Line #27 YMMV/LaLaLand


1	* AlternateAesopInterpretation: Mia's subplot with her play, where the thing supposedly tanks due to low ticket sales and a couple of audience members laughing at it, [[spoiler: but a casting director seeing it and loving it enough to bring her in for an audition]]. A lesson here could be that one doesn't need their work to be universally loved or seen by thousands of people - only by the one right person. Indeed, many people who work in casting stress that going to the theatre to see these shows are part of their job, as they're always on the look out for new talent.
2	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
3	** Are the casting people at the TV show callback for Mia just being {{Jerkass}}es, or are they just going for EnforcedMethodActing? As the part Mia is auditioning for seems to be very commanding, it could be either one.
4	** More like Alternate Writing Interpretation, but is Keith supposed to be a villain? Moreover, is he a case of UnintentionallySympathetic StrawmanHasAPoint, or were the writers going for BothSidesHaveAPoint and for the story to have NoAntagonist?
5	* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Creator/DamienChazelle had a hard time getting the movie into production for years because at that time, studios believed it might not sell well because it's an original contemporary musical, the songs are unfamiliar and jazz musical is an extinct genre. Though he was able to find a studio to help him, [[ExecutiveMeddling they proposed several changes]] such as the male lead being a rock musician instead of a jazz pianist. Chazelle had none of that and put the project on hold until the success of his other movie, ''Film/{{Whiplash}}'', which got Creator/SummitEntertainment interested enough in ''La La Land'' that they finally got it in production. The movie was a critical success that earned numerous awards and did very well commercially.
6	* AwardSnub: While "City of Stars" was always pegged to not only get nominated for Song but also win too, some fans preferred the other of the two eligible songs—"Start A Fire"—as more deserving of a slot in the category than "Audition (The Fools Who Dream)" was.
7	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: A modern day love letter to jazz musicals of the past? It was bound to get [[AwesomeMusic/LaLaLand its own page]].
8	* BaseBreakingCharacter: Sebastian big time. A lot of people love him and his passion about music, especially with regards to an often overlooked genre among the mainstream. Other people see him as too obnoxious and pretentious - especially his refusal to move with the times. Fans can't decide whether the latter is the IntendedAudienceReaction or not. There's also the debate surrounding Ryan Gosling - while his acting and dancing are considered good, his singing is contentious.
9	* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The opening number, "Another Day of Sun", has absolutely no bearing on the plot, its style doesn't quite fit the other movies' musical numbers (with some being diegetic, some being fantasy sequences and the rest almost being actual conversations or monologues) and it leads to nothing. Administrivia/TropesAreTools; however, not only do some think it's one of the best scenes in the movie, it functionally establishes the movie as a stylized musical and [[MusicalWorldHypothesis its rules]] (its songs being [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis exaggerated fantasies of "the real"]]), better allowing the audience to suspend their disbelief. There's also a bit of {{foreshadowing}} with [[spoiler:the first singer bringing up how she left her boyfriend behind to get into show business]].
10	* BrokenBase: The ending. Is it a bold aversion of the usual Hollywood HappilyEverAfter, or a poorly-foreshadowed DiabolusExMachina?
11	* CommonKnowledge: The movie has gained a reputation for being a musical "about how great Hollywood is". This despite the fact that it plays up the HorribleHollywood aspect of the city - showing Mia getting continually disrespected at auditions, having to go to parties full of vapid and shallow industry people and having Sebastian call it "the town where they praise everything and value nothing". The movie overall has a very cynical look at Hollywood, which seems to have been overlooked in favour of the splashy musical numbers. The fact that the movie's SignatureSong is called "City of Stars" probably doesn't help.
12	* DesignatedVillain: Though open for interpretation, as his music itself is never presented as outright bad, but Keith might come across as one. Keith is a jazz musician who understands the traditional form of Jazz is no longer popular like it used to be, and to save the music, he must adapt to what the younger people are listening to today. He creates a successful jazz fusion band. Sebastian, the protagonist, is a jazz traditionalist who doesn't want to change anything and thinks anyone doing so is a sellout and a traitor. Keith is shown as nice guy and just as passionate about jazz as Sebastian, but the film makes it seem like he is in the wrong for wanting to change the music from what it used to be, despite jazz itself being a form of music that was created as something new and non-traditional and something that evolved over time, never staying the same.
13	* EnsembleDarkhorse:
14	** Keith has become a favorite among viewers who admire him for his sympathetic qualities, given that he shows just as much passion for jazz as Sebastian and believes that it's important to adapt to what younger people are listening to today rather than merely save the art in its traditional form.
15	** Oddly enough, the film's producer Jordan Horowitz got a sizable fan base when he quickly took charge of revealing the Best Picture mix-up and helped the situation to be much less awkward than it could have been despite what had to be a violent storm of emotions that he was going through.
16	* FanonDiscontinuity: Relating to the BrokenBase, there are quite a few fans who prefer to disregard the ending, or to imagine [[spoiler:that the ending is part of a film shoot and that Mia and Sebastian's ImagineSpot within it is reflective of their actual lives.]]
17	* FandomRivalry:
18	** Many fans of Creator/LinManuelMiranda weren't happy with one of the film's ''two'' Oscar-nominated songs costing him the recognition of the fastest EGOT ever, though others still point out that he's pretty young and has plenty of time to be up for it again.
19	** An even bigger one has formed between this film and ''Film/{{Moonlight 2016}}'', especially in light of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCQn_FkFElI the botched Best Picture announcement]][[note]]Something a lot of people have noted is reminiscent of ''La La Land'' itself, where there was also a happy ending that was not to be[[/note]]. Fans of ''La La Land'' accuse ''Moonlight'' of being OscarBait only winning via due to race politics and being a darker story[[note]]Its win came the year after the Academy received intense backlash and criticism for the lack of racial diversity with nominations and winners in 2015 and 2016, leading many to believe the Academy gave the film the award in order to appease the critics[[/note]] and stealing the Best Picture award, and fans of ''Moonlight'' accuse detractors of ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch and consider ''La La Land'' to be [[HypeBacklash overrated]]. There are, however, many people who loved both movies, starting with the teams behind both films - including directors Damien Chazelle and Barry Jenkins and ''La La Land'' producer Jordan Horowitz - who have been ''extremely'' gracious to each other and have fully supported their respective successes.
20	* HilariousInHindsight:
21	** This film's rivalry with ''Film/Moonlight2016'' becomes this as of 2018, where Damien Chazelle's next film, ''Film/FirstMan'', is '''about''' the ''moon'' landing. For added bonus, Barry Jenkins' next film, ''Film/IfBealeStreetCouldTalk'', has ''jazz'' elements in the original score. Both films were also nominated for several awards at the Oscars, though ironically both received AwardSnub treatments this time, with [[FriendlyFandoms fans of both films agreeing with each other that it's a shame.]]
22	** Sebastian's character would be paralleled in ''{{Series/Riverdale}}'' with Josie's father being a passionate jazz saviour. And in this incarnation, Josie and her family get a RaceLift to become black. WebVideo/AndreTheBlackNerd joked that the show one-upped ''La La Land'' by being based on "the whitest of comics" and having the man obsessed with saving jazz actually be black.
23	** The scriptwriter’s terrible idea for a “Goldilocks and the Three Bears” adaptation becomes a lot funnier after Creator/ReeseWitherspoon’s production company announced that they were developing an animated kids film reimagining of said story.
24	* HypeBacklash:
25	** The film received the Critics' Choice Award for Best Picture, the American Film Institute's pick for 2016's 10 best films, the most Golden Globe wins in the ceremony's history (seven!), and a 92% rating on Rotten Tomatoes... so naturally, backlash was bound to happen; the main criticisms being of it being not very revolutionary and veering towards style over substance. It's also received some accusations of racism (due to the feud between the white Sebastian and the black Keith over the future direction of jazz) - though this didn't stop the film from placing fifth on [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/moonlight-named-best-picture-by-african-american-film-critics-association-955250 the African American Film Critics' Association's best of 2016 list]]. ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' even did [[http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/la-la-land-interrogation/3457925?snl=1 a sketch]] about the fans' tendencies to come down like a ton of bricks upon even people who call it SoOkayItsAverage.
26	** The Academy Awards only added fuel to the fire when the film racked up 14 nominations across thirteen categories, including two different nominations for Best Song, and ended up winning six of them. However, though six Oscars is certainly nothing to sniff at, it was actually a ''product'' of the backlash -- the film was expected to perform a near-sweep and earn at least ten Oscars. The losses even in categories considered locks (e.g. Costume Design) led to it underperforming at the awards against expectations.
27	* MemeticMutation:
28	** A crossover with ''VideoGame/MetalGear'', "La Li Lu Le Lo Land"[[labelnote:explanation]]a common reply by MGS fans every time Creator/HideoKojima talks about this movie[[/labelnote]].
29	** The dance pose on the poster is becoming popular among artists, switching Mia and Sebastian out for their OTP and such.
30	** "Use a BCC!" after an analysis of the numerous flaws of Mia's email about her one woman show, most memorably the faux pas of not using a BCC (a "blind carbon copy" which prevents the recipients of a mass email from seeing everyone else it was sent to).
31	* OneSceneWonder: Creator/JKSimmons only has one scene and a cameo in the ending fantasy... but hey, he's JK Simmons, and he plays a rather enjoyable MeanBoss.
32	* OvershadowedByControversy: Since 2017, the film is best known for being erroneously announced as the Academy Award winner for Best Picture, in which the actual winner was ''Film/{{Moonlight\|2016}}''. This caused the film to be known as "the one that didn't ''actually'' win an Oscar", never mind that it actually took home 6 Academy Awards - more than any other picture that night - including Best Director and Best Lead Actress. The mistake was bad enough, but even though the error was caught and the right film recognized, many people were frustrated that the creators of a film centering LGBT characters of color (a rarity for the Academy to honor) had their moment in the spotlight stolen by a film with two white leads centering a genre of music largely created by Black Americans. To this day it's the first thing that comes to mind for many people when discussing the film.
33	* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/JessicaRothe, who plays Mia's friend Alexis (she's in green during "Someone in the Crowd"), would break out a year later with ''Film/HappyDeathDay''.
34	* SacredCow: As mentioned under HypeBacklash (see above), the fans can become so defensive that it was mocked on ''Saturday Night Live'', in a sketch where host Creator/AzizAnsari is arrested and treated like a sexual predator for an offhand comment that he liked the movie but thought it had a few flaws.
35	* SugarWiki/SheReallyCanAct: While Creator/EmmaStone has been widely praised before, there were also many detractors who felt like she always just played the same kind of role. Those sentiments have all but disappeared after her Oscar-winning performance as Mia which takes her well outside her usual range.
36	* SignatureSong:
37	** "City of Stars."
38	** "Audition", too, to a lesser extent.
39	* SignatureScene:
40	** The opening number "Another Day of Sun" is generally well-regarded as an EstablishingSeriesMoment due to its complex dance choreography and bittersweet tone.
41	** The scene of Sebastian and Mia dancing in the observatory, and it segueing into them dancing in the stars. It was parodied quite frequently, most famously at the Golden Globes between Creator/JimmyFallon and Music/JustinTimberlake.
42	** The image of Sebastian and Mia dancing during "Lovely Night" that was used on most movie pictures (including Mia's iconic yellow dress).
43	* StoicWoobie: Mia of course. She dropped out of law school to become an actress and has to deal with nothing but dismissive attitudes and disrespect from the people she's auditioning for. She loves acting and can't catch a break, but she keeps on going, only breaking when hardly anyone turns up to her one-woman show. [[spoiler: She thankfully makes it big in the end]].
44	* ToughActToFollow: The infectiously lively "Another Day of Sun" opening music number can actually make it harder to enjoy the rest of the show due to how few of the other numbers can compare to it and how none of the interesting and likable singers from it show up again.
45	* UnintentionallySympathetic: Related to below, Keith to some, especially to viewers who find "Start a Fire" [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic actually pretty awesome]]. There are also many who find his arguments, especially regarding the fact that the original Jazz artists were innovators so it makes no sense to be stuck in the past, to fall under StrawmanHasAPoint. It also doesn't help that Keith comes off as a genuinely nice guy, while Sebastian does... not. (At least, not always.)
46	* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sebastian, to some viewers who see him as a pretentious, whiny prick. This was even mocked by Creator/RyanGosling himself in his next ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' appearance, where he goes on a cluelessly pretentious monologue about how "a white guy from Canada" saved jazz.

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