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1* AssPull: How America defeats the light monster a second time. She goes back in time to when she first fought the monster and teams up with her future self to send it forward in time, into a trap. There's no given reason as to why this makes the present version of the monster disappear, and why the timeline hasn't changed at all beyond that, despite the monster's existence directly affecting events.
2* BaseBreakingCharacter:
3** Is America spicy, fun, and badass? Or is she an obnoxious asshole? America's behavior and treatment of others in this story has divided the fanbase.
4** There are people that like America, but not as she was written in this book. There are some that preferred how Al Ewing wrote her in Ultimates.
5* BileFascination: It's not unusual for comic book fans to read this just to see with their own eyes how bad it actually is, based on others' reactions.
6* BrokenBase: Either it's a fun progressive comic with lots of stuff going on, or it's a terrible "trying too hard to be edgy and modern" comic with no plot. And then there's the SoBadItsGood camp.
7* CriticalDissonance: The book got stellar grades across the boards from critics, while fans gave the book a colder reception, resulting in poor sales.
8* {{Fanon}}: Madrimar's sexuality is never established. But since everyone is gay in fanon, HomosexualReproduction exists and her culture is steeped in lesbianism, fans generally assume that Madrimar is a lesbian, like the rest of her family.
9* MemeticMutation:
10** "Holy menstruation!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]A line from the first volume. It gained popularity for how {{Narm}}-y is is.[[/labelnote]]
11** "I'm Captain America." "Wait, did you say Hitler?" [[labelnote:Explanation]]When America travels back in time, she meets America, who warns him about Hitler before introducing himself. The meme comes from taking the last page out of context, making it look like America equates Captain America with Hitler. [[HilariousInHindsight This comes out on the heels]] of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', wherein Steve Rogers is a member of HYDRA.[[/labelnote]]
12** Kate Bishop's [[OutOfCharacterMoment incredibly OOC]] CharacterFilibuster in the fifth issue has become a very popular phrase. It even supplanted the ever-popular "Holy menstruation!" as the most recognized moment in the series.
13---> '''Kate:''' I'm literally intrigued and in awe of both of them. [America and Magdalena] If this is what it's like to date other women, then I applaud all the women dating women right now because this is incredible. Motorcycle courtship chase? Check. Missiles and explosions? Check. And now "we're just flying together in the sky, heading to a giant heart." I swear, if they come back married I'm going to be so jealous. *sigh* Always the bride's best archer, never the archer-bride.
14** Due to the infamous troll letter, which compared the book to ''Film/{{The Room|2003}}'', ''America'' is now recognized as, and called ''The Room'' of comics.
15* MisaimedFandom: A lot of people saw America punching Hitler as an empowering and badass moment, and took it as a sign to fight problems with their fists. But in the story itself, the scene showed that America was in the wrong; her reckless reaction ended up ruining the Allies' plan to stop Hitler, allowing him to get away.
16* NeverLiveItDown: Altogether, now: "Holy menstruation." Never mind that she only said this a single time, the comic's many detractors have latched onto this as her catch-phrase, if not simply using "holy menstruation" as a shorthand reference to America herself.
17* SoBadItsGood: There's people in the solo series' "hatedom" that genuinely enjoy it because of how bad it is. Hey, it may be bad, but it's unintentionally hilarious as well.
18* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: America can visit anywhere in the multiverse in an instant. This book even adds time travel to her power set. But instead of having America's adventures across time and space, most of the arcs just take place at Sotomayor University.

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