Line #121 WMG/TheLionKing2019


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5	[[WMG: Cast predictions]]
6	Please list all predictions for casting here.
7	* Either Creator/SamRockwell or Creator/RobertDowneyJr will play Timon.
8	** Jossed with Timon as he is voiced by Creator/BillyEichner
9	* Creator/IdrisElba ''(Film/TheJungleBook2016)'' will play Rafiki or Mufasa.
10	** Jossed at least with Mufasa, as Creator/JamesEarlJones will reprise the role.
11	** Jossed with Rafiki, as John Kani (who played King T'Chaka from the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse) voices him.
12	* Neel Sethi (Mowgli from Favreau's ''Jungle Book'' film) will play Simba as a cub.
13	** Jossed. Another child actor, JD [=McCrary=], will voice young Simba.
14	* Creator/ScarlettJohansson and Creator/LupitaNyongo may play characters as well.
15	** Jossed. Neither of them are in the movie.
16	* [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride Zira]] will be played by Renee Elise Goldsbury and her part in "Be Prepared" is a furious, epic rap like "[[Theatre/{{Hamilton}} Satisfied]]".
17	** Jossed as, barring an Easter egg, Zira will not appear in the film.
18	* Creator/CourtneyBVance will play Rafiki: We know from [[Series/AmericanCrimeStory his portrayal of Johnnie Cochran]] that he can be a charismatic and self assured LargeHam. He also has a role in Wes Andersen's upcoming stop-motion film ''Isle of Dogs'', meaning he'll already have some experience in voice acting preparing for that.
19	** Jossed, as Creator/JohnKani will play Rafiki.
20	* Creator/KharyPayton reprising his role as Rafiki.
21	** Jossed by Creator/JohnKani's casting.
22	* Creator/JeremyIrons reprising his role as Scar. Or maybe Creator/DavidOyelowo reprising from ''The Lion Guard''.
23	** Jossed, Creator/ChiwetelEjiofor will play Scar.
24	* Creator/MatthewBroderick, the voice of adult Simba in the original, appearing as a RemakeCameo.
25	* [[Creator/CheechAndChong Cheech Marin]], Creator/WhoopiGoldberg, and Creator/JimCummings reprising their roles as Banzai, Shenzi, and Ed, with Tommy Chong as a fourth hyena character.
26	** Alternatively, Wrestling/TheNewDay, who've been petitioning for the roles on WWE.com.
27	** Jossed, at least for Shenzi, as Creator/FlorenceKasumba is voicing her. Also jossed for Banzai and Ed (respectively renamed to Azizi and Kamari); Eric Andre and Keegan Michael-Key are their voice actors.
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29	[[WMG: Scar's backstory will be explored.]]
30	For example, where his scar came from and the origin of his relationship with the hyenas will be explained, most likely drawing inspiration from the [[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/A_Tale_of_Two_Brothers "A Tale Of Two Brothers" story]].
31	* Partly confirmed. We learn that he once challenged Mufasa for the throne, but lost. It's never outright stated, but presumably Mufasa gave him his scar in that fight.
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33	[[WMG: Scar will look drastically different.]]
34	Per [[https://thedisinsider.com/2018/03/19/exclusive-scar-expected-to-have-a-different-look-in-the-lion-king-remake/ a purported "leak" from March 2018]], Scar might be portrayed as a white lion in order to noticeably differentiate him from the other lions. If true, this could also tie into the above point as a means of characterization; white lions are considered sacred in some South African cultures, so perhaps this reverence will be grafted onto the other lions of the pride or some other animals (the hyenas, perhaps?), playing into Scar's ideas of wanting power as he's destined for it.
35	* Confirmed. As the second trailer reveals, Scar does not have the [[GreenEyedMonster green eyes]] or [[DarkIsEvil black mane]] he is famous for in the [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 animated film]]. Instead, he is given the appearance of an unhealthy lion with a scanty mane, similar to Nuka from WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride.
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37	[[WMG: The film could be a hybrid]]
38	Even though this is obviously a remake of the 1994 film and we will again see many familiar scenes such as Rafiki showing baby Simba, the infamous Wildebeest stampede and Scar murdering his brother the film will possibly burrow elements from ''Simba’s Pride''. For example it is rumoured ‘He lives in You’ the opening song from the sequel will be played when Simba sees the ghost of his father. And the climax will likely involve Scar leading the hyenas to war against the Pride being led by Simba. And it could possibly rain during the battle and after Scar dies the rain stops signaling the end of the conflict in contrast to the original film where it rained after the climax.
39	* Jossed.
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41	[[WMG: Nala is a major character]]
42	Unlike the 1994 version Nala being voiced by Beyoncé will have a bigger role in the film. It is likely she gets sexually harassed by Scar following the death of Mufusa and she refuses to be his mate and gets banished where she reunites with Simba.
43	* Partly confirmed, partly jossed. Her role is slightly expanded, with her running away from the Pridelands shown onscreen, but the "sexual harassment by Scar" plot line is given to Sarabi.
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45	[[WMG: Scar might kill Sarabi]]
46	In the original film Scar laid a paw on Sarabi before Simba turns up. As this film is darker it could be possible it will go up a level and Scar will kill Sarabi this time around.
47	* Jossed.
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49	[[WMG: Ideas and characters removed from the original film will be reinserted here.]]
50	Several items seen in the original film's [[Trivia/TheLionKing1994 Trivia page]] will be included, such as Nala's brother Mheetu and some of the [[CutSong CutSongs]] as well.
51	* Jossed.
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53	[[WMG: Creator/JonFavreau will enlist some of his usual collaborators to work on the film.]]
54	For example, John Debney will likely do the music, while incorporating Hans Zimmer's themes from the original. Some of Favreau's actors and friends may also show up.
55	* Jossed; Hans Zimmer will return to compose the film.
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57	[[WMG: Despite including songs, the film will not be a musical.]]
58	Much like Favreau's previous [[Film/TheJungleBook2016 Disney work]].
59	* The song most likely to be dropped from the film is "I Just Can't Wait To Be King" since Favreau seems intent on keeping the trend of his remakes being DarkerAndEdgier, and it clashes too much with his potential vision. It seems to be the most forgotten song of the film as well, in comparison to the big three ("Circle of Life", "Hakuna Matata", "Can You Feel the Love Tonight") and "Be Prepared" (widely considered the [[SignatureSong signature]] VillainSong of Disney).
60	** {{Jossed}} on at least two of these: "I Just Can't Wait To Be King" is going to be in the movie, but "Be Prepared" isn't.
61	*** [[https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Be-Prepared-Will-Be-Featured-in-THE-LION-KING-Live-Action-Film-20190203 Or is it?]]
62	* Alternatively, songs from the musical/Rhythm of the Pride Lands could be incorporated. "He Lives In You" could be adapted, and be presented in a "[[WesternAnimation/{{Moana}} I Know The Way]]" sequence akin to [[https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0f/9c/00/0f9c00923b2c1253f0f0ee3d9325e7a6.jpg this]] popular piece of fan art (also reminiscent of ''WesternAnimation/BrotherBear''.
63	** Partly jossed; a new version of "He Lives In You" does appear in the film, but it's only during the end-credits instead of during the movie itself.
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65	[[WMG: It will be DarkerAndEdgier than the original.]]
66	With an increased amount of deaths and [[AdaptationalAngstUpgrade increased angst]] for several characters. The FamilyUnfriendlyViolence could also be dialed up, potentially averting BloodlessCarnage in the case of Mufasa's body.
67	* Confirmed in the sense that there's less comedy, more brutally realistic violence, a sexual harassment subplot between Scar and Sarabi, and more [[StrawNihilist nihilism]] from Timon and Pumbaa that rubs off on Simba too. But Mufasa's body is still bloodless.
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69	[[WMG: Fitting to the above WMG, the effects of Scar's rule will also be further detailed.]]
70	For example, his killing of other cubs and his [[NoYay attraction to Nala]]. Attempted coups and rebellions against him may also be shown. The gradual decay of the Pride Lands will also be shown, though we won't see it in all its horrific glory until the end when Simba returns and sees it for himself as in the original film.
71	* Partly confirmed, though the further details are less extensive than the above.
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73	[[WMG: Scenes from WesternAnimation/TheLionKingOneAndAHalf will also be incorporated into the film.]]
74	E.g. Simba's nightmares and scenes showing Timon and Pumbaa's backstories.
75	* Jossed.
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77	[[WMG: Zira will appear early to avoid RememberTheNewGuy]].
78	Zira will appear in the film in a case of AdaptationalEarlyAppearance so that she doesn't appear out of nowhere in a sequel. She will flee Pride Rock at the end of the film in a SequelHook, after taking part in the battle and fighting Simba's allies. Potentially her children could appear. The film could portray Zira as CoDragons with Shenzi, with Zira helping engineer Mufasa's death by say, leading the lionesses to hunt far away from the gorge so that they will be too late to help if they are somehow alerted to what's going on. Zira could also get a singing part in "Be Prepared", either singing along to existing lyrics or having a verse to herself.
79	** This seems likely to be Jossed since Zira was not in the casting announcement, but she could still appear as an Easter egg or be name dropped (like Tabaqui in the novelization of ''Literature/TheJungleBook'').
80	*** Indeed jossed entirely.
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82	[[WMG: Following on that, the Outsiders in general will be introduced early.]]
83	Maybe in the climax they will fight alongside the hyenas versus Simba's loyal followers and friends, and ultimately get banished with Zira in the above mentioned potential SequelHook.
84	* This seems potentially jossed based on the bits of footage from the trailer showing the same number of lionesses living at Pride Rock shortly before and after Simba's return, unless the Outsiders were just absent altogether during that brief period of time.
85	** Ultimately jossed.
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87	[[WMG: Timon and Pumbaa will be presented as a gay couple]]
88	Following on from their HoYay in the original film, their actors believing them to be a gay couple, and [=LeFou=] in the ''[[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 Beauty and the Beast]]'' remake, Timon and Pumbaa will be an outright gay couple. However, like [=LeFou=], it will not bear much if any impact on the plot, and not much if anything will be said about it, but there's no question about what we're seeing either.
89	* Jossed, although they do act a bit more LikeAnOldMarriedCouple, it's still only HoYay.
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91	[[WMG: Timon will species-swapped into a banded mongoose]]
92	Aside from giving the film another adaptational twist, it makes more biogeographical sense since meerkats are a southwestern African species with a range extending no further north than the Namib Desert in Angola, while banded mongooses have a much wider range that covers the Serengeti region where the story takes place. Also, unlike meerkats, banded mongooses actually have a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXW_1i1pA0w real-life symbiotic relationship with warthogs]].
93	* Jossed. The trailer reveals he is still a meerkat.
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95	[[WMG: Rafiki will be played by a woman like in the Broadway musical]]
96	Just to give the film another important female character, much like the original reason for Rafiki's GenderFlip in the musical.
97	* Jossed by footage of a male Rafiki at the D23 Expo teaser and John Kani being cast for the part.
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99	[[WMG: The hyenas will be portrayed in a more sympathetic light.]]
100	Much like how ''The Lion Guard'' confirms that not all hyenas are evil, this film will address long-standing fan complaints and also state the same thing. Perhaps some heroic hyenas will be introduced, Shenzi, Azizi, or Kamari will pull a HeelFaceTurn, or it will be explained why the lions and hyenas hate each other so much. And maybe by the end of the film, the lions and hyenas will reach some sort of understanding and peace between them.
101	* Jossed; if anything they're actually made more intimidating and less comedic relief, with Shenzi stating that the two species have been "at war since the beginning of time."
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103	[[WMG: There will be references to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'']].
104	Whether it's using a character (like for say, using Bunga or someone as a background animal like the porcupine in ''The Jungle Book''), adapting some of the backstory (like Scar's), or an outright background reference to the Guard.
105	* Maybe Janja will appear, but just as [[InNameOnly one of the hyena mooks]].
106	** Jossed.
107	* Confirmed; At least one location name from the show is being used in the movie, specifically naming the gorge (where the wildebeest stampede happens) Embamba Canyon.
108	** Mostly jossed; the canyon is never explicitly named in the film, it was just the name used during production.
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110	[[WMG: "Be Prepared" will be given an epic orchestral remix for this movie]]
111	* {{Jossed}}, "Be Prepared" will not appear in the movie.
112	** Not really Jossed. This doesn't rule out the potential for "Be Prepared" to still appear in the film as an ''orchestral'' version, much like how "Trust In Me" still appeared in ''The Jungle Book'' even though the sung version only appeared in the credits and the soundtrack.
113	** Un-jossed -- [[https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Be-Prepared-Will-Be-Featured-in-THE-LION-KING-Live-Action-Film-20190203 apparently (if this is correct), it will be included.]]
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115	[[WMG:The DarkReprise of "Be Prepared" which was cut from the first movie will be used here.]]
116	* {{Jossed}}, see above.
117	** [[https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Be-Prepared-Will-Be-Featured-in-THE-LION-KING-Live-Action-Film-20190203 Not so fast.]]
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119	[[WMG: The movie will incorporate footage of real life animals]]
120	Not just stock footage, but scenes filmed specifically for the movie using real animals. It would explain why Disney is considering this a "live action" remake as opposed to just a CG-animated remake.
121	* Jon Favreau [[TeasingCreator teased]] that there will be ''one'' live-action shot in the entire movie, just to challenge viewers whether they can tell it apart from the computer-generated ones. He did not mention whether actual animals would appear in it.
122	** This one real shot was the sunrise at the very beginning of the film, which does not in fact have any animals.
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124	[[WMG: Scar's reign will be shown in greater detail]]
125	To show him as even more contemptible, Scar will be be shown doing a variety of terrible things only hinted at in the original film.
126	** Mostly confirmed. We actually do get a longer look at how Scar has affected the Pride Lands.
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128	[[WMG: This film will find a different way to expose Scar's murder of Mufasa]]
129	Rather than have Scar [[IdiotBall blatantly tell Simba the truth and]] pushing his BerserkButton as a result, he will be either tricked into it or [[FreudianSlip accidentally confess]] in the middle of a dramatic speech.
130	* Jossed; he still confesses to Simba.
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132	[[WMG: Some things from the original film that may be explained by the remake]]
133	* The film will explicitly portray how the Pride Lands fell into famine and ruin due to the massive clan of alpha predators that took up residence in the kingdom after Scar took over. The explanation from ''The Lion Guard'', that past lions and hyenas settled on two different territories to prevent overhunting, will be included.
134	** Confirmed.
135	* Other male lions will appear as part of the Pride to debunk the old theory about Scar being Nala’s father (or it will otherwise be explicitly spelled out Nala’s father was neither Mufasa or Scar).
136	** Jossed.
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138	[[WMG: The "Simba Confronts Scar" scene will play out differently in the remake.]]
139	As Doug Walker pointed out, the film suffers a BrokenAesop since the pride doesn't move to stand with Simba even after he confesses to Mufasa's death, making it clear it was an accident. The remake will potentially address this in a few different ways:
140	* Sarabi and Nala still standing with Simba, maybe joined by other lionesses, but they get forcibly silenced by the overwhelming hyena horde present. When Scar confesses, they are able to overthrow the hyenas and commence the battle.
141	* Most of the lionesses will be loyal to Scar, in a downplayed version of the Outsiders from ''Simba's Pride'' and more of a MyCountryRightOrWrong version -- until he confesses. Hence why they don't back up Simba even after he confesses it was an accident.
142	* The battle scene itself will be expanded, similar to ''Beauty and the Beast'' and ''The Jungle Book'', especially since the latter showed off Favreau doesn't shy away from gritty action. Scar could also get more action, maybe being challenged by the heroes (Pumbaa in particular, since warthogs are known to be capable of killing lions) until Simba is able to narrowly defeat him.
143	** All of the above are jossed; it plays out more or less just like the animated version.
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145	[[WMG: Incorporation of Broadway songs]]
146	* "The Lioness Hunt": It plays out more or less the same as the musical, as it depicts the lionesses of the pride hunting prey. The song is headlined by Beyonce, and otherwise looks like epic footage of real lionesses hunting prey that you'd see in a documentary, just set to "Lioness Hunt".
147	* "Rafiki Mourns": We'll get an AdaptationExpansion in which the Pride Lands gather to hold a funeral service for their fallen king. Mufasa's body is taken to be buried at Pride Rock as the song is used. Then, with the whole kingdom present, Scar takes control.
148	* "The Madness of King Scar": Partly in case the below "Shadowland" gets included and partly to make up for "Be Prepared" being absent by giving Scar a proper VillainSong.
149	* "Shadowland": To give Beyonce [[TheCastShowoff a solo number]].
150	** Potentially confirmed: Outlets have started reporting that Beyoncé does indeed perform a version of this song in-film.
151	* "Endless Night": Same for "Shadowland", but for Donald Glover.
152	** All jossed; none of these songs are included.
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154	[[WMG: Humans will appear, and have a minor role.]]
155	Just to justify Disney calling this a live-action film.
156	* {{Jossed}}.
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158	[[WMG:Azizi will have AdaptationalIntelligence compared to Ed.]]
159	If Azizi only laughs like Ed did in the first movie, surely they wouldn't have gone to the trouble of hiring a new actor for him? Maybe Azizi/Ed will talk this time, although he may still be less intelligent than the other two.
160	** Confirmed.
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162	[[WMG: There will be memes combining this and Series/TheEricAndreShow]]
163	With Eric Andre in the cast, the [[FountainOfMemes memes]] write themselves. At the end of the movie, once the hyenas turn on Scar and devour him, there'll be a “Who Killed Hannibal?” version of this scene with Azizi's jaws still wet with blood and saying “Who ate Scar?” Or... just before they pounce him, we get “We'll Be Right Back.”
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165	[[WMG: The film will be DarkerAndEdgier and PG-13]]
166	This would distinguish it from the original.
167	* At least partially {{jossed}}; the film has officially been given a PG rating.
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169	[[WMG: We will get a scene of Scar outright challenging Mufasa for the throne]]
170	Or at least mention that he did once in the past. Maybe that's how he got his scar and eventual murderous hatred of his brother?
171	* Confirmed, Scar clearly states he would never dream of challenging Mufasa... ''again''
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173	[[WMG: Mufasa could die early]]
174	As in the original film and broadway musical Mufasa will likely be killed by Scar. However, while Mufasa dies around the halfway period in the aforementioned versions, in this version Mufasa will most likely be killed less than a quarter of a way into the film. It would make sense if this was the case because the film will be longer than the original version and we will see more of Simba in exile with Timon and Pumbaa than he did in the 1994 adaptation. Mufasa will obviously teach Simba the Circle of Life and save him and Nala from the hyenas, but his role will probably be demoted slightly as the film will focus more on Simba.
175	** Confirmed; most of the AdaptationExpansion does take place after Mufasa's death.
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177	[[WMG: Zazu and Rafiki will be extras]]
178	Even though Rafiki will show off baby Simba to the animals of the pride lands and show Simba the ghost of his father and Zazu serves as a majordomo to Mufusa both will likely be demoted to extras. If that is the case Rafiki will probably only show up at the start of the film, showing Simba Mufusa’s ghost and showing off Simba and Nala’s cub unlike the 1994 version where he made cameos in his tree and during the climax. Likewise Zazu will be less of a comedy relief character and to make the film darker Simba and Nala as cubs will encounter the hyenas alone and Zazu will less likely be forced to entertain Scar while in a rib cage.
179	* Jossed; their comic relief aspects are toned down, but they're still prominent characters.
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181	[[WMG: "Be Prepared" will be put back in the film, but as a surprise]]
182	With what IMDB was saying about "Be Prepared" being put back in, Disney might want to hold back on confirming this until the film comes out. Though it could be revealed before the film comes if the soundtrack comes out first.
183	** Not quite; according to Jon Favreau, it was never excluded in the first place.
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185	[[WMG: There be more ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' references]]
186	Maybe Simba will pretend to be mad for a little while.
187	* The above is jossed, but Scar does gain a romantic interest in Sarabi, a la Claudius with Gertrude.
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189	[[WMG: Mufasa got his scars from, well, Scar]]
190	Maybe the two brothers fought over Sarabi and, while Mufasa took a couple of hits, he scarred his brother over his eye. That'd be a good way to make the film DarkerAndEdgier.
191	* Implied but not confirmed; they did fight, but it's never outright said that their scars came from each other.
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193	[[WMG:Scar's unwanted advances on Nala will be reinserted]]
194	In keeping with the DarkerAndEdgier trend of Disney's remakes, the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl8gDjaHWWA deleted scene]] where Scar tries to have his way with Nala ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqUbkD-uAp8 which was later included in the musical]]) will be in the remake.
195	* Jossed; instead he makes unwanted advances on Sarabi.
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197	[[WMG: The scene where Scar tells Zazu to "sing something with a little bounce in it" will be included, but the song Zazu sings won't be "It's a Small World."]]
198	Instead, it will be [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen\|2013}} "Let It Go"]] since that's been the song sung in several productions of the musical version since 2014.
199	* Jossed; the scene is cut.
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201	[[WMG: The elephant shrew played by Creator/AmySedaris will replace the mouse from the opening scene.]]
202	Scar will catch the shrew and tell her his "life isn't fair" monologue - but in this version the shrew will talk back.
203	* Jossed, the elephant shrew lives in the jungle with Timon and Pumbaa and feeds on insects together with them.
204	** Sedaris also ultimately voiced a Guinea fowl.
205
206	[[WMG: The end credits will feature Zazu standing on a desk talking about sad news facts.]]
207	"The Outlands - a wasteland you think so little about, you didn't realize those aren't the Outlands, THESE are the Outlands!"
208	* Jossed.
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212	[[folder: Post-release]]
213	[[WMG: Should the movie prove successful, instead of a sequel, we will be getting a prequel]]
214	The prequel will focus on Scar and Mufasa's childhood, with several lines in this new movie actually setting up some elements of this.
215	* Early in the film, Scar tells Mufasa "I wouldn't dream of challenging you. . .again." Possibly a hint that Mufasa gave Scar his scar in this version. Scar also strikes Mufasa in the same eye when he sends him to his death off the cliff.
216	* Scar telling Sarabi years ago that she chose Mufasa over him and he clearly has interests in her.
217	* Zazu telling Mufasa that he used to be just like Simba when he was little, something basically to that extent.
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219	[[WMG: How Simba survived]]
220	As pointed out on the FridgeHorror page for this movie, Simba needs far more protein to live than bugs could ever provide. Sure, he agreed not to hunt and eat the other animals in that area, but he's not the only thing that might cause them to die. Disease, accidents, and old age could all cause someone to kick the bucket here or there. Perhaps the animals could have agreed to allow Simba to partake of anyone who died from non-predatory causes.
221
222	[[WMG: Shenzi, Azizi and Kamari are related]]
223	Throughout the film, Shenzi seems to treat Azizi and Kamari with a degree of respect, never belittling or insulting them, and the two seem to be her CoDragons. Given that male hyenas who stay in their clan inherit their mother's rank (male clan leaders, whilst rare, are not unheard of), it's possible they're her cousins/younger brothers.
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225	[[WMG: If the Outsiders exist in this remake's 'universe'...]]
226	* ...They are a group of lionesses that helped Scar's attempted coup before the events of the movie. Mufasa won and let Scar live but banished him away from Pride Rock while the lionesses loyal to him were banished from the Pride Lands entirely to take away Scar's power base - but as Mufasa said, he was still family, so Mufasa didn't have it in his heart to kill him or send him away from the Pride Lands entirely.[[note]]Also, a practical problem had presented itself - if Mufasa were to die childless, who would take over?[[/note]]
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