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9	->'''Harry:''' Do you--do you think I want to--do you think I give a--I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO SAY! I don't want to hear ''anything'' you've got to say!\
10	'''Dumbledore:''' You will. Because you are not nearly as angry with me as you ought to be. If you are to attack me, as I know you are close to doing, I would like to have thoroughly earned it.
11	-->-- ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix''
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13	Curse that CrypticConversation-loving TricksterMentor! His insistence on being vague and mysterious to look "cool" is costing lives because PoorCommunicationKills. Maybe they told one too many things "[[Franchise/StarWars From a certain point of view]]" with said point of view [[MetaphoricallyTrue being self-serving]] [[IsThatWhatHeToldYou at best.]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo Or maybe he's pulled some]] ''[[ShootTheDog very]]'' [[BrokenPedestal morally dubious stunts that border on, if not cross over into, hypocrisy and their student just found out. ]] Well, the protégé isn't going to stand for it! He's CallingTheOldManOut on his vagueness with cries of "I want answers! ''Now!''" or "You lied to me!"
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15	Whether the mentor did it because he's trying to protect his protégé from knowledge [[AwfulTruth he doesn't need to know]], or would [[{{Masquerade}} expose him to danger]], or [[TreacherousAdvisor reveals the good guys as bad]], the net effect will actually be to endanger the hero and hamper his attempts to capture the villain.
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17	Expect the aloof mentor to defend his arguments by saying YouAreNotReady, or that he told the hero "what he needed to know, not what he wanted to know", that their OmniscientMoralityLicense means that no harm was done, or even he was being MetaphoricallyTrue. Whatever the case, if the mentor doesn't immediately dish out some good {{backstory}} or {{Exposition}} after being called out, then his protégé will turn his back on the mentor for breaking his trust and being disrespectful and irresponsible with the lives of others.
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19	When the mentor does this to their protégé, it's WhatTheHellHero. When the mentor deliberately incites their protégé to rage against them, it's DrillSergeantNasty.
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21	Rage Against the Mentor is the usual outcome of being mentored by TheSvengali, though this does also depend on how bright and/or strong-willed the protégé is.
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29	* ''Anime/CodeGeass'': [[MysteriousWaif C.C.]] does this in regard to the nature of Geass and her own past. Then again, [[TheChessmaster Lelouch]] doesn't try hard to crack her most of the time, since he's busy with other things. When he does try to make her talk, C.C. usually gets out of it by reminding Lelouch she's his trustworthy co-conspirator. [[spoiler: In reality, she's trying to use him to get out of her [[DeathSeeker curse of immortality]].]]
30	* ''Manga/DragonBall:'' Tien Shinhan has every reason to hate his former Martial Arts masters, Master Shen and Mercenary Tao for their harsh and abusive training methods. Tien is even given the opportunity to humiliate Tao in the World Tournament, but he shows as much respect and restraint as possible, trying to get Tao to forfeit multiple times until Tao voluntarily breaks tournament rules by slashing his former pupil's chest with a hidden blade. At that point, Tien decides that Tao, and by extension Shen, are BeyondRedemption. After he scores a [[OneHitKO victory against Tao]], Tien demands that they never show themselves to him again.
31	* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'': Resident BadassNormal Teana does this to her mentor Nanoha (and almost drags Subaru into it, as well) when she grows frustrated of seemingly not making any progress because Nanoha "deliberately holds her back". It is often referred to in the fandom as the "White Devil Incident". Of course, this being ''Nanoha'', [[spoiler:it is resolved in a very [[{{Squee}} heartwarming]] fashion and Nanoha's training eventually proves good enough for Teana to take out three Numbers at once, while injured, without any backup, whereas most other named characters have trouble taking them on one on one]].
32	* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'':
33	** ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'': [[HotBlooded Domon Kasshu]] is not happy [[spoiler:when he finds out that his mentor, Master Asia, reveals that he has allied with the [[MechanicalAbomination Dark/Devil Gundam]] and is using it for purposes unknown. Most of the series as Domon veering between wanting answers and simply wanting to kick Master's behind for his betrayal]].
34	** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'': [[spoiler:After ditching ZAFT and re-aligning with the Archangel crew, [[TheLancer Athrun Zala]] finds himself dealing with [[AntiVillain Shinn Asuka]], the young man he was attempting to teach how to be a soldier. Unfortunately, Shinn hardly ever gained any respect for Athrun, and when he runs from ZAFT, ultimately decides he has to die. Athrun is eventually forced to give the irrational, uncompromising Shinn [[CurbStompBattle a harsh reality check]] at the end of the series.]]
35	* ''Manga/MonochromeFactor'': Akira's attempts to find out more about the Shin and Kokuchi are frequently rebuffed by Shirogane until [[spoiler:Lulu reveals to Akira that Shirogane is a King of the Shadow. He then forces Shirogane to reveal that Akira is the reincarnation of the King of the Rei, or light.]]
36	* In ''Manga/{{Pretear}}'', Himeno demands that the Leafe Knights tell her the origins of the Princess of Disaster. When they eventually break down and tell her the truth, she's so stunned by the backstory that her confidence drops drastically and for a time she [[BroughtDownToNormal can't even use her powers]]--which just proves the Knight's reservations in the first place.
37	* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'': In the entirety of the show's run, [[MentorMascot Kyubey]] has been [[spoiler:yelled at, nearly got speared, shot to death, gotten hurt, and figuratively got demoted to garbage man through a loophole-abused wish]] by four of the five {{Magical Girl}}s, because [[spoiler:they [[YouDidntAsk purposefully hid details]] that the people they make contracts with should be aware of, [[AwfulTruth details]] that can [[DrivenToSuicide drive someone to suicide]], so the girls are naturally not happy regardless of Kyubey’s [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]] or [[AMillionIsAStatistic logical argument]]]].
38	* ''Manga/Reborn2004'': A villainous example is found with Xanxus towards the Ninth. Being an extremely violent and ill-tempered SpoiledBrat, he overreacted to the discovery of the Ninth not telling him that [[spoiler:he's actually ''not'' the Ninth's child, and therefore can't become the next Vongola boss]]. To the point where he readily [[spoiler:tricks Tsuna into accidentally killing the Ninth]] with little remorse or regret.
39	* ''Anime/SamuraiSeven'': Katsushiro does this after having been disillusioned by his mentor, who he had previously been holding up as a paragon of samurai virtues.
40	* ''Anime/YuGiOhGX'': Fed up with all the secrets and mystery, the new DarkerAndEdgier Judai threatens to flush his [[note]]formerly TreacherousAdvisor's[[/note]] SpiritAdvisor's spirit down the toilet in Season 4 unless he gets some straight, concrete answers.
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44	* ''ComicBook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderThePromise'': Roku keeps telling Aang he needs to be decisive and kill Zuko, and if he contemplated the world he would see that he needs to do this. So Aang contemplates the world, and sees the people he loves, including Zuko, while getting sick of Roku's vague advice ("What did you expect me to picture? Some floaty cosmic energy?"). He realizes that Roku's worldview of how the four nations must be kept separate is outdated and decides there's nothing more he can teach him, so he severs his spiritual connection to him.
45	* ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'': Every single freakin' ComicBook/{{Robin}}, though [[ComicBook/Robin1993 Tim]] does so the least and is generally rather unnervingly calm when he does call Bruce or Dick out. And most of the [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Batgirls]] at some stage. It's especially poignant since Batman is also [[CallingTheOldManOut a father figure]] to most of them.
46	** Subverted in one issue of ''ComicBook/{{Outsiders\|2003}}''. [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick]] is furious at Bruce for what he believes was an attempt to exert control over the new Outsiders by providing them funding through a subsidiary of Wayne Industries and secretly providing Arsenal with intel. Bruce explains that he really was just trying to help the new team by funding them -- they needed money, and he has money. Bruce just didn't want Dick to feel like he owed him anything. Dick calms down but says it was still wrong of Bruce to pass on intel to Arsenal without telling him. Bruce responds [[spoiler:by telling Dick that he hasn't spoken to Arsenal for over a year. Dick immediately calls Arsenal to warn him, only to find out that Arsenal is currently meeting with "Batman". Whoops, I mean ''Deathstroke'']].
47	* ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}'': Thorn has a very violent reaction to Gran'ma Ben's explanation of her past, culminating in a two-and-a-half book suicidal streak that was only halted by Fone Bone and Smiley Bone's YouAreNotAlone speech.
48	* In ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}''[=/=]''ComicBook/{{Shazam}}'': First Thunder'', Superman does this to the titular wizard after he finds out the lantern-jawed hero is nothing more than a 10-year old boy. Especially one who just went into a mad rampage after his best friend got killed.
49	* ''ComicBook/XForce'': Flagship character ComicBook/{{Cable}} inspired this from his first band of followers, the Six Pack. A big fan of IDidWhatIHadToDo at the time, Cable abandoned the Six Pack on a fateful mission that resulted in two of the Pack's members (Garrison Kane and Hammer, the former of whom was Cable's protégé) being crippled. Understandably, the Pack held a bitter grudge against Cable afterward, though, unlike Xavier above, he was eventually able to right his wrongs somewhat (he saved Kane from Stryfe, gave him new prosthetics from the 40th century, and offered to restore Hammer's spine) and make peace with his former friends.
50	* ''ComicBook/XMen'': ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} went on a slow-burn one of these in the 2000s towards his mentor, ComicBook/ProfessorX, as more and more evidence of Chuck's long history of {{Superdickery}} started to pile up. The straw that broke the camel's back was ''ComicBook/XMenDeadlyGenesis'', in which Cyclops found out that Chuck not only sent a secret third squad of X-Men to their deaths against the island monster Krakoa (among them Cyclops's own long-lost brother Vulcan), he also in the aftermath ''[[MoralEventHorizon wiped the minds of Cyclops and all the other X-Men to forget that Vulcan's team ever existed]]''. Understandably, Scott was '''pissed'''. So pissed, in fact, that he booted Xavier out of his own mansion!
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54	* ''Fanfic/AnAlternateKeitaroUrashima'': Granny Hina's plans to make Keitaro take over the Hinata Inn go OffTheRails when he learns about how she'd converted it into an all-girls dormitory ''before'' arriving. When she tries to force them back on track, she's repeatedly [[CallingTheOldManOut called out]] on how she keeps trying to manipulate everyone around her. Sadly, Hina dismisses all of these confrontations, firmly convinced that [[MoralMyopia everyone who disagrees with her methods is in the wrong]]. [[spoiler:By the time she ''does'' realize her mistakes, it's far, ''far'' too late to make amends: She has lost the Hinata Inn, her entire family has completely cut ties with her and wants nothing to do with her, and the general public treats her with contempt for how she previously behaved.]]
55	* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' has Dumbledore largely avoid this in favour of general ire being directed at the far more manipulative (i.e. Dumbledore is one of his many, many pawns) Doctor Strange, particularly by Wanda, his former student and essentially foster daughter, and Harry, his prime focus (and later [[spoiler:student]]), for his manipulative methods and extremely selective attitude to divulging the facts. Strange counters by saying that was necessary (and it's indicated that he's right), but agrees and accepts that they have every reason to be furious with him.
56	* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/22875676 Divergent Points - Feast]]'', Plagg confronts Master Fu over how his methods have been hurting Marinette and Adrien: by choosing Marinette as his sole successor as the next Guardian ''on top of'' her duties as Ladybug, he's been drowning her under the weight of all her responsibilities. At the same time, he's kept Adrien LockedOutOfTheLoop, leaving him feeling isolated, and his decision to take Plagg away during the events of "Feast" served as a traumatic reminder of his mother's disappearance. Plagg also points out that while the MutualMasquerade rule might be a good safeguard against Hawkmoth, both heroes had benefited more from knowing each other's identities as well as having Alya and Nino as confidants, especially when dealing with their issues. Fu [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizes what he had brought upon his chosen heroes]], and takes measures to not only apologize to Marinette and Adrien for how he treated them but also make their lives far easier.
57	* ''Fanfic/ForHisOwnSake'':
58	** As part of her attempt to convince Keitaro to return to the Hinata Inn and resume his duties as caretaker, Granny Hina reveals to him that [[spoiler:Naru is his '[[ChildhoodMarriagePromise Promise Girl]]']]. Unfortunately, this only helps him realize that she knew this little detail ''all along'', and had deliberately withheld that information until she believed she'd benefit more from the reveal. He then calls her out for being such a ManipulativeBitch.
59	** Naru lashes out at Seta when he tells her how [[DisappointedInYou disappointed he is]] that she used the skills he taught her to bully and terrorize others. Naturally, this is just another case of Naru [[NeverMyFault refusing to admit]] that she's done anything wrong.
60	** Keitaro gets a similar moment when Seta admits to him that he'd [[spoiler:actually been using him as a way to get closer to Haruka]].
61	* ''Fanfic/TheImmortalGame'': [[spoiler:Once they're reunited]], Twilight ''really'' tears into Celestia, calling her out on how she manipulated Twilight in order to mold her into her "perfect soldier". Celestia attempts to mend their relationship, but Twilight points out that she's ''still'' trying to manipulate her.
62	* ''Fanfic/TheLieIveLived'': After realizing that the Goblet of Fire wasn't being watched enough to prevent somebody from slipping his name in, Harry calls out Dumbledore on the lack of surveillance.
63	* ''Fanfic/TheNegotiationsVerse'': Twilight loved and admired Celestia above all else, choosing to trust her mentor's judgment despite her own doubts. In ''Truth'', she confronts Celestia about how this trust led to her losing practically everyone and everything else she'd cherished, and how Celestia had lied to, misled and manipulated her.
64	* In the ''Fanfic/NiceGuyAdrien'' AU ''Put the Cat Out'', after Marinette [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt resigns as Ladybug]] so that she won't have to deal with Chat Noir's [[EntitledToHaveYou gross sense of entitlement]] anymore, Master Fu confronts Adrien and attempts to recover the Black Cat Ring. Adrien refuses, outright ''attacking'' the Guardian while raging about how both Ladybug ''and'' Plagg belong to him, insisting that [[NeverMyFault it's all Fu's fault]].
65	* In ''Fanfic/TheNightUnfurls'', Sanakan and Hugh's {{flashback}} in Chapter 7 of the original [[{{Subverted}} subverts]] this trope. The two [[TheApprentice apprentices]] want answers from their MentorInSourArmor Kyril regarding the contract they've taken to become [[HunterOfMonsters hunters]]. It is then Kyril hints that he himself has "changed beyond all human reasoning", or rather, [[spoiler:he's [[HumanoidAbomination not even human]]]]. Worried that they themselves may turn into something worse one day, Sanakan is just about to call him out, only for Kyril to stop her from doing so. He then reassures the two that such an outcome would not come to pass, explains the reasoning for taking the two as his students, and last but not least, opens up to them about his motive to fight against the Black Dogs. The end result is that Kyril gains Sanakan and Hugh's trust as a kind and honest mentor.
66	* ''Fanfic/OperationGEAR'' has Olivia unleash one upon Matt after learning that he'd been hiding [[spoiler:how Rich had died]] from her.
67	* ''Fanfic/PartingWords'' diverges from [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the show's]] canon when Twilight calls Celestia out on her TricksterMentor tendencies and withholding of information and resources that [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have easily solved prior conflicts]]. In particular, she spells out that Celestia could have gotten her and her friends ''killed'' on several occasions, and when Celestia makes the mistake of revealing that she intended her latest mission to be a SecretTestOfCharacter, well...
68	-->'''Celestia: You have been told all you need to know! I told you, this was to be a test--'''\
69	'''Twilight:''' '''''A test?!''''' The fate of an entire kingdom at stake, and you want to make it a '''TEST?!''' All that tells me is that you ''already'' know the answers, and precisely how to fix it, and ''you just aren't telling me!'' I don't care what it is you're 'testing' me for. Forget it, I don't care! The welfare of other ponies is supposed to come first for a ruler, no matter what. So either tell me ''everything'' I need to know, or find somepony else to do this, '''''because I'm not going to imperil hundreds or even thousands of innocent ponies trying to get a gold sticker from you on a TEST!'''''
70	* ''Fanfic/PokemonMysteryDungeonSilverResistance'': Scythe is initially regarded as TheAce; over time, however, Char starts calling him out on things that he disagrees with.
71	* In ''Fanfic/TheQuestForGlory'', Babs Bestie meets her old mentor Terry, who now regards her as one of his biggest regrets, as he believes he brought out the worst in her and turned her into a CompetitionFreak. Babs disagrees with his assessment and lashes out at him.
72	* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/40396812 Snap Before You Break]]'': Izuku hits his RageBreakingPoint upon learning that [[SinkOrSwimMentor Aizawa]] expects him to work with the utterly uncooperative Katsuki for their final exam, calling him out on how he's made no effort whatsoever to curtail Katsuki's stubborn attitude and expects ''Izuku'' to work with his BarbaricBully and iron out the issues that ''Aizawa'' has refused to address. This builds into him taking Aizawa to task for his failure to support ''anyone'' in Class 1-A, having fostered an atmosphere of distrust with his "logical ruses". Later, he learns that [[TheChessmaster Principal Nedzu]] intentionally let this go on in order to see whether [[SecretTestOfCharacter Izuku would stand up for himself and his classmates]], and calls ''him'' out as well.
73	* ''Fanfic/TeamHanabi'': ''Redress'' has Ichigo snap and call out Chatot for [[PoorCommunicationKills how poorly he handled]] the Perfect Apples incident, spelling out that she hasn't trusted him ever since.
74	* ''Fanfic/ThreesACrowdNaruto'': Kakashi repeatedly refuses to address Sasuke and Uo's IneffectualLoner tendencies, dismissing it as simply "boys being stubborn and stupid" while expecting ''Sakura'' to whip them into shape, despite how both boys blatantly ignore and disrespect her. Sakura repeatedly calls him out on his flagrant {{Double Standard}}s, eventually spelling out for him that she '''refuses''' to be the only one trying to wrangle Team Seven into something that can legitimately be called a team:
75	-->'''Sakura:''' Despite what you may think, I don't need this team. There are at least four medics at the hospital that would likely take me on as an apprentice, especially if I showed them the skills that I've already taught myself. So from now on, I ''will not'' be the only one to put any effort into this team. Either you do your job as a sensei and ''make'' them work as a team, or you break up the team and call it a failure.
76	* ''Fanfic/TruthAndConsequences'': Thanks to Master Fu's mismanagement, Ladybug and Chat Noir both became deeply [[TheResenter resentful]] of each other -- Ladybug felt that Chat Noir never took anything seriously and was spared all of the responsibility that Fu heaped upon ''her'' shoulders, while Chat Noir hated being LockedOutOfTheLoop and wanted to be treated like an ''equal'' rather feeling like her "sidekick". As it becomes increasingly apparent to the other heroes how much of this stems from Fu's poor decisions, they grow increasingly frustrated with the old Guardian. By the end of the story, [[spoiler:they all ''despise'' him, but feel forced to keep him around anyway due to his knowledge about the Miraculouses]].
77	* ''Fanfic/VowOfNudity'': Spectra's warlock patron spends multiple stories tricking her into doing increasingly catastrophic things without her knowledge or consent. After her actions ultimately lead to an entire neighboring kingdom descending into bloody politically-driven anarchy, she finally starts screaming about how she's never going to trust or help him ever again, even after he's plucked her to safety and left her in the center of her hometown.
78	* The four in ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached'' are not pleased when the Fans (mostly Jeft) refuse to tell them important things, like, for example, why did George's ring [[PhlebotinumBreakdown stop working for a while?]] They do a fair bit of protesting against this behavior. Luckily for them, Shag takes their side and overrules Jeft's attempts to be mysterious. Jeff believes himself justified because [[spoiler: mystery makes for a better game]].
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82	* ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda1'': Tai Lung feels betrayed by Master Shifu as the latter did nothing when he wasn't chosen as the Dragon Warrior, despite training Tai Lung from childhood for that.
83	* ''WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}'': Titan becomes enraged at Megamind's refusal to join him as a crime team, dating the woman Titan is stalking, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking "Lying to Space-Step-Mom!"]]
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87	* ''Film/AllThePresidentsMen'': After Woodward and Bernstein screw something up and lose credibility, Woodward demands that his source (Deep Throat) start revealing real information.
88	* Towards the end of ''[[Film/TheHungerGamesCatchingFire Catching Fire]]'' Katniss is so furious with Haymitch that she attacks him with a needle. The reason? [[spoiler:Going back on his promise to save Peeta over her by making sure they rescued Katniss while Peeta was taken prisoner by the Capitol]].
89	* ''Film/{{Dragonheart}}'': The hero spends years training the prince to be an honorable knight, only to discover years later that the prince was just a bully who couldn't care less about honor when the prince attacks him.
90	-->'''Einon''': Lay down, Bowen! You're the sad remains of dead systems and dead beliefs!\
91	'''Bowen''': They were your beliefs!\
92	'''Einon''': Never! Never mine!\
93	'''Bowen''': ''(heartbroken)'' But... you spoke the words...\
94	'''Einon''': I vomited them up because I couldn't stomach them! Because I knew it was what you wanted to hear!\
95	'''Bowen''': No! I taught you!\
96	'''Einon''': You taught me to fight, that's all! I took what I needed from you. You taught me to fight!
97	* ''Franchise/TheMatrix'': Averted. Neo and Morpheus realize that the Oracle has been holding out on them and ask questions but they're not angry because her telling or not telling them things is usually for the better. [[spoiler:''Cypher,'' on the other hand, plays it much straighter--and to [[TheMole its logical extreme]]. He despises Morpheus’s vagueness, his loyalty to the Oracle, and above all his refusal to be upfront about everything. He fully believes that, had Morpheus been honest about what would happen if the Red Pill was chosen, no one would have chosen it, leading to his eventual FaceHeelTurn.]]
98	* ''Film/MysteryMen'': Mr. Furious gets sick of The Sphinx's gobbledygook and manages to corner him:
99	-->'''Sphinx''': Your temper is very quick, my friend. But until you learn to master your rage...\
100	'''Mr. Furious''': Your rage will become your master? That's what you were going to say, right? Right?\
101	'''Sphinx''': ...Not necessarily.
102	* ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' In the first movie Balboa lashes out at Mickey, but they quickly make up and Mickey helps him "not be a bum".
103	* ''Franchise/StarWars'': A classic way of saying MetaphoricallyTrue:
104	--->'''Obi-Wan Kenobi:''' So what I told you was true, from a certain point of view.
105	** Although by the time Luke Skywalker is able to talk to him properly, he's calmed down from hearing the AwfulTruth (it ''has'' been a full year, after all) and the conversation is civil.
106	** In the original novelization, Yoda states before his death that [[spoiler:"Obi-Wan would have told you (that Darth Vader is your father) long ago, had I let him..."]], which renders Luke's railing at Obi-Wan immediately thereafter somewhat redundant.
107	* ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon''. Sentinel Prime, Optimus' mentor and father figure, [[spoiler:turns out to be a traitor in league with the Decepticons and trying to enslave humanity to rebuild Cybertron, going against everything he taught Optimus. Optimus confronts him about it, but Sentinel merely replies with his WellIntentionedExtremist beliefs that rebuilding Cybertron is more important than humanity's freedom. Optimus doesn't accept that and ultimately executes Sentinel for what he's done]].
108	-->'''Sentinel:''' [[spoiler:Optimus... all I ever wanted... was the survival of our race. You must see... why I had to betray you.]]\
109	'''Optimus:''' [[spoiler:You didn't betray me. You betrayed ''yourself.'']]
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113	* ''Literature/TheBelgariad'': Fairly early on, Garion rages against his "Aunt" Polgara, whom he's recently discovered to actually be a centuries-old sorceress of nigh-unsurpassed wisdom and power, who quite clearly isn't ''actually'' his aunt... Granted, there really ''are'' a lot of rather significant things she isn't telling him, for reasons that aren't really explained anywhere in the series itself (it's AllThereInTheManual, though, or in this case, the stand-alone ''Polgara The Sorceress'' faux-biographical tome), but he was still somewhat out of line, claiming that lives of 'ordinary people' like him were mere pawns and playthings to her. Especially considering that she's spent the last several centuries personally safeguarding [[RoyalBlood his line]]...
114	* ''DeusExMachina'': Mentor the Arisian is the target of wails of angst from one of his advanced students in ''Children of the Lens'', when she's told that the breeding programme she's the ultimate expression of makes her "...in some ways, even less human than I am myself..."
115	* ''Literature/{{Deverry}}'': Rhegor gets this from Nevyn [[spoiler:after Brangwen and Gerraent die]]. Subverted in that the laws of dweomer say that someone has to ask the right questions in order to learn the information that Rhegor was withholding. Nevyn also gets this a few times (sometimes for less reason), and Dallandra catches a few hits too. Meanwhile, Salamander does withhold information at times, but it's not to someone he has a mentor-type relationship with.
116	* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': Harry Dresden does it to his mentor Ebenezer [=McCoy=], specifically in ''Literature/BloodRites''. The catalyst is the reaction [=McCoy=] and a mercenary named Kincaid have upon realizing that Dresden has recruited both of them for an attack on a bunch of Black Court vampires. Later, Harry confronts [=McCoy=], [[BrokenPedestal who tells him the truth about his job]] -- [[spoiler:that he's the Blackstaff, whose job is basically to do the White Council's dirty work. That pretty much means ignoring all of the principles and values that Ebenezar always taught Harry to uphold, and the resulting shock to Harry causes him to shun [=McCoy=] for at least three books]].
117	** In ''Literature/ProvenGuilty'', Harry and Ebenezer take steps towards a reconciliation a couple days after [[spoiler:Molly's trial]] when Harry realizes that ''someone'' had to have spoken on his behalf during his own trial, despite the fact that Ebenezer claimed not to have been present.
118	** Not only that, but Harry's been the mysterious mentor for an awful lot of people, especially Murphy, and he never lets himself forget how much trouble they could avoid if he only told them the forbidden Lovecraftian information.
119	** In ''Literature/GhostStory'', Molly (Harry's apprentice in magic) feels this way towards Harry after [[spoiler: his ill-considered suicide leaves Chicago unprotected against supernatural onslaughts, and inadvertently begins Molly's StartOfDarkness.]] She's long since reached a DespairEventHorizon, so her attitude is less "angry" than "[[BreakTheCutie melancholy]] and utterly [[DidYouThinkICantFeel disillusioned]]" but it still feels like this trope.
120	** Then there's Harry's relationship with his first mentor, Justin [=DuMorne=]. Harry's career began by killing the mentor who tried to turn him into a TykeBomb.
121	* ''Literature/GalaxyOfFear'': Hoole is the Arranda's uncle and guardian, and he's extremely secretive and doesn't like telling them anything for the first six books. When they find out what he's been hiding they both rage at and abandon him, then later [[ChangedMyMindKid come back]] to help him. For the rest of the series, he's still TheStoic but has a much better relationship with them, and no more big secrets.
122	* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': The titular protagonist tries this on Dumbledore a few times.
123	** He really lets Dumbledore have it in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix The Order of the Phoenix]]'', after an entire year's worth of [[PoorCommunicationKills bad communication]] ends in the worst way possible. Dumbledore recognizes that not giving Harry the information was "an old man's mistake", and asks for the chance to explain just how badly he messed up.
124	** Averting this becomes the plot for ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince''. Sure, [[EccentricMentor Dumbledore]] didn't spell it all out immediately, but he was giving Harry more help and equal treatment than several other vague mentors put together. If it hadn't been for his love of the GambitRoulette, he might have revealed it all to Harry by book's end.
125	** In the final book Harry confronts him with the fact that ''even then'', there were still things being kept from him. Harry doesn't need to scream here; Dumbledore's guilt is written plainly on his face; [[spoiler: he breaks down and cries]].
126	* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': Katniss spends a lot of the third book angry with Haymitch [[spoiler:for not fulfilling his promise to rescue Peeta, letting him become a prisoner of Capitol in favor of saving Katniss]]. Peeta's not very happy with him either at that point.
127	* ''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': The overarching plot of ''Literature/LoomingShadow'' is Eric raging against Dengel and the immense shadow he casts over all mages, himself included, because he literally wrote the book on magecraft but was a horrible person.
128	* ''Literature/OldScores'': When Salem [[spoiler:slaughters all of Simon's tentative human friends]], Simon retaliates by [[spoiler:nailing Salem to a boxing ring with his own sword]].
129	* In ''Literature/QuantumGravity'', [[spoiler:Lila]] gets a bit of this against [[spoiler:Sarasilien]], when she finds out that he was lying to her about quite a lot, the tipping point being the fact that he lied about his ''name''. She gets over it as much as she can when he readily admits to lying to her and says that, though he cannot tell her everything, he can tell her when there is something he can't tell her.
130	* ''Literature/TheRiddleMasterTrilogy'': The mysterious and highly ambiguous Deth borders on being a TreacherousAdvisor.
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134	* A stellar example of this appears in ''Series/BabylonFive'', in the third-season episode "Interludes and Examinations." After a season and a half of evasions and mysteries from DungeonMaster Kosh, Captain Sheridan snaps and refuses to back down until Kosh gives them the help they need, ignoring all dire warnings and accusations of impudence. This example plays out with more subtlety than most, as neither Sheridan nor Kosh is definitively wrong in this confrontation: it's portrayed more as a conflict between two characters of strong will, who think they know what is best, and a case can be made for both of them. [[spoiler:And then Kosh dies, as he knew he would after providing direct assistance to the anti-Shadow alliance.]]
135	* ''Series/Daredevil2015'': Matt Murdock meets the mysterious Stick - the man who trained him in martial arts, for the first time in nearly two decades, and his first response is to punch him in the face for abandoning him as a child. Stick then quips "Anything else?", and Matt replies, "You're a dick". The second season when Elektra comes calling for Matt reveals that she was also tutored by Stick as well, and seemingly has a better relationship with him until she decides that she wants to be more than [[{{Tykebomb}} his human weapon]] and severs ties with him. She later tries to kill him personally, though at that point, [[spoiler:Stick ordering a hit on her understandably pissed her off. Even if we later find out some [[ShootTheDog very good reasons why]] [[ApocalypseMaiden she's better off dead]]]].
136	* ''Series/{{Merlin\|2008}}'': Merlin seems to have had little enough patience with the Great Dragon throughout, but in the last episode, he turns on the Dragon for good [[spoiler:after learning that its sole motive in helping him was to secure its own release]].
137	** Well, considering what the Dragon does after [[spoiler:being released]], his hesitation is more than justified. Even more, when Merlin asks the Dragon to promise [[spoiler:not to hurt Camelot]], the reptile refuses to promise anything.
138	* ''Series/TheXFiles'': Mulder confronted Deep Throat about this in the first season finale. Of course, Deep Throat's motives were always open to interpretation.
139	* ''Franchise/KamenRider'' has done this a few times. To list off the examples...
140	** ''Series/KamenRiderDouble'' has Terui Ryu attacking Shroud after finding out [[spoiler:she's the one who gave Isaka the Weather Memory, which enabled him to murder Ryu's entire family]]. Her response after a brief fight and a reveal was that [[spoiler:she didn't know Isaka would be so insane that he'd be out of her control when she gave the memory to him and her giving Ryu the Accel Driver was her Plan B for getting back at her husband]]. She also apologized.
141	** ''Series/KamenRiderFourze'' had a similar story of TheRival fighting his mentor in the form of Sakuta Ryusei. Though this time, the mentor has a darker connection. [[spoiler:He's TheDragon for BigBad, manipulating him from the beginning. It didn't help that just a while ago, [[KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade the mentor sent away]], for lack of a better term, his girlfriend to a PhantomZone.]] Though the fight is rather curbstompy [[spoiler:what with the mentor's ability to just summon a Dark Nebula and sending people there whenever he pleases]]. [[spoiler:He does manage to send Ryusei and his friend back after he realizes that ruthlessness isn't as powerful as friendship]].
142	* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' angrily decides that Giles has "taught her everything [she] needs to know" when it's revealed that, behind her back, he had been plotting the murder of the ensouled Spike. This would probably have happened much earlier if Buffy had ever found out that [[ShootTheDog Giles also murdered Ben]].
143	* ''Franchise/StarTrek'':
144	** This sometimes gets crossed with the InsaneAdmiral trope whenever an admiral who goes rogue gets a verbal beatdown from an officer who served under him. Examples include:
145	*** [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Commander Riker yelling at Admiral Pressman]] for his experiments with an illegal [[InvisibilityCloak cloaking device]].
146	*** [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Captain Sisko yelling at Admiral Leyton]] for attempting a military coup against President Jaresh-Inyo.
147	** An episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' reveals that a SecretTestOfCharacter at one stage in Klingon martial arts training is for the master to repeatedly challenge the student to do something impossible so that after repeated painful failures the student will eventually do this and prove that they're mature and self-respecting enough not to trust their superior uncritically and put up with abusive behaviour. This fits perfectly, given that they are the trope namer for KlingonPromotion.
148	* Wil and Bandon in ''Series/TheShannaraChronicles'' both spend most of Season 2 being absolutely furious at Allanon. Wil resents him for [[spoiler: not revealing the fact that Amberle's quest would end with her having to make a HeroicSacrifice to restore the Ellcrys]], while Bandon blames him for pushing him too far and too fast in his magic studies and thereby [[spoiler: getting him spiritually captured by the Dadga Mor, resulting in him being corrupted by demon magic - which in itself is implied to fuel his anger.]] In both cases, Allanon's defense is that [[IDidWhatIHadToDo He Did What (He Thought) He Had To Do.]]
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152	* In ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'', the Toa protagonists got tired of how the Turaga elders only ever delivered their [[MrExposition exposition]] after a new menace had arrived to besiege their villages, and questioned their trustworthiness. Thankfully the Turaga anticipated this and had a heated argument between themselves on whether to confront the Toa and the rest of the islanders with the truth. Thus when the Toa arrived demanding answers, they were ready to offer them.
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156	* Mr. 450 turned against his mentor, Invader #3 at the World Wrestling League's 2014 ''Navidad Corporativa'' event for interfering with his sneak attack on Sensacional Carlitos.[[/folder]]
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159	* In the backstory of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', the primarch Alpharius of the Alpha Legion rebelled against the Imperium mainly out of resentment and anger towards Roboute Guilliman, his brother and teacher who looked down on Alpharius' dishonorable tactics. Also possibly a factor in Horus' rebellion against the Emperor.
160	** Arhra's rebellion against the other Asur was also strongly implied to be inspired by this trope.
161	** Angron held a deep grudge against the Emperor for teleporting him out the day just before the SlaveRebellion, saving only him and leaving his own men to die (and making him look like a coward). Eventually, he and his chapter pledge their allegiance to Khorne really quick.
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165	* A good chunk of Christine's part in the final trio of ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' involves her doing this to [[TheSvengali the Phantom]].
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169	* ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'': After Altair realizes that there's more to the nine men that [[TheMentor Al-Mualim]] is having him hunt down, he announces he's fed up with getting riddles and cryptic words from both sides.
170	--> '''Altair:''' You said the answer to my question would arise when I no longer needed to ask it. So I will not ask. I ''demand'' you tell me what binds these men!
171	* In the ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriorsGundam'' games, [[TheHero Kamille Bidan]] from ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' has this reaction when meeting the FallenHero version of his mentor Quattro Bajina (actually [[Characters/GundamCharAznable Char Aznable]]) from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack''.
172	--> '''Kamille:''' Lieutenant Quattro! What are you doing all the way out here?
173	--> '''Char:''' No, Kamille. I am Char Aznable. No more, no less. I have only [[BlatantLies friendly]] [[ColonyDrop intentions]].
174	--> '''Kamille:''' [[ArmorPiercingQuestion How do you plan on facing those who trusted you]]?
175	--> '''Char:''' ...
176	--> '''Kamille:''' Answer me, Char!
177	* Averted by Auron in ''Videogame/FinalFantasyX'', who was always forthright about the nature of Sin. It was Tidus who didn't want to hear it or realize it, so Auron never went out of his way to cram it down Tidus' throat (though Auron did goad him with the knowledge to slowly force him to accept it).
178	* ''VideoGame/HomeworldCataclysm'': The HopelessBossFight against the Bentusi race for fleeing instead of helping against The Beast EldritchAbomination, ending with the commander of the Kuun-Laan shaming them into helping with an emotional TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.
179	* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'':
180	** ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2'': it is Axel's evasiveness about Xion and Roxas' natures that [[spoiler: directly leads to Roxas' leaving the Organization.]] For the most part, Axel keeps the information under his hat because he believes it to be [[AwfulTruth something Roxas ''really'' doesn't need to know]]. That doesn't stop it from undermining Roxas' trust in him, though.
181	** ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'': [[spoiler: if Master Eraqus had simply told Terra that "Xehanort is evil and he's using Ven to further his plot" instead of outright attacking Ven while Terra watched, the two of them might not have had to fight each other, and unfortunately, this Rage Against the Mentor went a bit farther than most did.]] To his credit, he ''does'' seem to realize he's made a mistake and both of them are immediately [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone regretful]].
182	* In the ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' games, and other accompanying media, this is pretty much the catalyst for Jedi involvement in the Mandalorian War- and thus, the reason for the Jedi Civil War.
183	* ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'':
184	** ''VideoGame/Persona3'': After doing some research into a mysterious explosion at their school ten years prior to the game's setting, Yukari Takeba calls out Mitsuru Kirijo, a fellow member of SEES and resident {{Ojou}}, on knowing more than she's letting on about the Shadows. Mitsuru reveals that [[spoiler: the Kirijo Group, her family's corporation, had been conducting secret experiments on Shadows using the school as a secret laboratory. The experiment went out of control, and the resulting explosion dispersed the Shadows across the city.]] Mitsuru tries to justify her withholding of this information by saying that it "never seemed relevant."
185	** ''VideoGame/Persona5'': In one of the few cases where the calling out is ''more'' than justified, Yusuke is furious when he discovers his adopted father Madarame sees his students as nothing but fuel for his own ego and career. It turns to complete hatred when he finds out [[spoiler:Madarame [[MurderByInaction let his ill mother die]] to steal her last painting and take credit for it. Then adopted her son, Yusuke himself, to take advantage of his own artistic talents.]]
186	* ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' has a way more downplayed version. In some episodes like number four of season 1, Clementine shows herself to be more independent. [[spoiler: As you go looking for boats in Savannah Clem will come to your rescue no matter what. This shows that she doesn't trust Lee as much as she should, though her decisions did indeed lead to Lee escaping his predicament alive. Then, at the end of episode four, Clem goes missing. No, the Stranger did not kidnap her. In season 2 if you confess to Luke what happened it'll show that Clem ''ran away'' from Lee just to find her parents.]]
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190	* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'':
191	** Having seen the impact on former allies, [[BigGood Ozpin]] keeps many secrets, fearing that the AwfulTruth will [[DespairEventHorizon destroy people's hope]]. A friend betrays him to Salem and Ironwood turns on him in Volume 2. In Volume 5, Raven fails to talk Yang out of helping him, who instead demands his honesty from then on. In Volume 6, the heroes confront him once and for all, learn the AwfulTruth and [[BrokenPedestal turn on him]], causing him to [[HeroicBSOD break and retreat in despair]]. After struggling with the dilemma of whether to tell Ironwood the full truth, they learn the hard way that trust and truth are more complicated than they appreciated. In Volume 8, they reconcile with a repentant Ozpin, admitting they [[RebuiltPedestal finally understand]] his situation; however, his role permanently changes from leader to advisor.
192	** After Qrow learns the AwfulTruth about Ozpin in Volume 6, his shattered UndyingLoyalty sends him into a downward alcoholic spiral until he becomes TheLoad. After trying to shut down the heroes one too many times for trying to get the Relic of Knowledge to Atlas, Ruby snaps and yells at him that they've done remarkable things without adult help, so they're going to continue whether or not he approves. When he later berates himself for letting them continue, Ruby firmly tells him they would have carried on without him and they're no longer his responsibility. Although he sobers up and their relationships repair, the arc is the end of Qrow's role as Ruby's mentor.
193	** After Winter escaped her [[AbusiveParents abusive father]] by joining the military, General Ironwood became her mentor, grooming her to become a Special Operative and right-hand woman. Ironwood's [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil downward spiral]] into authoritarianism during the Atlas Arc sees her increasingly struggling to justify and support his decisions until she events defects to the heroes' side. When they fight, he lashes out at her "betrayal" while she declares him an enemy of the kingdom he once swore to protect; their relationship is severed for good.
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197	* ''Webcomic/CaptainSNES'': While Alexander Williams has yet to get many concrete answers from Bob, he has called him out for his secrecy to the point of ''[[http://www.captainsnes.com/2003/01/29/270-bad-call/ suplexing him into a table]]''.
198	* ''Webcomic/M9Girls'': Pato lets the Professor have it when he confesses the real reason he hired them as his interns.
199	* ''Webcomic/MobPsycho100'': Mob eventually gets fed up with Reigen overworking him (particularly when some friends ask him on a night out and Reigen brushes it off as them trying to take advantage of Mob) and takes a break from exorcising to teach him a lesson. They do reconcile, but after Reigen gets a good dose of character development.
200	* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Roy calls out the ghost of his father for giving him a crucial [[ProphecyTwist but extremely vague]] piece of advice that could have led to a TotalPartyKill had it been misinterpreted. His father justifies this by pointing out that if he ''had'' phrased it as a direct command, Roy would have refused to do it on principle. Given [[IAmNotMyFather how Roy feels about this particular mentor in general]], he's probably right.
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204	* ''{{Literature/Worm}}'' has a version of this in Taylor's decision after Armsmaster [[spoiler:outs that she is a mole in the Undersiders]].
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208	* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderZuko Zuko]] had a habit of doing this toward Iroh, particularly in Book 1, but it was often played for laughs. However, in "The Ember Island Players", when showing the events of "Crossroads of Destiny", Actor!Zuko delivers a massive one to Actor!Iroh. Although the real Zuko never actually said anything like that to Iroh in the events of the actual episode, Zuko clearly regrets how he had treated Uncle.
209	-->'''Actor!Zuko''': I hate you, Uncle! You smell, and I hate you for all time!\
210	'''Katara''': You didn't really say that, did you?\
211	'''Zuko''': I might as well have.
212	** [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderAvatarAang Aang]] does this to Jeong Jeong when he gets frustrated with Jeong Jeong's teaching methods, including not letting him actually firebend yet. Jeong Jeong proceeds to calmly explain what happened when his [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil last student]] failed to learn restraint.
213	* ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'': The climax of the Hybreed AlienInvasion MythArc involves [[Characters/Ben10BenTennyson Ben Tennyson]] raging against his mentor Asmuth over the issue of finding a non-lethal solution to their invasion, with Asmuth asserting that killing them is the only option.
214	* In the Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse, Dick Grayson quitting as Robin and becoming Nightwing instead was a result of one of these. Although the two patched up things somewhat later, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' implies he's still somewhat bitter about this, seventy years later.
215	* Used by the kids in the ''WesternAnimation/DungeonsAndDragons1983'' episode "The Dragon's Graveyard", when despite their mentor's protests (they're planning to... ahem, [[NeverSayDie take care]] of Venger once and for all), they get some straight answers from Dungeon Master regarding Tiamat and their own weapons.
216	* [[Characters/FriendshipIsMagicTwilightSparkle Twilight Sparkle]] gets a very short one of these, barely a scene long, in the third season episode "Keep Calm and Flutter On" of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. When Celestia brings [[MeaningfulName Discord]] to Ponyville and tells the Mane 6 that she expects them to reform him Twilight promptly screams a query of Celestia's sanity right in the Princess's face.
217	* ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'': Towards the end of season two [[Characters/TheOwlHouseLuzNoceda Luz Noceda]], already [[TraumaCongaLine near a breaking point]], ''loses it'' when she finds out Eda plans to send her and King away from the impending fight. It's bad enough that Luz attacks her own mentor and [[ParentalSubstitute mother figure]].
218	* ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'': At the end of "Turning Point," Spider-Man has had enough of [[AllPowerfulBystander Madame Web's]] cryptic and unhelpful nature, especially when she states she can't/won't retrieve Mary Jane from the dimensional limbo the Green Goblin sent her to, and ''explodes'' on her, screaming at her to leave him alone. She obliges, only returning come the show's final arc.
219	-->'''Madame Web''': This is the path you chose for yourself. To do things on your own. Once that decision is made there is no turning back. It is yet another thing that you have to learn.\
220	'''Spider-Man''': Learn?! I am ''tired'' of you... [[FigureItOutYourself and your riddles. And your]] ''[[FigureItOutYourself lessons!]]'' And your SUPREME ARROGANCE! Don't you ever, ''EVER'' enter my life again! Do you hear me? '''''DO YOU HEAR ME?!'''''
221	* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'':
222	** Red Arrow vehemently called out the Justice League (by extension, Green Arrow) and quits, seeing that the Justice League didn't take him seriously and treated him only as a sidekick. Robin, Kid Flash, and Aqualad did a minor one, where they threatened to leave also. The League relented and TheTeam was born.
223	** [[spoiler:Aqualad/Kaldur'ahm]] in the second season, against [[spoiler:Aquaman]], for [[spoiler: having lied to him about the identity of his true father, Black Manta, for years]], which plays part in his FaceHeelTurn. [[spoiler: Turns out he's undercover and it was at least partly an act.]]
224	** [[spoiler:The original Roy Harper]] blames Ollie for letting him be kidnapped, maimed, and replaced. He also calls him out on giving up on him while [[spoiler:his own clone]] picked up the slack and rescued him. He finishes it up by calling Ollie useless. After this, combined with [[spoiler:Artemis faking her death]], Ollie is [[ItsAllMyFault crushed]] and considers himself to be the worst mentor ever. Red Arrow then ''inverts'' this trope and gives Ollie a YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech.
225	** Interestingly enough, it's averted when Dick Grayson becomes Nightwing. Here, it isn't because he's angry at Bruce, it's because he felt the need to grow up and become his own man [[spoiler:and because he's now the team leader]].
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