Line #63 YMMV/MobileSuitZetaGundam


1	* AccidentalInnuendo: When it comes with Mobile Suits:
2	** The front armor support stand on the Guncannon Detector's artillery form's crotch.
3	** The crotch sensor on the Barzam units.
4	* {{Adorkable}}: Kamille isn't as immediate as most examples, but he's cute and clearly has his moments of social awkwardness, especially when people poke fun at him.
5	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Quite a few.
6	** Char/Quattro: Complete {{Jerkass}} who is ready to lie and try to bed [[spoiler: Reccoa...maybe]] just for fun, or is he a perfectly human character that can be charismatic to many people but is useless one-on-one when it comes to stuff aside from combat?
7	** Quattro specifically is a major source of this. Just how real was Quattro? Some view him as Char's [[BitchInSheepsClothing Sheep's Clothing]] and only a mask that he put on to try and make himself look better. Some view him as Char's attempt to start over either as a way to [[KarmaHoudini escape his past]] or [[TheAtoner atone for it]]. Others view Quattro as a mask that Char [[BecomingTheMask tried his hardest to become]] and that he wanted to be a better person but circumstance and his own inability to empathize held him back. While another group views it as a TookALevelInKindness before he TookALevelInJerkass again.
8	** Jerid: An anti-Char: blonde hair, likes red, and instead of [[spoiler: becoming the big bad/main antagonist of the show is killed rather quickly in the penultimate episode after appearing less frequently.]] Or was he supposed to be a joke-rival from the start, who just scored a few lucky wins early on? [[spoiler: Though he did ascend rather quickly, even working right next to Jamitov, and though he failed to kill Kamille he did survive numerous fights with him for a long time.]]... You can't [[spoiler: promote pilots who die can you?]]
9	*** Oddly enough, Jerid was [[spoiler: [[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%89%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B5 originally supposed to die in Episode 30]]]], which would explain why [[spoiler: he appears less frequently in the latter half of ''Zeta'']].
10	** Reccoa: [[spoiler: Did she [[FaceHeelTurn go to the Titans]] because of Scirocco pulling some kind of Newtype power on her? (Scirocco demonstrates in the finale that he ''can'' MindRape people.) Or is she really a "[[BloodKnight combat junkie]]" who felt spurned by not getting more combat missions, and went to the Titans to handle her addiction instead? (She ''did'' admit to Kamille the "combat junkie" bit)]] Or was that bit of both?
11	** Scirocco: [[spoiler: Is he manipulating women and seizing power for his own profit, or is he acting out of more DarkMessiah motives? His speech in the final episode hints heavily at the latter... but as numerous characters comment, [[ManipulativeBastard Scirocco can't really be predicted at all]] and even more than 30 years later, his motives are still shrouded in mystery.]]
12	*** Does his stated desire to create a world ruled by a woman stem from a belief that [[CloserToEarth they're less warlike]]? Or did he actually have a desire to be [[TheManBehindTheMan The Man Behind The Woman]], considering the fact that he's a glorified pickup artist who finds them easy to manipulate and ''does'' manipulate emotionally-unstable ladies like Sarah [[spoiler: and Reccoa]] to be insanely devoted to him?
13	** Even Jamitov Hymem, of all people, gets some of this, was he a power hungry Earth-Supremacist who wishes to hinder human evolution into newtypes and kill and oppress all Spacenoids, or a visionary who wants to overthrow the corrupt Federation elite and move the population to space on his own terms, or both?
14	*** Supplementary materials says it's the latter and that he purposely filled the Titans with abusive power hungry assholes so that their actions would eventually cause war. Doesn't really forgive what he did though.
15	** And then there's the (somewhat) joking interpretation of Haman, where the reason she's so angry at Char is because he never slept with her in the time they were together.
16	** A rare instance of this applying to an event more than a person: for most of the time since the series was released, the events of the ending were fairly well understood: Kamille works with [[BackupFromOtherworld the souls of all his dead allies]] to kill Scirocco with a CombinedEnergyAttack, but with his dying breath, Scirocco uses his incredible Newtype powers to MindRape Kamille. However, there is an alternate viewpoint that's been gaining traction in some ExpandedUniverse works, which posits that Kamille's mental breakdown was actually a result of being possessed by the wills of other people eroding his own will, with Scirocco's final attack having either been a distraction causing Kamille to lose control of the spirits or the straw that broke the camel's back.
17	* {{Anvilicious}}: Can be seen this way, particularly about how Newtypes are the future, and how our "souls are bound by gravity" and that we need to move into space to both evolve ourselves as well as give the exhausted Earth some breathing room. It's just the show ''really'' shoves it in your face.
18	* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The compilation movies change the ending to make them incompatible with later Universal Century works. As such, many find them hard to recommend watching over the regular series.
19	* BaseBreakingCharacter:
20	** Kamille. There are some who find him to be a good replacement to Amuro and enjoy his CharacterDevelopment, whereas others find him annoying for his high angst and tantrums. Some of his worst detractors even believe that he doesn't deserve his FixFic from the movies.
21	** Yazan is either seen as one of the [[EvilIsCool coolest]] and most badass villains in the Universal Century series or as a horrible human being who doesn't deserve his KarmaHoudini status.
22	* CompleteMonster: [[GeneralRipper Captain Bask Om]], the second-in-command of the [[Characters/MobileSuitZetaGundamTitans Titans]], represents the worst of Earthnoid supremacy. Cruel and cold-hearted even as a member of the regular Earth Federation Forces, Bask showed nothing but glee when killing his own soldiers and paving the way for the Titans to become a reality during the conclusion of [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Operation Stardust]]. In ''Zeta'' proper, he is first seen beating Bright Noa for opposing an order that risked civilian lives and has Kamille Bidan's mother, Hilda, put in a capsule in outer space without a spacesuit in order to retrieve the Gundams stolen by the AEUG, and orders one of his men to shoot at it. He is also the man responsible for the Titans' brutal treatment of Spacenoids in the first place, gassing colonies and favoring the murder of hostages to get people to go along with his plans, and being a major proponent of the use of Cyber-Newtypes, teenage {{super soldier}}s created through MindRape and a cocktail of PsychoSerum.
23	* ContinuityLockout: The compilation movies seem to have been made under the assumption that one has seen the original series, as they act more as a highlight reel than a full-on replacement with a lot of exposition left out.
24	* CreepyAwesome: Paptimus Scirocco. He's a practitioner of MindRape, and yet despite that--or because of it--he's one of the most effective, well-liked villains in the franchise.
25	* DieForOurShip: Fa has been bashed often and for a long time by Kamille x Four fans. [[spoiler:Made worse when Four actually ''does'' die, Kamille lives but his brain is fried after being [[MindRape Mind Raped]] and Fa stays with him by his side as he slowly recovers from it.]]
26	* DracoInLeatherPants:
27	** Scirocco is a manipulative power-hungry man with a cruel streak. His machinations lead to a lot of death and chaos but he's also good-looking, charismatic, and humanized ''just'' enough for fans to take him under this trope. When put up next to the other Titan leaders like Jamitov and Bask, these traits made him resonate with fans much more.
28	** Four is really prone to this as while she commits a number of deeply terrible acts she's also a severely damaged girl. Fans and even the series itself focus more on the tragic aspect of the TragicVillain rather than the villain part.
29	** Haman receives this treatment a lot. It helps that her faction is ALighterShadeOfGrey and it's not until the sequel does she have her real moments of villainy. She's attractive and has just enough sympathetic moments for the audience to latch onto her.
30	** Char/Quattro is an interesting case because for most of ''Zeta'' he's much more heroic than his other depictions; his positive qualities are highlighted, he receives a number of PetTheDog moments, and his relationship with Kamille humanizes him. However, once ''Char's Counterattack'' comes along he plunges into his most heinous characterization and, retroactively, much of his Quattro depiction ends up being a prolonged example of BaitTheDog. Fans who prefer a sympathetic Char latch onto his depiction here and this translated into some cases of AdaptationalHeroism for him in the video games that walk back his later characterization of a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist. It's quite telling that ''Zeta'' would ultimately spawn the most sympathetic version of the [[RecurringElement Char Clone]] with certain future shows borrowing from the Quattro persona rather than the classic one.
31	* EnsembleDarkhorse:
32	** Apolly, to an extent. He had by far the most character of the minor cast and [[spoiler: he almost made it to the end despite being a {{Mook}} Rick Dias pilot, only dying because he was protecting Fa.]] Almost everyone who watched the show likes him, but it really didn't come apparent until him and the other minor ''Z Gundam'' pilots were removed in the ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' games to make room for the ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Gundam ZZ]]'' pilots. Thankfully, he and Roberto help represent ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' in ''SRW Z'' and ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars64 SRW 64]]'' as well.
33	** Emma and Henken are extremely popular characters in the fandom. It might have something to with the fact that the two are likable, (mostly) rational adults that don't annoy the cast and watchers, and [[OnlySaneMan are overall healthy mentally and emotionally]]. Also fans found the fact that [[GentleGiant Henken]] having a crush on [[ActionGirl Emma]] [[HugeGuyTinyGirl was]] [[{{Squee}} adorable]].
34	** Haman Khan for being seen as awesome, piloting a cool suit, sexy, her bitchiness, being a good pilot, or all of the above. She's especially popular on Website/FourChan's mecha board where she's hailed as the Queen of /m/.
35	** Also Four has her fans for her cute appearance and tragic story, considering she gets saved and joins the heroes in many ''SRW'' games. She even won Animage's Anime Grand Prix Award in 1985 in the category of favorite female anime character of the year and there's a novel that tells her origin story.
36	** In terms of Mobile Suits, despite its relatively short appearance on-screen and being piloted by an extremely minor character, the Barzam has a rather sizable following, so much so that it was able to get its first HG Gunpla kit in 2017 - almost 32 years after its debut.
37	* EvenBetterSequel: As well-liked as the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' may be, most fans feel that ''Zeta'' is a significant improvement with better writing, action, and animation. To many fans, ''Zeta'' can be compared to other, better sequel installments like ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' and ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''.
38	** On top of that, it's considered more memorable and influential given how the series is frequently referenced in other anime works and has the best-selling line of model kits.
39	* FanNickname:
40	** The O was suddenly called "[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick]]" after ''VideoGame/SDGundamOnline'' was released.
41	** The Bolinoak Sammahn is called "Mori No Kuma-san" (forest bear) in Japan because of its odd name and vaguely ursine appearance.
42	* FanonDiscontinuity: The movies are stated to be an AlternateContinuity by WordOfGod, but that doesn't stop some people from treating them as the "true" outcome for the sake of getting rid of ''[[ContestedSequel ZZ]]''.
43	* FranchiseOriginalSin: While many bemoan the RealityWarping shenanigans from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Unicorn]]'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamNarrative Narrative]]'', it was ''Zeta Gundam'' that introduced the idea that Newtype powers were more than simple telepathy. This took the form of things such as energy barriers, powering up the machines, disabling of enemy mobile suits, and even [[spoiler:using the spirits of the dead to help take out an enemy]]. These would then see further escalation in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ ZZ]]'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char's Counterattack]]''.
44	* HarsherInHindsight:
45	** Knowing what will happen in ''Char's Counterattack'', several of Quattro's interactions in the early series hit this. When discussing the gassed colony, Char brings up the need for people to leave Earth and migrate into space as part of the protest, which is a major part of his schemes in the movie. Especially when Quattro discusses the [[AMillionIsAStatistic mentality]] behind it; he disparages it but ultimately he would apply a similar mentality.
46	** The primary focus of the plot is the Anti-Earth Union Group and even internal parts of the Earth Federation fighting against the Titans, who are unchecked bullies that get their sick kicks out of committing war crimes and horrific acts of suppression to keep Spacenoids in line to prevent another Zeon. Even after everything that happens to expose the Titans, destroy them from the inside-out, and bring the Federation to responsibility, [[Literature/MobileSuitGundamHathawaysFlash it will all happen again]] once the Federation's corruption seeps through the aftermath of ''Char's Counterattack'', meaning Kamille and the AEUG went through hell and a half [[spoiler:and mostly died off]] [[HistoryRepeats for nothing to be learned.]]
47	** The grim consequences of Titans' nerve gassing operations became more horrifying with the condemnation of the government's use of chemical weapons on rebels and civilians in UsefulNotes/{{Syria}} by the government in TheNewTens, decades after the show's release.
48	* HilariousInHindsight:
49	** The Libyan word for Scirocco is "[[Creator/StudioGhibli Ghibli]]" (Studio Ghibli didn't technically exist yet when ''Zeta'' first came out). Scirocco's self-important attitude and two-faced "male feminist" pretensions could easily be mistaken for a rather unflattering caricature of Creator/HayaoMiyazaki. Both of them even have a background in aviation mechanics.
50	** The Bolinoak Sammahn's FanNickname in Japan is "forest bear" due to its name vaguely sounding like the Japanese words for such and slight resemblance to the animal. The Kuma [[AMechByAnyOtherName Origami]] from ''Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'' fits that nickname better.
51	** At one point Char proclaims that he's never betrayed anyone in his life. Besides the bald-faced BlatantLies at work that made fans giggle, many years later [[Manga/MobileSuitGundamTheOrigin we'd get a particular prequel and rewrite work]] that all but defines him as a [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder pathological backstabber]] incarnate.
52	** Quattro enters a burger joint called [=McDaniel's=], a thinly disguised name for [=McDonald's=]. And then the it comes to full-circle [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCcZSvGr3Xswhen Char advertises the Char Burger for McDonald's]].
53	* JerkassWoobie:
54	** Kamille Bidan.
55	** Four Murasame is one as well; no matter how sorry you feel for her, she's still the one who burns down Hong Kong while laughing about it in her first appearance.
56	** Also, Jerid. He may have the personality of a 1980's JerkJock and killed Kamille's mom and Four but he also lost all the people he genuinely cared for throughout the series because of Kamille.
57	* LoveToHate: The Titans produced some fascinatingly sick individuals:
58	** The Titan commander, Bask Om. Easily the most brutal of Jamitov's inner circle Bask has patience for nobody and violently beats or gasses anyone in his way.
59	** Yazan Gable absolutely revels in his cruelty. Where he goes, major character death follows, and he launched a FountainOfExpies for future Gundam shows.
60	** Paptimus Scirocco, making all of the factions dance around him with ease. His oily charisma and [[CreepyAwesome creepiness]] made him a more deserving BigBad than Jamitov.
61	* MagnificentBastard: [[DarkMessiah Paptimus Scirocco]], "The Man from Jupiter", is an elusive mercenary and [[Characters/MobileSuitZetaGundamTitans Titans]] Lieutenant who graduates to taking over the organization. A brilliant tactician both in and out of a mobile suit, Scirocco excels at reading potential in his subordinates and outmaneuvers the [[Characters/MobileSuitZetaGundamAEUG Anti-Earth Union Group (AEUG)]] to capture the strategic stronghold of the lunar city Von Braun. Leaving the day-to-day operations of the district in the hands of his antagonistic superior, Scirocco divulges the man's schemes to the AEUG and arranges for his death to gain more dominance within the Titans for himself. [[VillainTeamUp Forming an alliance]] with Haman Khan of Neo-Zeon, Scirocco bolsters the strength of the Titans with the Axis military and [[TheStarscream personally assassinates the Titans leader]], Jamitov Hymem, assuming command over the syndicate and blaming Jamitov's death on Haman, [[PlayingBothSides rallying his forces to fight against her]]. Giving a former AEUG pilot he corrupted to his side an eloquent lecture on his ambitions for humanity, Scirocco engages the AEUG personally and reveals he has kept his alliance with Haman to revitalize the strength of his fleet. Even with his armada destroyed by the blast of a colony laser, Scirocco continues to fight series protagonist Kamille Bidan and, [[TakingYouWithMe in his dying moments]], [[MindRape destroys Kamille's consciousness]], unrelentingly unwilling to accept his vanquishment. Emotionally manipulative yet charming, charismatic and stylish, Scirocco proves himself to be every bit as brilliantly Machiavellian as he is mysterious, remembered as one of the most compelling and nuanced villains of the franchise.
62	* MemeticMutation:
63	** "Captain Quattro, He is a CHAR!"
64	** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IUyqenD7kU Zeta PAUNCH!]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]In 2007, a video was released with two fight scenes from ''Zeta Gundam'' getting dubbed with ''Super Smash Bros.'' sounds, mostly of Captain Falcon calling out his Falcon Punch. This led to some audio dub videos using other media.[[/labelnote]]
65	** Kamille is also sick of adults and their lies.
66	** To a lesser extent: AMELIAAAAAAA.
67	** I came here to laugh at you.
68	** Disappear from this world and go where the X is!
69	** Isn't that a girl's X?
70	*** KAMILLE IS A MAN'S NAME, AND I'M A MAN!
71	*** After Episode 50, it becomes [[spoiler: KAMILLE [[BlackComedy IS A VEGETABLE'S NAME!]]]]
72	** [[spoiler:Scirocco's]] death by being impaled by Zeta's [[spoiler:Waverider nosecone]] is often associated with triangular-shaped and watermelon-flavored popsicles (called "watermelon bars").
73	*** His face upon [[spoiler: getting impaled]] is also a very memorable visual meme in Japan.
74	*** Really, even his name is a meme: people often deliberately misspell his name as "Papsmear Circus," for example.
75	** Violate! [[labelnote:explanation]]The TV-Nihon subs of the 2nd movie features Yazan's line: "I'm gonna violate you!", which is (accurately) translated from this original quote: ''手込めにしてやる, (tekome ni shite yaru)''. The other fansubs and the official releases doesn't translate the line well.[[/labelnote]]
76	** Violence is no answer! [[note]]Uttered by Kamille when he is being physically reprimanded by Wong Lee. The fact that it's ''[[HairTriggerTemper Kamille]]'' [[TalkToTheFist of all people]] saying this means [[{{Hypocrite}} the irony was not lost of the audience]].[[/note]]
77	** Viewers making jokes about how Jerid is the culprit ultimately responsible for the Gryps Conflict and other future events, including the rise of fall of Haman and Char's Neo-Zeon... all because he called Kamille a girl.
78	** [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Char has never betrayed anyone]] [[BlatantLies in his entire life, ever]].
79	* MemeticLoser:
80	** Kamille himself is widely mocked as a woman thanks to Jerid Mesa (his official cheesecake illustrations don't help), or as a [[spoiler:vegetable]] thanks to Paptimus Sciorcco.
81	** Non-human example: An understated example as the Mk. II actually avails itself quite well and is quite well-liked, but it is a unit that isn't even that high-performing at its rollout and gets more and more left in the dust as the series goes on and its status as a mediocre unit is often the subject of jokes. Its loser status is likely referenced in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' which has a CaptainErsatz of Gundams called the Huckebein. The Huckebein Mk. II was a meh unit, while the Mk. I and III are both amazing units.
82	*** Subverted in terms of Gunpla, since Gundam Mk-II kits in many grades are praised for their quality (such as its RG, where it was the measuring stick in how good a RG kit should be).
83	* MemeticMolester: Yazan "I'm gonna violate you!" Gable. There's also the early episode where he checked how "excited" rookie pilot Adol was about their mission with his hand.
84	* {{Moe}}: Four and Rosamia for some.
85	* MoralEventHorizon:
86	** The Titans crossed it before the main story even begins, having poison-gassed an entire civilian colony solely because they were ''protesting''. Kamille and Emma get to witness the results years later where the corpses were just left to rot, meaning the colony wasn't even repurposed but simply a fear-instilling step in the Titans' reign. If the viewer doesn't find that horrible, they get more than enough reasons in the series itself to witness plenty more horizons crossed.
87	** Kamille's dad Franklin was a huge jerk and he showed it via [[DomesticAbuse slapping his wife Hilda]] when she calls him out on his crap and [[spoiler: regarding her death very coldly]], but it ''really'' shines when [[spoiler: he tries to [[OffingTheOffspring kill Kamille]] in battle despite Kamille pleading with him to not fight. It's a ''relief'' when Quattro decides to kill Franklin with his own mecha.]]
88	** Bask crosses this in the 3rd episode [[spoiler: by tricking Jerid into executing Kamille's mother Hilda]] and somehow only gets worse further on.
89	** [[spoiler: Reccoa]] has hers when she gasses a civilian colony.
90	*** In [[spoiler: Reccoa's]] defense, [[IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten Bask ordered her to gas the colony to prove her allegiance]], which is probably one reason why [[spoiler: [[EvenEvilHasStandards she later kills him when she gets the chance.]]]]
91	** Ben Wooder crosses this when he [[spoiler:kidnaps Mirai and her children and places them in the middle of an imminent battlefield on a boat]], just to spite the AEUG and restrict them, followed up by indiscriminately ''bombing Hong Kong city'' because the local forces weren't capturing the AEUG efficiently enough. Of course, he arguably crossed it in the episode prior when he dropped the Psyco Gundam on the city, even if Four was the one doing the real damage.
92	** Jamaican gets his own when, pissed that he and his soldiers are forced out, he orders a ColonyDrop on Granada.
93	* {{Narm}}:
94	** At the end of "Half Moon Love," Kamille's contorting and tortured face, after realizing Sarah had escaped, makes him look like a stoner.
95	** The sheer amount of times people are beating the crap out of each other. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnpinHvEH-U There's a video on [=YouTube=] that's 7 minutes long consisting of nothing but people slapping and punching each other.]]
96	** The often repeated line about people from Earth having "souls weighed down by gravity."
97	** For some reason when Kamille punches Char, the scene goes into slowmotion with Char thinking "This is youth" while shedding a tear for some reason.
98	** Pick one of the lectures on the differences between men and women.
99	** Kamille claiming that violence is not the answer when he is involved in dozens of beat ups.
100	** At least in the English dub, Char angrily tells Haman that he has never betrayed anyone in his life.... Yeah, about that.
101	* PlayAlongMeme: It's pretty obvious to the viewer even from the first episode that Quattro is Char under a new identity (him revealing it to others is somewhere between OpenSecret and InternalReveal), but the fanbase loves to joke about how that upstanding Quattro fellow has nothing to do with the dastardly Char Aznable.
102	* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Beltorchika in her second appearance. Not only is she [[CharacterDevelopment more mature and humble]] [[SatelliteLoveInterest than she used to be]], but she got a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome via [[spoiler: recording the brutal mecha battle whose footage Char uses in his speech.]]
103	* TheScrappy:
104	** Katz Kobayashi wasn't exactly beloved in the previous series, but his [[TookALevelInJerkass more stubborn personality]] and many gullible moments in this series caused fans to call him one of the worst characters in the show. Some people ''[[TakeThatScrappy cheered]]'' when he [[spoiler: crashed into an asteroid during the finale]]. Even the compilation films' attempts to make him more sympathetic did nothing.
105	** Reccoa's [[spoiler: FaceHeelTurn]] earned her the scorn of fans for her reasoning seeming completely nonsensical, as [[spoiler:[=AEUG=] treated her as a great friend and ally while the man she turned to, Scirocco, is a womanizer]].
106	** Wong Lee is generally seen as an annoying {{Jerkass}} instead of the SternTeacher he had shades of at the start. Not many were upset when Judau punched him in the sequel.
107	* SpecialEffectFailure:
108	** There are a few instances where animation from the opening is used in the episodes themselves for StockFootage purposes. Given how the opening was given a higher budget, it sticks out considerably compared to the regular animation of the rest of the episodes.
109	** The new footage made for the compilation movies really doesn't blend well with the old footage, which is to say not at all. Ignoring the necessary change from cel animation to digital animation, the style of the shading used and the way the characters' faces are drawn (mostly notably their eyes) is completely different. To say nothing of the occasional mid-2000s CGI used for the ships.
110	* StrangledByTheRedString:
111	** Kamille and Four, whose Newtype powers cause them to fall in love within seconds of meeting. This is justified in-show (Four is badly messed up due to her DarkAndTroubledPast, Kamille was the first person to treat her like a human being and not a test subject), but it doesn't make the relationship any more real to those watching it.
112	*** It's given a lampshade by Chris of MAHQ. When commenting on [[spoiler: G Gundam's GrandFinale and the ''epic'' [[EarnYourHappyEnding end]] of Domon and Rain's love story]], he points out that "They ([[spoiler:Domon and Rain]]) are not Newtypes who magically reach an understanding of each other, [[CharacterDevelopment they're normal people who have to develop their love over time]]."
113	** Amuro and Beltorchika meet in Episode 15. They barely talk. Then, in Episode 16, they are already kissing for the third time. Somebody needs to [[SoYouWantTo/WriteALoveStory learn how to write romance apparently]]. Again, justified in-story: Amuro doesn't actually love Beltochika, but is using her presence as an excuse to not deal with his massive traumas. Interestingly enough, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen had Tomino gotten his way]] with his original draft of [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char's Counterattack]] and had Amuro marry Beltorchika, it's likely that he would have eventually fallen for her for real.
114	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The compilation movies generally aren't held in very high regard in the fandom for, among other things, removing the DownerEnding, changing the roles of several characters, and making the Universal Century works that take place afterward impossible.
115	* TearJerker: Where to even begin!?
116	** [[spoiler:[[FourIsDeath Four]] Murasame's]] death in the episode "Forever Four" (made more poignant by a HopeSpot and Kamille's DeathWail), remembered as one of the best episodes of the ''Gundam'' franchise. In fact, a certain death scene in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]'' ([[spoiler:Stella's]]) was basically copied from this very scene.
117	** Another tear jerker for this series is when [[spoiler: Kamille kills his "little sister" Rosamia. She was basically [[BrainwashedAndCrazy mindscrewed by the Titans]] and only wanted a normal life; Kamille felt bad when he killed her, because he wanted to see her have a normal life in the end.]] What really makes it hit home is [[spoiler: her last words, "Brother, I've found you."]].
118	** Next to [[spoiler:Four's]] death was [[spoiler: when Kamille's mother, Hilda, was killed. He was trying to save her and just about did, then Jerid has to shot her capsule exposing her to the vacuum of space without a space suit on. It happened right in front of Kamille, not to mention she may have been a MissingMom, but she still cared for him ''way'' more than her JerkAss husband.]]
119	** [[spoiler: [[LadyOfWar Emma Sheen's]] death.]] Which came right after [[spoiler: the sacrifice of the Radish and [[GentleGiant Henken Beckener's]] demise. The saddest part of her death was how Kamille lingered in the room with her. You could really see his hesitance in leaving her body there and the way he turned back to her as he opened the door was the saddest thing in all of ''Zeta Gundam'' and is perhaps the saddest launch announcement ever.]]
120	** It's easy to forget in among all the heroic deaths in Episode 49, but the death of [[spoiler:Jerid Messa]] is just depressing. To see a character, even a villainous one, who's been with us since the first episode, who we've learned to sympathize with, die such a pointless, meaningless death, is honestly pretty heartbreaking, especially since he wasn't that bad compared to the rest of the Titans.
121	-->''"If it wasn't for you Kamille..."''
122	** Episode 45: Between [[spoiler: Apolly's death]] and Fa's talk with Emma after [[spoiler: her showdown with Reccoa, where Fa blames herself for not being able to kill her]]...
123	** The final scene in the show hits home HARD. Fa finding Kamille alive, only to realize [[spoiler: he's been brain damaged by Scirocco]]. Just seeing her expression sort of sums up the show...
124	** The ending of the final movie, which [[spoiler: completely inverts the ending of the show. The final scene is of Kamille and Fa tearfully reuniting as they float around the quiet battlefield, with Kamille commenting that even after all the horror and death he's been witnessed, they're still alive.]] It also leans more towards a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment\|s}} because of this.
125	* ValuesDissonance:
126	** Even more so than the original series, characters are quick to dish out CorporalPunishment. Wong's beatdown of Kamille in particular for disobeying orders and talking out of line was treated as both right and justified by other characters. The fandom's opinion on this, [[KickTheDog was quite the opposite]].
127	** When trying to defend himself for his arrogance, Kamille calls himself an autistic child and Emma gets even angrier at him for making excuses. In the context of Japan at the time, autism was treated as general anti-social behavior, so Emma's frustration is born from Kamille essentially saying that he is blameless for being a kid with problems socializing. In the more modern definition of autism, Emma's reaction comes off as more unfortunate because it seems like she is just brushing off Kamille having a disorder and the effects it has on him.
128	* {{Wangst}}:
129	** Kamille spends a pretty big portion of the series whining about everything wrong with his life and the world. It's not even a girl's name, you know.
130	** Four, Beltorchika, and Katz are all prone to obnoxious bouts of self-pity too. Then again, two of them ''are'' teenagers (and one's ''very'' mindscrewed) and the other is ''extremely'' naive in regards to war.
131	* {{Woolseyism}}: Kai's introductory line to Reccoa is a little more straightforward in the dub. It also sets up nicely for some dialogue between them at the end of the episode. But the direct translation actually has NarmCharm due to it [[BlindIdiotTranslation not seeming to make a whole lot of sense]]. Reccoa's amused response, however, is probably more in character for the line in the sub.
132	-->'''Dub''': "My name's Kai Shiden. And as a freelance journalist, I can behave professionally, even with a beautiful woman such as yourself."
133	-->'''Sub''': "My name's Kai Shiden. As a freelance journalist, I can appear anywhere, anytime. Even the Vatican."

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