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8	->'''Random Man:''' You have to learn from the past. Something like that should never be repeated.\
9	'''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler:''' It won't be repeated. This time, we're going to do this right.
10	-->-- ''Film/LookWhosBack''
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12	Let's face it: ThoseWackyNazis make great villains. Between their [[PuttingOnTheReich aesthetic]], their ideology, and their absolutely monstrous rap sheet, it's no wonder they pop up as antagonists a lot. But unlike with many other ideologies, Nazism no longer has a country to call its own, since UsefulNotes/NaziGermany fell to the Allied Powers at the end of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
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14	So what's a contemporary Nazi to do? Why, try to bring about another Nazi state, of course!
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16	Simply put, this trope is about Nazis attempting to build a new country dedicated to the ideas of Nazism. Bonus points if it's led by a [[ApocalypseHitler resurrected]] UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler or a [[YouClonedHitler clone of him]]. Their attempts will generally fail, though they'll sometimes succeed, if only briefly. On rare occasions, the story may begin after a successful effort to create a new Nazi country. While "Reich" traditionally refers to states centered on Germany, [[Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible the Fourth Reich doesn't necessarily have to be there]]; as long as it's a Nazi country, it qualifies for the trope. [[ArgentinaIsNaziland Argentina]] is a popular non-Germany country.
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18	May overlap with StupidJetpackHitler. For cases of the Third Reich winning or at least surviving, see AlternateHistoryNaziVictory. Compare ANaziByAnyOtherName, a fictional Nazi-like organization with little to no connection with actual Nazis.
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21	!!Examples:
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26	* The Franchise/MarvelUniverse has many Nazi villains who seek to create a new Nazi state. For example:
27	** The Red Skull from ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' has made multiple attempts to take over the world in the name of the Nazi cause. One memorable example was him temporarily [[EvilVersusEvil seizing control of the Kingdom of Latveria]] from [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Doctor Doom]] and subjecting it to Nazi rule.
28	** The first modern incarnation of ComicBook/{{Hydra}} attempted to establish a new Nazi government. Of course, later incarnations have [[ContinuitySnarl gone back and forth]] on Nazism.
29	** In ''ComicBook/MasterOfKungFu'', ComicBook/ShangChi finds himself opposing Wilhelm Bucher and his Fourth Reich project in the Amazon jungle.
30	** Also in ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'', the Kubekult was a group of Neo-Nazis that sought to free Hitler's consciousness from a Cosmic Cube, as well as use said cube to create what they called the "New World Reich."
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34	* Discussed in ''WesternAnimation/TheHauntedWorldOfElSuperbeasto'': After spending the whole movie chasing Suzie X for [[ItMakesSenseInContext kidnapping and blowing up Hitler's disembodied head]], Commandant Hess (with his army of NaziZombies) claims that whoever does so shall be afflicted with the Nazi curse and be hounded by the second coming of the Third Reich. Suzie X then points out that it would ''technically'' be the first coming of the Fourth Reich.
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38	* Subverted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''. HYDRA has survived World War II [[spoiler:by embedding itself within SHIELD]] and was founded by actual Nazis, but have since abandoned its racial politics in favor of a more generically authoritarian TakeOverTheWorld plot.
39	* ''Film/LookWhosBack'': At the end, [[spoiler:it's implied that Hitler uses his immense popularity to return to politics and rise to power once again]].
40	* ''Film/IronSky'' features a Fourth Reich based on the Moon that seeks to invade and take over Earth.
41	* Parodied in ''Film/LAStory''. At one point Harris tries to get a dinner reservation at a trendy new restaurant and is required to meet with the chef and the maitre d' at the Fourth Reich ''Bank'', where they demand, and get, his financial statements to judge whether he is worthy of admission.
42	* ''Film/OSS117LostInRio'': 117 has to fight against Nazis in Brazil attempting to establish a Fifth Reich, since they apparently failed at creating a Fourth one.
43	* ''Film/OSS117CairoNestOfSpies'': The Nazis point out that it's been ten years since the end of World War, and so they deserve a second chance.
44	* ''Film/TheSumOfAllFears'' is a global political thriller wherein an Austrian tycoon [[EmptyQuiver obtains a nuclear device]] that was lost by the Israelis during [[UsefulNotes/ArabIsraeliConflict the Syrian incursion of the Golan Heights]]. The villain plans to detonate this device in Baltimore, Maryland and expects this to trigger nuclear warfare between the United States and the Russian Federation. After a coup for the German chancellery, Dressler aims to seize all of Europe and establish an enduring Fourth Reich. (The film is an adaptation of [[Literature/TheSumOfAllFears the novel]] by Creator/TomClancy, but with considerable changes to the plot; among others, this trope is not present in the book, where the villains were overall more realistic, and Arab terrorists rather than Nazis.)
45	-->'''Dressler:''' Hitler was not crazy; he was stupid. You don't fight Russia ''and'' America. [[LetsYouAndHimFight You get Russia and America to fight each other]].
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49	* This trope took off just about as soon as it was chronologically even possible. ''Literature/RocketShipGalileo'', the first of Creator/RobertAHeinlein's "sci-fi juveniles", was published in 1947 and features a [[SpaceBase secret Nazi base on the Moon]] dedicated to establishing a Fourth Reich. Readers of the time likely thought that landing men on the Moon was probably the most implausible part of the story.
50	* And there's the 1951 novel ''Simon Black in Peril''. The Australian AcePilot hero created by Ivan Southall battles Nazis who established a VolcanoLair during the war, and are now planning to take over the entire Pacific.
51	* ''Literature/DirkPittAdventures'': Dirk tangles with a family who are trying to do just this in the book ''Atlantis Found''. The family's master plan is called the Fourth Empire. Yes, they're based in South America. Yes, there is a [[spoiler:genetic connection to Hitler]].
52	* Douglas Muir's 1985 political thriller ''American Reich'', whose front cover's U.S. Presidency symbol has a black swastika against a red backdrop in the symbol's top center with its plot set in a post-Reagan-presidency near future.
53	* A neo-Nazi organization that calls ''itself'' the Fourth Reich makes a brief appearance in the ''Literature/{{Nightside}}'' series as one of the numerous factions contending over possession of the Unholy Grail. Subverted in that they are massacred ''en masse'' by competitors for the relic before they even see it -- never mind using its power to establish a new Nazi empire -- and only appear on-page as buckets of blood-spatter when Taylor and Suzie arrive to search their headquarters.
54	* A Christian End Times novel called ''The Fourth Reich'' has Hitler coming back as TheAntichrist, having been revived by and [[TheDragon directly answering]] to {{Satan}}.
55	* In Creator/RobertLudlum's ''The Holcroft Covenant'' (plus [[TheFilmOfTheBook the film based on it]]), a group of high-ranking Nazis placed millions in a Swiss bank and sent German children across the world to be used later for creating a new Nazi world order. More realistically than most depictions, it also has them do this by infiltrating governments, having people who get into various influential businesses, militaries, intelligence services etc. Then they can engineer a series of {{false flag operation}}s blamed on terrorists, which make the First World governments band together to stop terrorism with these covert Nazis manipulating them all into establishing authoritarian policies, including mass executions of criminals and what are strongly implied as concentration camps under different names. However, there's a [[RayOfHopeEnding ray of hope at the end]], as Israeli commandos are given their names and set to assassinate them.
56	** Ludlum later penned a spiritual successor novel named the ''Apocalypse Watch'', set in the 1990s where a band of neo-Nazis also infiltrated governments using Nazi-born children and try to poison the Western countries' water supply as a pretext. The protagonist is sent to stop them after his CIA brother was captured and forced to become the mole for the neo-Nazis.
57	* ''Literature/PassengerToFrankfurt'': The Countess von Waldsausen is orchestrating a worldwide movement to use student youth rebellions (this was a 1970 novel written by Creator/AgathaChristie soon after the May 1968 Paris unrest) to bring the Nazis back into power. Supposedly Adolf Hitler escaped alive to Argentina, and the Countess's front man being a young fellow who is supposedly Hitler's son (although it turns out to be a hoax).
58	* ''Literature/TheBoysFromBrazil'' by has an elderly UsefulNotes/JosefMengele proclaim that the Fourth Reich ''will'' emerge in the future, which is later revealed to be due to him [[spoiler:having created 94 [[YouClonedHitler clones of Adolf Hitler]] and covertly embedded them with select couples abroad more than a decade before the events of the book take place]]. He deems the time right for phase two: [[spoiler:assassinate the adoptive fathers, who are all civil servants, leaving the boys to be raised by their doting mothers, recreating the original Hitler's childhood]]. He's certain that [[spoiler:at least one will develop into the zealous, charismatic Führer for a new generation]]. The anti-Nazi protagonists also realize that several [[spoiler:Hitler clones]] potentially teaming up in the then-future 1990s is a ''very'' scary prospect. The book ends with [[spoiler:an unnamed Hitler clone drawing a picture of himself giving a Hitler-esque speech in front of a large audience]].
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62	* Stormfront, the BigBad of season two of ''Series/TheBoys2019'', seeks to create this by using modern alt-right tactics. [[spoiler:She is herself an ageless SuperSoldier created by the ''Third'' Reich who seeks to revive the empire she served.]]
63	* Referenced, possibly spoofed, on ''Series/{{Cheers}}''. Cliff claims that a new resident in his apartment building is actually Hitler and starts investigating him, at one point talking about preventing the "Fourth Reich." Eventually, his landlord tells him to cut it out...leading Cliff to conclude that Hitler had brainwashed him.
64	* ''Series/DoctorWho'': In the Seventh Doctor episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E3SilverNemesis Silver Nemesis]]," a group of neo-Nazis led by a Third Reich Nazi exile, plots to take over the titular statue in order to use it to establish the Fourth Reich.
65	** The spin-off ''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' novel "The Shadow in the Glass" saw the Sixth Doctor discover another Fourth Reich led by the secret son of Adolf Hitler, who is now the exact double of his father. However, this Fourth Reich uses what Hitler Junior believes to be a scrying glass to see the future and prepare for their new war, but the Doctor knows that the "glass" is actually part of an alien navigation system trying to manipulate the Nazis into bringing it back to its original ship. [[spoiler:The threat is dealt with when Hitler Junior forces the Doctor to take him back in time to meet his father, only for Hitler to dismiss his son as a madman and shoot him, allowing the Doctor's allies in the present to clean up the remaining Nazi cells]].
66	* ''Series/{{Hunters}}'' has a conspiracy of Nazis (both escaped original Nazis and Neo-Nazis) who want to establish a new version of the Third Reich in America.
67	* One of the wackier episode plots of ''Series/JAKQDengekitai'' involved a [[StupidJetpackHitler Nazi crocodile man]] trying to emulate Nazi Germany by kidnapping civilians and placing them in a new concentration camp he had set up. Definitely not the most family-friendly plotline in a {{Toku}} series.
68	* One episode of ''Series/LoisAndClark'' dealt with a coup by {{Human Popsicle}}s from Nazi Germany.
69	* ''Series/MissionImpossible'': ''At least'' three different episodes. One episode had the team infiltrate a group of neo-Nazis who had a SwissBankAccount showing the location of a cache of NaziGold which they intended to use to create a "Fourth Reich." Another had a man recruiting Nazis in Argentina for a Fourth Reich, ostensibly on behalf of Martin Bormann. A third had a former Nazi seeking to rise to power in Germany legally.
70	* ''Series/SuperGirl'': One crossover features Overgirl, a Nazi version of Supergirl from a Fourth Reich in a parallel dimension.
71	* The ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E21PatternsOfForce Patterns of Force]]" revolves around a rogue Federation scientist turning a primitive planet into a duplicate of Nazi Germany. He was hoping to replicate GermanicEfficiency but failed to take the nastier elements into account. His direct subordinate simply [[TheStarscream overthrows him]] and immediately prepares to invade and depopulate a peaceful neighboring planet.
72	* Spoofed in a sketch on ''Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus'' where "[[SueDonym Adolf Hilter]]" is running for office in England on the "National Bocialist" ticket, promising an Anschluss where the town of Minehead will annex the neighboring town of Taunton. He notably has no allies apart from his friends "Ron Vibbentrof" and "Mr. Bimmler."
73	* One Season 1 episode of ''[[Series/WonderWoman1975 The New Adventures of Wonder Woman]]'' is titled "Anschluss '77" and has this story, complete with a reanimated Adolf Hitler.
74	* One ''Series/MacGyver1985'' episode in its 4th season centered around a cabal led by [[NaziGrandpa elderly Nazis]] trying to manipulate their way into power in the U.S.; this episode debuted on the 100th anniversary year of Adolf Hitler's birth (1889) and 50th anniversary of World War II's (1939-1945) start.
75	* The 1997 ABC television miniseries of Robert Ludlum's 1995 political thriller novel, ''The Apocalypse Watch''.
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79	* ''TabletopGame/DeltaGreen'': The ''[[{{Ghostapo}} Karotechia]]'', the remnants of Hitler's occult program [[ArgentinaIsNaziland hiding in South America]] seek to create this. One of the few surviving members (after the organization was mostly destroyed in World War 2 and hunted down by Delta Green and Mossad), "Dr." Olaf Bitterich was contacted by the "ascended spirit" of Hitler, who claimed he became one of the ascended masters (along with Jesus, Buddha, and the High Priests of Atlantis) with the sacrifices of the concentration camps, and revealed his third book ''Mein Triumph'', ordering the creation of a Fourth Reich now based on occultism and magic. [[spoiler:The "Ascended spirit" is yet another mask of Nyarlathotep, being a dick as usual]]. "The Fourth Reich" technically refers to a massive conspiracy led by the Karotechia, as they control a network of ''Bauern'' ("Pawns") that indirectly work for them, believing they are working for the non-supernatural [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA ODESSA]] (an organization of escaped Nazis), composed by Nazi fugitives in South American and Middle Eastern militaries, criminal cartels, white supremacists, neo-fascists, neo-nazis and anti-zionist jihadis.
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83	* ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyVanguard:'' The BigBad of the game, [[SecretPolice SS-Untersturmführer Hermann Wenzel Freisinger]], [[NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed based off]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_M%C3%BCller_(Gestapo) Heinrich Müller]] seeks to bring back a Fourth Reich right from the ashes of the Third [[GovernmentConspiracy from the underground.]]
84	* In ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIron IV'' if West Germany somehow becomes fascist it will literally be named the Fourth Reich.
85	* ''VideoGame/TheNewOrderLastDaysOfEurope:''
86	** [[ZigZaggingTrope Zig-zagged]] by the Aryan Brotherhood, a [[RapePillageAndBurn raider statelet]] of BoomerangBigots who desperately try to ape Hitler's regime. If they succeed ([[DarkHorseVictory somehow]]), they will form the Russiky Reykh, right next to the Third Reich's colony in Moskowien, making this a rare case of an example of the trope co-existing with its inspiration.
87	** [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] by the [[FascistButInefficient terminally-dysfunctional]] Ordenstaat-Burgund, effectively the dumping ground for disgraced SS members including Heinrich Himmler, who [[spoiler: after failing to usurp the government in [[InsertNewCityNameHere Germania]] (Berlin) then intends to wipe out all human civilisation save for his own bunkers in a global thermonuclear war, repopulating from there]]. [[spoiler: Even if nuclear war happens people of all races and dreeds survive the bombs, and those in the bunkers are so conditioned to believe only Aryans could survive that they [[GoneHorriblyRight immediately accept them as fellow Aryans]], defeating the whole point of the entire plan.]]
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91	* ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'': Referenced multiple times:
92	** Adolf Hitler survived UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and made an attempt at this, according to Mephisto the Mentalist in [[http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-timeline/440-razzle-dazzle-part-2 "Razzle Dazzle (Part 2)"]]:
93	--->Adolph set up shop in Paraguay. Not that he lasted long. Losing the war really took it out of him. He managed to stick around just long enough to leech a bunch of ex-Nazis out of my "Master of the World" network and form his "Fourth Reich." He died in 1950, in Paraguay.
94	** From [[http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/content_page/9-original-canon/803-the-final-trump-part-2 "The Final Trump (Part 2)"]] it seems like a villain mentioned in other stories, Baron Blitzen, is involved with them, trying to get a thing called The Eye of Lemuria from a ship:
95	--->"...the target of Fourth Reich hijacking attempts," Mara said. "I happen to know that an alleged 'Mind Priest' of Lemuria happens to have 'acknowledged' Madam Cailleach, a, ah... colleague... of mine, as the 'Reincarnated Queen of Lemuria', and has attached himself and his followers to her entourage. I also happen to know that dear Kayley recently remarried, and is now Baroness Blitzen."
96	** Mentioned multiple times in [[http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/content_page/10-2nd-gen-canon/818-eisenmadel-2-summer-of-my-family-history "Eisenmadel 1: Summer of my German Heritage (Part 2)"]]:
97	--->[By about 1952,] the Fourth Reich was entrenched in the shadows of Latin America, Africa, and the South Pacific. The US needed someone who knew these people, knew how they acted and reacted.\
98	"With [Baron Dammerung]'s demise in 1965, and the Green Skull's that same year, the Fourth Reich began a slow spiral of destruction."
99	* ''Literature/MagicMetahumansMartiansAndMushroomCloudsAnAlternateColdWar'': A few years after WWII ends, Otto Skorzeny and other surviving Nazis carry out a contingency plan of Himmler's and awaken Frederick Barbarossa and his knights from their slumber under the mountain in order to retake control of Germany. Their combined forces declare the Holy Fourth Reich and launch a campaign that conquers Thuringia and marches on Berlin... where they're wiped out by the [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome vastly technologically superior Allied and Soviet occupational forces]].
100	* ''Literature/ForAllTime'': After [[spoiler: the Soviet Union collapses into nuclear civil war in]] the 1980's, the [[BalkanizeMe divided remnants of Germany]] reunify and go on to establish the National German Republic, led by Reich Chancellor Jörg Haider by the 2000's. Subverted in the sense that, while they're authoritarian, they don't bring back Nazi policies. In fact, under them, Germany's Jewish population actually ''increases'' to numbers not seen since the UsefulNotes/WeimarRepublic.
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104	* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'': In "Where No Fan Has Gone Before," in a sequence showing how the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom grew out of hand in the future, we see that the Trekkies had taken over Germany and rechristened it "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E21PatternsOfForce Nazi-Planet-Episode]] Land."
105	* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': Spoofed in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS4E9MrPlow Mr. Plow]]" with the German car company "Fourth Reich Motors", founded 1946 (i.e. just after World War Two ended). After a crash test demonstration, Lisa notices the "dummies" are ''moving'', and the salesman immediately closes their exhibition.
106	* ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'': During the "Secret Wars" arc, [[SufficientlyAdvancedAliens the Beyonder]] forces a group of superheroes to fight a group of supervillains on an alien planet. Although it's not shown in much detail, the empire carved out by the ComicBook/RedSkull shows that the aliens have started PuttingOnTheReich.
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110	* While obviously no Fourth Reich has ever come about in the real world ([[AllGermansAreNazis aside from the occasional joke about modern Germany's dominant position within the EU]]), comparisons of the length of each of the three previous Reichs has projected that if the Fourth Reich were to ever come about it would only last about [[EpicFail 2-3 weeks and could've already come and gone.]] There are minor Neo-Nazi groups within Germany to this day, but they are so superbly infiltrated by the federal authorities that they have no hope of ever attaining any real power, not to mention the ideology being intensely unpopular among most people (outside of neo-Nazis) by now.
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