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* ShoutOut: An image of Sonic the monkey from [[Manga/BloodBlockadeBattlefront Nightow's other work]] can be seen on Roberto's makeshift ashtray.
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* IncestYayShipping: Knives's obsession with Vash and obtaining his power is so twisted and intense it shades into disturbingly romantic, which has not gone unnoticed by fans. Knives comes across as [[CrazyJealousGuy possessive over his brother]]. While he believes Rem made Vash "sick" with lies about humanity, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of how Vash loved her, and when he tries to choke Luida, he calls her a "witch" for "stealing" Vash from him. Knives loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''startlingly'' romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" He speaks far more gently to Vash than anyone else, and the cult of the Eye of Michael he founded? Its scripture regards "twin angels" reuniting to be together in eternity, and Knives says to Vash's face that paradise would be incomplete without him. It goes on and on.

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* IncestYayShipping: Knives's obsession with Vash and obtaining his power is so twisted and intense it shades into disturbingly romantic, which has not gone unnoticed by fans. fans; Knives comes across as [[CrazyJealousGuy incredibly possessive over his brother]]. While he believes Rem made Vash "sick" with lies about humanity, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of how much Vash loved her, and when he tries to choke Luida, he calls her a "witch" for "stealing" Vash from him. Knives him, and finally loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''startlingly'' romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" He speaks far more gently to Vash than anyone else, and the cult of the Eye of Michael he founded? Its scripture regards "twin angels" reuniting to be together in eternity, and Knives says to Vash's face that paradise would be incomplete without him. It goes on and on.

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The show makes it very clear that the way Knives feels about Vash is terrifyingly obsessive, that's not arguable. But the trope is about shipping, not what the show says.


* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash, though arguably the subtext seems to not present this as a good thing. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy disturbingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" which could be read as romantic. Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.
** In the dub as Vash desperately holds onto his memory of Rem, he yells, "I need you!" Knives then cuts down Rem's image while coldly saying, "You need your brother." Earlier he tells Vash that his paradise is incomplete without him.
** Knives [[spoiler:[[MindRape breaking Vash's mind]] in order to impregnate the other Plants]] can be read as having overtones of sexual assault, given that he more or less forces himself on [[spoiler:Vash, literally stabbing/penetrating him to connect with his mind with Vash thrashing and struggling, the portal to the "other dimension" being rather yonic, Vash "blooming" actual flowers as a result, and Knives screaming to be "let back in" (or even more blatantly in English, "Take me back!") after Vash regains control over his powers and closes his Gate.]]

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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives Knives's obsession with Vash and Vash, though arguably the subtext seems to obtaining his power is so twisted and intense it shades into disturbingly romantic, which has not present this as a good thing. In this iteration, gone unnoticed by fans. Knives comes off across as [[CrazyJealousGuy disturbingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. brother]]. While it's due to him believing he believes Rem had spun made Vash "sick" with lies about humanity to Vash, humanity, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of how Vash loved her, and when he tries to choke Luida, he calls her a "witch" for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He "stealing" Vash from him. Knives loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''startlingly'' romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" which could be read as romantic. Compared to most others he He speaks to, Knives is much far more gentle around Vash. Even gently to Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone than anyone else, and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels he founded? Its scripture regards "twin angels" reuniting as one to be together in the end.eternity, and Knives says to Vash's face that paradise would be incomplete without him. It goes on and on.
** In the dub as Vash desperately holds onto his memory of Rem, he yells, "I need you!" Knives then cuts down Rem's image while coldly saying, "You need your brother." Earlier he tells Vash that his paradise is incomplete without him.
** Knives [[spoiler:[[MindRape breaking Vash's mind]] in order to impregnate the other Plants]] can be read as having has strong overtones of sexual assault, given that he more or less forces himself on [[spoiler:Vash, literally stabbing/penetrating him to connect with his mind with as Vash thrashing thrashes and struggling, struggles, the portal to the "other dimension" plane" being rather yonic, the Core Knives draws power from possibly even more so, Vash "blooming" actual flowers as a result, and Knives screaming to be "let back in" (or even more blatantly in English, "Take me back!") after Vash regains control over his powers and closes his Gate.]]



** The drastic YoungerAndHipper redesigns, CGI animation (even despite [[Creator/RoughDraftStudios Orange's]] involvement), brighter color pallet, Meryl's AdaptationalWimp treatment, and Milly seemingly being replaced with a new male character have led to ''Trigun Stampede'' NOT initially being well received by the western fanbase. Even after people warmed on the show, the reveal of [[spoiler:[[OlderThanTheyLook Elendira being over twenty years old and still looking like a child]]]] in episode 5 has soured a lot of her fans. The pacing has also been criticized for being way too fast with zero room to breathe and get to know the characters and world like the manga and 1998 anime do. This is especially noticeable with [[spoiler:Tessla]], who is brought up but the series doesn't actually go into how the twins reacted to them and how it plays into their development, though the subject is left open-ended for later seasons.

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** The drastic YoungerAndHipper redesigns, CGI animation (even despite [[Creator/RoughDraftStudios Orange's]] involvement), brighter color pallet, Meryl's AdaptationalWimp treatment, and Milly seemingly being replaced with a new male character have led to ''Trigun Stampede'' NOT initially being well received by the western fanbase. Even after people warmed on the show, the reveal of [[spoiler:[[OlderThanTheyLook Elendira being over twenty years old and still looking like a child]]]] in episode 5 has soured a lot of her fans. The pacing has also been criticized for being way too fast with zero room to breathe and get to know the characters and world like the manga and 1998 anime do. This is especially noticeable with [[spoiler:Tessla]], [[spoiler:Tesla]], who is brought up but the series doesn't actually go into how the twins reacted to them and how it plays into their development, though the subject is left open-ended for later seasons.
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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash, though arguably the subtext seems to not present this as a good thing. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy disturbingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version lines which can be read as romantic like "Can we breathe the same way together?" Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.

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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash, though arguably the subtext seems to not present this as a good thing. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy disturbingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has lines which can be read as romantic like "Can we breathe the same way together?" which could be read as romantic. Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.
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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy disturbingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''amazingly'' romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.

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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash.Vash, though arguably the subtext seems to not present this as a good thing. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy disturbingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''amazingly'' lines which can be read as romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.

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* HoYay: So far, between Vash and Wolfwood. Vash seems to have liked Wolfwood from the moment they meet. When Roberto calls out how suspicious Wolfwood is, Vash shoots him down by saying Wolfwood has kind eyes, a compliment that obviously affects Wolfwood.
** As they prepare to take care of the ion cannon, Wolfwood yells at Vash that he'd kill him if his plan didn't work. Vash's reaction to being threatened with death is to smile warmly.
** Wolfwood shows concern and anger when Vash allows himself to be shot, and Vash takes his shirt off in front of Wolfwood (to treat the bullet wound). He acts sheepish about his scars, a scene that went to the girls in the '98 anime and manga, and casually reveals that [[spoiler:he knew what Wolfwood was from the start and went along with him to help him out]].
** After Wolfwood [[spoiler: turns Vash over to Knives]] Vash just smiles and thanks him, and when attempting to break Vash's mind, Knives assumes Wolfwood's shape while the others merely vanish.
** Then there's [[ChildhoodFriends Wolfwood and Livio]], with the two nearly having two episodes dedicated to their relationship. Adopted into the same orphanage as boys, Wolfwood took it on himself to take care of "crybaby" Livio. Wolfwood accepted becoming the Punisher so Livio wouldn't be subjected to the same suffering he was himself, and Livio (possibly) willingly joined the Eye of Michael in order to "catch up" to Wolfwood in strength. Their relationship as adoptive brothers is paralleled to that of the twins, but of course that doesn't stop anyone - if anything the subtext of Knives's obsession with Vash adds fuel to the fire.

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** Then there's [[ChildhoodFriends Wolfwood and Livio]], with the two nearly having two episodes dedicated to their relationship. Adopted into the same orphanage as boys, Wolfwood took it on himself to take care of "crybaby" Livio. Wolfwood accepted becoming the Punisher so Livio wouldn't be subjected to the same suffering he was himself, and Livio (possibly) willingly joined the Eye of Michael in order to "catch up" to Wolfwood in strength. Their relationship as adoptive brothers is paralleled to that of the twins, but of course that doesn't stop anyone - -- if anything the subtext of Knives's obsession with Vash adds fuel to the fire.
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* HoYay: So far, between Vash and Wolfwood, Vash has an almost outright trust in Wolfwood the moment they meet. When Roberto calls out how suspicious Wolfwood is, Vash shoots him down and says that Wolfwood has kind eyes. Wolfwood seems to blush as he turns away from that compliment.
** As they prepare to take care of the ion cannon, Wolfwood yells at Vash that he'd kill him if their plan didn't work. But Vash simply smiles warmly at Wolfwood while gently saying his name.
** Wolfwood is noticeably worried over Vash when Vash allows the July soldier to shoot him. Vash later takes his shirt off in front of Wolfwood (to treat a bullet wound) and acts sheepish about his scars, a scene that went to the girls in the '98 anime and manga, and casually reveals that [[spoiler:he knew what Wolfwood was from the start and went along with him just to help him out]].
** When attempting to break Vash's mind, unlike the other people Vash had met in his life, Knives explicitly assumes Wolfwood's shape while the others merely vanish. After Wolfwood [[spoiler: turns Vash over to Knives]] Vash just smiles and thanks him. Vash smiles again [[spoiler: during his fight with Knives, seeing that Wolfwood came back to save Meryl.]]
* Then there's [[ChildhoodFriends Wolfwood and Livio]], with the two nearly having two episodes dedicated to their relationship. Wolfwood is desperate to protect Livio, as well as the children of Hopeland orphanage - becoming the Punisher because of this. While Livio may have willingly joined the Eye of Michael in order to grow strong and protect Wolfwood. The two were close as children, with them sleeping next to one another, were rarely seen apart, and Livio was brought back to sanity through recognizing the smell of Wolfwood's cigarette.
* IKnewIt: As the first season of ''Stampede'' progressed, many fans began to suspect that the season was [[spoiler:a StealthPrequel that reinterpreted the events leading up to the Lost July incident, the disaster that occurred before the story of the original manga & anime and defined Vash's identity as a legendary outlaw. This was due to details including but not limited to: the city of July apparently still standing at the start of ''Stampede'', many of the character reinterpretations looking and behaving younger than their original manga & anime counterparts, and Vash's bounty being $$6,000,000 rather than the $$60,000,000,000 at the start of the original manga & anime.]] Come Episode 12, all of this proved correct.

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* HoYay: So far, between Vash and Wolfwood, Wolfwood. Vash has an almost outright trust in seems to have liked Wolfwood from the moment they meet. When Roberto calls out how suspicious Wolfwood is, Vash shoots him down and says that by saying Wolfwood has kind eyes. Wolfwood seems to blush as he turns away from eyes, a compliment that compliment.obviously affects Wolfwood.
** As they prepare to take care of the ion cannon, Wolfwood yells at Vash that he'd kill him if their his plan didn't work. But Vash simply smiles warmly at Vash's reaction to being threatened with death is to smile warmly.
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Wolfwood while gently saying shows concern and anger when Vash allows himself to be shot, and Vash takes his name.shirt off in front of Wolfwood (to treat the bullet wound). He acts sheepish about his scars, a scene that went to the girls in the '98 anime and manga, and casually reveals that [[spoiler:he knew what Wolfwood was from the start and went along with him to help him out]].
** After Wolfwood is noticeably worried [[spoiler: turns Vash over to Knives]] Vash just smiles and thanks him, and when Vash allows attempting to break Vash's mind, Knives assumes Wolfwood's shape while the July soldier to shoot him. Vash later takes his shirt off in front of Wolfwood (to treat a bullet wound) and acts sheepish about his scars, a scene that went to the girls in the '98 anime and manga, and casually reveals that [[spoiler:he knew what Wolfwood was from the start and went along with him just to help him out]].others merely vanish.
** When attempting to break Vash's mind, unlike the other people Vash had met in his life, Knives explicitly assumes Wolfwood's shape while the others merely vanish. After Wolfwood [[spoiler: turns Vash over to Knives]] Vash just smiles and thanks him. Vash smiles again [[spoiler: during his fight with Knives, seeing that Wolfwood came back to save Meryl.]]
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Then there's [[ChildhoodFriends Wolfwood and Livio]], with the two nearly having two episodes dedicated to their relationship. Wolfwood is desperate to protect Livio, as well as Adopted into the children of Hopeland same orphanage - as boys, Wolfwood took it on himself to take care of "crybaby" Livio. Wolfwood accepted becoming the Punisher because of this. While so Livio may have wouldn't be subjected to the same suffering he was himself, and Livio (possibly) willingly joined the Eye of Michael in order to grow strong and protect Wolfwood. The two were close "catch up" to Wolfwood in strength. Their relationship as children, adoptive brothers is paralleled to that of the twins, but of course that doesn't stop anyone - if anything the subtext of Knives's obsession with them sleeping next Vash adds fuel to one another, were rarely seen apart, and Livio was brought back to sanity through recognizing the smell of Wolfwood's cigarette.
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* IKnewIt: As the first season of ''Stampede'' progressed, many fans began to suspect that the season was [[spoiler:a StealthPrequel that reinterpreted the events leading up to the Lost July incident, the disaster that occurred before the story of the original manga & anime and defined Vash's identity as a legendary outlaw. This was due to details including but not limited to: the city of July apparently still standing at the start of ''Stampede'', many of the character reinterpretations looking and behaving younger than their original manga & and anime counterparts, and Vash's bounty being $$6,000,000 rather than the $$60,000,000,000 at the start of the original manga & anime.]] Come Episode 12, all of this proved correct.



** In the dub as Vash desperately holds onto his memory of Rem, he yells, "I need you!" Knives then cuts down Rem's image while coldly saying, "You need your brother." Earlier he tells Vash that his paradise - his world of Plants is incomplete without him.

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** In the dub as Vash desperately holds onto his memory of Rem, he yells, "I need you!" Knives then cuts down Rem's image while coldly saying, "You need your brother." Earlier he tells Vash that his paradise - his world of Plants is incomplete without him.



* LGBTFanbase: ''Stampede'' has gained many fans from the LGBTQ+ community with some fans relating to Vash as someone who tries to fit in with others even when they reject him.

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* LGBTFanbase: ''Stampede'' has gained many fans from the LGBTQ+ community with some fans relating to Vash as someone who tries to fit in with others even when they reject him. him, and his climatic moment of triumph being an assertion and claiming of his identity.
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* Then there's [[ChildhoodFriends Wolfwood and Livio]], with the two nearly having two episodes dedicated to their relationship. Wolfwood is desperate to protect Livio, as well as the children of Hopeland orphanage - becoming the Punisher because of this. While Livio may have willingly joined the Eye of Michael in order to grow strong and protect Wolfwood. The two were close as children, with them sleeping next to one another, were rarely seen apart, and Livio was brought back to sanity through recognizing the smell of Wolfwood's cigarette.
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* AscendedFanon: Originally, Vash did not have an official birthdate, with fans choosing July 21st [[spoiler: as it marked the day of July's destruction]]. It become Vash and Knives's canon birthdate in ''Stampede'', [[spoiler: and it still becomes the date of July's destruction in the finale.]]

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* AscendedFanon: Originally, Vash did not have an official birthdate, with fans choosing July 21st [[spoiler: as it marked the day of July's destruction]]. It become became Vash and Knives's canon birthdate in ''Stampede'', [[spoiler: and it still becomes the date of July's destruction in the season 1 finale.]]



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: [[AllLovingHero Vash]]. If there's someone he's had a close relationship with, you can bet he's been shipped with them. Wolfwood is also a pretty close contender.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: [[AllLovingHero Vash]]. If there's someone he's had a been close relationship with, you can bet he's been shipped with them. Wolfwood is also a pretty close contender.
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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy disgustingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''amazingly'' romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.

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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy disgustingly disturbingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''amazingly'' romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.
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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy incredibly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''amazingly'' romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.

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* IncestYayShipping: Between Knives and Vash. In this iteration, Knives comes off as [[CrazyJealousGuy incredibly disgustingly possessive over Vash]]. He tries to choke Luida when Vash chooses to save humanity over joining him in his "paradise" and calls her a "witch" for stealing Vash from him. While it's due to him believing Rem had spun lies about humanity to Vash, in present day he almost sounds ''jealous'' of her for occupying so much of Vash's heart. He loses his mind when he realises [[spoiler:Meryl called Vash back from his mental collapse and rushes at her bellowing in rage]]. The song he constantly plays [[spoiler: is one he and Vash created as children]], and the lyrical version has ''amazingly'' romantic lines like "Can we breathe the same way together?" Compared to most others he speaks to, Knives is much more gentle around Vash. Even Vash when asked by Wolfwood if he's trying to save everyone, admits he wants to save everyone and Knives. Also the cult of the Eye of Michael Knives creates? It speaks about two angels reuniting as one in the end. It goes on and on.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: The subtitles of the series referred to Knives when he was a child as "Nai". In episode 11, a file in a flashback reveals that his name is officially written as "Kni". Many fans have ignored this and continue to write Knives original name as "Nai".



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Vash. If there's someone he's had a close relationship with, you can bet he's been shipped with them. Wolfwood is also a pretty close contender.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Vash.[[AllLovingHero Vash]]. If there's someone he's had a close relationship with, you can bet he's been shipped with them. Wolfwood is also a pretty close contender.
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** The ugly bowl cuts Vash and Knives had as kids in this show have inspired jokes that [[DisproportionateRetribution Knives turned evil because Rem gave him a bad haircut.]] There are also jokes about Knives wearing a snuggie (his cloak has a round hood and wide sleeves, giving the impression he's walking around in an evil wearable blankie). Fans also reference ''Advertising/WheresTheBeef'' in regards to Livio's scrawnier redesign.

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** The ugly bowl cuts Vash and Knives had as kids in this show have inspired jokes that [[DisproportionateRetribution Knives turned evil because Rem gave him a bad haircut.]] There are also jokes about Knives wearing a snuggie (his cloak has a round hood and wide sleeves, giving the impression he's walking around in an evil wearable blankie). Fans also reference ''Advertising/WheresTheBeef'' in regards to Livio's scrawnier redesign.slim design (though it's OlderThanTheyThink; see below).



** Though something of a pre-existing joke, Roberto mockingly referring to Knives as "Hundreds Spoons" in the English dub was received with delight by the fandom. References to Knives have about a fifty-fifty chance of substituting other utensils and numbers.

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** Though something of somewhat a pre-existing joke, Roberto mockingly referring to Knives as "Hundreds Spoons" in the English dub was received with delight by the fandom. References to Knives have about a fifty-fifty chance of substituting other utensils and numbers.
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** "Stampede Saturday", thanks to Crunchyroll releasing episodes on Saturdays in the US.

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** "Stampede Saturday", thanks to Crunchyroll releasing episodes on Saturdays in the US. It even [[MemeAcknowledgment gets acknowledged]] by the staff during a con where they talked about the production of ''Stampede''.

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