| 1 | ->(''A VHS tape is popped into a VCR and the Play button is pressed. Cue the "HBO Feature Presentation" promo music used from 1982-99:'')\ |
| 2 | ''There are few decades in film history that have been as scrutinized as the 1980s. But to really understand the decade and its movies, it's gonna take a couple someones who were there for it the first time around. Drew [=McWeeny=] and Scott Weinberg are ready to review every major film of the decade one month at a time to look at what worked then, what endures now, and how it felt to be there when it all went down. Turn back the calendar with us... it's the '80s All Over.'' |
| 3 | -->-- '''Opening narration of each regular episode''' |
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| 5 | '''80s All Over'' was a movie review podcast launched in 2016 by film critics (and occasional filmmakers) Drew [=McWeeny=] and Scott Weinberg, which ran through early 2019 when it was CutShort for personal and professional reasons. |
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| 7 | The format is summed up by that above OpeningNarration: Drew and Scott, who both came of age as huge movie geeks in The80s, examining as many films that received a proper theatrical release (whether "mainstream" or on the arthouse circuit; trial releases limited to, say, a week in New York weren't eligible) in the United States of America in that decade as possible. Each episode, released biweekly, covered one month's worth of releases (save for the wrap-up "Best of 198[X]" episodes following each December 198[X] installment). The critics' aim was to move beyond the SmallReferencePools version of the decade that saw MediaNotes/TheBlockbusterAgeOfHollywood formally unfold -- examining not only landmark blockbusters and trendsetters like ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'', ''Film/{{Ghostbusters|1984}}'', the teen comedies of Creator/JohnHughes, the SlasherFilm crush, etc., but also famous flops, cheap cash-ins, forgotten success stories, foreign imports, short-lived and/or oddball trends, reissues of older films, and early stabs at independent cinema...all in an age when cable and home video burst onto the scene and multiplexes were exponentially multiplying across the country. |
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| 9 | Drew and Scott made an effort to watch every movie fresh to prepare for each episode, but discussions are often accompanied by memories of seeing the films when they were new -- or at least new to video. They explore how films are affected by the NostalgiaFilter and ValuesDissonance, which leaves some of them behind and makes some of them feel fresh, swap stories of encounters with people who made the films, and examine how the moviegoing experience evolved in the decade and beyond it. |
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| 11 | Patreon supporters of the show accessed additional content. The $5-a-month donation level, "Creator/EddieDeezen", featured bonus episodes aired in the weeks between regular episodes, which included interviews with performers from/creators of 1980s films, crossover discussions with hosts of other film-related podcasts, an overview of 1980s movie musicals, a retrospective of the "career" of AlanSmithee, viewer feedback and mailbag shows, full-length commentaries for favorite films, and more. The $10 level ("[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabney_Coleman Dabney Coleman]]") added material from in-progress book companions to the show and $15 and up ("[[Film/{{Caddyshack}} Ty Webb]]") allowed access to video content featuring Drew and Scott. |
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| 13 | Unfortunately, the scope and ambition of the show proved too much for Drew, Scott, and their producer to maintain along with their other jobs. What began as an 80-day hiatus in April 2019 was followed by the formal announcement of the show's cancellation come July, [[CutShort meaning it ended with the April 1985 episode rather than seeing the decade through to December 1989]]. All regular episodes remain available, and most of the bonus episodes were gradually added that September. |
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| 15 | In June 2021 [=McWeeny=] not only announced that a book project created as a companion to this show, ''The Last '80s Book (You'll Ever Need)'' (featuring capsule reviews of all the films covered), was still in progress but also launched a Substack newsletter, ''[[https://thelast80snewsletter.substack.com/ The Last '80s Newsletter (You'll Ever Need)]]'', for interested patrons to follow that progress with, turning this podcast into a case of ConclusionInAnotherMedium as the book(s) will completely cover the 1980s. |
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| 17 | !!This podcast features examples and/or discussions of: |
| 18 | * The70s: The two "test episodes" subsequently released as bonus episodes cover August and December of 1979 (including ''Film/ApocalypseNow'', ''Film/LifeOfBrian'', ''Film/NineteenFortyOne1979'', and ''Film/BeingThere''). In addition, it's pointed out that up through 1983, many films are reflecting '70s culture and priorities rather than those of The80s, with Drew calling November of '83's ''Film/Star80'' the last film of The70s. |
| 19 | * The80s: All over! |
| 20 | * AdoredByTheNetwork: [[invoked]] Drew and Scott point out the often-minor films that ended up getting frequent airings on Creator/{{HBO}} and other pay movie networks -- and why. Beyond ''Film/TheBeastmaster'', those included ''Savannah Smiles'' and ''Film/{{Kidco}}'' -- in part because back then R-rated movies were only shown between 8 pm on the East Coast and the wee hours of the morning. G and PG movies thus had to fill out about 2/3rds of the schedule once these channels were broadcasting 24/7, and [[Creator/DisneyChannel the Walt Disney Company moving into pay cable in 1983]] left a relatively limited selection of new family-friendly films for other channels to choose from. Elsewhere, Scott suspects the BoxOfficeBomb ''Theatre/ThePiratesOfPenzance'' was an HBO staple ''because'' it flopped so badly, meaning the TV rights would have been extremely cheap. (Ironically, it flopped because it was originally supposed to be released to theaters and over-the-air pay TV channels ''at the same time''. Many theater chains refused to book the film as a result.) In September 1984, Drew notes that some movies fondly remembered by people who had cable in the '80s might have those reputations due to a combination of this trope and NostalgiaFilter -- just because somebody ''watched'' a movie that was constantly being aired a lot (such as the subject of discussion, ''Film/IrreconcilableDifferences'') doesn't mean it was ''good''. |
| 21 | * AdvertisedExtra: Discussed. |
| 22 | ** December 1983's look at ''Film/DCCab'' points out that Mr. T's appearance in the film, which was shot before ''Film/RockyIII'' and ''Series/TheATeam'' made him a huge celebrity, became this when he was front and center on the posters. It's actually an ensemble comedy and Adam Baldwin's character centers the plot. |
| 23 | ** July 1984 follows suit with ''Best Defense'', which was shot as a Creator/DudleyMoore vehicle; when it utterly failed in the test screening phase Creator/EddieMurphy was a "Strategic Guest Star" via a completely separate set of new scenes (set two years after Moore's, as Murphy's soldier tries to survive in a tank with a component Moore designed) intercut with the original footage. |
| 24 | * AlanSmithee: [[invoked]] The history of this pseudonym and "his" work in the 1980s are discussed in a bonus episode. |
| 25 | * AlternateDVDCommentary: Bonus episodes include Drew and Scott's commentaries for the following personal favorite films: |
| 26 | ** ''Film/TheDeadZone'' |
| 27 | ** ''Film/{{Flash Gordon|1980}}'' |
| 28 | ** ''Film/TheFog1980'' |
| 29 | ** ''Film/{{Popeye}}'' |
| 30 | ** ''Film/StrangeBrew'' |
| 31 | ** ''Film/TimeBandits'' |
| 32 | ** ''Film/UsedCars'' |
| 33 | ** Drew notes in the bonus episode featuring DVD producer/filmmaker Charles de Lauzirika that he and Charles worked on an ''official'' commentary for ''Film/TheFlyII'' in 2005 that was ultimately omitted from that film's DVD release. Drew chalks that up to "I think we told too many stories" (it had a troubled development/production). |
| 34 | * AnnoyingLaugh: |
| 35 | ** Scott loves Creator/DudleyMoore's performance in ''Film/{{Arthur 1981}}''...aside from ''that cackle''. |
| 36 | ** A clip of [[Theatre/{{Amadeus}} Mozart's annoying laugh]] becomes an affectionate RunningGag at the end of the September 1984 episode, all the way through TheStinger. |
| 37 | * AntiClimax: Drew feels that ''WesternAnimation/AmericanPop'' has this because the GenerationalSaga culminates in the in-universe creation of [[spoiler: (Bob Seger's) "Night Moves"]], though he acknowledges that music rights issues got in the way of a more powerful/appropriate song holding that slot. |
| 38 | * ArchEnemy: Drew and Scott -- the former especially -- have a few. |
| 39 | ** Stanford Sherman wrote ''Film/AnyWhichWayYouCan'', ''Film/{{Krull}}'', ''The Man Who Wasn't There''[[note]]not the Coen Brothers film, but a 1983 3-D comedy about invisibility starring Steve Guttenberg[[/note]], and ''Film/TheIcePirates''. Drew formally declares "Stanford Sherman, you are my enemy!" in the August 1983 episode during the discussion of the third film in that list (as a StandardSnippet of "Mars, the Bringer of War" from Gustav Holst's ''The Planets'' plays). However, since ''The Ice Pirates'' was Sherman's final screenplay, the conflict ends with the March 1984 episode. |
| 40 | *** In August '84 Scott declares Ted Wass -- the male lead in ''Curse of the Pink Panther'' and ''Sheena'' -- "The actors' equivalent to Stanford Sherman" with similar fanfare. Drew calls him a "human yawn" as a film actor. |
| 41 | ** In the April 1984 episode Drew considers declaring Blaine Novak, an actor who appeared in ''Strangers Kiss'' (which he also co-wrote) and ''Up the Creek'', a new arch-enemy after loathing him in those films -- but Novak had no acting credits afterwards so it doesn't take. |
| 42 | ** Come May 1984, Drew and Scott find a new one with their look at ''Making the Grade'': screenwriter Gene Quintano, who also wrote/co-write ''Comin' At Ya!'', ''Treasure of the Four Crowns'', two of the ''Film/PoliceAcademy'' sequels, and Creator/TheCannonGroup's Allan Quatermain adaptations. Due to the show being CutShort, most of these went unreviewed. |
| 43 | * AudienceAlienatingEra: [[invoked]] The Walt Disney Company spent most of the decade stuck in a ''serious'' one and Drew and Scott examine how their identity crisis is reflected in the films they produced at the time. |
| 44 | * BestForLast: Usually, the last movie covered in each episode is Drew and/or Scott's favorite of the bunch, which may or may not be the most ''famous'' movie of the month in question. In slower months with no obvious standout movies, the last one discussed is usually the most famous one (i.e. ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' in May 1983). There are occasional exceptions to this approach, most obviously ''Film/HeavensGate'' serving as the final film in the November 1980 episode. |
| 45 | * BigLippedAlligatorMoment: [[invoked]] Scott regards the excerpt of ''Wonder Bar'''s "Goin' to Heaven on a Mule" musical number as this in ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Came_from_Hollywood It Came from Hollywood]]''. The movie is a ClipShow built around highlights and lowlights from B-movies and/or genre films, and suddenly there's a ''huge, horribly offensive {{Blackface}} musical number'' among them, and due to the film's nature it's not brought up again. Drew then reveals that his old Ain't It Cool News colleague Harry Knowles (Drew wrote as Moriarty for that site) once screened ''Wonder Bar'' in its entirety at a film festival... |
| 46 | * BillingDisplacement: [[invoked]] Scott calls out ''Cattle Annie and Little Britches'' (April 1981) for Burt Lancaster, John Savage, and Rod Steiger getting top billing over Amanda Plummer and Diane Lane, '''who play the title characters'''. |
| 47 | * {{Blackmail}}: Drew and Scott's "pitch meeting" sketch for ''Nobody's Perfekt'' (August 1981) imagines that lead actors Gabe Kaplan, Robert Klein, and Alex Karras were all blackmailed into appearing in it because the screenwriter had incriminating photos of them ''and'' was willing to provide them to the curious producer at his request. They're also pretty sure that incriminating photos were the ''only'' way anyone beyond writer-director-producer Steven Paul was "convinced" to participate in ''Slapstick of Another Kind''. |
| 48 | * {{Bookends}}: Each regular episode starts with a VHS tape being put into a VCR, and ends with said tape being taken out of it. These often turn up in the bonus episodes as well, but the music and/or narration at the start is often different. The Creator/NathanRabin episode, for example, opened with excerpts from the Spatula City ad in ''Film/{{UHF}}'' plus some of the film's theme song[[note]]Rabin is, among other things, the author of the ''The Weird Al Book'' and a mega-fan of his in general[[/note]]. |
| 49 | * BreakawayPopHit: [[invoked]] In March 1984 this is discussed with regards to ''Against All Odds'' being virtually forgotten while Music/PhilCollins' theme song "Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)" remains one of his biggest hits. Drew and Scott then ponder that director Taylor Hackford's previous film ''Film/AnOfficerAndAGentleman'' also is most famous for its theme song "Up Where We Belong" these days, though as that movie was a huge hit it doesn't fall under this trope. His next film ''White Nights'' certainly had a case of this with Lionel Richie's "Say You, Say Me" -- in effect, Hackford's career has been upstaged by theme songs! |
| 50 | * BreakoutCharacter: In August 1983 the discussion of ''Curse of the Pink Panther'' brings up how Inspector Clouseau was this, as in the original ''Pink Panther'' he was a supporting character but wound up being the focus of the sequels because he was so popular. (Scott casually notes "He's like [[Franchise/DespicableMe the Minions]] in that regard.") |
| 51 | * BrokenAesop: [[invoked]] Drew sees ''Film/RevengeOfTheNerds'' as a massive case of this at heart. Its success lay in how half the film convincingly puts forward the message "Nerds are people too". But the other half breaks it horribly as the title characters are {{Designated Hero}}es -- the worst people in the story -- and there are tons of homophobic, racist, etc. jokes at the expense of ''other'' marginalized people. |
| 52 | * CelebrityResemblance: Drew is amused that Tony Anthony, lead of the low-budget 3D Western ''Comin' at Ya!'', resembles Kevin Pollak -- not a natural for a Creator/ClintEastwood-style gunslinger! |
| 53 | * ChristmasEpisode: "The '80s All Over Holiday Special" ClipShow was released on December 23rd, 2018. |
| 54 | * ClipShow: |
| 55 | ** Discussed: Drew and Scott '''really''' don't like this trope as applied to the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, as their discussions of ''The Looney, Looney, Looney Bugs Bunny Movie'' and its successors go to show -- though it's nothing compared to their sheer hatred of ''Trail of Franchise/ThePinkPanther'' (a movie built in part from deleted scenes of recently deceased Creator/PeterSellers) in the December 1982 episode. They ''are'' okay with films like the ''That's Entertainment!'' series that simply showcase highlights from classic films in the context of celebrating them, rather than trying to retrofit them into a new storyline, and ''Film/DeadMenDontWearPlaid'', an AffectionateParody that creatively repurposes FilmNoir. |
| 56 | ** Played straight with "The '80s All Over Holiday Special", which arrived Christmas 2018 in lieu of a regular episode and featured clips from regular ''and'' bonus episodes. |
| 57 | * CoolOldLady: Scott's maternal grandmother. She was an early pay cable subscriber and would tape movies off of HBO for him (pop in a VHS tape, press record, and that's 2 and 1/2 movies). Even better for Scott, she was a '''huge''' fan of action and horror movies, so they had a lot of great times watching them together, as discussed in the HalloweenEpisode. |
| 58 | * CoughSnarkCough: December 1982's debate over the merits of ''Film/{{Gandhi}}'' has Scott, who enjoys the film far more than Drew does, note that there are some Best Picture winners later in the decade that he doesn't like -- "[cough]-''Film/OutOfAfrica''-[cough]". |
| 59 | * CoversAlwaysLie: Discussed in both the description and actual episode for January 1985 with regards to ''Film/{{Ghoulies}}'': '''No''', there are no toilet monsters in the actual film. In fact since the month is so thin (beyond ''Film/BloodSimple'') most of the episode description is given over to pondering the issue of the movie with the toilet monster on the poster not actually having toilet monsters in it. |
| 60 | * CriticalBacklash: [[invoked]] At the end of the November 1980 episode Drew discusses how ''Film/HeavensGate'' underwent this, then saw a counter-backlash, then a counter-counter-backlash, etc. among professional critics. Drew and Scott, for their part, are on the side of those who didn't like it. |
| 61 | * {{Crossover}}: The bonus episodes include crossover interviews with hosts from other film-related podcasts: |
| 62 | ** ''Podcast/HowDidThisGetMade'' (Paul Scheer) |
| 63 | ** ''James Bonding'' and ''In Voorhees We Trust'' (Matt Gourley) |
| 64 | ** ''Junkfood Cinema'' (Brian Salisbury and C. Robert Cargill) |
| 65 | ** ''Movie B.S.'' (Jeff Bayer and Eric D. Snider) |
| 66 | ** ''The Movie Crypt'' (Joe Lynch) |
| 67 | ** ''Creator/NathanRabin's Happy Place'' (Nathan Rabin) |
| 68 | ** ''TV Guidance Counselor'' (Ken Reid) |
| 69 | ** ''Switchblade Sisters'' (April Wolfe) |
| 70 | ** ''Podcast/{{RiffTrax}}'' (Kevin Murphy) |
| 71 | ** While not a formal crossover ''Podcast/WeHateMovies'' took on ''[[Film/TarzanTheApeMan1981 Tarzan, the Ape Man]]'' after Scott requested it as part of 2018's Listener Request Month, in the wake of he and Drew covering it for the July 1981 episode of their show. |
| 72 | * CutLexLuthorACheck: Scott and Drew agree that ''Film/{{Runaway}}'' is a classic example of this trope -- given its villain has much better tech than the masses do, why not sell it instead of TakeOverTheWorld with it? |
| 73 | * CutShort: The show was going to cover the entire decade but instead ended with April 1985. |
| 74 | * DealWithTheDevil: |
| 75 | ** Drew's opening spiel about notable non-film events of March 1984, which was the month ''Theatre/StarlightExpress'' premiered in London's West End, notes that its success was Creator/AndrewLloydWebber's deal with Satan paying off once again. |
| 76 | ** In the "Saturday Night at the Movies -- Part One" bonus episode (a look at the film work of the original generation ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' cast members), they theorize that a genie granted Creator/ChevyChase a wish for a successful film career in 1979 that was only good for a decade. As soon as 1990 rolled around, his career went severely downhill. |
| 77 | ** In March 1985, they argue that independent animation studios like Creator/{{Nelvana}} agreeing to do films like ''WesternAnimation/TheCareBearsMovie'' to pay the bills were this trope in action, as they tended to end up in creative ditches as a result. |
| 78 | * {{Dedication}}: Several episodes are dedicated to performers from '80s films who passed away in the week or so prior to their recording; the July 1983 episode is dedicated to Margot Kidder (best known as Lois Lane in the original run of ''Superman'' films), for instance. Typically, after Drew's opening recap of notable real world events in the month the episode covers, Drew and Scott will give a few minutes over to discussing the performer's work and legacy before going on with the rest of the show. |
| 79 | * DistaffCounterpart: |
| 80 | ** Though her movie came out first, Drew and Scott decide that [[Film/NeverSayNeverAgain Barbara Carrera's Fatima Blush]] is this to [[Film/Batman1989 Jack Nicholson's Joker]]...and that's a compliment! |
| 81 | ** In the bonus episode featuring ''Philadelphia Inquirer'' critic Carrie Rickey, they decide that [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Barkin Ellen Barkin]] is this to Dabney Coleman as far as "patron saints" of the show go. |
| 82 | * DolledUpInstallment: Scott refers to this trope as "InNameOnly Sequel" when they discuss ''Film/{{Meatballs}} Part II''. Drew points out "you know you're going to infuriate 90% of the audience" when they realize it's a bait-and-switch. They also ask any listeners of the September 1984 episode who can identify a throughline between Creator/TheCannonGroup's ''Enter the Ninja'', ''Revenge of the Ninja'', and ''Ninja 3: The Domination'' (Sho Kosugi is in all three films, but as different characters in each) to let them know what it is. |
| 83 | * DoubleFeature: Drew and Scott review some double feature reissues Disney released early in the decade, and in the July 1984 episode briefly discuss the old "studio sneak preview" practice: an upcoming film getting a one-or-two night showing a week or two in advance of the general release to build word of mouth. Sometimes, this was done as a DoubleFeature with a film already in release. ''Revenge of the Nerds'' and ''Cloak and Dagger'' both got sneak preview treatment that month (in fact ''Revenge'' got two weekends' worth of previews), but did not officially open as standalone films until August, so the hosts don't review them until the next episode. ''Cloak and Dagger'' was paired up with ''The Last Starfighter''. (The practice was phased out in the early 1990s.) |
| 84 | * DumpMonths: Then as now, January-February and August-September periods tend to have much weaker overall slates than the rest of the year, but Drew and Scott find that November is prone to weak lineups until 1983. They're also surprised to find that '''May''' was not a big deal in 1983 and '84. May '83 had only 11 then-new releases beyond ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''; with the highest-profile of those being ''Film/BlueThunder'' and ''Film/DoctorDetroit'', no less than '''four''' hits from the previous year (''Film/RockyIII'', ''Porky's'', ''Friday the 13th Part III'', and ''Film/{{Poltergeist|1982}}'') were brought back as quickie reissues to keep the month from drowning in {{B Movie}}s. In the HalloweenEpisode, they ponder why so many of the most beloved horror movies were not released in October, and they chalk it up to that month traditionally being a dumping ground -- especially for ''bad'' horror movies. Occasionally they are pleasantly surprised by a good dump month, such as February 1985 (which had two standouts in ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'' and ''Film/{{Witness}}'', plus some films Drew was really happy to revisit such as ''Film/IntoTheNight''). |
| 85 | * EarlyBirdCameo: The bonus episodes often briefly discuss movies that Drew and Scott hadn't done full reviews of in the regular episodes because of the show's chronological approach, serving as previews of upcoming installments. The "Musicals" episode runs down just about ''every'' musical they have and would cover in the show. Elsewhere Drew dreaded revisiting ''Film/TheGarbagePailKidsMovie'' (August 1987), which he regards as the worst children's movie of the decade, while Scott was chomping at the bit to discuss [[Film/TheFly1986 his favorite horror movie of the '80s]] in depth come August 1986. Sadly, the show ending with the April 1985 episode meant these never paid off, though Drew would subsequently discuss ''The Fly'' as a guest on an episode of the podcast ''Screen Drafts''. |
| 86 | * EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: While the format barely changed from its launch, up through August 1980 "boners" regarding release dates and missed movies that have to be caught up on were much more frequent than they were later, as Drew and Scott had trouble finding the relevant, correct information on such. (Only ''one'' of the movies featured in the January 1980 episode actually came out in January, as Drew realized later while doing further research for ''The Last '80s Book (You'll Ever Need)''.) This is partially because many of these films had gradual rollouts across the country (especially {{B Movie}}s) and thus multiple dates exist for when they opened in certain territories. Drew and Scott tried to stick to the earliest U.S. general release date possible. (This is why they don't cover 1981's ''Porky's'' until March 1982, when 20th Century Fox gave it a wide release after a successful regional tryout. It was one of several Canadian or U.S. independent films they gave a wide U.S. release.) Also, the January 1980 episode has a slightly different OpeningNarration. There's a little more of this in the December 1979 test episode in that only a few of the movies covered are really ''discussed''; ''Film/ScavengerHunt1979'' and ''Film/CannibalHolocaust'' each get more time than ''Film/AllThatJazz'', for instance. |
| 87 | * EndingFatigue: [[invoked]] In their respective episodes, Drew lauds ''Film/{{Nighthawks}}'' and ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'' for averting this trope by rolling credits '''immediately''' after "the last thing happens" of significance in each (in the former, [[spoiler: the death of the BigBad]], in the latter, [[spoiler: Daniel winning the tournament]]. |
| 88 | * EndOfAnAge: Drew is among those who regards the critical and financial failure of ''Film/HeavensGate'' as the end of the "auteur era" of American film. He points out that it wasn't so much the price tags of films like that and ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' that upset the powers-that-be in Hollywood -- it was that directors had more power than suits as to how the money was spent. ''Heaven's Gate'' bombing as badly as it did gave them an easy justification to exert creative control over filmmakers again. This explains how in MediaNotes/TheBlockbusterAgeOfHollywood far more money has been entrusted to far worse filmmakers than Michael Cimino. |
| 89 | * EnsembleDarkhorse: [[invoked]] Scott would watch a whole movie about [[Film/TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossTheEighthDimension Perfect Tommy]]! |
| 90 | * EveryEpisodeEnding: The Embassy Pictures/Home Video logo music, followed by the VHS tape being taken out of the VCR and popped into a rewinder, fading out on the sound of it being rewound. |
| 91 | * EvilLaugh: Drew has one he occasionally uses! |
| 92 | ** In "The Best of 1981" he breaks out in one as their discussion of the top-grossing films in the U.S. goes from Number 6 -- ''Film/ChariotsOfFire'', the Best Picture Oscar winner -- to Number 5 -- ''Film/TheCannonballRun'', a deeply goofy car race comedy. |
| 93 | ** In August 1983, Scott points out to Drew that he '''really''' upset fans of the movie ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'' by pointing out, in the previous episode, that "Remember Me" has a VERY similar melody to the love theme from ''Film/{{Krull}}''. "Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, I ''did!''" |
| 94 | * ExecutiveMeddling: [[invoked]] This is brought up when it's relevant to the movie they're discussing in one way or another. |
| 95 | * ExploitationFilm: In the May 1980 episode, they discuss how this style of film was co-opted by major Hollywood studios as part of the horror boom of the decade and rendered somewhat LighterAndSofter. Because of this Drew and Scott, both huge horror fans, saw ''Humanoids from the Deep'' -- a genuine exploitation film that takes MarsNeedsWomen to nasty extremes -- at much too young an age and were deeply disturbed by its content. |
| 96 | * FilmsOfThe1980s |
| 97 | * FirstWorldProblems: By the time they got to ''Film/IrreconcilableDifferences'' in September 1984, Drew and Scott had '''completely''' lost patience with comedies involving the relationship travails of well-off white people (especially the men) in part because their central crises boiled down to these, resulting in characters that were extremely hard to empathize with. |
| 98 | * FlashbackEffects: A whole tone scale on a harp is often used to transition into/out of Drew's anecdotes about his (often awkward) encounters with actors and filmmakers or interview excerpts from bonus episodes that are relevant to the film under discussion in a regular episode. |
| 99 | * FollowTheLeader: [[invoked]] The show examines many cinematic trends that came and went throughout the decade. Along with the obvious ones -- the 3-D movie revival of 1981-83, several varieties of teen comedies, ''Film/MadMax'' imitations, etc. -- they also explore more esoteric ones: |
| 100 | ** Superhero comedies (''Hero at Large'', ''Film/{{Condorman}}'', ''Film/TheReturnOfCaptainInvincible'') as a low-budget response to ''Film/SupermanTheMovie''. |
| 101 | ** Horror spoofs in the wake of both the SlasherFilm boom and the success of ''Film/{{Airplane}}'', which spawned a lot of quantity-over-quality gag-driven comedies for a few years. |
| 102 | ** Sword-and-sorcery LowFantasy even ''before'' the release of ''Film/ConanTheBarbarian1982''. |
| 103 | ** Adaptations of characters who were fairly well known yet hadn't been seen on the big screen for decades -- Heidi, Pippi Longstocking, etc. Reasons why studios did this, especially early in the decade, vary -- ''Film/ZorroTheGayBlade'' was a successor to lead actor George Hamilton's hit Dracula comedy ''Film/LoveAtFirstBite'', ''Film/TheFiendishPlotOfDrFuManchu'' and ''Charlie Chan and the Curse of the Dragon Queen'' were parodies, ''The Legend of the Lone Ranger'' was trying to follow in the high-adventure footsteps of ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'', etc. '''None''' of these films were hits. |
| 104 | ** After 1979's ''Film/KramerVsKramer'' won Creator/DustinHoffman an Oscar, several fellow A-list actors played single dads struggling to hold on to their kids: Creator/AlPacino did ''Author! Author!'', Jon Voight did ''Table for Five'', and Creator/GeneHackman did ''Misunderstood''. Even Kenny Rogers's NonActorVehicle ''Six Pack'' (released by the same studio just a month after ''Author! Author!'') is a variation on this theme, being about a stock-car racer who takes a sextet of orphans under his wing. This is the basis for the "Al Pacino loves his kids!" RunningGag. |
| 105 | ** The "demolition derby of [[TheAlcoholic charming drunks]]" that started with ''Film/{{Arthur 1981}}'' and continued with ''Film/MyFavoriteYear'', ''Film/EducatingRita'', and ''Reuben, Reuben'' ([[OscarBait ALL FOUR]] saw their respective leads nominated for the Best Actor Academy Award over 1981-83. Note that the 1983 winner was Creator/RobertDuvall in ''Film/TenderMercies'', whose character is an alcoholic as the movie begins but soon starts cleaning his life up, thus not qualifing for this list). |
| 106 | ** Rat-based horror movies in 1983 (''Film/DeadlyEyes'', ''Film/RatsNightOfTerror'', one segment of ''Film/{{Nightmares}}'', ''Film/OfUnknownOrigin''). Drew theorizes that this wasn't due to one movie taking off but rather a bunch of producers seeing the same documentary about rats on TV and deciding the critters would make a good horror antagonist. |
| 107 | * FormulaBreakingEpisode: Occasionally the show covers a production that doesn't fit the stated criteria of a feature film that saw a U.S. theatrical release, either because it was ''supposed'' to see a release but was cancelled/couldn't find a distributor or had cultural significance in its own right. |
| 108 | ** May 1981: ''Roar'' (Released overseas in '81; brought up by way of comparison to that month's ''Savage Harvest'', which is also about a family terrorized by lions...but not nearly as infamous) |
| 109 | ** June 1983: ''Film/TheReturnOfCaptainInvincible'' (Not released in the U.S. because the distributor went belly-up '''one week''' before it was to open; previously discussed with screenwriter Steven E. de Souza in a bonus interview episode) |
| 110 | ** November 1983: ''Film/TheDayAfter'' (The most famous TV movie of the decade; for bonus points it's compared and contrasted with ''Testament'', another post-nuclear holocaust drama which was made for television but sent to theaters the same month) |
| 111 | ** December 1983: [[Music/{{Thriller}} "Thriller"]] (THE MusicVideo of the decade) '''and''' ''WesternAnimation/MickeysChristmasCarol'' (Disney animated featurette attached to a reissue of ''WesternAnimation/TheRescuers''; first use of Mickey Mouse and company on the big screen in decades) |
| 112 | ** September 1984: ''Nothing Lasts Forever'' (Cancelled by MGM/UA due to complex rights issues that have since allowed the film to air on Creator/TurnerClassicMovies but not be released on home media) |
| 113 | ** The bonus episode on musicals noted they would cover ''Film/{{Moonwalker}}'' in 1988 although it did not see a U.S. theatrical release (the common explanation is that Music/MichaelJackson's people asked for too big a cut of the grosses, but Drew says it's because the studio didn't know how to sell it). This was another film that went unreviewed when the show was CutShort. |
| 114 | ** One bonus episode from Spring 2018 has them review the then-new ''Film/ReadyPlayerOne'', which is heavily steeped in 1980s culture, and interview its co-writer Zak Penn. |
| 115 | ** One of the November 2018 bonus episodes is about video games and their fraught relationship with film, particularly in the 1980s when the medium really took off. |
| 116 | * {{Fratbro}}: Although they don't use the term, Drew and Scott identify what's more or less this character type in their discussion of ''If You Could See What I Hear'' (April 1982) as ubiquitous in 1980s comedies (which were following on from the success of ''Film/AnimalHouse'' and its WackyFratboyHijinx), with actors like Creator/MichaelKeaton and Creator/TomHanks finding their first big hits playing them. While Drew and Scott found these WACKY, AWESOME characters (who were AlwaysMale and always white) funny at the time, they find most of them cringeworthy now, especially if their actors didn't have the legitimate charisma of Keaton or Hanks. |
| 117 | * FromTheMouthsOfBabes: In November 1983, Drew and Scott spoof this with an ImagineSpot of sorts in which an 11-year-old Scott profanely complains about ''WesternAnimation/TheSmurfsAndTheMagicFlute''. |
| 118 | * HalloweenEpisode: The bonus episode released on October 22, 2018 -- a retrospective of horror movies of the 1980s. |
| 119 | * HeAlsoDid: [[invoked]] It's theorized that the whole reason ''Moving Violations'' (April 1985) existed was because this trope could be invoked by the studio: "From the creators of ''Film/PoliceAcademy''"! |
| 120 | * HistoryRepeats: |
| 121 | ** From their look at ''How to Beat the High Cost of Living'' in January 1980 onwards, Drew and Scott note that a lot of 1980s movies -- even comedies such as this one (about a trio of suburban women who plot a robbery to pay their bills) -- deal with socio-political issues that are still/again problems in TheNew10s, in particular economic/class woes in the United States. |
| 122 | ** In the HalloweenEpisode Drew and Scott saw the run of remakes/reboots of 1980s and '80s-adjacent horror films that's been on since the TurnOfTheMillennium as this, because in the Eighties there was a run of variations on 1930s-50s horror films. The main differences is that while the '80s cycle yielded up a few genuine classics, such as ''Film/TheThing1982'' and ''Film/TheFly1986'', the later cycle...didn't. (This could be because the huge advances in technology and looser restrictions on content that the '80s afforded filmmakers who wanted to reinvent old stories didn't apply in TheNew10s -- meaning that they were more likely to be pale imitations of the originals.) |
| 123 | * HollywoodHypeMachine: [[invoked]] Drew and Scott see a lot of performers come and go through this machine through the decade, with wildly varying results. They have a particular morbid fascination with Hollywood's many failed attempts to make Robert Hays -- Ted Stryker in ''Film/{{Airplane}}'' -- an A-lister from 1981 onward. Had the show not been CutShort, they would have turned their attention to Judge Reinhold's journey through it in the second half of the decade (as discussed in July 1984's look at ''Roadhouse 66''), a typical case of Hollywood trying to elevate a good supporting player into an A-list lead. |
| 124 | * HowTheMightyHaveFallen: Drew sees director Stanley Donen's final film turning out to be the morally reprehensible ''Film/BlameItOnRio'' as a serious case of this for the guy who directed/co-directed films like ''Film/SinginInTheRain'' and ''Film/{{Charade}}''. |
| 125 | * HypeBacklash: [[invoked]] Discussed in several episodes, particularly regarding certain Best Picture Oscar winners. While ''Film/OrdinaryPeople'' isn't Drew or Scott's favorite film of September 1980 or even of that month (that would be the teen comedy ''My Bodyguard''), they both think it's excellent and feel bad that it beat out ''Film/RagingBull'' and ''Film/TheElephantMan'' because this trope has applied to it ever since. Drew himself resented it for ''fifteen years'' just because it beat ''Raging Bull''. They both harbored similar resentment as teens towards ''Film/ChariotsOfFire'' for beating ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'', but as they grew older came to realize that they weren't being fair and were taking the Oscars ''and'' their own preferences way too seriously. |
| 126 | * {{Irony}}: Scott ponders, while discussing ''Roadie'' in June 1980, the situational irony that it and other movies that made the various musicians appearing in them and/or contributing to their soundtracks central to their marketing campaigns later became difficult, if not impossible, to find on home media BECAUSE they had various musicians appearing in them and/or contributing to their soundtracks, resulting in tons of pricey music rights issues that needed to be cleared by distributors. The reason people were supposed to see these movies turned into the reason they couldn't see them! |
| 127 | * JustHereForGodzilla: [[invoked]] Scott didn't get ''Film/IntoTheNight'' as it were, but did enjoy Creator/JeffGoldblum's performance, going on to say that over the years he's endured some awful movies just because Goldblum was in them. |
| 128 | * KidsShouldntWatchHorrorFilms: This concept is often discussed in both regular and bonus episodes (especially the horror-centric ones) because it was a particularly pervasive concept in the 1980s, when the genre was wildly popular but looked down upon by many film critics, MoralGuardians, parents, etc. Drew and Scott's dads certainly felt this way -- Drew's would toss out his issues of ''Fangoria'' when he found them, Scott's would ''shred'' them and leave the remains on his bed as a TakeThat In his experience as a parent Drew has shown many horror films, including R-rated ones, to his kids and more often than not they ''love'' them. Scott's mom and CoolOldLady grandmother also disagreed with the trope big time! |
| 129 | * LaughingMad: Drew risks becoming this in the August 1983 episode between an unusually large number of awful movies and their sheer ridiculousness, helped along by some ''very'' silly transitions and the backlash from listeners about the issues with ''Krull'' and ''Coco'' (see below). It's most obvious with Drew laughing maniacally ''during'' the trailer excerpt of ''Curse of the Pink Panther''. |
| 130 | * LimitedAnimation: Drew has little patience for theatrically-released animated features that fall into this trope, and is especially frustrated by the poorer-quality animation used to piece together the Looney Tunes ClipShow films. Unfortunately, for much of the decade (in particular, after the early wave of adults-only films through 1983 and before Creator/DonBluth's breakthrough to audiences with ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' and the Disney animation studio finally finding its footing again) this was about all that was produced for theatrically-released animated features, namely a wave of MerchandiseDriven films. That said, the first animated feature the show covered, ''WesternAnimation/BonVoyageCharlieBrown'' (May 1980), was ''not'' dinged for this trope by Drew -- likely because it was just part and parcel of the ''Peanuts'' franchise by that point. |
| 131 | * LoopholeAbuse: The show specifically focuses on feature-length films that received a legit U.S. theatrical release. With this in mind, Scott sees their occasionally having to watch and discuss (usually foreign) {{Made For TV Movie}}s and {{Miniseries}} that were released to theaters in the U.S. (sometimes cut to feature-length in the case of the latter), such as ''Film/FannyAndAlexander'', as this in action as they weren't meant for theatrical release. By the time they have to discuss ''Berlin Alexanderplatz'' (which is over 14 hours long) in 1983, Scott's openly complaining about having to handle these productions even if they're good. As a result he's ''really'' peeved in August 1984 by ''Sam's Son'', a film that almost was a TV movie and plays like a bad one in practice. (As for ''Film/TheDayAfter'', it's discussed in November 1983 because, as THE TV movie of the decade, it was just too big to ignore as far as the podcast's producer was concerned.) |
| 132 | * MagicalComputer: Discussed with regards to such films as ''Evilspeak'' and ''Film/{{TRON}}''. As Drew puts it in their look at ''Film/ElectricDreams'' in July 1984, "Remember, in The80s computers were magic! They were weird, dark magic!" (He and Scott move on to [[Film/TheMuppetsTakeManhattan the next film]] by noting that computers can't replicate the joys of Creator/JimHenson and Franchise/TheMuppets, though.) |
| 133 | * ManlyTears: Drew and Scott might burst into mock-tears regarding some of the crummier films they review, but sometimes the tears are real. |
| 134 | ** Drew cries at the end of the July 1982 episode with their pick of the month, ''Film/TheWorldAccordingToGarp'', as he reflects on the talent of the late Creator/RobinWilliams. |
| 135 | ** In March 1984, Drew subtly tears up while discussing a scene in the Creator/PaulNewman vehicle/directorial effort ''Harry & Son'' that, in his opinion and based upon his own experiences as a dad, perfectly captures a father coming to understand their son's surprising potential. |
| 136 | ** Discussed in July 1984: Scott was starting to feel too old for Franchise/TheMuppets by the time ''Film/TheMuppetsTakeManhattan'' was released, but "Saying Goodbye" brings him to tears -- every time -- nonetheless. Drew then recounts attending a press junket for ''Film/TheMuppets2011'': Kermit the Frog (as performed by Steve Whitmire) was available for interviews, and Drew saw a Mexican journalist burst into tears and hug Kermit upon entering the room. One of the attendants said that this was not the first time ''that day'' that tears flowed. |
| 137 | ** Scott tears up during the discussion of ''Film/TheTerminator'' (October 1984) as he recounts how as a kid he often watched it with his late Uncle Mickey. |
| 138 | ** December 1984 has Drew tearfully recount a life-changing experience: He got to spend a day visiting the location shoot of ''Film/{{Starman}}'' (his mom helped with the extras casting), and thanks to a kind unit publicist even got to meet Creator/JohnCarpenter, Creator/JeffBridges, and Karen Allen, all of whom were gems. Well over a decade later, Drew visited the set of ''Film/Evolution2001'' and encountered the same unit publicist, who recognized him. They ''both'' cried as Drew thanked him for his kindness years ago. Add to that how much Drew loves ''Starman'' as a film... |
| 139 | * MarketBasedTitle: Some of the bonus episodes received new, more specific titles when they were released to the public. [[HalloweenEpisode "Halloween"]] became "The Halloween Season", "Saturday Night at the Movies -- Part One" became "It's Saturday Night Live" (since the planned followups were never made), etc. |
| 140 | * MightyWhitey: In the September 1984 episode, they see New World Pictures's ''Body Rock'' as a cinematic attempt at this trope -- Scott notes that Creator/TheCannonGroup was first to make trend-hopping movies about early rap and hip-hop, "Then Creator/RogerCorman came along and said 'You know who can do this better? [[WhiteMaleLead White people!]]'" Scott then describes the movie as about the tall nerdy guys who suddenly start breakdancing at the end of ''Film/{{Footloose}}''. "It's ''Top That -- The Movie''!" |
| 141 | * MoodWhiplash: The sheer variety of movies featured in each episode means that it is often difficult to smoothly transition from a discussion of one film to another -- say, from a horror film to a romantic drama. Drew and Scott often lampshade the resultant invocation of this trope, and/or come up with intentionally ridiculous transitions for laughs. |
| 142 | * MundaneMadeAwesome: Discussed/spoofed: Drew in September 1981 notes "Okay, I'm gonna run to the kitchen real quick to get something to drink, and I'm gonna do it in slow motion and with a synthesizer playing, because our next film...is ''Film/ChariotsOfFire''." |
| 143 | * NameAndName: Spoofed: In August 1984 Scott creates a transition between ''Tightrope'' and ''Flashpoint'' by suggesting they could be paired with each other: "''Tightrope'' and ''Flashpoint''! They ain't takin' no guff!" |
| 144 | * NeverLiveItDown: [[invoked]] In June 1983, they discuss how Creator/JohnLandis has never been able to live down the ''Film/TwilightZoneTheMovie'' disaster that killed Vic Morrow and two child actors, and he never will. While Drew and Scott agree that he should -- and ''does'', based on Drew's experiences working with him -- forever live with guilt for how his actions led to catastrophe, Drew points out that other people invoking this trope are "handing [guilt and pain] to him". |
| 145 | * NewbieBoom: [[invoked]] In ''Film/TheDeadZone'' commentary bonus episode, Drew and Scott ponder how actors like Creator/ChristopherWalken, Creator/WillemDafoe, and Creator/JeffGoldblum seem to get this every few years thanks to their distinctive personas and wide-ranging resumes. They even suggest to younger listeners who may have only just discovered Goldblum by way of ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' to ask them on Twitter for recommendations for his best 1980s performances. |
| 146 | * NostalgiaFilter: [[invoked]] |
| 147 | ** Drew and Scott admit that memories of growing up with certain 1980s movies can color adult opinions of them. Their policy of freshly watching every film they discuss films allows them to examine ''how much'' the filter affects individual films they enjoy, and whether said films are good enough to warrant fond memories or not. Part of the point of their ''Film/{{Popeye}}'' commentary bonus episode is exploring its genuine merits (its acting, worldbuilding, music) to argue that people who love the film aren't just enjoying it through a filter. |
| 148 | ** With regards to childhood favorites, they feel that ''Film/SupermanIII'' defenders are very, ''very'' affected by this trope, with Scott even saying "Your childhood is '''''WRONG!'''''" In fact, when they get to films that are deeply, deeply loved by kids of the 1980s, Drew and Scott will warn the listener if they're about to tear them down, with ''[[Film/TheNeverEndingStory1984 The Never Ending Story]]'' (July 1984) a case in point. They do believe, firmly, that people should like what they like (as discussed in a bonus feedback episode, regarding how their stinging ''Film/{{Condorman}}'' review garnered a surprising amount of response from fans of the film) -- but warn them to beware of revisiting childhood favorites all the same, arguing in the ''[=NeverEnding Story=]'' review that people who love that movie probably haven't watched it lately. The following month, the film is brought up again in their discussion of ''Film/CloakAndDagger1984''. Drew and Scott don't think ''Cloak'' completely works but unlike ''[=NeverEnding Story=]'', they point out it's ''earned'' its devoted fans via the genuinely moving depiction of a realistically troubled father-son relationship. |
| 149 | ** Inversions also turn up as they revisit films they didn't like or just weren't interested in when they were new and find that they enjoy or at least appreciate them. They were dreading revisiting ''Film/NeverSayNeverAgain'' especially, but found come October 1983 that they rather liked it -- and they loved Barbara Carrera's LargeHam performance as Fatima Blush. |
| 150 | ** Drew also discusses this with regards to his father, who was a huge fan of the cheesy [[Creator/TheCannonGroup Cannon]] action films of the decade, from the films of Creator/ChuckNorris (who both Drew and Scott regard as a middling ActionHero at best) to the {{ninja}} boom. The latter especially causes Drew to say that his dad has no right to make fun of him for the cheesy modern movies he enjoys given how bad some of his favorites from the '80s were! |
| 151 | ** In the February 1983 episode's look at the film adaptation of ''Theatre/ThePiratesOfPenzance'', Drew brings up how the pop cultural and public perception of {{Pirate}}s has been affected by this, as exemplified by the first big musical number having the pirates ''chasing and trying to capture women'' PlayedForLaughs. Scott hates such LovableRogue depictions of classical pirates and Talk Like a Pirate Day, and wishes someone would make a movie depicting them realistically, ala ''Series/BlackSails''. |
| 152 | * NotHyperbole: Drew kicks off the discussion of ''Film/TheDarkCrystal'' (December 1982) with [[DarkerAndEdgier "Boy, they aren't kidding about that ''Dark'' are they?"]] |
| 153 | * {{Novelization}}: Drew ''adored'' novelizations as a kid and bought and read any and all that he could. In the April 1984 episode he admits he bought and read the novelization of ''Kidco'' when it was new but never saw the movie until he was preparing for this episode. He also checked out novels that became TheFilmOfTheBook and had tie-in editions published to coincide with the film's release, such as ''Literature/IAmTheCheese'' (because The Other Kid from [[Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial E.T.]] was on the cover). A special favorite of his is ''Film/TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossTheEighthDimension'' for its continuation of the film's cheeky conceit that this is just one of the many, many adventures of the dashing hero, with footnotes and references to previous ones throughout. |
| 154 | * OlderThanTheyThink: [[invoked]] Drew and Scott discuss how certain trends and concepts were/are this. |
| 155 | ** ''Film/ConanTheBarbarian1982'' had a lot of ripoffs, yes -- but several LowFantasy / sword-and-sorcery movies such as ''Hawk the Slayer'' and ''The Sword and the Sorcerer'' were released ''before'' it hit screens in May 1982. Reasons why there was already a push for this sort of fantasy included the popularity of ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', and exploitation filmmakers [[{{Mockbuster}} just having a good feeling that the Conan movie would be a hit and hedging their bets]]. |
| 156 | ** ShallowParody [[invoked]] movies existed long before Creator/SeltzerAndFriedberg, as Drew and Scott's gloomy takes on the horror parody cycle of the '80s goes to show (with ''Wacko'' and ''Hysterical'' being particularly bad offenders in this regard). |
| 157 | ** The Summer 1984 controversy over Creator/StevenSpielberg productions ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' and ''Film/{{Gremlins}}'' (as well as, to a lesser extent, ''Film/SixteenCandles'') getting PG ratings is usually cited as the inciting incident for the introduction of PG-13, but Drew and Scott regard it as having simply been TheLastStraw for MoralGuardians and film critics, as the MPAA was already having major problems with the broad scope of PG versus R. 1980's ''Film/NineToFive'' garnered tons of complaints for getting a PG despite having a pot-smoking sequence among other things, while Creator/ChuckNorris's ''Film/LoneWolfMcQuade'' (1983) was originally given an R for its violence, but Norris managed to get it reduced to a PG ''without any cuts''. They also feel that the only reason ''Film/TheBounty'' got away with a PG rating was because all of its nude scenes were NationalGeographicNudity. One of the first films released in the month PG-13 was unveiled (July 1984), ''Film/CheechAndChongsTheCorsicanBrothers'', still got a PG even though it's rife with sexual humor and homophobia. |
| 158 | * OldShame: [[invoked]] Drew and Scott deal with a lot of films that must be/are old shames for their participants. Drew also admits more than once that yes, he ''was'' one of the (many) credited writers on ''F.A.R.T. The Movie'' back in 1991 -- everyone has to start somewhere! In the January 1983 episode that first brings this up, he explains that if a comedy film has a ''lot'' of credited writers, it's possible that some of them came up with only a bit of material and accepted a credit in lieu of payment. |
| 159 | * OnTheNext: Drew wraps up each episode by teasing several of the films that will be covered in the next one, but rarely if ever by titles. For example, June 1981 ends with "Next month guys, we've got [[Film/{{SOB}} Blake Edwards doing one of his strangest and most personal films]], we've got [[Film/{{Wolfen}} Albert Finney fighting... werewolves, sort of?]] We've got [[Film/TheDeclineOfWesternCivilization punk rock]], and [[Film/EscapeToVictory Pele playing soccer in World War II]] and we've got [[Film/BlowOut the best Brian De Palma movie]] and we've got [[Film/EscapeFromNewYork John Carpenter icons]] and [[Film/{{Arthur 1981}} drunk British people]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheFoxAndTheHound Disney cartoons]] -- it's unbelievable!" Because the show was CutShort, the final regular episode teases the May 1985 episode even though it was ultimately never produced. |
| 160 | * OpeningNarration: Quoted above, and read by the show's producer. The bonus episodes sometimes include variations on this -- the look at 1980s musicals has Scott read a paraphrased version of the opening narration of ''Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors'' over the appropriate music from the film. |
| 161 | * OverlyNarrowSuperlative: |
| 162 | ** Drew on April 1981's ''Improper Channels'': "If I'm not mistaken, this is ''the'' funniest Canadian movie ever made about false allegations of child abuse." |
| 163 | ** Drew on February 1983's ''Threshold'', to the point of laughing even as he sincerely means it as a compliment: "If you're looking for a decently entertaining movie about somebody trying to build an artificial heart, you can't go too wrong with ''Threshold''." |
| 164 | * OvershadowedByControversy: [[invoked]] Drew regards ''Film/TheCottonClub'' as this and decides ''not'' to go into depth about its various travails (most infamously the murder of a potential financier) because, unlike with ''Film/TwilightZoneTheMovie'' (where, due to the deaths of its performers, the original ending for the first segment couldn't be shot/used and had to be replaced with [[spoiler: a complete Downer Ending]]), they didn't have much to do with how the film turned out. |
| 165 | * {{Padding}}: [[invoked]] Often discussed and criticized, but also spoofed in the May 1983 episode when Scott claims that to get the episode up to the usual length in an unusually thin month for releases, they're going to have their producer do some tap dancing. |
| 166 | * ParodiesOfFire: Discussed in September 1981. Drew thinks this trope ultimately worked against the reputation of ''Film/ChariotsOfFire'' because it was ''so'' common in the '80s that it accidentally undercut the effectiveness of the innovative score. |
| 167 | * ParodyDisplacement: [[invoked]] While discussing the film adaptation of ''Theatre/{{Betrayal}}'' (February 1983), Drew points out that their listeners may well be familiar with the ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'' episode that parodies its BackToFront structure yet have never heard of the original work until now. |
| 168 | * PetPeeveTrope: Certain tropes and concepts can severely affect Drew and Scott's enjoyment of films that use them, or simply prove too annoying not to note when they appear. |
| 169 | ** BlackComedyRape |
| 170 | ** {{Blackface}}, {{Brownface}}, and/or {{Yellowface}} |
| 171 | ** BottomOfTheBarrelJoke |
| 172 | ** Child actors who come off as middle-aged people in child bodies onscreen due to being overly rehearsed and brash (i.e. Aileen Quinn as the title character in ''Film/Annie1982''). |
| 173 | ** Cruelty to animals, whether staged or real, to the point that they spoil the ending of a movie covered in the October 1983 episode because it hinges on this and was too nasty for them not to discuss. Suffice it to say that both hosts had a ''really'' hard time watching ''Literature/ThePlagueDogs'' come 1985. |
| 174 | ** DudeShesLikeInAComa |
| 175 | ** HollywoodMidlifeCrisis |
| 176 | ** Homophobia, especially if it's PlayedForLaughs. |
| 177 | ** LimitedAnimation (Drew-specific -- he believes that theatrical features have no excuse using this technique) |
| 178 | ** ModernMinstrelsy |
| 179 | ** NostalgiaAintLikeItUsedToBe for The60s. Drew especially hates how the Baby Boomer generation venerated itself in the '80s, partially because it was shoved down ''his'' generation's throat. This, oddly enough, was one of the reasons why he liked ''Film/TheBigChill''; despite its reputation as the film that really kicked off the Baby Boomer nostalgia industry, Drew found it to be a surprisingly nuanced and cynical take on the subject matter in [[UnbuiltTrope how it deconstructed the myth]] of The60s. |
| 180 | ** SecondActBreakup, specifically the "Well, I guess you're just a whore!" version of ''Film/{{Night Shift|1982}}'', ''Theatre/TheBestLittleWhorehouseInTexas'', ''Film/DoctorDetroit'', etc. |
| 181 | ** Platform/ThreeDMovie, as not only were most of the '80s examples of this trope poorly scripted and produced, they look awful thanks to the "muddy pantyhose" cinematography they ended up with. |
| 182 | ** UncleTomfoolery, the invocation of which they see as a key reason for Creator/RichardPryor's underwhelming acting career |
| 183 | * PoorMansSubstitute: [[invoked]] Discussing ''Film/QTheWingedSerpent'' at the end of the October 1982 episode, Drew sees writer-director Creator/LarryCohen as this to Creator/StevenSpielberg in a complimentary way, namely that he could bring similar HighConcept genre premises to life on far, ''far'' [[BMovie smaller budgets]]. |
| 184 | * PopCulturalOsmosis: |
| 185 | ** Drew explains this with regards to ''Shogun Assassin'' (the CompilationMovie drawn from the ''Film/LoneWolfAndCub'' films, released in November 1980): "If you don't know this movie, here's how you ''do'' know it: You know it from the end of ''[[Film/KillBill Kill Bill Vol. 2]]''." |
| 186 | ** In their discussion of ''Film/{{Scanners}}'' (January 1981), Drew and Scott ponder how that film has undergone this, and not just by way of the YourHeadAsplode scene -- which happens very early on -- becoming a popular online meme. They then play an excerpt of the "Jimmy Tango's Fat Busters" sketch from the Season 21 (1996) finale of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' in which Creator/JimCarrey and Creator/WillFerrell's characters (who are both crystal meth users) engage in a scanning battle as a direct parody of the film's climax. |
| 187 | ** With ''The Dungeonmaster'' (February 1985), Drew and Scott point out that this is the source of Adam Savage's ''Series/MythBusters'' catchphrase "I reject your reality and substitute my own!" |
| 188 | * PosterGalleryBedroom: A real life variation: In the July 1984 episode, when Drew and Scott are discussing the music from ''Ghostbusters'' -- the main element they ''didn't'' bring up in the previous episode's review -- Drew reveals that he visited Ray Parker, Jr.'s house while writing a book on the film. There is a room in it where the walls are covered with every Gold record he received for sales of the title song -- and as the song was a massive international hit, there's a lot of them! |
| 189 | * PowerEchoes: Sometimes Drew or Scott's voices are given an echo effect to humorously emphasize a negative point, i.e. Drew declaring Stanford Sherman his ArchEnemy in August 1983. |
| 190 | * PreMortemOneLiner / BondOneLiner: In the discussion of ''Film/BlueThunder'' Drew notes that these two tropes were all over 1980s action movies, taking off from how memorably ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' used the former trope back in 1975. ''Blue Thunder'' has a memorable example of the latter trope, and both examples are spoken by the same actor: Creator/RoyScheider. |
| 191 | * TheProblemWithLicensedGames: [[invoked]] Discussed in the "Video Games" bonus episode along with its inverse trope (see below). |
| 192 | * {{Pun}}: Scott, especially, loves the odd cheesy pun. Standout examples include: |
| 193 | ** After their discussion of ''Curse of the Pink Panther'' in the August 1983 episode, Scott uses one to provide a transition and cheer up a teary, sniffling Drew: |
| 194 | -->'''Scott:''' Speaking of purview, Drew? |
| 195 | -->'''Drew:''' What? |
| 196 | -->'''Scott:''' Do you know what you are? |
| 197 | -->'''Drew:''' A glutton for punishment? |
| 198 | -->'''Scott:''' ''Film/YorTheHunterFromTheFuture''! |
| 199 | ** The HalloweenEpisode (see above) has a RunningGag of Scott telling corny monster jokes that all end in puns. |
| 200 | * QuestioningTitle: Drew and Scott wonder if ''Stuck on You!'' (January 1983) might have been better off as ''Stuck on You?'' in part because it would fit the framing device (a pair of lovers unsure about their relationship) and just because this trope isn't as common as excited show title is. |
| 201 | * RatedMForManly: Drew's dad loved movies that invoked this trope such as the Creator/ChuckNorris canon, ''Film/{{Nighthawks}}'', ''Film/BlueThunder'', and -- as Scott correctly '''guesses''' -- ''Film/UncommonValor''. |
| 202 | * RedemptionQuest: In the Musicals bonus episode, Drew sees the reversal of the Walt Disney Company's fortunes in the second half of the 1980s under the Michael Eisner-Jeffrey Katzenberg-Frank Wells regime as this, culminating with the triumphant release and reception of ''WesternAnimation/{{The Little Mermaid|1989}}'' in November 1989, which became the cornerstone of the company's journey to becoming '''THE''' dominant force in media by the end of TheNew10s. |
| 203 | * TheRedStapler: [[invoked]] The discussion of ''Where the Boys Are '84'' in the April 1984 episode has Drew discussing how the teen sex comedy craze affected Florida, where he lived for part of the decade. Because so many of these films were set in the state (this one in Fort Lauderdale), it gained a reputation it didn't previously have for being THE place for spring break and unhinged libidos -- one that was ultimately realized by all the people who were inspired by the movies heading down there, determined to experience it all for themselves. |
| 204 | * ReviewIronicEcho: Drew and Scott sometimes turn the titles of films they don't like against them and may well hang a lampshade on it; an example is Drew panning ''Blue Skies Again'' (July 1983) by noting that no one has to see it ever ''again'', followed by Scott pointing out what he just did. |
| 205 | * RightBehindMe: In the February 1981 episode, Drew describes experiencing this trope in 1992. He and some animator friends had just seen a rough cut of ''Film/CoolWorld''. At a restaurant they was tearing the film to shreds, wondering how Creator/RalphBakshi could make something so unreleasable...unaware that Bakshi himself was having dinner there too, and within earshot of them. Bakshi came up behind Drew, put his hand on his shoulder, and '''very profanely''' asked him to shut up about the movie until he was done eating, '''or else he would beat him up'''. They obeyed, "because Ralph Bakshi's a scary dude in person. [[MoodWhiplash Having said that, I kind of like]] ''WesternAnimation/AmericanPop''." |
| 206 | * RippedFromTheHeadlines: |
| 207 | ** In the September 1983 episode, they discuss a clutch of action movies and thrillers that involve the Cold War or then-contemporary conflicts like the war in Nicaragua, with Scott even dropping the trope name at one point. Drew explains that this was the then-latest cycle of films cashing in on real-life headlines to prop up rather pedestrian, basic action plots (escaping the war-torn country, etc.). This trope was also the basis for the run of "farmers in crisis" films at the end of 1984 (''Film/PlacesInTheHeart'', ''Country'', etc.). |
| 208 | ** Inverted with ''Threshold''. This hard sci-fi film about a fictional artificial heart's development and first implanting in a human was not released in the United States until March 1983, a few months after the implanting of the Jarvik-7 artificial heart into Barney Clark (he died the month of the film's release). But it was released in '''1981''' in Canada, so it actually predated that event, drawing upon the in-progress development of the Jarvik-7. Drew notes that the filmmakers must have been anxious that their movie would be dated before it even wrapped filming! |
| 209 | * JustForFun/RoleAssociation: [[invoked]] Sometimes humorously invoked. |
| 210 | ** January 1982: ''Death Valley'' has a character played by Peter Billingsley, inspiring Drew's introductory comment "[[Film/AChristmasStory Ralphie]] made a horror film"! Later, ''Film/{{Evilspeak}}'' has Drew lamenting "Bob from ''Series/That70sShow'' should never be your bully!" |
| 211 | ** March 1982: ''I'm Dancing as Fast as I Can'', a drama about Valium addiction, has a stretch set at a mental institution. Two of the patients are played by Creator/JoePesci and Creator/DanielStern, so Drew can't help but see their presence as providing the backstory of [[Film/HomeAlone the Wet Bandits]]! |
| 212 | ** In the Rebecca Swan bonus episode, she tells Drew how she tricked her daughter into believing that ''Film/TheWarOfTheRoses'' was the conclusion of a trilogy that began with ''Film/RomancingTheStone'' and ''Film/TheJewelOfTheNile'' due to Creator/KathleenTurner, Creator/MichaelDouglas, and Creator/DannyDeVito playing the leads in that movie too. The daughter bought it until about 20 minutes into the film! |
| 213 | * RuleOfCool: Scott sees ''Film/TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossTheEighthDimension'' so thoroughly indulging in this trope as the reason it's the rare film made with the ''intent'' of becoming a cult item that pulled/pulls it off, and Drew agrees. Not only are the characters awesomely cool, but so are their actors. The WorldBuilding is dense (even more so in the {{Novelization}}) and the film's setup so quickly delivered -- all based on the premise that the audience already knows all about Buckaroo's previous adventures -- that a viewer has only two options: accept the film and its world wholeheartedly or be completely flummoxed and reject it. |
| 214 | * RunningGag: |
| 215 | ** When Drew and/or Scott are really (often sarcastically) impressed by something, he'll say "Wow!" -- promptly echoed by [[Film/WarGames Eddie Deezen saying "Woooow!"]] |
| 216 | ** "Dabney Coleman is first-rate!" is a cheeky interview soundbite from the man himself '''always''' brought up when Coleman appears in a film. Drew and Scott regard him as the patron saint of the podcast. ("Dabney Coleman is the best-") |
| 217 | ** Oliver Reed, the Dainty Ape! |
| 218 | ** All the episodes that covered a Creator/DavidCronenberg film had a [[TheStinger stinger]] involving a soundbite from it. |
| 219 | ** Starting in the August 1981 episode, Drew and Scott often do short "pitch meeting" sketches imagining what the hypothetical pitches for particularly odd/bad movies were like by way of introducing their discussions of them. |
| 220 | ** The hairy, sweaty unattractiveness of Burt Young (best known as [[Film/{{Rocky}} Paulie, Rocky's pal]]). At the top of the January 1983 episode, Drew admits they've been awfully hard on him, but Scott points out "I'm pretty sure Burt Young has a mirror, dude." This doesn't mean they don't like him as an actor -- far from it! |
| 221 | ** ''Creator/AlPacino's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Author!_Author!_(film) got a lot of kids!]] He loves his kids!'' |
| 222 | ** Drew and Scott constantly forgetting to review ''Hell Night'', which they should have covered in the December 1981 episode, becomes this in the last few episodes of 1982. [[spoiler: Resolved in the stinger of the January 1983 episode, since it was a thin month.]] |
| 223 | ** In February 1983, the transition to the discussion of ''Threshold'' has Scott note that the film reunited the male leads of ''Film/InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers1978'' (Creator/DonaldSutherland and Creator/JeffGoldblum), and with that a sound clip of the distinctive screech of a pod person is played. The next movie is the divorce/child custody drama ''Table for Five'', and Drew notes that the movie's WhamLine moment is underlined with "a Creator/JohnCarpenter music cue" so over-the-top that "it is [[spoiler: Donald Sutherland at the end of]] ''Invasion of the Body Snatchers'' in tone!" ''Screech!'' Finally, the screech is part of TheStinger of the episode. |
| 224 | ** After they review it in the first half of the February 1984 episode, Drew and Scott keep bringing up the gross premise of ''Blame It on Rio'' (affair between a married middle-aged man and his friend's ''teenage'' daughter) in the second half. |
| 225 | ** From the ending of the March 1984 episode, in which it's teased in the OnTheNext segment, onward they treat ''Film/FridayThe13thTheFinalChapter'' as if it were actually the last film in that series whenever it's brought up. Then the OnTheNext segment that closes February 1985 has Drew tease that they're soon going to figure out what this whole ''New Beginning'' business is. Had the show lasted longer, the gag would have evolved further -- Drew and Scott end their review of ''New Beginning'' by assuming that the character that film focuses on will remain so in subsequent films. |
| 226 | ** Several November 1984 movies revolve around rock musicians played by non-musicians, and each one is accompanied by a snippet of [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie "The Touch"]]...the version from ''Film/BoogieNights'', that is! This gag returned in January 1985 when they tackled the Creator/{{Troma}} film ''Rockin' Road Trip''. |
| 227 | ** February 1985's look at ''The Mean Season'' has Drew introduce "Bad News" -- his designation for the oncoming storm of similar movies about reporters who are '''terrible''' at their jobs. This running gag's theme song is Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry". Subverted as this didn't turn up again before the show was discontinued. |
| 228 | ** ''Hunk'' is an obscure DealWithTheDevil comedy Creator/CrownInternationalPictures released in March 1987. ''Hunk'' was positively brought up by guest commentators in two different bonus episodes, much to Drew and Scott's bemusement/amusement. Bringing up ''Hunk'' thus became a running gag in both bonus and regular episodes -- long, ''long'' before they were due to actually watch and discuss it for themselves. Ultimately, they never did. |
| 229 | ** Variations on "We've discussed [obscure, bad movie X] longer than anyone else in history." |
| 230 | * ScrewedByTheNetwork: [[invoked]] If a movie was legitimately mishandled by its distributor, Drew and Scott will discuss how whether the final result was good or not. The early stretch of July 1983 goes into this at length for both ''WesternAnimation/RockAndRule'' and the sci-fi spoof musical ''The Creature Wasn't Nice''. |
| 231 | * ShoutOut: The Viewer Mailbag bonus episodes always open with a sound bite of [[WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce Master Shake: "Maaaail callllll!"]] |
| 232 | * ShroudedInMyth: Drew says that ''Smokey and the Bandit 3'' is this due to the urban legend claiming that in the original version, ''Smokey IS the Bandit'', Jackie Gleason played two different roles before reshoots added Jerry Reed to the proceedings. Drew actually talked to its director, and thus is able to confirm that in the original cut Gleason only played Sheriff Buford T. Justice; test audiences were just confused as to the lack of the Bandit, leading Reed to be cast as a substitute for that character (since Burt Reynolds only made a cameo in this one) and the film reshot. |
| 233 | * TheSmurfettePrinciple: Scott's one complaint against ''Film/TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossTheEighthDimension'' is that it has only one significant female character as opposed to all the memorable guys and she spends a third of the movie as a DamselInDistress to boot. Drew chalks it up both to the film being an affectionate goof on PulpMagazine tropes and that it was made in 1984, and that if such a film were made today there would be a better ratio of male-to-female characters. |
| 234 | * SpearCounterpart: |
| 235 | ** In June 1981 Drew and Scott discuss how one of the biggest hits of 1981, ''Film/{{Stripes}}'', was more or less this to one of the biggest hits of 1980, ''Private Benjamin'', as both are comedies about protagonists who join the army on a whim. |
| 236 | ** Scott sees ''All the Right Moves'' as this to ''Film/{{Flashdance}}'', though a far better film, in the October 1983 episode. It helps that both movies have their youthful, big-dreams protagonists living in Pittsburgh. |
| 237 | * TheStinger: In addition to (or on top of) the traditional EveryEpisodeEnding, many episodes add this. |
| 238 | ** April 1980: "Dabney Coleman is first-rate..." followed by Scott: "Uh, could you hear me vaping?" |
| 239 | ** June 1980: Instrumental opening of [[Film/TheBluesBrothers "Everybody Needs Somebody"]] |
| 240 | ** September 1980: Scott discusses ''The Exterminator'': "Let's drop a guy in a meatgrinder! Rah! (beat) Rah!" |
| 241 | ** January 1981: [[Film/{{Scanners}} Darryl Revok makes a man's head explode]] |
| 242 | ** June 1981: [[Film/SupermanII "ZOD!"]] |
| 243 | ** Best of 1981: [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk "The Raiders March"]] |
| 244 | ** January 1982: Drew recreates Creator/KlausKinski's absurdly unintelligible shouting to a policeman in ''Venom'' |
| 245 | ** April 1982: "''Film/{{Battletruck}}''!" (a trailer-specific soundbite) |
| 246 | ** June 1982: Drew's...''profane'' goodbye to riders of [[Ride/UniversalStudios E.T. Adventure]], followed by the closing seconds of the finale music from ''Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial'' |
| 247 | ** July 1982: Title screen music and lightcycle sound effects from the arcade version of ''VideoGame/{{Tron}}'' |
| 248 | ** August 1982: [[Film/FastTimesAtRidgemontHigh Brad wonders if anybody knocks anymore]] |
| 249 | ** October 1982: A character runs down a LongList of drugs on offer in ''Fast-Walking'' (an obscure Creator/JamesWoods vehicle) |
| 250 | ** January 1983: The sound effect of the rewinding tape ''completely'' plays through, followed by [[spoiler: Drew and Scott's review of ''Hell Night'' at last!]] |
| 251 | ** February 1983: The screech of the pod people in ''Film/InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers1978'' (the payoff to a RunningGag; see above), followed by static and an intonation of "Film/{{Videodrome}}" |
| 252 | ** July 1983: Drew moans that one of the ingredients of ''Film/{{Krull}}'' is "Butt", with Scott patiently replying "No, not 'butt'..." |
| 253 | ** October 1983: [[Film/TheDeadZone (crash) "The ICE is gonna BREAK!" "I want you out of here."]] |
| 254 | ** January 1984: Drew mock-retching during the discussion of ''Surf II'' |
| 255 | ** February 1984: [[Film/{{Footloose}} The last notes of "Footloose"]] |
| 256 | ** May 1984: Scott saying "Gavel!"[[note]]As he "state[s] for the record" that ''Film/TheBounty'' and ''Film/SixteenCandles'' getting inappropriate PG ratings helped contribute to the creation of PG-13[[/note]] and [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Drew's impression of a refrigerator throwing up]][[note]]It has to do with Michael Winslow's performance in ''Alphabet City''[[/note]] |
| 257 | ** August 1984: The EveryEpisodeEnding is absent for the only time in a regular episode in favor of the end credit music from ''Film/TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossTheEighthDimension'' serving as the playout |
| 258 | ** September 1984: Drew mocks ''Windy City'' ("I'm a writer, these are my friends and this is what led to my artwork! This is my art and where it came from!") and [[Theatre/{{Amadeus}} Mozart laughs]] |
| 259 | ** October 1984: Drew's impersonation of Music/RingoStarr in ''Film/GiveMyRegardsToBroadStreet'', using actual dialogue from the film: "I'm on drugs!" |
| 260 | * SpecialEditionTitle: The bonus episode (one of the earliest ones) featuring an interview with screenwriter Steven E. deSouza doesn't include the HBO Feature Presentation theme in favor of an OpeningNarration that's more in the style of an action movie trailer. |
| 261 | * StopBeingStereotypical: Drew discusses this on a genre level in October 1984. It was ''very'' hard to be a {{Horror}} fan in the 1980s because for all of the fun, clever, and/or intelligent films being made during that era, as soon as a critic or MoralGuardian got a whiff of a grisly, artless ExploitationFilm like ''The New York Ripper'', they would tar and feather the whole genre as intellectually and morally bankrupt. |
| 262 | * SuckinessIsPainful: Generally ''really'' bad movies either highly amuse or infuriate Drew and Scott. Then there's ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slapstick_of_Another_Kind Slapstick of Another Kind]]'', the film Drew (as of the March 1984 episode) regards as '''THE''' worst of the 1980s, enough to make him regret not only doing the podcast but the concept of cinema itself! Drew challenges the hosts of various bad movie podcasts, in particular ''Podcast/HowDidThisGetMade'', to try and make it through the entire film -- suspecting they cannot. |
| 263 | * SuddenDownerEnding: Discussed and spoofed in the December 1983 episode regarding ''Reuben, Reuben'', which has a much darker ending than they expected though it doesn't quite fit this trope (it's closer to ShootTheShaggyDog). Drew then imagines an alternate version of ''Film/{{Arthur 1981}}'', which has a somewhat similar protagonist, in which the title character suddenly pulls out a gun and kills himself complete with gunshot sound effect. (Beat) [[MoodWhiplash Cue the chorus]] of [[AwardBaitSong "Arthur's Theme"]]! |
| 264 | * SuddenlyShouting: Scott, discussing the {{Slapstick}} opening titles of ''Film/SupermanIII'': "I-I don't get what we're LOOKING AT HERE! WHAT ARE WE WATCHING?" |
| 265 | * SuspiciouslySimilarSong: [[invoked]] |
| 266 | ** In the July 1983 episode, Drew makes a case that the melody of ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'''s SignatureSong "Remember Me" is this to James Horner's love theme from ''Film/{{Krull}}''. In the next episode, he reassures the ''many'' people who wrote in about this that he was not accusing the ''Coco'' songwriters of deliberately stealing anything, just that it was indeed "a horrible coincidence." |
| 267 | ** In the December 1983 episode he finds something "worse than the ''Coco'' thing" -- the melody from ''Film/DCCab'''s theme song "The Dream (Hold On To Your Dream)", specifically the MelismaticVocals, turns up again in the TitleThemeTune of ''Film/TheNeverendingStory'' the following year. This is easily explained by Music/GiorgioMoroder having composing credits on both songs. |
| 268 | * TheTeaser: Though less frequent than TheStinger, some episodes feature a soundbite as the tape is being popped in. |
| 269 | ** February 1981: [[Film/{{Aliens}} "We're on an express elevator to Hell, goin' down!"]] (in memory of Creator/BillPaxton, who died shortly before this episode was recorded; Drew and Scott also discuss his career at the top of the episode) |
| 270 | ** October 1983: [[Film/TheRightStuff Alan Shepard's profane prayer]] |
| 271 | ** October 1984: [[Film/StopMakingSense "Hi. I've got a tape I want to play."]] |
| 272 | ** March 1985: In a break from movie content, a typical BreakingTheFourthWall moment from ''Series/{{Moonlighting}}'' (Maddie and David argue over padding out an episode), which premiered on ABC this month |
| 273 | * TemptingFate: Drew and Scott point out that titling a movie ''Gimme an F'' (November 1984) is just '''begging''' critics to use said title against it -- and in this case not without reason. |
| 274 | * ThemeNaming: For the August 1984 episode the description refers to Drew and Scott as "John [=FilmNerd=] 2.0 and John Phillycheesesteak". [[Film/TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossTheEighthDimension Three guesses as to their favorite film of the month.]] [[note]]Drew's surname refers to one of his columns and Scott's his beloved hometown.[[/note]] |
| 275 | * ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld: "Those who love ''Film/TopSecret'' and those who haven't seen it", according to Scott. Drew's version is "Those who love ''Top Secret!'' and those who are '''wrong'''." |
| 276 | * ThisIsGonnaSuck: This comes up fairly often for Drew and Scott, given they're trying to cover '''every''' theatrically-released film of the decade, but it's most obvious with ''1983 as a whole''. Scott regards it as the worst moviegoing year of the decade, and indeed there are a lot more {{B Movie}}s than usual (because the home video markets and multiplexes were hungry for product) and a surprisingly bad batting average for the year's intended tentpole releases. Of the year's top 10 grossers, they only like/love four of them[[note]]''Risky Business'', ''Film/WarGames'', ''Terms of Endearment'', ''Return of the Jedi''[[/note]], find two watchable but overrated[[note]]''Mr. Mom'' and ''Trading Places''[[/note]] and abhor the other four[[note]]''Staying Alive'', ''Sudden Impact'', ''Octopussy'', and ''Flashdance''[[/note]]. |
| 277 | * ThisIsYourPremiseOnDrugs: [[invoked]] Discussed in April 1983. When Scott points out that ''Film/LoneWolfMcQuade'' seeded the ground for Creator/ChuckNorris's later TV vehicle ''Series/WalkerTexasRanger'' ([=McQuade=] being a Ranger himself), Drew specifies that it's that show made by someone who took bad mescaline and then watched a bunch of {{Spaghetti Western}}s. |
| 278 | * TimmyInAWell: Spoofed in the episode descriptions for July and August 1980 to "explain" why WeAreExperiencingTechnicalDifficulties regarding the sound on Scott's end -- he was trapped in a well at the time, and was subsequently rescued by a dog [[TickertapeParade who had a parade thrown in its honor]]. |
| 279 | * ATragedyOfImpulsiveness: Spoofed in February 1983's second "pitch meeting" sketch. Drew's Universal Pictures executive loves the idea of a sequel to ''Film/TheSting'' by the screenwriter of the original and says it doesn't matter who's in it, they'll produce it. Then he learns the new leads are Jackie Gleason and Mac Davis. "Wait...OK, now wait...I know what I just said, but no, wait..." "Aaaaand scene!" |
| 280 | * TroubledProduction: [[invoked]] Discussed whenever it's relevant to the film they're discussing and how it turned out. |
| 281 | * ValuesDissonance: [[invoked]] Drew and Scott like to examine how many '80s movies got away with things that just don't fly in TheNew10s (or only fly with certain audiences): |
| 282 | ** Comedies in which a character's behavior (said character is usually a white {{Fratbro}}) is treated as wacky good fun when it's actually a sex crime. This is how they describe many of the teen {{sex comed|y}}ies of the era, especially after ''Film/{{Porkys}}'' became a hit, and even some more straightforward comedies such as ''Film/StrokerAce'' and ''Film/BlameItOnRio''. It's also a big part of why they loved ''Film/FastTimesAtRidgemontHigh'' and ''Film/RiskyBusiness'', which both come off as {{Genre Deconstruction}}s in their handling of the tropes of teen sex comedies. And as discussed in the August 1984 episode, the lead characters of these movies might as well grow up to be... |
| 283 | ** The middle-aged protagonists of many ''other'' comedies, particularly the [[RomanticComedy romances]] and/or HollywoodMidlifeCrisis farces. They're all white men prone to selfish, entitled libidos, and are usually well-off and married. They're bickering, harassing, dishonest, unprofessional, even lawbreaking -- yet get happy endings all the same. Creator/DudleyMoore (the lead in the film that codified the midlife crisis subgenre, ''Film/Ten1979'') ended up playing '''a lot''' of these characters post-''Arthur''[[note]]the films discussed: ''Lovesick'', ''Romantic Comedy'', ''Best Defense'', ''Micki + Maude'', and -- due to {{Flanderization}} -- ''Arthur 2: On the Rocks''[[/note]], to the point that by ''Best Defense'' the hosts note that they ''like'' Moore as a person and [[MeanCharacterNiceActor they don't want listeners to be confused and think he was a scumbag]]. Creator/BurtReynolds also did a run of these films[[note]]''Paternity'', ''Best Friends'', ''The Man Who Loved Women''[[/note]], and Creator/GeneWilder had ''The Woman in Red'' -- which Wilder '''wrote and directed''', making Drew wonder about what kind of a person Wilder must have been in real life. |
| 284 | ** [[VigilanteMan Vigilantism]] being celebrated, as in ''Film/SuddenImpact''. |
| 285 | ** Casual racism, sexism, and/or homophobia, especially if it's PlayedForLaughs. |
| 286 | ** Minority characters being portrayed by majority actors. ''Film/Scarface1983'' has only one principal Cuban character who's played by an actual Cuban, Caucasian actress Linda Hunt plays a ''male'' Chinese-Australian in ''Film/TheYearOfLivingDangerously'', etc. Drew and Scott are more forgiving of this practice than the others, especially if it isn't using {{Brownface}}, etc. and/or isn't PlayedForLaughs, but feel it must be left in the past. |
| 287 | * ValuesResonance: [[invoked]] On the other side of the coin, they also find movies that could just as easily have been made in TheNew10s with a little tweaking. ''Film/{{Frances}}'' (December 1982) and ''Film/Star80'' (November 1983), for example, have this in the light of the [=#MeToo=] and Time's Up movements, going to show how little has changed in Hollywood and society at large when it comes to the treatment of women. |
| 288 | * VideoGameMoviesSuck: [[invoked]] Discussed along with its inverse (see above) in the "Video Games" bonus episode. Drew and Scott argue that it's generally easier and better to incorporate video game culture into films rather than try to straight-up translate the plots of video games into another medium. For example, ''Film/CloakAndDagger1984'' has a video game serve as a MacGuffin, and ''Film/TheLastStarfighter'' hinges on an arcade game actually being a means of finding starship fighter pilots. |
| 289 | * WeAreExperiencingTechnicalDifficulties: The July and August 1980 episodes have sound issues on Scott's end giving his voice an echo effect that's acknowledged in the episode descriptions (for July: "you'll notice that Scott Weinberg was [[TimmyInAWell trapped in a well]] for this week's episode"). |
| 290 | * WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[invoked]] Drew and Scott often discuss trivia of this kind for the films they review. |
| 291 | ** With both ''Film/{{Arthur 1981}}'' and ''Film/RomancingTheStone'', they lament this trope applying to the films' respective screenwriters, Steve Gordon (second-time screenwriter/first-time director) and Diane Thomas (first-time screenwriter). Both were practically destined for other, bigger things based on those films' success but both died young, he of a heart attack in 1982, she in a car accident in late 1984. It doesn't help that both movies ended up getting notoriously poor sequels by other writers. |
| 292 | * WhosOnFirst: In October 1983, Drew can't understand why Scott won't tell him the title of the next film, only that it's RomanticComedy. Scott [[CriticBreakdown bursts into tears]] ("I'm at the mercy of this horrible film!") as he explains that ''is'' the title of the movie: ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_Comedy_(1983_film) Romantic Comedy]]''. |
| 293 | * WolverinePublicity: In the November 1983 episode, they regard ''WesternAnimation/TheSmurfsAndTheMagicFlute'' as a case of this for American kids. The 1976 animated feature predated [[WesternAnimation/TheSmurfs1981 the famous Hanna-Barbera adaptation of the characters]] and as it adapts the original Johan and Peewit comic album that ''introduced'' the Smurfs (who became {{Breakout Character}}s), the little blue guys don't get a lot of screen time. Atlantic Releasing Corporation played up the Smurfs' presence when they picked up the film for an American release, and Drew and Scott imagine a lot of Smurf-loving kids were downright confused if not upset by the results -- especially since Atlantic didn't even bother to hire the H-B voice actors for their English-language dub. |
| 294 | * WordSaladLyrics: Spoofed in the February 1982 episode as Drew brings up the songs Creator/TomWaits contributed to ''One from the Heart'': "And the piano jumped upside down/And the bathtub's full of vinegar..." |
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