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5[[folder:Pre-release]]
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7[[WMG:The power of the Chaos Emeralds will be used like in the past media and there as followed.]]
8* Contain unlimited energy.
9** As stated by Robotnik.
10* Travel through [[TimeTravel Time]] and [[CasualInterstellarTravel Space]].
11** More so than the rings.
12* Turn the users into their super form.
13** This will create [[SuperMode Super Sonic]]. Confirmed.
14* Travel to alternate [[TheMultiverse universes]].
15** For potential Crossovers.
16* Control the powers of others.
17** A possibility for Robotnik to remove Sonic's super speed so he can [[VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles outrun him]].
18
19[[WMG:Here is possible ideas of how we will see other characters.]]
20* Amy Rose will be a background character if we see more of Sonic’s world.
21** Alternatively, Amy will be introduced in a mid credits or post credits scene teasing her inclusion in a potential third film. Her actress will be [[UncreditedRole left out of the credits]] so whoever they cast as her can be a surprise for audiences.
22** Jossed. She does not appear.
23* Shadow will be in the post-credits, deep within a secret location hidden by the government from Robotnik because of his destructive record.
24** Confirmed.
25* Rouge the Bat will show up similar to Amy.
26** Alternatively, Rouge could be mentioned in passing as someone Knuckles has encountered/been robbed by in his past.
27** Jossed.
28* Chaos will be referenced in a temple carving and the final fight in the end.
29** Jossed.
30* A Chao will be a carving on the temple wall.
31* Tikal will appear with Pachacamac and will be Knuckles’ sister in this version.
32** Jossed.
33
34[[WMG:At the end of the movie, the Master Emerald will get destroyed…]]
35* In the third movie, the plot will be about getting back the gems, resulting in making it a CompositeCharacter of the Master Emerald from ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' and the Chaos Emeralds.
36* Due to recent confirmation of Knuckles the Echidna series, it's possible that it will be centered around collecting the Master Emerald pieces. Like in [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure certain]] [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 games]] as well as in [[Recap/SonicXS1E17TheAdventuresOfKnucklesAndHawk the anime]].
37* Partially confirmed. It is temporarily destroyed, but Knuckles restores it.
38
39[[WMG:The Echidna Tribe will be completely [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse ignored]].]]
40* Because of two reasons.
41** One. They want to focus on Knuckles as much as possible, like in the games.
42** Two. It will be a [[ScrewedbytheLawyers legal decision]]. Like how SEGA had with a [[VideoGame/SonicChronicles past game]].
43*** As long as there isn’t any advanced technology enemy group, there shouldn’t be a problem.
44*** The Echidna tribe was created before Penders claimed characters he'd created as his intellectual property. So it seems unlikely he'd have a legal leg to stand on.
45* The trailer has Sonic thinking Knuckles is after his powers, so right out of the gate it’s obvious they won’t ignore it.
46* Plus, it's been confirmed that Pachacamac was among the echidnas, so I don't think Sega's afraid to allow Paramount to give them a mention.
47** Also, ''Sonic X'' showed the Echidna Tribe and Penders apparently couldn't sue TMS Entertainment over it. So there's little reason Paramount shouldn't be able to present The Echidna Tribe as well.
48* Jossed. The Echidna Tribe are shown in flashbacks, and Knuckles' entire motivation is to honor them by finding the Master Emerald.
49
50[[WMG:Longclaw's people stole the Master Emerald and the Chaos Emeralds and hid them across the universe, with one being on Earth.]]
51* In the trailer, the room where Eggman finds what is presumably the Master Emerald has Owl reliefs in the background, which seems to indicate that Longclaw's people were involved with the Emeralds. The map that Sonic was given is a map to the other Emeralds, and the reason Longclaw or her people even knew about Earth to begin with is because they hid an Emerald there in the past.
52** It would be an excellent twist to why the Echidna Tribe attacked Longclaw and Sonic 10 years ago; they weren't at all interested in Sonic but rather were seeking to capture ''Longclaw'' to interrogate her for the location of the Master Emerald, with the attempt ending in failure because Longclaw either died or escaped before they could get any information from her. Robotnik later finds the Master Emerald himself and convinces the Echidna Tribe to let him temporarily weaponize it (with Robotnik falsely promising to return it later) as a reward for helping them find it.
53** Partially Confirmed, they were after the Master Emerald, but were all killed by Longclaw before she died.
54
55[[WMG:Someone else stole the Chaos Emeralds and/ the Master Emerald and framed Longclaw and Sonic for it.]]
56* Jossed. Longclaw's Owl Tribe took the Master Emerald and hid it away to avoid it falling into the wrong hands.
57
58[[WMG:FantasticRacism will play into the conflict between Sonic and Knuckles.]]
59Sonic will ''not'' take kindly to meeting an echidna, since their tribe was responsible for Longclaw's apparent death. The trailer also suggests he's under the impression that Knuckles is after his power just like his people, which could also factor into Sonic's views.
60* There could possibly be some elements of it. [[FreezeFrameBonus Looking closely]] at the first trailer shows that Sonic already saw Knuckles before going in for the first strike, with the dialogue implying he thought Knuckles was ''also'' going to try stealing his power.
61* Jossed.
62
63[[WMG:The ending will reveal that the emerald shown was only one out of several reality-warping emeralds]]
64* And alongside the seven emeralds we all know about, there we be nods to others; such as, [[Videogame/SonicShuffle a large glowing stone said to be made of dreams]], [[Videogame/SonicRush seven emerald cut gems]] [[Videogame/SonicRushAdventure similar to the Chaos Emeralds]], [[Videogame/SonicMania a magenta]] [[Videogame/SonicForces icosahedron ruby]], and [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW a round orange gemstone with a spiral pattern.]]
65** Jossed. The Master Emerald was created by the echidna tribe fusing the seven Chaos Emeralds together.
66
67[[WMG:Sonic and Knuckles' powers came from the Master Emerald.]]
68In the first film, Sonic initially thought that he was ''born'' with his powers, but Longclaw could've lied about this, because he was ''given'' them as a baby. The Master Emerald used to belong to the Echidna Tribe and they bestowed Sonic the gift of speed and Knuckles the gift of strength to use them both as ''weapons'' for world-conquering. However, Longclaw and her people attacked the Echidnas and took Sonic in to raise him as a person instead of a warrior (and the tribe was actually trying to take him back). Knuckles, meanwhile, was raised as a weapon, just as the tribe wanted. This could be a good plot point in Sonic and Knuckles' relationship as, since both their powers came from the Master Emerald, they could potentially realize that they're like brothers and [[HeelRealization Knuckles can realize that Robotnik was only using him to go after the Emerald himself]].
69* Jossed. The Master Emerald was hidden on Earth before either was born.
70
71[[WMG:Casting choices for The G.U.N. Commander]]
72* Creator/StephenLang
73** Semi-Jossed as Commander Walters appears in the first trailer in a G.U.N. uniform, meaning he's most likely to be the G.U.N. Commander of this continuity.
74
75[[WMG:Longclaw will be back.]]
76* Unlikely. Even if she did survive, she would've died from old age according to a deleted scene.
77** Though she will possibly return in a [[CoolOldLady very very old age]] and help guide Sonic and his friends before she dies.
78*** Completely jossed with the Official Pre-quill comic. Longclaw sadly did die against the Echidnas.
79*** Does her hologram count?
80
81[[WMG:The Songs Sweet Dream and Hard Times will be used.]]
82
83Sweet Dreams (the song used for Sonic 2's ending) would be a perfect use for the film's ending.
84
85Whilst Hard Times by the Jetzons is widely known to have been used for Ice Cap Zone's legendary tune. It would make sense to use in the Ice Cap callback part of the film.
86
87[[WMG:Either Amy, Metal Sonic, or Shadow will be in TheStinger of the film]]
88It's likely they'll SequelHook again like they did in the first film. So it's only logical either Amy, Metal Sonic, or Shadow follow up after this adventure. The second seems pretty likely if Knuckles turns on Robotnik in the film and he figures he needs a fighter more obedient, under his control and fight fire with fire. Plus we know the man loves his robots. Especially true if Robotnik still hangs onto Sonic's quill. Amy likely could either fall through a portal or maybe be rescued by Sonic during a brief trip back to his world and want to find a way to meet him. And Shadow? Well, the government ''was'' involved a bit in the first movie. Maybe after the antics of this movie, they'll want their own "Sonic" too and try to clone him?
89* Alternatively, it will be revealed that Shadow already exists, and he's lying dormant in a hidden base until Robotnik finds him. Shadow's discovery and awakening will lead to the reveal in a future movie that beings from Sonic's world came to Earth long before he, Tails, or Knuckles did...
90* Confirmed for Shadow.
91
92[[WMG:During a big fight or action sequence, Knuckles will let out a distraught [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure "Oh no!"]]]]
93Because how funny would it be to hear Idris Elba say it in his baritone voice?
94* Sadly Jossed.
95
96[[WMG:Tom brought Sonic out to the middle of a lake to keep him from running away from a serious talk]]
97Would ''you'' trust a hyperactive teenager to stay put long enough to have a serious discussion?
98* This scene might even be used to re-establish one of Sonic's few major weaknesses — his inability to swim — possibly so he can overcome it later in the movie.
99* Jossed, they're just fishing before Tom gives his pep talk. The scene does establish Sonic's fear of water when he falls off the boat, but Tom is not intentionally exploiting it.
100
101[[WMG:One or more of the memes associated with Knuckles will be referenced, but the joke will be at him and not ''from'' him.]]
102Say, someone calling Knuckles an "enchilada" by accident. Or Sonic possibly using it as a taunt, with Knux giving [[TalkToTheFist the appropriate response]].
103* Confirmed, sort of. Agent Stone calls him a "space porcupine" and gets his arm broken as a result. Sonic, for his part, gets PunchedAcrossTheRoom by Knuckles after taunting him for being unable to land a hit on him.
104
105[[WMG:Sonic's past will be explored more, along with Knuckles' and Tails']]
106
107[[WMG:Super Sonic and Super Knuckles will feature.]]
108
109Possibly as one of the climax fights. either Sonic VS Knuckles. or Both vs Robotnik.
110
111[[WMG:Knuckles' affiliation with Robotnik is most likely a ploy and plans to deceive him to retrieve the Chaos Emerald from his grasp.]]
112He's been duped by Eggman's tricks more than once on numerous times in some of the games, and he doesn't really go into account nor even questions on why Eggman is "turning over a new leaf" considering that he was tricked by him to steal the Master Emerald in his debut. The most shocking reveal for Knuckles' character arc in the movie could possibly be is that Knuckles is ''pretending'' to be used by Robotnik, therefore, he would look and inspect the situation even further and decides to goes along with it to figure out more of his schemes since the Chaos Emerald is a [[EvilIsNotAToy highly omnipotent amulet that shouldn't fall into the hands of greed and treachery]] and joins forces with Sonic and Tails after he explains his real mission for the saving the world from Robotnik's conquest.
113* This could also show that this incarnation of Knuckles isn't as completely gullible as he looks, giving him more of a GeniusBruiser aspect of his character.
114* Alternatively, it could be a mix of both. Knuckles could view Robotnik as a means to an end for [[DragonWithAnAgenda his own goals]] rather than just immediately trustworthy, and [[TeethClenchedTeamwork remain suspicious of him throughout their relationship]], viewing his decision to work with the doctor as pragmatic rather than honorable like in the original. Eventually, and possibly after observing everything for long enough, he realizes ''on his own'' that Robotnik is lying, rather than him being fed it by a betrayal from the doctor or a plea from the good guys. That way, he could keep some of his gullible traits from the games, but without it overshadowing his other traits to make him look meatheaded or incompetent.
115
116[[WMG:Shadow will show up in TheStinger]]
117And he will be holding three Chaos Emeralds as a [[VisualPun Visual]] MythologyGag to that infamous line from ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog''.
118** Confirmed.
119
120[[WMG:There will be another bar fight.]]
121And Sonic will start this one too. Possibly out of ego because of how he handled the last one. Bonus points if some of the same thugs are involved.
122* Semi-confirmed? There is a part in the trailer where both Sonic and Tails enter some cabin/bar with some intimidating-looking guys glaring at them causing Tails to faint. Chances are another fight could happen, only with Tails caught in the mix.
123* Mostly jossed. The scene ultimately becomes a dance battle rather than an actual fight.
124
125[[WMG:Mythology gags]]
126Sonic is seen eating a chili dog, his favorite food from WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog. Stone is running a coffee shop called [[VideoGame/DoctorRobotniksMeanBeanMachine Mean Bean]]. What else will the sequel offer?
127* Robotnik will make prototype robots of [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog Scratch, Grounder, and/or Coconuts.]]
128** Alternatively, while building something to combat Sonic, Robotnik will go through several blueprints, many containing the designs of Eggman robots from all across the franchise.
129* Robotnik will discover how to convert [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM organic matter]] [[WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground into]] [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics machines]].
130* Tom will mention an uncle named [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM Ch]][[WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground u]][[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics ck]] (AdaptationalSpeciesChange and RelatedDifferentlyInTheAdaptation being applied).
131* Robotnik calling Stone [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM "Sniv]][[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics ely"]].
132* [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog "Snooping as usual, I see"]] and [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM "I HATE THAT]] [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog HEDGEHOG!"]]
133* Robotnik will offhandedly mention his [[Videogame/SonicAdventure2 grandfather and cousin]], possibly leading into the eventual debut of Shadow.
134* Sonic will express interest in racing against a [[Anime/SonicX formula one driver]].
135* Sonic will drop his trademark-pending moniker of "Blue Justice" and replace it with his official nickname of Blue Blur.
136* Sonic will disguise himself in a green duffel coat with sunglasses, a green ushanka, mittens, boots and a yellow scarf. He will call himself [[ComicBook/SonicTheComic Bob Beaky]].
137
138[[WMG:Knuckles is a southpaw.]]
139In the trailer Knuckles catches the spindashing Sonic with his left hand and towards the end of the trailer he throws a left-handed punch with his right in front of him like a southpaw.
140
141[[WMG:Just like how the end of the first film showed Sonic getting his own room at Tom and Maddie's house, the sequel will end with Sonic, Tails and Knuckles working together to build a vacation home for the Wachowskis on Mobius]]
142If Sonic decides to leave Earth and return to Mobius, that is.
143* Jossed. Knuckles and Tails stay on Earth with Sonic and the Wachowskis. The film ends with them all playing baseball together.
144
145[[WMG:Why Tails has come to Earth]]
146He's actually a member of the film series's equivalent to the Freedom Fighters, this time consisting of major supporting characters from the game who have yet to make their live action debut (Amy, the Chaotix, Cream, Big), who have enlisted Tails for his mechanical genius in helping them stop Robotnik. After hearing about Sonic somehow, Tails is set to Earth to recruit the blue blur.
147* Alternatively, given the "hope I'm not too late." comment, he isn't actually looking for Sonic, he's trying to find KNUCKLES and stop him from doing something stupid.
148* Jossed. Tails is not working on behalf of anyone. He discovers Sonic on his own, and travels to Earth when he learns Knuckles is pursuing Sonic.
149
150[[WMG:Sonic is flying the Tornado initially before Tails takes the helm.]]
151Notice how Tails is in the backing pilot's seat. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that Sonic was originally flying and Tails flew himself into the plane to fully meet Sonic.
152
153This would ring true to the canon that the Tornado is actually Sonic's Plane.
154
155* Jossed. Tails is the only one piloting the Tornado while Sonic and Knuckles hang onto it.
156
157[[WMG:Sonic and Knuckles' ''power'' is actually a Chaos Emerald that's been ''in'' them this whole time.]]
158A big deal about the Master Emerald is that it can be used to affect/control the chaos emeralds. I think they're showing us the Master Emerald first so they can surprise us with it doing something crazy to Sonic & Knuckles' powers, which reveals that the Master Emerald is actually reacting to the Chaos Emerald secretly in them all along. It would explain why Sonic had seemingly two unrelated tiers of super powers in the first film (super speed and vague electrical powers), as well as explain why sometimes Sonic could move so fast that time seems to literally stop (chaos control). The super speed and high damage tolerance might be one with Sonic from years of having the chaos emerald in him while the electric and time stop powers are from the emerald directly. I'm guessing Sonic has one (blue), Knuckles has one (red), Tails might have one based on how fast he could fly in Sonic 1's post credits (yellow), and if the popular 3rd movie theory holds up, Shadow would probably have the grey one.
159
160[[WMG:There will be equivalents of the Motobug in the movie or later installments]]
161It's already been revealed that white Buzz Bombers are in this movie, so why wouldn't there be an equivalent for the Motobugs? Perhaps they might resemble their Sonic Forces incarnations but white, have super speed and maybe even tasers or guns.
162
163[[WMG:Sonic's clash with Knuckles will be a personal matter for the former.]]
164In the trailer, Sonic declares how they will never have his power just before Knuckles rebukes him and beats him down. It is likely that the moment Sonic sees that Knuckles is an echidna: He may remember the echidna tribe that hunted him down and forced him to separate from Longclaw back when he was still a baby and thus automatically assume Knuckles is affiliated with them and wants his power.
165
166[[WMG:If Pachacamac is present/mentioned, he and Knuckles will be RelatedDifferentlyInTheAdaptation and/or have an AdaptationRelationshipOverhaul]]
167WordOfGod has stated that the echidna who shot down Longclaw was Pachacamac himself. In the games, Pachacamac existed 4000 years before Sonic's time with Knuckles having no strong feelings towards his ancestors but in the movie's canon is around the time Sonic was a toddler. Since Knuckles' official age has him just a bit older than Sonic: It is possible that if Pachacamac is mentioned or even appears in the movie, he and Knuckles might be more directly related whether it be grandfather/father and grandson/son, or even Knuckles answering directly under him whether it be as his [[TheDragon Dragon]] or just as a loyal member of the tribe.
168
169[[WMG:Knuckles is the result of the Echidna attempting to replicate Sonic's power.]]
170It feels odd that they would go after Sonic if Echidna could produce the same sort of energy with potentially stronger results, seeing as Knuckles practically curbstomps Sonic.
171
172Its possible that when Sonic left the realm. The Echidna would of possibly resorted to trying to make the same power possible in one of their own. (Which may have involved torturing the info out of Longclaw) The result ultimately being Knuckles.
173
174* Alternatively, the echidna tribe from the first movie were a completely different tribe and they were attempting to gain Sonic's power so they'd have the means to COMBAT Knuckles.
175* Leading credence to this in the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVj6vs-738o "Big Game" tv spot]] Knuckles' claims it's his destiny to destroy Sonic, implying he's been preparing for this moment for a long time.
176
177* Jossed. The film reveals that the echidna tribe were pursuing Sonic and Longclaw to find the Master Emerald. They were not interested in Sonic's power.
178
179[[WMG:Sonic will give Tails his nickname]]
180It is very strange for you to introduce yourself to someone while you're both on a plane with missiles coming towards you. And trailers purposefully misplace lines before. When Tails introduces himself, he will say his name is Miles. After bonding a bit, Sonic nicknames him Tails, and he'll like it. "The name's Tails" line in the trailer will actually be said towards Tom and/or Maddie.
181
182* Jossed. Tails is already called that. Though his line introducing himself to Sonic does occur earlier in the film.
183
184[[WMG:There will be a reference to "da wae".]]
185They mentioned the Sanic meme in the first film, and maybe they'd make a subtle nod to it by either Knuckles asking for directions, or a character asking Knuckles "if he knows the way", in a casual, non-memetic context when taken at face value.
186* Confirmed: Robotnik says he would gladly show Knuckles "the way" in regards to finding Sonic.
187
188[[WMG:There could be an ActorAllusion to Idris Elba's previous roles.]]
189Probably a line about [[Film/PacificRim "cancelling the apocalypse"]] when they're trying to save the world from being destroyed.
190
191[[WMG:Metal Sonic will be the final boss]]
192Robotnik uses the quill he took off of Sonic to power Metal Sonic. He unleashes him on the Echidna Tribe, and Knuckles believes it's the real Sonic because he wasn't able to get a good look at him. Once Knuckles realizes he's been bamboozled, he teams up with Sonic and Tails to take out Metal Sonic while Robotnik VillainExitStageLeft.
193
194* As a bonus, he will have a [[EverythingIsAnIpodInTheFuture sleeker, more iPod-like design]] to fit the aesthetic of Robotnik's robots in this continuity.
195** After being defeated, however, Robotnik will repair him and paint him blue to mark his transition from using sleek white robots to the more colorful, animal-like robots as seen in the games.
196
197[[WMG:Knuckles will have a case of AdaptationalVillainy.]]
198Since Knuckles was confirmed to be working with Dr. Robotnik for reasons unknown, it is implied that the film will be his villainous role first instead of his heroism role.
199
200* Jossed. He ultimately sides with Sonic, as he does in the other adaptations.
201
202[[WMG:Knuckles will have a HeelFaceTurn]]
203Since in the second game of Sonic the Hedgehog, where Knuckles became a friend of Sonic and Tails at the end of the game, it is implied that once he does see the error of his ways, he will betray Dr. Robotnik and help Sonic and Tails stop him.
204
205* Confirmed.
206
207[[WMG:There will be another SequelHook on Sonic the Hedgehog 3]]
208Since the previous film had a mid-credits-scene where it has set up Sonic the Hedgehog 2, The film may have another SequelHook that will set up Sonic the Hedgehog 3.
209* Cornfirmed. He appears in the mid-credits scene.
210
211Some potential ideas for said Sequel Hook:
212* Showing an ancient mural depicting [[Videogame/SonicAdventure a giant water serpent causing immense destruction.]]
213* Commander Walters searching through Robotnik's files and finding info on [[Videogame/SonicAdventure2 his grandfather and Project Shadow.]]
214** Confirmed.
215* Pachacamac learning of Robotnik's failure and Knuckles' betrayal and deciding it's time to handle Sonic [[ItsPersonal personally.]]
216* Metal Sonic's creation, using the data collected from Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to create Robotnik's ultimate weapon
217* Shadow appearing in a [[TheStinger post-credits-scene]], which will set up Sonic 3, and a possible spin-off series like Knuckles.
218** See above.
219
220[[WMG:The Hidden Palace Mural will come into play.]]
221Either as another sequel hook. Or the origin point to why the Echidnas wanted Sonic's power.
222
223[[WMG:Rachel is the one getting married]]
224She is shown with another man, almost as if she is getting married, meaning that she invited Maddie and Tom over at the wedding.
225* Seemingly confirmed with this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-PbLuusH44 tv spot]] showing her in a wedding dress.
226* Confirmed by the Final Trailer, which shows her in the middle of her ceremony.
227
228[[WMG:Maddie and Rachel will make amends with each other]]
229Despite at least having a sister rivalry with each other, from what was shown from the trailer, they did appear to have some high five shake, almost as if they are making amends with each other. This might imply that during Maddie’s Vacation, she and her sister, Rachel, will be trying to make amends to each other while having fun.
230
231[[WMG:Maddie and Rachel will show an AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther moment]]
232Despite her and Rachel having arguments with each other sometimes, they do at least have some care for each other at least, including with Rachel inviting Maddie to her wedding, and with the two giving each other a high-five with presumably spending time with each other.
233
234[[WMG:Rachel and Maddie will show some care for each other]]
235Well, despite Rachel having a dislike over Tom, She and Maddie do at least have no hard feelings to one another.
236
237[[WMG:Rachel will be [[TookALevelInKindness taking a level in kindness]]]]
238Despite disapproving of her sister’s husband, Tom, she does at least let her sister take her husband with her for the wedding. She will become more at least
239[[JerkWithAHeartofGold kinder]] than she was in the first film.
240
241[[WMG:Rachel will be helping Sonic take out the robots]]
242She does appear in a vehicle in the final trailer, which might be giving the possibility that she will be helping Sonic.]]
243
244[[WMG:Maddie is having Rachel make amends with Tom]]
245If one of the clips is any indication, it might be implied that Maddie is trying to have Rachel make amends with Tom.
246
247[[WMG:Crazy Carl will draw a picture of Knuckles at one point.]]
248And it will look like [[AscendedMeme Uganda Knuckles.]]
249* Jossed. Crazy Carl doesn't appear.
250
251[[WMG:The whole plot is that Robotnik tricks Knuckles into thinking Sonic is after the Master Emerald and it's his "destiny" to destroy the hedgehog who's out to take the Emerald's power for himself. Meanwhile, Sonic, knowing the man "Eggman" is, tries to prevent him from taking the Emerald.]]
252In the Big Super Bowl trailer, Sonic and Knuckles are seen battling each other in the same room as the Emerald. As the NiceGuy he is (grudge against echidnas aside), Sonic would try to warn Knuckles that Eggman is using him to stop him from stopping Eggman and has no interest in the Emerald (other than knowing how dangerous it is in the wrong hands), but [[CassandraTruth Knuckles doesn't believe him]] and insists it's his destiny to destroy Sonic and protect the Emerald. From what we saw in the first official trailer, Robotnik is seen near the Emerald, supposedly using Sonic and Knuckles' quarrel as an opportunity to steal it for himself and use it to power his giant Death Egg Robot. When Knuckles witnesses Robotnik taking the Emerald, this would cause him to realize that ''Eggman'' was the one who wanted the Emerald for himself all along and will likely go through a rough HeelRealization. Of course, Knuckles will likely take Robotnik's betrayal [[ItsPersonal personally]] and join forces with Sonic and Tails to stop him to atone his mistakes.
253
254[[WMG:The temple the Master Emerald is in will become Angel Island.]]
255
256[[WMG:Robotnik will embrace Sonic's nickname for him]]
257And thus introduces himself as Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik later on.
258
259[[WMG:Knuckles is a descendant of the Echidna Tribe]]
260It is obvious, given that Knuckles is an echidna as well, while also shown trying to presumably be guarding over the Master Emerald, including thinking that Sonic is a threat to it.
261
262* Confirmed. His late father was one of the echidna who attacked Sonic and Longclaw in the first film.
263
264[[WMG:Robotnik will try taking up being EvilMentor to Knuckles and attempt to form a VillainousFriendship with him.]]
265As part of his own CharacterDevelopment of putting more value in having friends (like bringing Agent Stone back into his fold), Robotnik may try to form a sincere friendship with Knuckles, with their team-up starting out as an EnemyMine. Robotnik will pull his weight by offering Knuckles advice and assistance whenever he can, hoping Knux will come to appreciate having him around. He'll come to hope Knuckles will later share his worldview on how humans need someone like Robotnik to rule over them and will decide to help him take over Earth.
266* Alternatively, Robotnik now appreciates ThePowerOfFriendship… because Sonic and Tom opened his mind to all the ''[[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk opportunity]]'' it can have, such as how it can help you manipulate a spiny red powerhouse into being your extra muscle.
267* Jossed. Robotnik still completely disregards the idea of friendship, and he only uses Knuckles for his own ends.
268
269[[WMG:Knuckles views his "destiny" to defeat Sonic as part of a prophecy.]]
270* The tie-in junior novel for the first movie described that the echidna tribe viewed Sonic's power as some form of world-ending disaster, hence why they went after him to steal it for themselves. Jury's out on how much of that is still canon to the film universe, but if it is, it would imply that Knuckles already spent his whole life training and preparing to defeat Sonic, with Robotnik only pointing him in the needed direction.
271
272[[WMG:Likewise, Knuckles' own backstory will be explored (possibly via flashback, jury's out as to when) to better highlight the contrasts between him and Sonic.]]
273* AsYouKnow, Sonic's childhood had him live peacefully with Longclaw until the echidna tribe caught up with them and he was forced to escape to Earth. After that, he spent the next ten years absolutely alone and inconspicuous, but still given the freedom to play and explore otherwise, but longing to one day make friends with the people of Green Hills. By contrast, Knuckles' backstory might be about how instead of being shunned or feared for his own power, the echidna tribe gave it all the attention and gravitas in the world, and made Knuckles train to be their would-be champion from a very young age, while all "distractions", such as friendship or a freedom to explore, were kept away so as to not cause him to diverge from his destiny. In short, you could describe Sonic as a peasant who was ultimately free to have some form of childhood, and eventually friends and family, while Knuckles was a prince or knight forced to grow up quickly and carry the weight of a looming responsibility on his shoulders alone.
274** Additionally, Knuckles' ignorance of Eggman's ObviouslyEvil personality will be explained as him subconsciously seeking friendship in the doctor, possibly tied in with the WMG two posts up.
275
276[[WMG:Agent Stone will be resentful towards Knuckles for all the attention Robotnik will be giving him.]]
277* No explanation needed, and Lee Majdoub's already [[https://twitter.com/leemajdoub/status/1492238304351113221?s=21 joked about it on Twitter]]. 'Nuff said, true believers.
278** Adding on to this, a RunningGag in the movie will be Agent Stone's attempts to regain Robotnik's favor be being an even bigger SycophanticServant than usual which the doctor will either be completely oblivious to or go along with it to [[ItsAllAboutMe feed his ego even more.]]
279
280[[WMG:The Space Colony ARK will appear as a FreezeFrameBonus during the Eggpod's descent to earth.]]
281
282[[WMG:The Master Emerald will initially be bigger before shrinking down to the size we see in the trailers.]]
283* In reference to its ability to seemingly change size as seen in Videogame/SonicAdventure2.
284
285[[WMG:The Tornado belongs to Crazy Carl]]
286* In the trailer, the Tornado lacks the "Sonic" branding it usually has and I doubt Tails managed to bring it with him, so Sonic and Tails will most likely "borrow" the plane for the film's climax. As to why I think Crazy Carl would own a Bi-plane? RuleOfFunny.
287
288[[WMG:Eggman will use Sonic's quill to power Metal Sonic]]
289* Adding on to this, as a nod to [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]] this will cause Metal to gain some of Sonic's personality traits (Cockiness, Competitive Steak, etc.).
290
291[[WMG:In the trailers, Knuckles is edited out of the front seat of the Tornado as Tails flies it to the Death Egg Robot]]
292Likely to avoid spoilers of Knuckles potentially going through a HeelFaceTurn and joining forces with Sonic and Tails as they race to stop Eggman and retrieve the Master Emerald powering it. It would add a layer of funny of Knuckles rolls his eyes when Sonic's cockiness gets him hit by a missile and implores Tails to get flying, knowing Sonic would catch up anyway.
293* Like the Spider-Man: No Way Home trailer: Two previous Spider-Men were edited out of the trailers to avoid spoiling fans.
294* Partially confirmed. While Knuckles is on the plane, he jumps off right before the conversation that was shown the trailer.
295
296[[WMG:Knuckles is an exile from the Echidna Tribe.]]
297Assuming the Tribe is still at large, Knuckles could have originally been a respected young warrior set for a promising future, but accidentally did something that caused him to fail in his duties which got him booted out of the tribe. He could be hunting down Sonic because he knows they were hunting Sonic down and figured capturing or killing him would help redeem himself in the eyes of his Tribe and prompt them to lift his exile.
298
299[[WMG:Sonic will leave Tails with Tom and Maddie in Hawaii to stop Robotnik by himself.]]
300As seen in the final trailer, Sonic is seen holding a supposedly-unconscious Tails while fleeing an avalanche. When Tom uses a ring to bring Sonic and Tails to safety. Like in the first movie, Sonic begs Maddie to check on Tails and care for him. While blaming himself for Tails getting hurt, he witnesses a giant green beacon in the horizon. Realizing that Robotnik has discovered the Master Emerald temple, and for Tails' safety, Sonic speeds across the ocean for the Master Emerald temple to stop Robotnik... alone.
301* This would likely cause a PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure between Sonic and Tails as the latter would be bitter towards Sonic that he left him behind so he could deal with the problem alone. But knowing this well-known duo, Tails would understand when Sonic explains why he did what he did and forgive him easily.
302* Confirmed. Though it doesn't cause a falling out between them.
303
304[[WMG:During the climax of the film, Tails will experience a DisneyDeath, leading Sonic to temporarily have a Heroic BSOD.]]
305In the final trailer when Tom and Maddie rescue Sonic, the latter looks to be in tears. Since Tails is absent in that shot, it is possible something happened to him that makes Sonic think he's dead (as a reference to one of the endings of the second game where it is implied that Tails is dead). Cue Tom and Maddie [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan giving Sonic a pep talk]] resulting in him returning to action, with Tails returning in a critical moment.
306* Confirmed. Tails is knocked unconscious during the avalanche, and Sonic insists on fighting Robotnik and Knuckles alone.
307
308[[WMG:Robotnik will pull off a YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness on Knuckles.]]
309Okay, its Eggman we're talking about. He could care less of an echidna with super strength (unless he never discovered the existence of the Master Emerald). Everything the doctor does is for the benefit of ''himself'', and while it would be unsurprising to the viewer if he pulls this off, it would catch Knuckles off guard.
310* I mean, he's all but admitted that he enjoys taking his "friends" for granted just ForTheEvulz and despite his PetTheDog moment with Agent Stone, he just saw him as his own ButtMonkey.
311* Confirmed.
312
313[[WMG:Knuckles will have a HeelRealization that Dr. Eggman was using him]]
314Despite working for Dr. Eggman on hunting down Sonic, Knuckles isn’t aware on the real purpose of Dr.Eggman’s plan, once he realizes his true plan, he will presumably betray him and team up with Sonic.
315
316[[WMG:Knuckles only says he wants to destroy the planet is because of Robotnik's manipulation.]]
317Let's face it, Knuckles is ''immensely'' gullible, which is why Robotnik was able to persuade him into joining him and achieve ultimate power for himself. Robotnik tricks Knuckles into thinking that all of the humans are a species that needs to be wiped out (to make Robotnik's mention from the first movie about his view of humanity as inferior to himself) because they're looking for the "ultimate power" for themselves, and he must help him find it so they can protect it and use it to wipe out the creatures who want it... this'll also make Knuckles a WrongGenreSavvy in light of his gullible-ness. Basically, Robotnik pulling a YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness on Knuckles would be a [[HeelRealization wake-up call]] for the latter when he realizes that ''Robotnik'' is the one who wants to ultimate power and ultimately reflects on Robotnik's lies about humanity and how selfish they are.
318
319[[WMG:Sonic and Knuckles will have a heart-to-heart.]]
320After Knuckles' potential HeelRealization upon learning of Robotnik's deceit and Sonic's failure to stop his arch-enemy from stealing the emerald, Sonic will pull off a [[DeadpanSnarker snarking]] "congratulations, you just helped a madman achieve the very ultimate power you tried to protect... hope you're satisfied, because now thanks to you, everyone in the universe is doomed" on Knuckles. When Knuckles tries to defend his actions that Robotnik said that humans were after it, Sonic could ask Knuckles an ArmorPiercingQuestion regarding everything Robotnik has said, yet the former never got to see for himself what humanity is really like.
321* Despite Sonic's loneliness in the first movie, he's seen and experienced humanity for himself while hiding. Sure, ''some'' humans are greedy, selfish, and evil (mainly Robotnik), but Sonic's made a human friend who's helped him without question and Tom was never interested in using Sonic's power, but to help him practice and harness it so he could protect himself and the universe from people like Robotnik.
322* Confirmed.
323
324[[WMG:Knuckles will have an team-up with Sonic and Tails]]
325If Knuckles realizes that Dr. Eggman was using sphim so he can cause chaos, he will [[EnemyMine team-up]] with Sonic and Tails to stop him.
326* Sonic once compares his and Knuckles' rivalry as that of Vin Dessel and The Rock in ''The Fast and the Furious'' franchise after Tails explains a faction of heroes that've been fighting each other. This could potentially be a {{Foreshadowing}} to Knuckles' possibly HeelFaceTurn, as Vin Dessel and The Rock started off as bitter rivals, until eventually, they set aside their differences when a bigger threat was upon them. Additionally, Sonic calls Knuckles the "Winter Soldier", who was evil simply because he was BrainwashedAndCrazy until the hero [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight reaches to him to turn him back to the side of good]].
327
328[[WMG:Tails will become adopted]]
329The first film ended with Sonic being adopted by Maddie and Tom, so, it may be possible that Tails will become adopted by them as well.
330* Confirmed, same with Knuckles.
331
332[[WMG:After the final battle, Robotnik will lose most of his EvilSorcerer abilities (like his levitation and teleportation), but keep his technopathy.]]
333* For future movies, it'd make sense he'd be able to build his own Eggman Empire built ''entirely'' of machines without causing a lot of head-scratchers. This would also remedy the fact that Sonic and his new friends' conflict with Robotnik is ''just'' beginning and ''far'' from over.
334
335[[WMG:The Chaos Emeralds will not appear, but have their function shared with the Master Emerald]]
336Maybe so non-Sonic fan moviegoers don't compare it with the Infinity Stones. Just like ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', they will be combined. Having the name and Knuckles' guarding like the Master, but the ability to transform Sonic in to Super Sonic like the Chaos Emeralds.
337* Unlikely, since the Chaos Emeralds are one of the most well known aspects of the series, Underground did introduce the prospect of multiple Chaos Emeralds, and the door in the icy temple has reliefs of the seven Chaos Emeralds on it. Plus, the Master Emerald has been used to turn entities Super at least four times now between Mecha Sonic in 3&K, Super Ix in Sonic and the Dark Brotherhood, Sonic the Comic's
338Sonic, and Super Neo Metal Sonic in IDW Sonic.
339
340[[WMG:Robotnik's use of the Master Emerald's power is via Negative Chaos Energy.]]
341Pretty self explanatory. Might want to throw Knuckles' use in there too. Positive Chaos and Negative Chaos were always stated to be drawn out via positive and negative emotions, intents, and mindsets respectively. The fact that the former has credence of being more passive/restorative and the latter more active/destructive in game canon (via Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Adventure, and maybe Unleashed too) certainly helps.
342
343[[WMG:There will be a sequence mentioning or featuring other worlds that will include a mention of or cameo from Planet Aries.]]
344I'm not [[VideoGame/AlexKidd kidd]]ing.
345
346[[WMG:The Tornado will end up crashing.]]
347And after Robotnik's been dealt with Tails will begin rebuilding it, maybe this time with a [[Videogame/SonicAdventure blue color scheme and some upgrades]].
348
349[[WMG:The movie will introduce Mecha Sonic after Knuckles turns on Robotnik.]]
350It will serve as the boss before the final battle against Robotnik. After Mecha Sonic and Robotnik is defeated, there will be a sequel hook with Robotnik looking at plans for Metal Sonic and the Little Planet setting up a Sonic [=CD=] themed movie.
351
352[[WMG:Knuckles was tricked in the same way his game counterpart was.]]
353In game, Knuckles was tricked to believing Robotnik's story that Sonic was behind the theft of the Master Emerald due to him being a firm believer in honesty as well as being naive to the outside world. While in this universe, the story would need to be tweaked a little since Knuckles seems to have a different goal, Robotnik could still trick him into thinking Sonic is a bad guy due to some implied past bad blood between hedgehogs and echidnas making it easy for him to believe it. This could, in turn, lead to a hilarious conversation between Sonic and Knuckles once the latter realized he's been had.
354--> '''Knuckles''': He ''lied'' to me!?\
355'''Sonic''': Wait, you weren't on board with this whole scheme? I mean, ''I'' thought it was pretty clear he was evil, so I thought you knew too, and you were evil too.
356* Jossed. Knuckles is already after Sonic before he meets Robotnik.
357
358[[WMG:GUN captures Tom and Maddie and Tails save them.]]
359In some TV Spots, Tom and Maddie are seen locked in one place. And a GUN officer points a gun at Maddie. This Organization may think that Sonic and Tails are also involved with Eggman, and that Tom and Maddie are his accomplices, so they decide to capture them. But Tails manages to save them, he explains to GUN what is really happening and they join forces to defeat Eggman.
360
361[[WMG:Maddie and Rachel will help rescue Tom, Sonic, and Tails]]
362They are shown to see Tails flying, implying that they are going to be rescuing them.
363
364[[WMG:Tails will take a blow from Knuckles to save Sonic in the snowboarding scene.]]
365As seen in the official "I Make This Look Good" clip, we see Sonic and Knuckles snowboarding and Sonic trying to evade Knuckles' blows. In the very end of the clip, Sonic gets caught off guard when Knuckles punches through a large boulder and is about to land a punch on him. In the last minute, Tails will fly in and take the blow, rendering him injured and unconscious as seen in the final trailer when Sonic makes the call to Tom to make a ring portal to safety. In the said trailer, Knuckles is nowhere to be seen and Sonic is instead tailed by an army of Badniks.
366* I don't know if this'll be an establishing moment for Sonic, Knuckles, or even both. Possibly Sonic would be demoralized that Tails risked his life to save him and Knuckles would discover that he has HiddenDepths upon processing the fact that he just [[EveryoneHasStandards mortally harmed a young fox who had nothing to do with his goal]]. Knuckles' sole focus is on Sonic, and when he hits Tails, it awakens something inside of him he never felt and begins to realize that there really is more to Sonic than Robotnik had painted him as. Especially when Knuckles sees Sonic going back to catch Tails. They both stop snowboarding as they make eye contact, and Sonic gives his rival a ''scathing'' DeathGlare, just before more Badniks arrive and Sonic flees down the mountain with an injured Tails to escape.
367
368[[WMG:Agent Stone will become [[TheStarscream The Starscream]] To Doctor Robktnik]]
369I feel like it could be a fun dynamic.
370[[/folder]]
371
372[[folder:Knuckles Spin Off]]
373
374[[WMG:The show will be like the Anime/SonicX episode [[Recap/SonicXS1E17TheAdventuresOfKnucklesAndHawk The Adventures of Knuckles and Hawk]]]]
375* The premise is about how in the end of the second movie the Master Emerald gets destroyed and Knuckles has to journey across the lands to collect the shards.
376** Jossed. The end of the second movie shows that the Master Emerald is still forged, able to be form without the Chaos Emeralds.
377* On his way he will meet up with a human who will be a {{Expy}} of Hawk from the anime who will help Knuckles with finding the shards and adapting to modern civilization.
378** Jossed. There's no shard-finding and the miniseries is about Knuckles taking on Wade as a protégé to the Echidna culture.
379* The two will be followed by a agent of ether Robotnik (most likely Agent Stone.) and his robots or a Agent of G.U.N.
380** Robotnik will most likely be TheGhost because Creator/JimCarrey is [[DeadStarWalking too big for this show]].
381* In the adventure Knuckles and his human friend will go to all kinds of places like.
382** Haunted ruins of a ancient civilization.
383** A abundant mine that's falling apart.
384** A G.U.N. base.
385** A Chao Garden.
386** The ruins of Robotnik's Death Egg Robot.
387* In the process of collecting the emeralds, Knuckles learns more of his heritage and what the emeralds can do.
388* And the entire show will be a lead up the the third movie.
389** Confirmed. Word of God has established the miniseries will be a bridge between Sonic 2 and Sonic 3.
390
391[[WMG:Rouge will debut in the show.]]
392* As a rival going for Rad Red's [[DoubleEntendre jewels]] once again, and [[FoeRomanceSubtext very aware of the effect she has on him]]. This time, however, she'll go full [[Franchise/LupinIII Fujiko]] with disguises and tricks.
393
394[[WMG:Elements and characters from Knuckles Chaotix will appear]]
395Namely Espio, Vector and Charmy.
396** The Chaotix have already made a cameo in the [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog2TheOfficialMoviePreQuill IDW comic book tie-in]] during Knuckles' story, so there's a definite chance.
397
398[[WMG:Chaos will appear as the main threat]]
399He was sealed inside the Master Emerald by the Echidnas before the Owls stole it, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero only for Sonic to accidently release him when he scattered the Chaos Emeralds]]. The series will be about Knuckles trying to track down Chaos before he destroys the planet.
400
401[[WMG:Knuckles' screentime in the second movie will be shorter than expected, so that his series makes up for it]]
402Idris Elba's casting and his awesome performance in the trailers may imply that Knuckles will be a big deal and be built up and developed in the movie. However, it is possible that they will focus on Tails and his friendship with Sonic instead, leaving the echidna to get the shorter end of the stick. To compensate for it, he will get a proper character arc in his own series.
403* Jossed as he definitely has plenty of screen time.
404
405[[WMG:The BigBad will be an expy of [[ComicBook/SonicTheComic Sonic The Comic's]] Dr Zachary.]]
406Doctor Zachary is the first example of an echidna with white fur that is a mad scientist. Doctor Zachary has expies in archie comic's has Doctor Finitevus, and Sonic and the Dark Brotherhood has Imperator Ix.
407* So, Starline?
408
409[[WMG:The show is actually a prequel]]
410Since Knuckles was able to repair the Master Emerald without problems and he seems to be happy living with the Wachowskis, I don't see any reason for him to be off on his own. Hence, the show is a prequel showing more of his travels and hunting for Sonic.
411* Most likely Jossed, as an [[https://variety.com/2022/film/news/paramount-brian-robbins-top-gun-maverick-box-office-star-trek-1235287048/ official report]] from Paramount states it's going to transition us into the third movie.
412
413[[WMG:The BigBad will be a [[TakeThat scornful]] [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed stand-in]] for Ken Penders]]
414A BigBadFriend who ends up betraying everyone he once stood by and everything he once stood for, who betrays Knuckles' trust to take everything and everyone else from him both for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own selfish gain]] and out of [[TheyWereHoldingYouBack the delusional belief that Knuckles would be better off for it]]. Being an archaeologist and/or anthropologist who studied the Echidnas optional but a bonus, as is a PornStache.
415** Alternatively, it could be a more lighthearted jab with someone named Ken being constantly disrespected or [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark hilariously dying.]]
416
417[[WMG: In the event the series ''isn't'' a prequel]]
418The story could see Knuckles being separated from Sonic, Tails, and the Wachowskis somehow. His initial goal would be to get back to them somehow, until he gets sidetracked from that due to other characters and obstacles along the way.
419
420[[WMG: Pachacamac will appear]]
421Longclaw supposedly managed to wipe out the entire Echidna tribe, but how many times has it been that something in fiction said that there were no survivors yet eventually it’s revealed there was at least one? It’s possible that he was injured to near death and reduced to a DarkLordOnLifeSupport or gained some sort of treatment to heal him, or perhaps he [[DirtyCoward used less noble tactics to survive.]]
422
423There are several possible roles he could take, either as the BigBad instigating the plot, a smaller villain, or maybe even TheAtoner seeking to make up for his brash mistakes of the past and acting as TheMentor to Knuckles.
424
425[[WMG: Amy will debut in the show]]
426It would akin to how Tails was teased in the credits scene in the first movie, except it would happen before the show finishes.
427[[/folder]]
428
429[[folder:Sonic Cinematic Universe theories]]
430
431[[WMG:Elise will reprise her role as Sonic's Safe For Work Love Interest.]]
432* Either as a more nominal damsel in distress, another connection to the mundane aspects of his life outside of Tom, Maddie, and Green Hills, or a rival and mix of herself and Blaze.
433
434[[WMG:Other possible Tv Show Spinoffs]]
435* A G.U.N. themed series in the vein of Series/AgentsOfSHIELD starring Team Dark.
436* A prequel series focusing on Robotnik.
437* A series focusing on Maddie and Rachel.
438* A Shadow series set after the events of the third film. Possibly a team-up with Rouge if she is also introduced.
439
440[[WMG:If Shadow ever appears, Commander Walters will be revealed to be a CanonCharacterAllAlong]]
441* Specifically, he is (not so surprisingly) the film series' adaptation of the G.U.N. Commander from VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog. Furthermore, his interest in Sonic will be revealed to be because it isn't the first time he's seen such power...
442** Seemingly confirmed judging by his his reaction to the discovery of Project Shadow.
443
444[[WMG:Rava, the unused Lizard warrior villainess for Sonic Movie 1, will be the Thanos of the Sonic Cinematic Universe.]]
445* A recent clip has Tails saying that two orders of heroes (presumably the Owls and Echidnas) battled each other for centuries. Rava and her kind/order were the two's common enemy until they were wiped out by the powers of Chaos (the force not the character). Leading them to fight over the Chaos and Master Emeralds until the latter was hidden on Earth by the Owls, the former were scattered/hidden, and they were brought to near extinction by the Echidnas. She's waiting in hiding for either one of the Chaos Emeralds or the Master Emerald to be found before making her move to acquire them and dominate the universe.
446* Potentially jossed since Rava appears in Marble Garden Zone in the Pre-quill Comic.
447
448[[WMG:This movie, Film/SuperMarioBros1993, Film/StreetFighter and Film/PokemonDetectivePikachu all take place in the same universe.]]
449* And all of them are build up to a potential ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' movie.
450
451[[WMG:[[Literature/StaySonic Sophocles the Owl]] will be referenced/appear]]
452* Either as the original leader of the Owl tribe or as a villain who will prey on Sonic's guilt of Longclaw's death to manipulate him.
453
454
455[[WMG:There will be a possible spin-off series of Maddie and Rachel]]
456During one of the interviews, Tika Sumpter and Natasha Rothwell were discussing the possibility of they would be a spin-off or two spin-offs of Maddie and Rachel. Which both actresses are interested in doing for Sonic the Hedgehog.
457
458[[WMG:The female G.U.N. agent who tells Commander Walters about Project Shadow is [[Anime/SonicX Topaz]].]]
459
460[[WMG:The upcoming VideoGame/StreetsOfRage movie will take place in the same universe as the Sonic movies.]]
461* To help build a Sega Cinematic Universe.
462
463[[WMG: [[VideoGame/StreetsOfRage Mr. X, Dr. Zhan,]] and Dr. Robotnik know each other.]]
464Robotnik likely got involved in the United States Military to help the Syndicate get Mr. X to become the next President of the United States. Dr. Zhan was mostly likely saved by Robotnik after his body is nearly destroyed when creating the Rakushin bomb that will later destroy Old Wookoak.
465
466[[WMG:[[VideoGame/StreetsOfRage Adam Hunter and his family]] are friends to Tom and his family through Maddie.]]
467
468Maddie's maiden name and Rachel's Last name is never brought up in canon. So there is a chance that both Maddie's maiden name and Rachel's Last Name is Hunter. It can also hint that the Hunter clan is primarily found in Woodoak City, the most dangerous city in America thanks to Mr. X and his Syndicate. If Maddie and Rachel's family couldn't make it to Hawaii, its likely that a majority of family members are living in Woodoak and cannot leave without being attacked by Gangs, dirty cops, or members of the Syndicate. Yikes!
469
470[[WMG: Tom has met [[VideoGame/StreetsOfRage Blaze Fielding]].]]
471He's good friends with her from his days of being a rookie cop, which could be the source of Rachel seeing him as untrustworthy and telling Maddie in the first movie to "check his phone for dating apps." Her paranoia could stem from the fact that Maddie is a civilian veterinarian while Fielding is a cop like Tom. It also doesn't help that Fielding is a Judo(?) expert who also is a dancer. Another reason for not trusting Tom could stem from Maddie and Rachel's experience from Mr. X's dirty cops. They may even have an estranged relationship with Adam and Sammy/Skates in Woodoak.
472
473[[WMG: Sonic, Tom, and Maddie are fans of [[VideoGame/StreetsOfRage Max Thunder]], a famous wrestler from Woodoak.]]
474For all the audience knows, the scene where Sonic is eating popcorn with Ozzy may have had a channel where Max was up for a match of the century.
475
476[[/folder]]
477[[folder:Post Release]]
478[[WMG:Robotnik has been KilledOffForReal]]
479* Not only with how he was defeated. Creator/JimCarrey has also voiced a desire to retire. Making him unlikely to come back.
480** Seemingly jossed, since Jim Carrey will be returning for ''Sonic 3''.
481
482[[WMG:Metal Sonic will appear in the third movie]]
483* If the rumors about Creator/JimCarrey retiring from acting are true, then it would be plausible for Robotnik to have activated a DeadMansSwitch to haunt Sonic from beyond the grave. And besides, [[VideoGame/SonicHeroes this isn't the first time Metal Sonic has took over for his master]].
484
485[[WMG:The big bad of the third movie will be Professor Gerald Robotnik.]]
486* He will have been killed by the government 50 years ago, but he will have programmed Shadow to carry out his plan.
487
488[[WMG:The big bad of the third movie will be Black Doom.]]
489* The design of Shadow's pod in TheStinger alludes to this.
490
491[[WMG:Agent Stone will become a DragonAscendant.]]
492If the above theory that Robotnik is dead is true and considering Stone being spotted in disguise as a GUN agent, it is possible he will become the BigBad in hopes of avenging his beloved boss.
493* To add to this, remember when Robotnik's motive is to turn organic lifeforms into machinery? Robotnik may have been severely injured to where he requires to become more machine than man himself, becoming a cyborg who needs life support. He'll likely be an off-screen GreaterScopeVillain, giving Stone plans to destroy humanity and take over the entire universe.
494
495[[WMG:Stone will eventually turn on Robotnik]]
496Assuming Robotnik is still alive, Stone will come to realize that his boss never cared about him and used him as an expendable lackey, so even if he doesn’t get involved to help Sonic, he will still betray Robotnik and use his smarts for good in the science community.
497* He may also take over if Carrey doesn’t come back for the third movie.
498
499[[WMG:Sonic 3 will take elements from both Adventure games.]]
500The Master Emerald broke... So Chaos could now be loose.
501* And as could Tikal.
502
503[[WMG:Robotnik survived the second movie.]]
504He survived by turning himself into an egg, in Sonic 3 the egg will hatch and Robotnik will emerge with a new body and voice, which will be explanation in universe of the fact a new actor is in the role if Jim Carry retires. This is based of [[ComicBook/SonicTheComic [=STC=] Robotnik]] turning into an egg to change his look. It will be explained that Robotnik had a tiny bit of Emerald power left to transform himself.
505* He didn’t have the power to do so after losing the Emerald and the crew said that they won’t miscast him.
506
507[[WMG:Amy will be the next character to join Sonic's team in the third movie.]]
508One likely scenario (slightly mirroring Tails' own story in the second film) may be that Amy lived in the same village as Tails and took notice on how he seemed lonely. But by the time Amy decided to befriend him, Tails already left for Earth. Amy then decided to follow him to Earth after some preparation (like building her iconic hammer, which can be used to explain why she didn't appear in the second film). Amy eventually finds Tails with Sonic and starts to become smitten with the latter. After Tails and Sonic explain to her what they've been doing, Amy will beg them to let her join the team and they'll agree to give her a chance to prove herself. Amy will then prove her value as a team member not just from her skill with a hammer, but with GuileHero levels of persuasion that ultimately prove essential for talking Shadow out of destroying Earth later.
509
510[[WMG:Amy will work with the government and either be a CompositeCharacter or {{Foil}} to Rouge.]]
511Which one depends on whether Rouge is AdaptedOut or not.
512
513This gives Amy a reason to be introduced without just making her TheLoad or a DamselScrappy. She's investigating both Team Sonic and Project Shadow on behalf of establishing trust between the two worlds. We eventually learn that she's [[ChaoticGood not nearly as committed to the law as it appears]] and will side with Sonic if they come to blows, which is the opposite of how Rouge turned out to be. Her feelings toward Sonic can be played in a number of ways, but most likely she would view their relationship as FoeRomanceSubtext while Sonic does not.
514** While working as a G.U.N agent she will use a crossbow as her weapon which will be a reference to ComicBook/SonicTheComic Amy the first version of Amy to use a weapon, after Amy leaves G.U.N she will swap to her hammer as her weapon.
515
516[[WMG:The Space Colony ARK will appear.]]
517Since Shadow is confirmed to exist in the movie universe, then it's likely that the place of his birth, the ARK, exists as well. In this universe, all records of its existence were erased, and only top G.U.N. and NASA officials know about it. With Shadow's awakening, however, the truth about the station's existence will be revealed...
518
519[[WMG:Sonic won't be mistaken for Shadow.]]
520The first movie already had Sonic on the run from the Government and this one had him captured, so it would just be retreading old ground plus G.U.N. is fully aware of Project Shadow's existence.
521
522[[WMG:Big the Cat will make a cameo.]]
523As a nod to his cameos in Videogame/SonicAdventure2.
524
525[[WMG:Sonic and Tails will finally [[InternalReveal find out]] about Agent Stone]]
526Despite taking down Dr. Robotnik, they do not know anything about Agent Stone nor do they know that he exists, and was helping him to take down Sonic. They will likely find out about him in Sonic the Hedgehog 3.
527
528[[WMG:Sonic will be scapegoated for Shadow.]]
529A popular theory for Videogame/SonicAdventure2 is that G.U.N knew Sonic wasnt a criminal and simply went for him to keep knowledge of Shadow hidden.
530
531It could still work like this in this continuity, as outside of Green Hills. Sonic is seen as a reckless troublemaker to those that he has "helped". Giving G.U.N even MORE reason to secure him.
532
533[[WMG:Tails was a member of this universe's version of the Freedom Fighters]]
534Tails didn't work alone to learn how to build tech, and he was monitoring the universe for a reason when he stumbled on Sonic. Tails was working with a group who care about big threats like Sonic and Knuckles' powers, which would likely be Princess Sally and her fellow Freedom Fighters under whatever name they may have. And with Tails gone alone to warn Sonic about Knuckles and later [[IChooseToStay staying with his hero]], [[SequelHook the Freedom Fighters might send a search party for him.]]
535
536[[WMG:Shadow will get his own spin off movie or show focusing on his redemption arc]]
537Something to follow and confirm his character development and redemption. Perhaps not as edgy as his own game but still.
538
539[[WMG:Characters from the IDW comics, Fleetway comics and Archie comics could appear]]
540Dr. Starline and Surge could make cool villains.
541* The Echidna Doctor Zachary was the original White fur mad scientist so he could be Knuckles arch enemy, or it could be an expy of Zachary like Dr Finitevus, Dr Starline or a completely new character.
542
543[[WMG:Blaze the Cat will exist in this universe, to simplify things]]
544She could be the monarch of another world, and Amy her handmaiden or assistant.
545
546[[WMG:A third party wiped out Longclaw and the Echidna tribe]]
547It's improbable that Longclaw could kill a whole army on her own, even while losing her life in the process. Knuckles' clan was lost because, once Longclaw was defeated and the echidnas were weak and injured, someone took the opportunity to finish the survivors off and destroy any obstacles to taking the Master Emerald for themselves.
548
549[[WMG:[[VideoGame/SonicAdventure Tikal the Echidna]] will be reimagined as Knuckles' mother.]]
550One of the echidnas who attacked Longclaw has been confirmed to be Chief Pachacamac, which means his daughter Tikal cannot be a figure from the ancient past. However, Knuckles only ever mentions his father, so it is likely Tikal passed away when Knuckles was very young.
551
552[[WMG: Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles each have pieces of the [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Triforce]] that they obtain power from.]]
553* Sonic has the Triforce of Power. For better or worse, Sonic’s entire life has been defined by his power. Longclaw was killed, he was forced to live in isolation, and pursed by Robotnik because of his power. At the end of the second film, he obtains the Master Emerald, the highest form of power. However, he is impulsive and lived in isolation in fear of losing loved ones, meaning he lacks wisdom or courage, at least at the start of the first film. He later gains those traits by opening up to others and using his powers more prudently in the first and second film.
554* Tails has the Triforce of Wisdom. He is the smartest of the three, making advanced inventions and being the most rational. His use of technology is shared with Zelda as shown in VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild. He is also the most feminine, putting him closer to Zelda. However, he is shy and is physically the weakest, meaning he initially lacks courage or power.
555* Knuckles has the Triforce of Courage. He has been seeking revenge since a presumably young age and has trained the most, reflecting how most Links rely on preparation and superior skill to defeat their enemies. When he was given a chance by Robotnik, he grabbed it by the throat. However he was tricked by Robotnik and was unable to move on from the extinction of his tribe, meaning he lacks wisdom or power.
556
557[[WMG:Releasing one's Chaos energy is a PubertySuperpower for Mobians.]]
558Lighting up with blue electricity came as a surprise to Sonic in the last movie, when he was around 13-14 years old. Sonic and Knuckles use Chaos Energy on command, but not eight year-old Tails, whose eyes don't so much as glow once.
559[[/folder]]
560
561[[folder:Sequel Theories]]
562[[WMG:Here is how the Third Sonic movie will be.]]
563It will start with Agent Stone braking into the G.U.N. Base to retrieve Shadow. Shadow will spend the movie framing Sonic for various crimes until G.U.N. puts Sonic in a prison cell. Sonic agrees to go in order to clear his name. Agent Stone and Shadow meet ether Rouge The Bat or Amy Rose and they invite her to the team in return she helps get them the Master Emerald. Later as Sonic’s team brake Sonic out of the G.U.N. Base it’s revealed that it’s actually The Space Colony ARK and it goes off into space with everyone in it.
564As the ARK heads into Space Tails learns more about Shadows past until everyone meats in the main room for one big fight. Eventually Shadow wins and Agent Stone heads into the engine room to place all the emeralds in The ARK with Shadow next to him. As the Emeralds fully power the eclipse cannon Shadow reveals his true intentions and a video of Robotnik (who is dead) tells everyone of how humanity ruined his life, Killed his family, killed him, and how he perfected Shadow to be his DeadMansSwitch for when he dies and kill everyone. Shadow reveals to everyone of how Maria died as well. Later Sonic and his team try to stop the cannon from going off while Amy/Rouge tells Shadow of how inpatient life truly is and how Maria wouldn’t want this.
565Shadow understands and heads off to stop the cannon with the team who find The Master Emerald graded by a crazy amount of security. When they get the Emerald they learn they that Robotnik programed the ARK to crash into the earth. Stone and Tails tries to stop it but finds that they can’t get past the fire wall in time. So Sonic and Shadow go in there Super Forms to stop the ARK and save the day. Shadow makes a HeroicSacrifice and everyone lives peacefully. Until the end where we see a glimpse of Shadow surviving and a new threat coming to earth.
566* I only saying that it would be ether Amy or Rouge because haven’t the two would be too many new characters and we already need Shadow to have some development.
567
568[[WMG:Sonic and Tails have a PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure in movie 3.]]
569Giving Tails some character development and a way to step out and be a hero in his own right, similar to how he felt in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' but as a result of a spat instead of simply wanting to prove himself. His hero worship in ''Sonic 2'' was too unwavering and is open to coming to a bit of a BrokenPedestal moment in a future installment.
570
571[[WMG:The Chaos Emeralds will be {{Plot Coupon}}s in the third movie.]]
572Sonic scattered the Chaos Emeralds so the Master Emerald wouldn't have its RealityWarper powers, but they're still powerful in their own right. With Shadow awakened, he'll set out to collect them to power the [[KillSat Eclipse Cannon]], forcing Sonic and the others to race and collect the Emeralds before Shadow can.
573
574[[WMG:In Sonic the Hedgehog 3, Metal Sonic will be the true final villain and not Shadow.]]
575Also, the confrontation will start and end with Little Planet being involved.
576
577[[WMG:In Sonic the Hedgehog 3, the Space Colony Ark isn't the space station from Sonic Adventure 2, but an bad-future, enslaved Little Planet that Gerald and his collegues conquered for the USSR during the Cold War.]]
578If Sonic CD's plot gets roped into this, then that means Space Colony Ark is on Little Planet and has enslaved it under the powers of the Soviet Union. After Robotnik successfully reaches Little Planet, Gerald's recorded final moments will play before Little Planet crashes into Earth. Shadow may sacrifice himself to save Earth from Little Planet crashing into its orbit. It can also hint that Robotnik's family was involved in the Space Race in the 1960s before Gerald was captured and Maria was killed.
579
580[[WMG:Robotnik's family was executed because of their involvement with the USSR in the Cold War.]]
581Seriously! Doctor IVO Robotnik? He may have Russian ancestry, which could hint at his family's involvement with the USSR. Besides, Maria may have been killed because her family was condemned as Russian spies even if she wasn't a threat (She was 12 years when she was killed on the Ark). Robotnik survived the onslaught because someone managed to hide his family ties until the events of the second movie.
582
583[[WMG: Shadow was created by the Soviets to destroy the United States.]]
584As the Ultimate Lifeform, this would not be out of place for the Cold War. This may be the reason why the U.S. army was sent to capture Gerald and kill everyone involved with Space Colony Ark. If the U.S. Army was able to capture Shadow and hide him, then it would explain why the coordinates to his location were in Robotnik's files. Robotnik was looking into his family's past involvement with the Cold War and what the Government was going to use Shadow for.
585
586[[WMG:Either Amy or Rouge will appear in the third film]]
587This film introduced both Knuckles and Tails (the first movie's credits scene aside), so it's not that crazy to suggest that the third film may introduce more characters from the games besides Shadow.
588
589[[WMG:Gerald Robotnik will be a VirtualGhost.]]
590Professor Robotnik won't have left his revenge to chance. When Shadow awakens from stasis, he'll have a small device on his person that lets him speak with an A.I. of Gerald Robotnik after he'd gone insane. A.I. Robotnik will be guiding Shadow towards his goal to destroy Earth for what happened to Maria, be it the [[KillSat Eclipse Cannon]], the [[FlawedPrototype Biolizard]], or [[ColonyDrop crashing the Ark]].
591
592[[WMG:Black Doom will be the main antagonist of the third film.]]
593Jim Carrey has expressed his desire to retire from acting, and with Robotnik's whereabouts unconfirmed and Shadow in TheStinger, it's possible the Black Arms will appear and take up the role of main villain.
594
595[[WMG:Tails will be [[{{Retcon}} Retconned]] to be a native of the same planet as Sonic and Knuckles]]
596While it's implied that Tails is from a separate planet, it wouldn't be too hard to establish that he, Sonic, and Knuckles are all from the same planet. If they want to be consistent, they can just show Tails' parents or guardians bringing him to whatever other planet he was on before going to Earth.
597
598[[WMG:Shadow will rely more on [[PowersDoTheFighting his Chaos powers]].]]
599To make Shadow stand out between [[SuperSpeed Sonic]] and [[SuperStrength Knuckles]], Shadow will use his innate Chaos powers the most in long ranged abilities like Chaos Spear and Chaos Blast, making him the "mage" in a FighterMageThief dynamic with the other two.
600
601[[WMG:Shadow will still [[CallingYourAttacks call out his attack names]].]]
602Like in the games, Shadow will call out the Chaos moves he is using at the time. Expect Sonic to rib him over doing something so cheesy. In the end, if Sonic ends up learning Chaos Control like he did in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'', expect him to try everything to call on the power to no avail... until he tries shouting "Chaos Control!" himself.
603
604[[WMG:Maria Robotnik will appear both in flashback and as an VirtualGhost.]]
605The movie will open with Maria’s murder and Shadow being placed into stasis, establishing his motive for wanting revenge on humanity after he awakens. Later on, Shadow will discover an AI construct of Maria that she created before her death, encouraging Shadow to live on and not succumb to revenge like her grandfather wanted, thus setting the foundation for his HeelFaceTurn in the climax.
606
607[[WMG:Instead of G.U.N., the CIA will be behind the raid on Space Colony ARK.]]
608Particularly under the tenure of UsefulNotes/RichardNixon. Already crumbling from the aftermath of Watergate, Nixon would not only believe that Project Shadow is a threat to mankind, but that Gerald Robotnik is secretly in cahoots with the Soviet Union. So he sends a team of CIA agents to the ARK to kill everyone involved. With Maria Robotnik being one of the victims. Upon learning of his role in Maria's death, Shadow would want to hunt down the former president to avenge her, only to be infuriated when he finds out Nixon has already been dead for 30 years.
609
610[[WMG:Black Doom's role will be fulfilled by the Echidnas.]]
611Why? Aliens have already came to Earth to stow away the Master Emerald (and the Chaos Emeralds inside). It only makes sense the Echidnas may have came by Earth looking for the Master Emerald, but left without finding it for whatever reason - but not before teaming up with Gerald Robotnik to create an Echidna supersoldier that can harness the power of the emeralds, which happens to use the image of a creature they already know has some sort of innate chaos energy. This would explain why Shadow happens to be proficient with the emeralds almost naturally, keep Longclaw and the Echidna rivalry relevant, and would give a reason for Stone/Eggman to wake him up - not only is it old family history, but a creature that cannot only keep up with Sonic but can also harness the power of the Chaos Emeralds would be a great asset.
612
613[[WMG:An original character will "become" Black Doom to fill his role.]]
61450 years ago, a Mobian came to Earth and partnered up with Gerald Robotnik to research genetics. The partner donated his DNA to create Shadow, explaining why the "ultimate lifeform" looks like a Mobian hedgehog of all things. Gerald eventually learned his partner had ulterior motives, and the enraged professor confronted him, ending in a FreakLabAccident the traitor appeared to have died in. The Mobian secretly escaped but his body was horrifically mutated, now looking closer to Black Doom's design. He uses the next decades to plot his revenge.
615
616[[WMG:Shadow will show both character portrayals as a form of CharacterDevelopment turned CharacterRerailment.]]
617A widely controversial point in the fandom is how in the original Sonic Adventures game Shadow was portrayed as a tragic and sympathetic antihero while the Shadow the Hedgehog game turned him into a complete edgelord jerkass. The sequel movie could address this by having him start as the latter, before growing into the former as he realizes the value of compassion and fighting for what's for the greater good.
618
619[[WMG:What meme will be referenced in the third movie?]]
620Since the first movie used the Sanic meme and the second had "Do you know da wae?", I don't think it's that much of a stretch to guess that a meme will get referenced. As for what could be used.
621* "Where's that damn fourth Chaos Emerald?" Easily the most famous Shadow meme.
622* "I'm the coolest!" Another popular Shadow line.
623* "You're not even good enough to be my f—" "I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS!" Sonic cutting him off might even piss Shadow off.
624* Shadow [[WebVideo/RealTimeFandub pees in a Hot Topic]], but this being a family friendly movie, he'll probably just use the bathroom. Or at least, it won't be shown. Either way, he will think this makes him the Hot Topic's new owner.
625** Related to the above, Robotnik makes a (PG) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLBL4M55tJU announcement on Twitter]].
626** Rouge is implied to be a stoner.
627** Shadow comes to really, really, really like hot sauce and starts putting it on everything he eats.
628** Something very significant happened in 1907, which one character will say as "nineteen-aught-seven".
629** If Black Doom is in the movie, a character will mistake him for the Devil.
630* Semi-Sonic meme: Tails will develop [[Music/{{Ylvis}} Vulpine]] [[HollywoodTourettes Tourette's]], with the poor lad suddenly bellowing strings of nonsense at inopportune moments, and the A-plot will be the search for a treatment.
631* Someone will say that they need to "FIND THE COMPUTER ROOM!"
632* Shadow will refuse to use guns, not just because of how they were used against Maria, but also because he prefers to beat his enemies with his bare hands.
633* Robotnik will declare "You know what they say, the more the merrier!"
634* Sonic will yell "OW THE EDGE!" after hearing Shadow's backstory.
635* Someone will start WaxingLyrical to "City Escape".
636
637[[WMG: If Jim Carrey retires, the future movies will focus on Robotnik’s VillainousLegacy]]
638The end of the second movie leaves his fate ambiguous, so having him be KilledOffForReal would be simple. Even then, though, he’ll have a major influence on future movies. Shadow being uncovered and awakening is only one example of the impact he’ll leave behind. Other possibilities are Agent Stone trying to live up to his legacy as a DragonAscendant, both GUN, Stone, and possibly other factions struggling to recover and control any technology he left behind. And then of course his robots might be ready to take over for Eggman on their own, such as a certain metallic duplicate of Sonic.
639** Alternatively, Eggette will appear as the new main villain in future movies, being portrayed as basically a young gifted mechanical genius who happened to idolize Robotnik and sought replicate his genius in her own way.
640** Robotnik will have uploaded a copy of his mind into a robot creating the movie version of Commander Brutus.
641** Sage could also possibly come into play and she'll be angry at Sonic for killing her "father".
642** Stone himself will become Robotnik's outright successor in order to "fill the void", as in the Archie comics.
643** Robotnik in the comics survived death through uploading his mind to a satellite, and later downloading it into a new robot body that was later turned to flesh and blood, with this new appearace being Robotnik's current appearance in games. Or he could have/will transfer his mind to Agent Stone's body in the third movie.
644
645[[WMG:Shadow will not have his ''Adventure 2'' backstory.]]
646While he'll keep elements of his backstory, like his connection to G.U.N and Gerald Robotnik, his backstory will be drastically altered, with stuff like Maria getting shot getting cut out due to it being too dark for a family film. After all, it's clear the films are doing their own thing in regards to the characters and their backstories, so it wouldn't surprise me if they changed aspects of his backstory too. Maybe have his hatred for humanity stem from him being tested and used as a weapon as opposed to Maria being shot.
647** Alternatively, Maria could be aged up from 12 or introduced as being alive in the present day to be used to redeem Shadow.
648*** Given that Shadow's coordinates were found through Robotnik's namesake, it's very likely Gerald will be present in some capacity.
649
650[[WMG:Assuming Robotnik survived the crash, he'll end up being fat in the third movie.]]
651A few possible ways:
652* He becomes a lot more sedentary and eats nothing but junk food to the point of obesity. Either from depression due to his failure or because his injuries from the crash were so severe he had to take a long time to heal, or both.
653* Right before the robot crashed, Agent Stone used some sort of technology on him that increases his body fat to cushion his fall, and he ended up stuck like that.
654
655[[WMG:The Biolizard will be the BigBad of the third movie]]
656The thing will have AdaptationalIntelligence and be fully aware of its role in Gerald Robotnik's [[OmnicidalManiac plan]], pushing Shadow [[ManipulativeBastard further into misanthropy]] both out of loyalty to its purpose and [[BetaTestBaddie a desire to see the successful experiment die]].
657
658[[WMG:Agent Stone will [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 drive the GUN truck]] at some point.]]
659Presumably during the final confrontation with him, he'll [[VillainousBreakdown lose it completely]] and rampage through the city in the notorious semi - with everyone [[LampshadeHanging commenting]] on how much destruction the military vehicle is causing to civilians.
660
661[[WMG:Shadow, despite claiming to be the ultimate life form, will lose his powers somehow]]
662
663[[WMG:Tom Wachowski will convince Shadow to perform a HeelFaceTurn]]
664Tom will eventually learn why Shadow wants revenge on humanity, having lost his closest friend, Maria, and being influenced by Gerald to follow through with destroying mankind. Given his role as the TeamDad to Sonic and his friends in the films, Tom will try to reach through to Shadow reminding him of the promise Shadow made with Maria to protect humanity no matter what, causing Shadow to break free from Gerald's influence, pull a HeelFaceTurn, and help Sonic save humanity.
665
666[[WMG: Shadow will discover and enjoy rock music.]]
667There'll be a small scene of Shadow overhearing rock music or a subgenre, and enjoying it; tapping his toe, maybe even a little headbanging. Not only would it be a MythologyGag to the music from the games he'd been in, it would also be the first humanizing moment for him in the film, showing Sonic and the others the UltimateLifeform is, in fact, a person.
668
669[[WMG:Amy's character arc will be about taking a level in badass.]]
670Building on her tarot reading from older games, Amy is training to be an oracle, and Mobius/Little Planet already reveres her [[{{Seers}} predictions]] and {{psychometry}}. She likely has a higher status, like chief's daughter or aristocrat. However, she isn't allowed to train as a fighter as she wishes. (Not due to StayInTheKitchen, but because her peers consider her powers so valuable that they need all her dedication.) When Amy is roped into Team Sonic's adventure, her powers are very useful to them, but she also gets the chance to use her iconic hammer to ''great'' capacity.
671
672[[WMG: If Amy appears in the third movie, Tom and Maddie will have different reactions to her crush on Sonic.]]
673Just because it would be humorous, one of them becomes a complete ShipperOnDeck for the two, telling Amy some of Sonic's interests that she might not have known about while the other goes full overprotective parent, telling Amy to stay away from Sonic.
674
675[[WMG: Additionally, or alternatively, Tom and Maddie will have similar reactions when they realise Knuckles has a crush on Rouge]]
676Maddie tries to get Knuckles to embrace his feelings for Rouge, mentioning that Tom had similar insecurities when they first met, while Tom fears that Rouge would just take advantage of Knuckles to get what she wants. Tom is seemingly proven right when Rouge steals from or betrays the heroes, leaving Knuckles heartbroken, but Tom is also the first to trust Rouge again when she returns and has a HeelFaceTurn.
677
678[[WMG:Amy will be immune to Knuckles' CrushingHandshake]]
679Amy having bouts of super strength is a running gag in the mainstream universe. Bonus points if she crushes the Echidna's hand right back.
680
681[[WMG: Live and Learn will be used.]]
682Either the original song by Crush 40 or a cover, this song is practically Iconic to Sonic and Shadow.
683
684[[WMG: Shadow will ultimately side with the heroes in the third film, but will still go off on his own at the end]]
685While he no longer considers Sonic and the others to be enemies or obstacles, Shadow still feels that his inner turmoil is better confronted alone. Nevertheless, he is assured by the others that he'll be welcomed back with open arms should he return.
686
687[[WMG: Racheal and Randall will have moved to Green Hills by the time of the third movie.]]
688I imagine even if G.U.N. no longer believes Sonic is a threat they will still want someone to keep an eye on him.
689
690[[WMG: Team Dark will be the initial adversaries in the third film, being manipulated by the larger threat of the Black Arms.]]
691Given that the running animal characters in this continuity are established as being essentially aliens, my guess is that Shadow’s backstory will cut out the ARK entirely and depict him as a crashed Black Arms scout that humans discovered and Professor Gerald potentially developed affection for. Agent Stone will set Shadow free in a big tribute to the beginning of the [=SA2=] Dark Story opening and Rouge is an alien bounty hunter working for the Black Arms, tasked with some combination of finding Shadow, the chaos emeralds, or just another planet to conquer. Most to all of the group will pull a HeelFaceTurn by the end of the film.
692
693[[WMG:Team Sonic will return to Mobius.]]
694The heart of this series is Sonic's ComingOfAgeStory, and learning about one's roots is an important step in becoming an adult. When the third movie's adventure demands that Sonic and his family go to Mobius, he will explore his native world and get the chance to properly mourn Longclaw. By the ending, Sonic will have embraced his identity as a ChildOfTwoWorlds and chosen to split his time between Earth and Mobius.
695
696[[WMG: Provided Robotnik does return he'll officially take up the name Eggman.]]
697As a nod to how the Eggman name started being used in the west during the Adventure Era. Likewise the Eggman Empire will be officially formed.
698
699[[WMG:Shadow's introduction will involve PlayingPossum.]]
700TheStinger implies he's already awake inside his pod. When G.U.N. releases him, Shadow will have already gotten free of his restraints and attack them.
701
702[[WMG:Stone will become [[Anime/SonicX Topaz]]'s equivalent.]]
703What is topaz? A stone. Having infiltrated G.U.N., Stone will develop an unlikely friendship with the mercenary they just hired, Rouge the Bat. If Robotnik is still around, Stone's equal partnership with Rouge will help him realize being the mad scientist's stooge isn't worth the disrespect, inspiring him to finally wash his hands of Robotnik.
704
705[[WMG:Robotnik will try and fail to manipulate Shadow.]]
706Robotnik's manipulation of Knuckles technically went off without a hitch, so he will assume Shadow is another lower life form he can lead by the nose. Shadow, however, is all too familiar with human treachery and will turn the tables on Eggman.
707
708[[WMG:Team Sonic will run low/out of rings.]]
709Sonic's pouch is not bottomless, and having fewer chances to portal jump would make for drama. This can also lead to going to another planet to get more.
710
711[[WMG:In universe, someone will release a videogame of Sonic (and the gang) and he will be able to play it.]]
712Enough people should be aware of the existence of Sonic and his new buddies by the time of the next sequel. This can be an endearing call-out to the videogames themselves, should the studios consider doing this.
713
714* So you're saying that [[AudioPlay/SonicDestruction the video game is non-fiction, and that they're playing through real life?]]
715
716[[WMG: Stone will get his own food related nickname from Sonic and to complement Eggman]]
717Most likely something coffee related, like Mr. Latte or Coffee Creep.
718
719[[WMG:Blaze and Silver will make a surprise appearance.]]
720The closing scene of the third movie will revealed Blaze and Silver have been secretly watching the adventure unfold, and one moment where the heroes got a seemingly random stroke of good luck was thanks to the duo's interference. They agree the mission is a success and return to their time.
721
722[[WMG:[[PhysicalGod Chaos]] will be used in place of [[KillSat the Eclipse Cannon]]]]
723Although the third movie will takes inspiration from ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'', Space Colony ARK will be cut to simplify the story. Shadow's plan to destroy humanity will instead be summoning the Mobian god Chaos to drown the Earth.
724* The final "battle" will play out similar to the climax from ''WesternAnimation/{{Moana}}'': Instead of properly fighting Chaos, Super Sonic and Super Shadow use their power to restrain the god's attacks until they can calm it down. As Chaos is a good allegory for Shadow's unfocused rage, this solution symbolizes using empathy to heal inner pain instead of violence.
725
726[[WMG:One scene of the sequel will take place on the Golden Gate Bridge]]
727And it will involve Shadow having to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LzZC-VvP9c break through the besieging military]].
728
729[[WMG:If Black Doom makes an appearance, he'll be just as much of a CompleteMonster as he was in ''Shadow'' to contrast [[LaughablyEvil Robotnik]].]]
730
731[[WMG:Tails’ FearOfThunder will show up in the third movie.]]
732Lightning will strike, and he will instinctively cuddle up against Sonic or Knuckles. It will be [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments hilarious]] and [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments adorable.]]
733
734[[WMG: A Wachowski was involved in the ARK incident, and Shadow will learn of this and try to enact revenge against the family.]]
735Maddie makes mention of there having been a Wachowski protecting Green Hills for 50 years early on in the movie. Assuming Shadow's story stays the same, it's possible that the first Wachowski to come to the town was involved in the ARK incident, and might've even been the soldier that killed Maria. They then left the government and moved to Green Hills to start anew as an officer there. This would also give Shadow another reason to target Sonic and co. outside of Robotnik's potential influence, as he'd likely want to make them the first targets of his revenge against humanity thanks to a member of the family having a direct involvement is his friend's death.
736* Bonus points if the soldier that killed Maria was in fact Tom's father/grandfather who would also be portrayed by Creator/JamesMarsden. Shadow would catch a glimpse of his face just before being sent down to Earth. Cue to the present day, he sees Tom who bares a strong resemblance to the soldier who shot Maria and thus attack the family.
737* Just an alternative I thought of; Maddie and Rachel's father or grandfather (given the timeframe, either could be possible) could've been present, also possibly as the soldier who killed Maria. This would make things interesting if Shadow were to interact with Jojo, as she's an innocent young girl.
738
739[[WMG: If Robotnik does return, he'll actually team up with Sonic and his friends against a larger threat.]]
740Likely driven by a desire to [[EvilVersusOblivion prevent the enemy from the destroying what he seeks to conquer]] or [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou Because he thinks he should be the only one who kills Sonic off]], Robotnik will assist Sonic however he can against whoever the antagonist of the third movie will be. [[TeethClenchedTeamwork Neither of them will be really happy with the truce]] and they both may engage in a fair amount of [[SnarkToSnarkCombat snarky banter]] as a means to cope with the situation. If Robotnik [[TookALevelInKindness actually becomes more affable in the third movie]], he may surprise himself with how he gradually starts getting along with Team Sonic and reflect on how different his life would've been different if he allowed more people into his life. Robotnik may take this fondness toward his new "friends" to its extreme and pull a HeroicSacrifice to help assure Sonic has a chance at winning in the end.
741[[WMG: If Robotnik survives, we'll discover that he actually enjoys his battles with Sonic.]]
742And while they still are enemies, and his goal remains unchanged, at least he have to admit that he had a time of his life trying to beat his archnemesis. They can even estabilish FriendlyEnemy and/or WorthyOpponent dynamic at the end of the movie.
743[[WMG: If Mobius is brought up, there will be a TakeThat toward [[Film/Morbius2022 Morbius.]]]]
744Tails or someone else will tell Sonic that they are from Mobius, and [[DeadpanSnarker Sonic]] will say something along the lines of “Like that terrible movie with Jared Leto?”
745[[WMG: Maddie will be pregnant during third movie.]]
746With Sonic affraid that now Tom and Maddie will not have time for him or love him as much. But eventually he will realize that Tom and Maddie are his family no metter what and at the end of the movie, he will fully embrace idea of beign big brother.
747[[WMG: GUN will not be antagonistic in the third movie.]]
748For a few reasons:
749* GUN currently seems to be on semi-good terms with the Wachowskis, with an agent in the family and letting the alien kids live free. (though this could be because trying to contain them would be BullyingADragon because of the Master Emerald.)
750* Walters appears to be very concerned about Project Shadow, and has proven he will stop antagonizing Team Sonic if a larger threat shows up.
751* There is no reason for GUN to believe that Sonic is Shadow, given his existence isn’t a secret among secrets given Walters’ reaction, and they could contact Tom or Randall on Sonic’s whereabouts.
752[[WMG: The third film will be a LighterAndSofter WholePlotReference to {{Manga/AKIRA}}]]
753* The Capsules and Espers will both be represented by Sonic, (Kaneda/Masaru) Tails, (Kei/Kiyoko) and Knuckles, (Yamagata/Takashi, though Knux will likely survive) being the primary heroic group who also have powers of their own.
754* Tetsuo will be represented by Shadow and Eggman with Shadow having Tetsuo’s nobler qualities (tragic backstory, relationship with hero, and MoralityPet) and Eggman having his villainous ones. (megalomania and lust for power)
755* Kei will be represented by Amy, though she will have the crush rather than the other way around. She will also fill Kaori’s role as Shadow slowly starts to care for her, though she will too likely survive.
756* Kitsurugi will be represented by by both Tom (Most prominent adult and caretaker for Team Sonic/Espers) and Walters. (Morally ambiguous government official)
757* The titular Akira will be represented by the Master Emerald.
758* Shadow, thirsty for vengeance after Maria’s death, will be found and manipulated by Eggman into helping him destroy the world, with Eggman nearly having had lost his mind and wanting to do so to spite Sonic. Near the end, they have the Master Emerald, but Shadow is talked out of his plan by Amy. After realizing just how Eggman has been using him, Shadow destroys all his robots and mocking him, before Sonic and the others corner Eggman. Eggman, having had hid the Master Emerald on his person, [[VillainousBreakdown fully snaps, using the scarp metal to become a giant mechanical blob.]] In his fury, he mindlessly nearly kills Sonic, but ignores Shadow, Tails, and Knuckles stealing the emerald and becoming super themselves, with Shadow and Knuckles catching Eggman’s attention while Tails recuses Sonic, heals him from near death and promoting him to super. The four then finish Eggman by combining their energy and creating a blast resembling the one that Tetsuo was consumed by at the end of the film.
759
760[[WMG:Sonic will start learning how to swim]]
761There will be comedic scene where Sonic arms himself with a lifejacket and/or inner tube and tries to swim, which is mostly him flopping around inelegantly.
762
763[[WMG:What will Robotnik dance to next?]]
764With the first movie having ''Where Evil Grows'' and this one having ''[[Music/{{Pantera}} Walk]]'', they're clearly setting a trend of Robotnik listening to music.
765* Something from Music/MichaelJackson, so [[MythologyGag Sonic 3 can once again have music written by him]].
766** ''Bad'' - Robotnik certainly doesn't hide his villainy.
767** ''Smooth Criminal'' - Maybe he could listen to it while stealing a Chaos Emerald from G.U.N. like [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2014 Starlord]].
768* ''I Am the Walrus'' - Doubles as a MythologyGag and ActorAllusion.
769
770[[WMG: Rouge will act as a gun side Double Agent]]
771* So like her [=SA2=] counterpart she works with gun at their direction. She knows of project Shadow in some form being from an off-world agency that worked with G.U.N. to stop Shadow, but wasn't yet a member at the time this happened. So while her goal in some ways may align with Sonic teams, this new release of Shadow opens a possibility of digging up secrets of project Shadow with his release.So one second she can be guiding the team along the next she might be stealing the emerald to unlock another secret without a word. And why wasn't she there in 1 and 2? She was off-world and G.U.N. finally called in a favor with the agency she is with.
772** Alternatively, she is a DoubleReverseQuadrupleAgent whose loyalty will seemingly shift constantly until the very end, where she will reveal her master: [[VideoGame/MetalGear Big Boss.]]
773
774[[WMG: Metal Sonic, like Knuckles, will be the second new character introduced, like Knuckles was for the second movie, and will also be the BigBad.]]
775Knuckles wasn't revealed in TheStinger for the first movie, so Metal Sonic is still plausible. He could be a weapon created by Dr. Eggman or Agent Stone after Shadow refuses to help him, only to be [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope consumed with his want to destroy Sonic]]. This would eventually result in him trying to [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill destroy the Earth just to kill Sonic]], with Shadow and Sonic working together to stop him. In this way, Metal becomes a CompositeCharacter with the Biolizard.
776
777[[WMG:Tails will be seen caring for [[Anime/SonicX a potted plant.]]]]
778Sonic will jokingly ask [[CrossesTheLineTwice if he loves the plant so much, then why doesn’t he marry it.]]
779
780[[WMG:The Black Arms will be a Mobius-based cult]]
781Mobians are the aliens in this universe, and their lore has yet to be fully explored. A second alien race would be excessive. Instead, the Black Arms are Mobians that seek the power of the Chaos Emeralds, making them a danger to both Mobius and Earth. Shadow was created to serve as the cult's messiah-esque figurehead.
782
783[[WMG:[[AdaptationRelationshipOverhaul Sonic will have the crush on Amy]]]]
784Amy follows her fortunetelling talents to Earth, looking for a golden hedgehog with godly powers. Instead, she finds a blue goofball. Sonic, however, has no experience with his own species, let alone a girl one, and it leaves him flustered. Amy eventually sees what a good guy Sonic is, and develops feelings for him as the adventure goes on.
785
786* '''Addendum:''' "The boys discover girls" will be a subplot of the film. Sonic's attraction to Amy is complicated by a mistaken expectation that he'll soon end up having to marry her (going by his previous experiences with relationships around him), which he is of course not ready for. By the end of the film, Sonic will learn that he is still young, and he and Amy can take as long as they are comfortable with (once Sonic gets a handle on things, he returns to his old confident self). Amy departs with a kiss and a promise to see him again.
787** Knuckles of course has to deal with Rouge, whom is a rival to Amy here. They have the same goals, but Rouge has chosen to achieve it by working closely with Shadow, GUN, and/or Robotnik. Their relationship is either BelligerentSexualTension or FoeRomanceSubtext, and/or a possible LoveTriangle with Shadow. The rivalry could even lead to a PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure turning into dueling {{Battle Couple}}s: Sonic/Amy vs Knuckles/Rouge.
788** Tails gets paired up with Cream (possibility of making Cream a CompositeCharacter with Marine, to give them common ground), which is mostly just them being adorable together, with maybe a little ShipTease.
789** And for additional comedy relief, A bonus couple: awkward flirtation (one way or mutual) with Wade and Vanilla.
790
791[[WMG:Amy's bangles will be for {{Hammerspace}}.]]
792When characters in the games wear large gold rings, they are only (if ever) explained as {{Power Limiter}}s. In the movies, everyone uses rings for portals. Amy's bangles can be a similar but separate kind of rings, which she uses to access her tarot cards and piko piko hammer at a moment's notice. If FridgeBrilliance is added, Amy's left bangle can summon the deck (left side of brain = logic), and the right the hammer (right side of brain = action).
793
794[[WMG:Amy will be introduced breaking Sonic out of GUN's prison.]]
795Either that, or Amy will be a fellow prisoner there, having been captured and studied for her powers sometime between films. The two of them will stage a prison break similar to Sonic's escape in ''Adventure 2'', only they'll fight their way out together.
796
797[[WMG:Shadow's infamous "edgelord" reputation will be both [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] and [[{{Reconstruction}} Reconstructed]]]]
798At first Sonic will mock it by referring to him by nicknames like "Hot Topic" and "Your Edgy-ness". But after learning Shadow's backstory (especially the part where Maria, the only friend he ever had, was killed in front of him by the same people who had ordered his creation in the first place), Sonic will be much more sympathetic towards him, reasoning that such an experience would understandably turn anyone sour.
799
800[[WMG: The Badniks will take on their more cartoonish design compared to the EverythingIsAnIpodInTheFuture look of the last two movies.]]
801* The short ''Sonic Drone Home'' could be {{Foreshadow}}ing to how the third movie and beyond will be taking on their more classic looks to punctuate Eggman's increasing eccentricity or even signs of SanitySlippage. Alternatively if Jim Carrey does retire, a LegacyCharacter will take the doctor's place, adopting their their name for their own, and add their own spin using more animal designs inspired by Sonic as being the one who beat the original Eggman.
802
803[[WMG:G.U.N. will work ''for'' Shadow.]]
804Shadow essentially holds Commander Walters and any other head honchos hostage after a show of the hedgehog's power makes it clear how easily he can kill them. He still plans covert ways to call Team Sonic for help.
805
806[[WMG:Amy, Cream and Rouge will form Team Jubilee]]
807They may as well, as Team Sonic's feminine equivalent. Rouge jumping from Team Dark to another trio establishes her WildCard nature.
808
809[[WMG:Sonic and Shadow will fight in BulletTime.]]
810Sonic moving so fast that the world is in slo-mo has happened once per movie, but the third time will have a twist. Sonic will come at Shadow at top speed, only for the black hedgehog to match it, and Team Sonic aren't fast enough to help. This establishes Shadow is in a class above past foes Sonic has run circles around.
811
812[[WMG:Cream's movie incarnation will take cues from [[Anime/SonicX Cosmo]]]]
813They're already very similar, as gentle girls with a love for plants whose nonviolent nature belies incredible courage. Possible tweaks include: Changing her signature color to green, adding ribbons tied around her ears resembling Cosmo's flower buds (InUniverse reason is [[BigSisterWorship to emulate Amy's headband]]), giving Cheese GreenThumb powers (Chao are basically fairies, so it makes sense if they can influence nature) which Cream utilizes, and possibly make her Tails' love interest.
814
815[[WMG: Sonic and Tails will finally [[InternalReveal find out]] about Agent Stone]]
816Despite taking down Dr. Robotnik, they do not know anything about Agent Stone nor do they do know that he exists, and was helping him to take down Sonic. They will likely find out about him in Sonic the Hedgehog 3.
817
818[[WMG:Shadow will be an InvincibleVillain.]]
819Between his sheer power, techniques, and [[TheUnfettered the fact he has nothing to lose]], Shadow will waste anyone who tries to fight him, be they G.U.N. mooks, badniks, or Team Sonic. The only way to end his RoaringRampageOfRevenge is to use empathy and talk him down. Sonic does so before the final battle to save the Earth, having realized Shadow was never evil, just facing unbearable pain all alone.
820
821[[WMG: A chaos energy training school will be featured]]
822As the third film will reintroduce chaos energy usage as a form of sorcery, part of that lore will include a secluded holy land with warrior mystics, a la TheShangriLa. [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD Little Planet]] is the best candidate. Amy, a psychic and skilled fighter, and Cream, a budding Chao breeder, are apprentices there. Plus, such a place would provide Shadow with sanctuary post-HeelFaceTurn, since his actions will have made him a wanted terrorist on Earth.
823
824[[WMG: Sonic will mistakenly believe Shadow is from his planet]]
825So far, all the non-humans in the cast have hailed from outerspace, and thus Sonic meeting a hedgehog with a very strong resemblance to himself may result in him assuming Shadow comes from his home planet. However, it is likely Shadow is an artificial life form like in the games, though the exact means of his creation may be changed, and therefore was probably born on Earth or the space colony if that is part of this continuity. Sonic may also try to connect with the other hedgehog over the assumption they come from the same place, only to learn they don't share this commonality. Conversely, depending on their relationship, they might resent being compared to one another, possibly leading to comments about one being a fake.
826
827[[WMG: The ARK will not be a space station and Gerald's revenge will not be a colony drop]]
828The movies still follow the logic that this is present day real life Earth compared to the games where it's more of a Fantasy Kitchen Sink. A space station with its own gravitational force with a laser that can blow up the planet during the early mid 70s would not be possible. The ARK can still exist, but it could be an earthbound facility. Gerald's act of vengeance could then be activating a supervolcano or something nuclear related.
829
830[[WMG: The ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM'' theme song will appear in Sonic 3 in some shape or form.]]
831''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'' was promoted by way of a commercial about Mario and Luigi showcasing their plumbing service. What made it stand out was the fact that it used the ''Plumber's Rap'': the theme song of ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow'' Considering how overwhelmingly positive the reaction to this example of nostalgic fanservice was, it’s not too far-fetched that Sega and Paramount paid close attention to this. They will utilise one of the most well-received pieces of Sonic media to compete with Nintendo and Illumination. A cover will be used in either the movie's promotional material or in the movie itself.
832
833[[WMG:Shadow was intended to be a Cold War weapon.]]
834Since the movies have been shown to take place in around the same years that they released it (most likely, both were in 2020), that would put Shadow's creation in 1970. What was going on during that time? The height of the Cold War. Thus, it isn't too far fetched that one side created him as an intended SuperSoldier, only to scrap the project at some point.
835
836[[WMG:The Earth will be imbued with Chaos Energy.]]
837After characters ring sling to and from Mobius, some Chao will follow them and start cultivating the planet's natural life force into Chaos Energy. This is especially likely if Team Sonic faces Chaos and the god's power affects the Earth.
838
839[[WMG:Shadow will severely injure Tom.]]
840This would give Sonic and his friends a personal stake in the plot. When Shadow first goes after Sonic, he will brutally attack Tom and send him to the ICU where he will be for a portion of the film. This will let the film explore a darker side of Sonic's mind as he vengefully goes after the faker for harming his adoptive father. It would certainly establish a darker tone for the movie as well as show the characters and the audience that Shadow is a serious threat to be feared and not underestimated in the slightest.
841
842[[WMG: If the above theory about a Wachowski being involved in the Ark Incident is true, they will be a Broken Pedestal to Tom.]]
843Not only because murder is wrong, Maria was a young child who was already sick. Plus Considering that Maria was Robotnik’s cousin, it’s possible that He became an Orphan at around the same time Maria was murdered. Potentially putting The Wachowski’s murder count to at least 3 people.
844
845[[WMG:If adapting ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'', Robotnik will hold one of the Wachowskis at gunpoint instead of Amy]]
846Even if Amy does appear, this moment wouldn't be impactful with someone Sonic has only known for (at most) half a movie. So one of Sonic's adoptive family, who he's known far longer, will fill the role instead. Tails' role in the scene will be the same.
847
848[[WMG: Paramount Animation (Paramount's in-house animation studio) will have involvement producing the film.]]
849
850[[WMG: WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph will appear in the stinger.]]
851With Creator/JohnCReilly returning to voice him, it will be revealed that Sonic ''still'' knows who Ralph is.
852
853[[WMG:If Black Doom appears, he'll have at least a slightly sillier personality than in VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog.]]
854But still a legitimate threat.
855
856[[WMG: Tails will use a [[MakingaSplash water backpack]] similar to [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW Kitsunami’s.]]]]
857With this he can form a FireIceLightning trio with Knuckles and Sonic. Tails will develop the backpack to fight speedsters like Shadow by causing them to slip and fall while running.
858[[/folder]]
859
860[[folder:Casting possibiliites for future characters]]
861
862
863[[WMG: Black Doom]]
864* Creator/JohnDimaggio
865* Creator/PaulDobson
866* Creator/IanMcShane
867* Ryan Drummond
868* Creator/HugoWeaving
869* Creator/RichardEGrant
870* Creator/BenedictCumberbatch
871
872[[WMG: Shadow the Hedgehog]]
873* Creator/KeanuReeves. The first movie established that Sonic is a fan of Keanu’s work, so having his nemesis sound just like one of his idols would be a fun CastingGag.
874** Confirmed!
875* Creator/JasonMomoa. He was considered to voice Knuckles in the second film, and may be willing [[RefittedForSequel to get a different role in the future]].
876* David Humphrey. If a current games VA can have a RoleReprise, why not a former one? He was also in Sonic & Tails R, so it's not like he's impossible to track down.
877* Creator/JasonGriffith. Same as Humphrey with the addition of actually having been the voice of Shadow in that series.
878* Creator/KirkThornton. Per suggestions with Humphrey and Griffith.
879* Andrew Koji. Given that he's had his StarMakingRole in television with ''Series/Warrior2019'', why not give him a StarMakingRole in film starring as the iconic {{Anti Hero}}? Plus he's already a Martial Artist, which could add to Shadow's credential as a badass and is British which Shadow had an accent of in the game he debut in.
880* Creator/KitHarington. Another possible contender for the voice of Shadow, especially since like Andrew Koji he's British which fits Shadow's accent in his debut game.
881* Creator/ChristianBale: I feel like they would want someone who already can voice edgy characters for Shadow and who better than Batman himself?
882** Which is why the casting of Creator/KevinConroy is one that really resonates with me.
883* Creator/ChrisPratt. It could also be a great case of PlayingAgainstType.
884* Creator/RobertPattinson
885* Creator/AdamDriver
886* Creator/JaleelWhite. Why not bring back [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog the]] [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM Sonic]] of TheNineties to fight his modern-day successor?
887* Creator/SethGreen
888* Creator/GlennHowerton
889* Creator/WillFriedle
890* Creator/PedroPascal
891* Creator/OscarIsaac
892* Creator/MattBomer
893* Creator/RahulKohli
894* Creator/BobbyMoynihan
895* Creator/TimRobinson, as a response to Ugly Sonic's appearance in ''Film/ChipNDaleRescueRangers''.
896* Creator/AlexanderSkarsgard
897* Creator/BillSkarsgard
898* Creator/JohnnyYongBosch: His performance as [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Ichigo Kurosaki]] lends itself quite well to edgy characters like Shadow, might make for a phenomenal depiction of the Ultimate Lifeform.
899* Creator/DacreMontgomery
900* Creator/RalphFiennes
901* Creator/RyanGosling, bonus points if Emma Stone gets cast as Rouge the Bat, or if Margot Robbie gets casted
902* Creator/BenSchwartz doing a deeper voice than usual.
903* Creator/JaredLeto
904* Creator/ZacEfron as a completely unexpected pick for Shadow. It would also create a ThoseTwoActors case should Amy Rose be played by Vanessa Hudgens or Ashley Tisdale.
905* Creator/KeithDavid
906* Creator/SimonTempleman
907* Creator/TomCruise
908* Creator/TylerHoechlin
909* Creator/HaydenChristensen, considering the recent influx of [=YouTube=] videos imagining him in the role of Shadow. Plus, he has some experience portraying [[Film/AttackOfTheClones a particularly edgy character]].
910* Creator/JoshBrolin
911
912[[WMG: Amy Rose]]
913* Creator/MargotRobbie
914* Creator/{{Awkwafina}}
915* Creator/AmyPoehler
916* Creator/TinaFey
917* Creator/KateMcKinnon
918* Creator/AliWong
919* Creator/KaleyCuoco
920* Creator/MelissaRauch
921* Abbi Jacobson
922* Creator/AnnaKendrick
923* Creator/JaymaMays
924* Creator/KimikoGlenn
925* Creator/KristenSchaal
926* Creator/KellyMarieTran
927* Creator/LanaCondor
928* Creator/ShannonChanKent in a RoleReprise from ''WesternAnimation/SonicPrime'', given that she already appeared as the Roundhouse Waitress in the first film.
929* Creator/VanessaHudgens
930* Creator/AshleyTisdale
931
932[[WMG: Rouge the Bat]]
933* Creator/ScarlettJohansson
934* Creator/EmmaStone
935* Creator/MargotRobbie
936* Creator/KarenGillan
937* Creator/{{Zendaya}}
938* Creator/BrieLarson
939* Creator/AnyaTaylorJoy
940* Creator/GalGadot
941* Creator/NataliePortman
942* Creator/JodieComer
943* Creator/RachelBloom
944* Creator/KaitlinOlson
945* Creator/MorenaBaccarin
946* Creator/TaraStrong
947* Creator/EmilyBlunt
948* Creator/NicoleSullivan
949* Creator/JameelaJamil
950* Creator/JamieChung
951* Creator/TiaCarrere
952* Creator/ThandiweNewton
953* Creator/ZoeSaldana
954* Wrestling/BeckyLynch
955* Creator/WendieMalick
956* Creator/AnaDeArmas
957* Creator/LakeBell
958
959[[WMG: Silver the Hedgehog]]
960* Creator/TaronEgerton
961* Creator/LinManuelMiranda
962* Creator/JoshBrener
963* Creator/PaulDano
964* Creator/DacreMontgomery
965* Creator/DannyPudi
966* Creator/TomHolland
967* Creator/CalebMcLaughlin
968* Creator/RyanPotter
969* Michael Cimino[[note]]The living actor, not the late filmmaker who has a Creator page[[/note]]
970* Creator/DarrenCriss
971* Creator/AsaButterfield
972* Creator/CharlieDay
973* Dylan Llewellyn
974* Creator/FinnWolfhard
975* Creator/TimotheeChalamet
976* Creator/ZooeyDeschanel if they AgeLift Silver into a preteen whose voice has not quite matured yet.
977* Creator/JoshHutcherson
978* Creator/LoganLerman
979
980[[WMG: Vanilla the Rabbit]]
981* Creator/MayaRudolph
982* Creator/TaraStrong
983* Creator/SusanEgan
984* Creator/JudyGreer
985* Creator/ZooeyDeschanel
986* Creator/PattiLuPone
987
988[[WMG: Cream the Rabbit]]
989* Creator/MichelleRuff
990* Creator/IlanaGlazer
991* Creator/MaeWhitman
992* Creator/StephanieSheh
993* Creator/MckennaGrace
994* Creator/KristenBell
995
996[[WMG: Big the Cat]]
997* Creator/SethRogen
998* Creator/NickOfferman
999* Creator/JohnCReilly
1000* Creator/JonStJohn, reprising his role
1001* Creator/ChrisPratt
1002* Creator/SamRichardson
1003* Creator/DannyDevito, since this wouldn't be the first time Danny played [[Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia a character looking for a friend named Froggy]]
1004* Creator/BradGarrett
1005* Creator/PatrickWarburton
1006* Creator/JKSimmons (using his [[Advertising/MAndMs Yellow M&M]] voice)
1007* Creator/ZachGalifianakis
1008* Creator/MikeMyers
1009* Creator/NathanLane
1010
1011[[WMG: Vector the Crocodile]]
1012* Creator/JasonStatham
1013* Creator/JackBlack
1014* Creator/SethRogen
1015* Creator/ChrisPratt
1016* Creator/RobMcElhenney
1017* Creator/LinManuelMiranda
1018* Creator/HughJackman
1019* Creator/GaelGarciaBernal
1020* Creator/OmarBensonMiller
1021* Creator/JohnBoyega
1022
1023[[WMG: Espio the Chameleon]]
1024* Creator/KitHarington
1025* Creator/DanielDaeKim
1026* Creator/JohnCho
1027* Creator/SimuLiu
1028* Creator/StevenYeun
1029* Creator/RobMcElhenney
1030* Creator/JasonStatham
1031* Creator/MartinFreeman
1032* Creator/JohnBoyega
1033* Creator/OscarIsaac
1034* Creator/JaiCourtney
1035* Creator/DavidGiuntoli
1036* Creator/MatthewMercer
1037
1038[[WMG: Charmy Bee]]
1039* Creator/ColleenOShaughnessey, since she's already reprising Tails.
1040* Creator/TaraStrong
1041* Creator/GatenMatarazzo
1042* Creator/DannyPudi
1043* Shelby Rabara
1044
1045[[WMG: Maria Robotnik]]
1046* Creator/MckennaGrace
1047* Creator/SadieSink
1048* Creator/MayaHawke
1049* Violet [=McGraw=]
1050* Florence Bensberg
1051
1052[[WMG: Gerald Robotnik]]
1053* Creator/AlfredMolina, If this one does happen expect him to say something to the effect of [[Film/SpiderMan2 "The power of Chaos, in the palm of my hand."]]
1054* Creator/ChristopherLloyd
1055* Creator/JKSimmons
1056* Creator/MichaelDouglas
1057* Creator/TomHanks
1058* Creator/JackBlack
1059* Creator/JimCarrey, to keep the StrongFamilyResemblance his game counterpart has with Eggman.
1060* Creator/PeterCapaldi, he already has experience playing [[Film/TheSuicideSquad a bald genius experimenting on an alien lifeform]].
1061* Creator/JohnNoble, It would not be the [[Series/{{Fringe}} first]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight time]] he played a MadScientist
1062* Creator/HJonBenjamin
1063* Creator/JohnCReilly
1064* Creator/MatthewModine
1065* Creator/RainnWilson
1066* Creator/PatrickStewart
1067* Creator/BryanCranston
1068* Creator/MandyPatinkin
1069
1070[[WMG: Metal Sonic]]
1071* Creator/JamesSpader, considering he has some experience with playing [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron evil robots]].
1072* Creator/BenSchwartz, to emphasize his nature as an EvilKnockoff of Sonic, similar to how he was voiced by Ryan Drummond in VideoGame/SonicHeroes
1073* Creator/GlennHowerton
1074* Creator/AaronPaul
1075* Creator/TonyTodd
1076* Creator/ChristopherJudge
1077* Creator/JasonGriffith as a MythologyGag.
1078* Creator/DeeBradleyBaker
1079* Creator/NicholasBriggs
1080* Creator/DylanOBrien
1081* Creator/JimMeskimen
1082
1083[[WMG: Blaze the Cat]]
1084* Creator/EmiliaClarke, since she had [[Series/GameOfThrones experience]] playing a princess that's associated with fire
1085* Creator/ZazieBeetz
1086* Creator/KellyMacdonald
1087* Creator/PeytonElizabethLee
1088* Creator/JoeyKing
1089* Creator/DaniellePanabaker
1090* Natasia Demetriou
1091* Creator/EmilyBlunt
1092* Creator/TaraStrong
1093* Creator/DaisyRidley (if Tom Holland gets cast as Silver, this will also be a case of ThoseTwoActors as the two have appeared together in ''{{Film/Chaos Walking|2021}}'')
1094* Creator/SaoirseRonan (it would also create a case of ThoseTwoActors should Creator/TimotheeChalamet or Creator/TomHolland get casted as Silver)
1095
1096[[WMG: Tikal the Echidna]]
1097* Creator/ZoeSaldana
1098* Creator/EvaLongoria
1099* Creator/SalmaHayek
1100* Creator/JenniferLopez
1101
1102[[WMG:Mephiles the Dark]]
1103* Creator/IanMcKellen
1104* Creator/TonyTodd
1105* Creator/WillemDafoe
1106* Creator/RobertEnglund
1107* Creator/JeffreyCombs
1108* Creator/JeremyIrons
1109* Creator/ChiwetelEjiofor
1110* Creator/PeterStormare
1111* Creator/JaredLeto
1112* Creator/AdamDriver
1113* Creator/DanGreen, reprising his role
1114* Creator/BenSchwartz, as a MythologyGag to having Sonic and Shadow both played by the same voice actor in the games
1115* Creator/DavidTennant
1116
1117[[WMG:Infinite]]
1118* Creator/AdamDriver, who played [[Franchise/StarWars another masked, superpowered villain with anger issues]]
1119* Creator/MattDamon
1120* Creator/JaredLeto
1121* Creator/ChiwetelEjiofor
1122* Creator/VinDiesel
1123* Creator/SethGreen
1124* Creator/GlennHowerton
1125* Creator/JimmiSimpson
1126* Creator/DaneDeHaan
1127
1128[[WMG:Fang the Sniper/Nack the Weasel]]
1129* Creator/HughJackman
1130* Creator/TimothyOlyphant
1131* Creator/JohnPatrickLowrie ([[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Sniper]])
1132* Creator/RobMcElhenney
1133* Creator/BillHader
1134* Creator/WaltonGoggins
1135* Creator/DavidTennant
1136* Creator/SteveBuscemi
1137
1138[[WMG:Bark the Polar Bear]]
1139* [[TheVoiceless No voice]].
1140* Creator/LievSchreiber
1141* Creator/AlecBaldwin
1142* Creator/DaVoneMcDonald ([[Film/ChipNDaleRescueRangers2022 Jimmy the Polar Bear]])
1143* Creator/WinstonDuke
1144* Creator/KevinGrevioux
1145* Creator/PeterStormare
1146* Creator/JasonMantzoukas
1147
1148[[WMG:Bean the Dynamite]]
1149* Creator/JimCarrey (Doing a different voice from Robotnik, of course)
1150* Creator/AdamSandler
1151* Creator/TomKenny
1152* Creator/PaulReubens
1153** Sadly, he passed away on July 30th, 2023 from lung cancer.
1154* Creator/CharlesFleischer
1155* Creator/AdamDeVine
1156* Creator/JeffBergman
1157* Creator/EricBauza
1158* Creator/CharlieDay
1159
1160[[WMG: Sage]]
1161* Creator/RyanBartley reprising her role
1162* Creator/NikaFutterman
1163* Creator/ClaudiaBlack
1164* Creator/JessicaChastain
1165* Creator/CreeSummer
1166* Creator/JulietLandau
1167* Creator/SarahMichelleGellar
1168* Creator/ChloeGraceMoretz
1169[[/folder]]
1170
1171
1172[[folder:Miscellaneous Theories]]
1173
1174[[WMG: Sonic and Knuckles interaction with the Chaos Emeralds allows them to tap into the Speed and Strength Forces.]]
1175
1176[[/folder]]

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