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** Fizi. Some of them really annoyed with his InnocentlyInsensitive persona, even claim that he actually BitchInSheepsClothing. While some of them defend that as 5 years old child, he still not understand between right and wrong of his attitude and his conversation.

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** Fizi. Some of them really annoyed with his InnocentlyInsensitive persona, even claim that he actually BitchInSheepsClothing. While some of them defend that as 5 years old a child, he still not understand between right and wrong of his attitude and his conversation.



** Tok Dalang is remembered fondly by the fanbase for his CoolOldGuy qualities and some of his cool creations, such as ''[[CoolBike the TDR-3000.]]''



** Post Season 2, Tok Dalang has gained this status as he seemingly be able to do anything as demanded, as well as being a good role model towards the kids.



* RonTheDeathEater: After his moment when he insensitively responded to the twins that if they have no mother they can't go to the paradise, Fizi has gained this status among the fanbase and is regarded as being [[BitchInSheepsClothing mean and secretly evil]]. Few would occasionally point out some of the mean moments prior to the above, such as accusing Jarjit for wanting to become a thief, or teasing on Ehsan for his limited eyesight, something that he can't fully control. Lately, he gained more flak after belittling the twins for not having any strand of hair.



** Fizi in ''Eid Fitr special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this. It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the some of viewer defend on him that it's part of his InnocentlyInsensitive and he still 5 years old child, and writer probably intend this scene to shown that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" and cowardy persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade".]]Which made viewer thinking that he is worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.

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** Fizi in ''Eid Fitr special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this. It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the some of viewer defend on him that it's part of his InnocentlyInsensitive and he still 5 years old child, and writer probably intend this scene to shown that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" and cowardy persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade".]]Which "facade"]], which made viewer thinking that he is worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.
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* HilariousInHindsight: After the debut of Ultraman Ribut, the kids play at being Ultramen with identical masks, only to get into an argument because "we can't both be Ultraman." [[Series/UltramanRB Turns out it's possible.]]

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** Kak Ros. Due to some ValuesDissonance and {{Flanderization}} of her treatment over the Twins which made people view that she is so antagonistic toward them, some viewer can see her treatment toward the Twins, her FreudianExcuse and her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold personality are quite understandable]].

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** Kak Ros. Due to some ValuesDissonance and {{Flanderization}} of her treatment over the Twins which made people view that she is so antagonistic toward them, some them. While most of viewer can see her treatment toward the Twins, her FreudianExcuse and her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold personality are quite understandable]].



** In a very rare extent: Kak Ros.


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** In a very rare extent: Kak Ros.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that ''Upin & Ipin'' is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, so those who are non-Muslims simply don't get it and see it as a dumb, unintertaining show.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that ''Upin & Ipin'' is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, so those who are non-Muslims simply don't get it and see it as a dumb, unintertaining show.unentertaining show.
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** Fizi. Some of them really annoyed with his InnocentlyInsensitive persona, even claim that he actually BitchInSheepsClothing. While some of them defend that as 5 years old child, he still not understand between right and wrong of his attitude and his conversation.
** Kak Ros. Due to some ValuesDissonance and {{Flanderization}} of her treatment over the Twins which made people view that she is so antagonistic toward them, some viewer can see her treatment toward the Twins, her FreudianExcuse and her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold personality are quite understandable]].



** Fizi in ''Eid Fitr special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this. It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the writer probably intend this scene to shown that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" and cowardy persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade".]]Which made viewer thinking that he is worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.

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** Fizi in ''Eid Fitr special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this. It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the some of viewer defend on him that it's part of his InnocentlyInsensitive and he still 5 years old child, and writer probably intend this scene to shown that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" and cowardy persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade".]]Which made viewer thinking that he is worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.

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* MemeticBadass:
** Mail always being targeted into this. Mainly because sometime he become OnlySaneMan to the twins friends and his character close to "cool kid" in fiction. To the point, older viewer like to joke his interaction with Mei-mei as a ShipTease while in-universe, he has PuppyLove to Susanti.



** Fizi in ''Eid Fitri special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this.It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the writer probably intend this scene to shown that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade".]]Which made viewer thinking that he is worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.

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** Fizi in ''Eid Fitri Fitr special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this.this. It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the writer probably intend this scene to shown that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" and cowardy persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade".]]Which made viewer thinking that he is worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that ''Upin & Ipin'' is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, so those who are non-Muslims simply don't get it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: In a very rare extent: Kak Ros.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that ''Upin & Ipin'' is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, so those who are non-Muslims simply don't get it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining unintertaining show.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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In a very rare extent: Kak Ros.Ros.
** Mail also loved by viewer. Due to him being RunningGag of his MoneyFetish and sometime his character is close to most typical "cool kid" in fiction.
** Jarjit Singh. Because his character is so meme-able to older viewer, full of LargeHam and ''never'' stop using "poem" every time when he talk to the others.
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** Fizi in ''Eid Fitri special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this.It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the writer probably intend this scene to shown that children and parents that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade"]] even worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.

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** Fizi in ''Eid Fitri special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this.It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the writer probably intend this scene to shown that children and parents that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade"]] even "facade".]]Which made viewer thinking that he is worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Fizi in ''Eid Fitri special in 2020'' ultimately fell into this.It's start when He, the twins and Mail talking about "Paradise lies beneath mothers feet". When the twins realized they are orphans, Fizi playfully mock them that they "will" not enter the paradise since they are motherless, which leaving them completely silent and sad over his statement. Instead of he feel bad or apologize at them, he ''laughs'' at that which make Mail hit him out of anger. While the writer probably intend this scene to shown that children and parents that children need to have or know social filter while socialize, most of viewer lost their respect to his character especially that most of Upin and Ipin friends know that they are orphans. To the point, most of them make some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that his "cry baby" persona actually was his[[BitchInSheepsClothing "facade"]] even worse from his SpoiledBrat cousin, Ehsan.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It is wildly popular in Indonesia to the extent where ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' looks obscure, with (often bootleg) merchandises being sold all over the place. This is partly due to most of the Malaysian language [[YouNoTakeCandle sounding hilarious]] in Indonesian. Noteworthy because prior to its introduction, Indonesians hated the living shit out of Malaysia and everything in it for "stealing" their culture.
** It was kind of ironic, because it was actually an Indonesian who made said cartoon. When it aired for the first time, the reception was bad, so they had to cancel the show. Afterwards, Malaysia bought the copyright, and it became said popular franchise in Indonesia.
* {{Narm}}: The English dubs. If you are not used to hearing Malaysian-English, their dialogues might be a bit hard to take seriously. Some voices could count as well.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It is wildly popular in Indonesia to the extent where ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' looks obscure, with (often bootleg) merchandises being sold all over the place. This is partly due to most of the Malaysian language [[YouNoTakeCandle sounding hilarious]] in Indonesian. Noteworthy because prior to its introduction, Indonesians hated the living shit out of Malaysia and everything in it for "stealing" their culture.
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culture. It was kind of ironic, because it was actually an Indonesian who made said cartoon. When it aired for the first time, the reception was bad, so they had to cancel the show. Afterwards, Malaysia bought the copyright, and it became said popular franchise in Indonesia.
* {{Narm}}: The English dubs. If you are not used to hearing Malaysian-English, their dialogues might be a bit hard to take seriously. Some voices could count as well.



* UncannyValley: Jarjit looks like somewhere between a short grown man or a fast-growing kid and it's a bit unsettling. Though it's most obvious that he's voiced by an adult as shown in the credits.
** The monkeys. Their large eyes make them look a bit too human (in the standards of the show's art style). [[FridgeLogic But who's not to say]] RealLife [[FridgeLogic ones aren't just as much]]?

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* UncannyValley: UncannyValley:
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Jarjit looks like somewhere between a short grown man or a fast-growing kid and it's a bit unsettling. Though it's most obvious that he's voiced by an adult as shown in the credits.
** The monkeys. Their large eyes make them look a bit too human (in (by the standards of the show's art style). [[FridgeLogic But who's not to say]] RealLife [[FridgeLogic ones aren't just as much]]?style).
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* HypeBacklash: Many people hate this show, especially non-Muslims, along with ''Animation/BoBoiBoy'' and ''Series/WaktuRehat'' when these shows aired on Creator/DisneyChannel Asia. This is because the audience doesn't like Malaysian content "hijacking" this channel, moreover, sending the channel into NetworkDecay. Since it's a show about Malay-Muslims living in rural area, it doesn't click well for those who are not Muslims and the urban ones.
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* Squick: {{Squick}}: See UnusualEuphanism UnusualEuphemism on main page
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* SelfFanservice: Unfortunately, Kak Ros is '''occasionally''' a victim to this.

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* SelfFanservice: Unfortunately, Kak Ros is '''occasionally''' a victim to this. If you're a Malay watcher and a fan of the show, we recommend you ''not'' to search any of the artwork if you don't want to see any of your childhood being ruined.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: In a very rare extent: Kak Ros.


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* SelfFanservice: Unfortunately, Kak Ros is '''occasionally''' a victim to this.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin & Ipin is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, so those who are non-Muslims simply don't get it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin ''Upin & Ipin Ipin'' is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, so those who are non-Muslims simply don't get it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It is wildly popular in Indonesia to the extent where ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' looks obscure, with (often bootleg) merchandises being sold all over the place. This is partly due to most of the Malaysian language [[YouNoTakeCandle sounding hilarious]] in Indonesian. Noteworthy because prior to its introduction, Indonesians hated the living shit out of Malaysia and everything in it for "stealing" their culture.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It is wildly popular in Indonesia to the extent where ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' looks obscure, with (often bootleg) merchandises being sold all over the place. This is partly due to most of the Malaysian language [[YouNoTakeCandle sounding hilarious]] in Indonesian. Noteworthy because prior to its introduction, Indonesians hated the living shit out of Malaysia and everything in it for "stealing" their culture.



* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with Boboiboy and Waktu Rehat when these shows aired on Disney Channel Asia. This is because the audience doesn't like Malaysian content "hijacking" this channel, moreover, sending the channel into NetworkDecay. Since it's a show about Malay-Muslims living in rural area, it doesn't click well for those who are not Muslims and the urban ones.

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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates hate this show show, especially non-Muslims, along with Boboiboy ''Animation/BoBoiBoy'' and Waktu Rehat ''Series/WaktuRehat'' when these shows aired on Disney Channel Creator/DisneyChannel Asia. This is because the audience doesn't like Malaysian content "hijacking" this channel, moreover, sending the channel into NetworkDecay. Since it's a show about Malay-Muslims living in rural area, it doesn't click well for those who are not Muslims and the urban ones.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin & Ipin is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, So those who are non-Muslims simply don't get it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin & Ipin is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, So so those who are non-Muslims simply don't get it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin & Ipin is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, So those who are non-Muslims simply hate it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin & Ipin is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. Moreover, this show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims rural community, So those who are non-Muslims simply hate don't get it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin & Ipin is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. This is because that this cartoon about Malay-Muslims living in rural area, So those who are non-Muslims simply hate it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin & Ipin is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. This is because that Moreover, this cartoon about show is tailored towards the Malay-Muslims living in rural area, community, So those who are non-Muslims simply hate it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite that Upin & Ipin is successful in Malaysia and Indonesia, the show is widely hated outside those countries. This is because that this cartoon about Malay-Muslims living in rural area, So those who are non-Muslims simply hate it and see it as a dumb, unentertaining show.
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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with Boboiboy and Waktu Rehat when these shows aired on Disney Channel Asia. This is because the audience doesn't like Malaysian content hijacking this channel, moreover, sending the channel into NetworkDecay. Since it's a show about Malay-Muslims living in rural area, it doesn't click well for those who are not Muslims and the urban ones.

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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with Boboiboy and Waktu Rehat when these shows aired on Disney Channel Asia. This is because the audience doesn't like Malaysian content hijacking "hijacking" this channel, moreover, sending the channel into NetworkDecay. Since it's a show about Malay-Muslims living in rural area, it doesn't click well for those who are not Muslims and the urban ones.
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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with Boboiboy and Waktu Rehat when these shows aired on Disney Channel Asia.

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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with Boboiboy and Waktu Rehat when these shows aired on Disney Channel Asia. This is because the audience doesn't like Malaysian content hijacking this channel, moreover, sending the channel into NetworkDecay. Since it's a show about Malay-Muslims living in rural area, it doesn't click well for those who are not Muslims and the urban ones.
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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with Boboiboy and Waktu Rehat when these show aired on Disney Channel Asia.

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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with Boboiboy and Waktu Rehat when these show shows aired on Disney Channel Asia.
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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with BoBoiboy and Waktu Rehat when these show aired on Disney Channel Asia.

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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with BoBoiboy Boboiboy and Waktu Rehat when these show aired on Disney Channel Asia.

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* Hype Backlash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with BoBoiboy and Waktu Rehat when these show aired on Disney Channel Asia.


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* HypeBacklash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with BoBoiboy and Waktu Rehat when these show aired on Disney Channel Asia.
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* Hype Backlash: Many people hates this show especially non-Muslims, along with BoBoiboy and Waktu Rehat when these show aired on Disney Channel Asia.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It is wildly popular in Indonesia to the extent where ''SpongebobSquarepants'' looks obscure, with (often bootleg) merchandises being sold all over the place. This is partly due to most of the Malaysian language [[YouNoTakeCandle sounding hilarious]] in Indonesian. Noteworthy because prior to its introduction, Indonesians hated the living shit out of Malaysia and everything in it for "stealing" their culture.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It is wildly popular in Indonesia to the extent where ''SpongebobSquarepants'' ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' looks obscure, with (often bootleg) merchandises being sold all over the place. This is partly due to most of the Malaysian language [[YouNoTakeCandle sounding hilarious]] in Indonesian. Noteworthy because prior to its introduction, Indonesians hated the living shit out of Malaysia and everything in it for "stealing" their culture.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: This show is pretty much ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' in Malaysia.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It is wildly popular in Indonesia to the extent where ''SpongebobSquarepants'' looks obscure, with (often bootleg) merchandises being sold all over the place. This is partly due to most of the Malaysian language [[YouNoTakeCandle sounding hilarious]] in Indonesian. Noteworthy because prior to its introduction, Indonesians hated the living shit out of Malaysia and everything in it for "stealing" their culture.
** It was kind of ironic, because it was actually an Indonesian who made said cartoon. When it aired for the first time, the reception was bad, so they had to cancel the show. Afterwards, Malaysia bought the copyright, and it became said popular franchise in Indonesia.
* {{Narm}}: The English dubs. If you are not used to hearing Malaysian-English, their dialogues might be a bit hard to take seriously. Some voices could count as well.
* UncannyValley: Jarjit looks like somewhere between a short grown man or a fast-growing kid and it's a bit unsettling. Though it's most obvious that he's voiced by an adult as shown in the credits.
** The monkeys. Their large eyes make them look a bit too human (in the standards of the show's art style). [[FridgeLogic But who's not to say]] RealLife [[FridgeLogic ones aren't just as much]]?
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