BigBad Deacon Frost in the 1998 Blade movie!
59	** Longtime Harrelson and [=McConaughey=] fans may be amused at the contrast in tone between this show and their first time costarring in ''Film/{{Edtv}}''.
60	* HoYay:
61	** Season 1's Cohle and Hart are near-memetic levels of "basically married," starting as a variant of the odd couple partnership and gradually evolving to a dream team, with the highs and lows of their lonely personal lives mirroring each other. In the final episode, when Hart presents a gift box to Cohle, both dryly quip about the possibility of it being an engagement ring.
62	** In Season 2, a major aspect of Woodrugh's beta story line is his status as an ArmoredClosetGay: though he has a girlfriend, he has to take Viagra to get physically intimate with her, a problem he doesn't suffer from when he runs in to an old army buddy...
63	** In Season 3, Tom and Roland have a friendship that could definitely be interpreted this way, especially considering that Tom is [[spoiler: proven to be repressing his homosexuality.]] Roland is protective of Tom and cares about him to the point of Hayes using that friendship against him to get his own way.
64	%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample ** The scene where Cohle approaches Ginger with the coke-for-meth deal. [[https://youtu.be/N1eBbD6e0Mk Just watch their body language.]]
65	* JerkassWoobie: Unlike Tom, Lucy Purcell doesn't have a heart of gold and she is quick to lash out at everybody, including her own dead or missing kids. However, she does have the FreudianExcuse of [[spoiler:Tom's sexuality]], and the fact that divorce isn't an option for them, and she seems truly miserable in all of her appearances.
66	* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Some fans were terribly disappointed that season one didn't have a GenreShift into CosmicHorror following the reference to ''Literature/TheKingInYellow,'' seemingly unaware that the first King in Yellow story, The Repairer of Reputations, had no overt supernatural elements outside the word of an UnreliableNarrator that makes Cohle look stable.
67	* LesYay: Season 2 ends with [[spoiler:Ani and Jordan, the only two surviving leads]] living together in Venezuela and apparently raising a child together. Though there's nothing explicitly stated, it's easy to take the fond looks the two exchange and a few hints about [[spoiler:Ani's]] possible bisexual tendencies in earlier episodes and come out thinking they might be more than just roommates.
68	* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Season 2 teases that [[spoiler:Colin Farrell]], one of the top-rated stars of the season, is killed in the second episode. That doesn't happen.
69	%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * MemeticBadass: Rustin Cohle in season 1.
70	%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample ** Paul "god warrior" Woodrugh in season 2.
71	* MemeticMutation:
72	** Cohle's philosophical nihilistic ramblings which fans like to put on Valentine's day cards. Also Reggie Ledoux himself arguably and [[spoiler: green ears as of the finale.]]
73	** [[https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/617960cfa3101bf2ed6ca9501f63b4c8.jpg The frame of Rust taking a drag on a cigarette with a troubled look in his eyes]] has become a popular reaction image in the years since the first season was aired.
74	** Semyon's monologues from season 2 seem to be headed for this trope.
75	** [[http://www.vulture.com/2014/02/the-best-of-truedetectiveseason2-meme.html #TrueDetectiveSeason2]]
76	** Dr Pitlor's similarity to Creator/BenedictCumberbatch has definitely been noticed by fandom.
77	** 4chan has become fond of "Vinceposting", where they emulate and mock Frank Semyon's pseudo-philosophy, lectures, propensity for nostalgia, and bizarre metaphors. It's [[https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/comments/3e9k70/season_2_make_up_your_most_ridiculous_vince/ also making a presence in reddit.]]
78	** "Caspere knew this" when describing a fact or theory for season 2. Funny, since Frank never actually says this.
79	** Referring to Paul as a "god warrior," after his actions in episode 4. It got even bigger after his [[spoiler:DyingMomentOfAwesome in episode 7.]]
80	* MisaimedFandom:
81	** There are some fans of the show that think Rust is a cool guy because of his nihilistic views and how he doesn't concern himself with how other people feel about him or what he says. However, the latter aspect means that nobody can stand to be around him, with Marty telling him he needs to stop with the nihilistic rants. And Rust's nihilism leaves him genuinely deeply depressed and stops him from achieving any real happiness at all. It's only after a NearDeathExperience that causes him to reconsider his world view that he receives any closure and begins to repair his life.
82	** From Season 2: Some people think Ray Velcoro, a violent drunk who calls his bullied and vulnerable son a "fat pussy", is some sort of hypermasculine ideal to aspire towards, because he brutally beats the father of his son's bully with brass knuckles, grabs the bully and threatens to rape his father. The show depicts his actions as disproportionately violent and he is even called out by other characters for his behaviour, but read the [=YouTube=] comments on any clip of him and it's actually a little disturbing how many men earnestly wish to emulate his behaviour.
83	** Also from Season 2, quite a few female viewers believe that Ani is right to be [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale angry about her sexual harassment complaint]], and [[WrongGenreSavvy agree with her that a man would not be punished in the same scenario]]. This is despite the story making it clear that Ani was in the wrong for sleeping with a subordinate, purposely emasculating him as a way to vent her trauma, and Ani's superiors shutting down this argument by pointing out that a man would face the same punishment if a complaint was filed. Sure enough, we see in the actual sexual harassment meeting that there are ''a lot'' of men there.
84	* {{Narm}}:
85	** Taylor Kitcsh's [[http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5468/95/original/620.jpg "Look mom, I'm ACTING!" face]] during Paul's suicidal motorcycle ride, not helped by his cheeks flapping in the wind.
86	** Paul Woodrugh's left arm scar is accidentally distracting and hilarious, given its striking similarity to another one from ''Series/GameOfThrones.''
87	%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample ** Season 1 was lucky enough to get two lead actors who could make Nic Pizzolatto's particular dialogue style sound natural. Season 2 is a rather more mixed bag, with Vince Vaughn faring the worst.
88	** Paul's fiance appearing to [[spoiler:psychically sense his death, like Yoda]]. Maybe the first season could have gotten away with it, but the second with its complete lack of hints to the supernatural has no chance.
89	** Paul excitedly exclaiming that the contracts the group just liberated have the signatures of everyone involved. Kitcsh's delivery makes it sound more like signatures were the last thing he was expecting to see on a bunch of contracts. Appropriately, Velcoro's expression when he glances at Paul in the rear view mirror can be interpreted as him thinking his partner has lost his mind.
90	* NarmCharm:
91	** Some of Cohle's dialogue is admittedly over the top, but [=McConaughey's=] delivery is so compelling that you buy him as a verbose misanthrope. He brings enough depth to the role that Rust's existential despair never seems melodramatic. It's natural for him to speak with a poetic flair because he really is ''that'' tortured, and not in the self-indulgent way that a lot of "angsty antihero" characters tend to be. When Rust talks about human consciousness being a mistake, you can feel he means what he says. It helps that Hart regularly lampshades Rust's tangents, acting as a counterweight to the cloud that hangs around Rust. Creator Nic Pizzolatto [[http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/dark-character-draws-mcconaughey-to-hbos-noir-miniseries-1201105443/ has stated]] that many of the lines would sound terrible in the hands of a lesser actor.
92	** [[spoiler: Errol's]] old-timey London accent comes completely out of nowhere in a setting where almost everyone speaks with a DeepSouth drawl, and sounds silly. It also perfectly compliments the strange, unnerving atmosphere of the scene. When combined with [[spoiler: his dilapidated, clutter-filled house]] and [[spoiler: half-sister's]] ramblings in the background, it will make the viewer feel more uncomfortable as the scene progresses.
93	** The locker room scene from episode 2 is hilariously over the top in its macho-ness. Cohle accuses Hart of having "pussy" on him, leading Hart to [[HoYay pin Cohle aggressively against the lockers]] and force him to say it isn't his wife's "particular scent". And yes, this is played absolutely straight.
94	* NeverLiveItDown: Pizzolatto has only written ''one'' character prone to long, flowery monologues regarding his nihilistic philosophy. You would be forgiven for thinking that is the only thing he knows how to write, if word of mouth was all you had to go by.
95	* OneSceneWonder:
96	** Reggie Ledoux appears in two scenes, a WhamShot at the end of Episode 3 and [[spoiler:his arrest and murder in Episode 5]], but he makes a definite impact.
97	** And Jay O. Sanders as Reverend Tuttle in Episode 6.
98	** Music/RickSpringfield as the spacey, lecherous psychiatrist in Season 2.
99	** [[spoiler:Creator/MichaelRooker]] as Edward Hoyt in Episode 8 of Season 3.
100	* ParanoiaFuel. Just how big is the Yellow King Cult? With the introduction of Ms. Dolores in Episode 8, and Cohle theorizing that they killed Tuttle, it’s implied that the cult is even bigger than Rust realized, so big that it made one of their members Governor. For all we know, there were several seemingly innocuous characters throughout the season that are actually violent cultists trying to cover up their crimes. [[RiddleForTheAges But which ones?]]
101	* RewatchBonus:
102	** If you know what to look for, it's easier to see the facial scars on Errol when he's first introduced and see him mowing in a spiral.
103	** It's easier to spot the Arc Symbols in general on a second watch.
104	* RetroactiveRecognition:
105	** Betty Childress (Ann Dowd) might seem familiar to fans of a later [[Series/TheLeftovers HBO drama]].
106	** Audrey Hart is played by Creator/ErinMoriarty, who would later star in ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' and as Starlight in ''Series/TheBoys2019''.
107	* ShippingBedDeath: Invoked in a particularly brutal fashion in episode 6 of Season One. [[spoiler:The low-key UnresolvedSexualTension between Maggie and Rust finally comes to a head... in a single instance of depressing sex that destroys what's left of not only their own burgeoning friendship but their respective relationships with Marty. Rust appears to be off the wagon when it happens and both feel nothing but regret when it's over.]]
108	%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * {{Squick}}: The crime scene.
109	* StarTrekMovieCurse: The even-numbered seasons tend to receive the brunt of the criticism when it comes to this show. Season 1 is near-universally seen as a perfect season of TV, and Season 3, while generally considered a bit weaker than 1, still received strong praise with Mahershala Ali's performance being particularly acclaimed. Meanwhile, 2 and 4 received a far more tepid reaction from the fans and on the internet.
110	* StoicWoobie: Cohle lost his daughter, and the grief tore apart his marriage. He shows few signs of it, but the loss is likely responsible for his pessimistic view of the world.
111	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Perfectly good actress, rather; some viewers were a bit perplexed that they got the fairly well-known and Emmy-nominated Creator/ElizabethReaser for a bit part in one episode. It was originally going to be a larger part, but got reduced.
112	* ToughActToFollow: The show's first season was nigh-universally acclaimed and the two lead performances beloved. Unfortunately, its being set up as an anthology series in which each season is completely unconnected means that first season is also the worst enemy it could have, with every review of Season 2 noting that it might very well have been seen as a great story in its own right if not for the specters of Hart and Cohle standing behind it, making everything seem lesser in comparison.
113	* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Despite being a JerkassWoobie, a lot of sympathy is lost for Lucy Purcell when flashbacks reveal that [[spoiler:she knowingly sold her daughter to an insane heiress and, although she was devastated upon learning that Will (her own son) had accidentally died in the "exchange", she kept quiet about it in exchange for more money.]] Not only that but she treats her husband Tom like trash by sleeping around.
114	* TheWoobie: Tom from season 3 has it really bad. He is a legitimately kind man who loves his kids and seems to feel genuinely bad when he drunkenly calls Hayes a racial slur. Stuck in a loveless relationship with his wife who sleeps around and [[spoiler:a repressed homosexual]], his kids get kidnapped and murdered (his son is definitely murdered at least), his life falls to pieces. Though Roland helps him get back on his feet (to a degree) between '80 and '90, things only get worse when [[spoiler:a phone call comes in to the police from his daughter that apparently accuses him of being the kidnapper/murderer. Roland, his only real friend at this point, accuses him of the crime destroying his trust in Roland, and when he gets set free 24 hours later, he is able to figure out who the responsible party was only to get murdered. To top it all off, the killer sets his body up to make it look like a suicide with a note confessing to the crime.]] Life was not kind to Tom at all.

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