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* EvilIsSexy: So far all introduced Agriches are very attractive, and boy does it show in the comment sections under each chapter.
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** It's been also pointed out that shoehorning RebornAsVillainessStory was completely unnecessary and didn't add much to the plot except for protagonist's knowledge of the original novel, which becomes irrelevant anyway once she saves Cassis, and could be easily replaced by original Roxana reliving and fixing her previous life via TimeTravel.

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** It's been also pointed out that shoehorning RebornAsVillainessStory was completely unnecessary and didn't add much to the plot except for protagonist's knowledge of the original novel, which becomes irrelevant void anyway once she saves Cassis, Cassis quite early on, and could be easily replaced by original Roxana reliving and fixing her previous life via TimeTravel.
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** It's been also pointed out that shoehorning RebornAsVillainessStory was completely unnecessary and didn't add much to the plot except for protagonist's knowledge of the original novel, which becomes irrelevant anyway once she saves Cassis, and could be easily replaced by original Roxana reliving and fixing her previous life.

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** It's been also pointed out that shoehorning RebornAsVillainessStory was completely unnecessary and didn't add much to the plot except for protagonist's knowledge of the original novel, which becomes irrelevant anyway once she saves Cassis, and could be easily replaced by original Roxana reliving and fixing her previous life.life via TimeTravel.
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** It's been also pointed out that shoehorning RebornAsVillainessStory was completely unnecessary and didn't add much to the plot except for protagonist's knowledge of the original novel, which becomes irrelevant anyway once she saves Cassis and could be easily replaced by original Roxana reliving and fixing her previous life.

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** It's been also pointed out that shoehorning RebornAsVillainessStory was completely unnecessary and didn't add much to the plot except for protagonist's knowledge of the original novel, which becomes irrelevant anyway once she saves Cassis Cassis, and could be easily replaced by original Roxana reliving and fixing her previous life.
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** It's been also pointed out that shoehorning RebornAsVillainessStory was completely unnecessary and didn't add much to the plot except for protagonist's knowledge of the original novel, which becomes irrelevant anyway once she saves Cassis and could be easily replaced by original Roxana reliving and fixing her previous life.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Regularly comes first/ranks high in "best art" polls on otome isekai threads on Reddit and other sites.
* BlackComedy: Quite a lot of it, but Maria scolding Dion for killing Ashil, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint five years after the fact and in the middle of a very dangerous situation]], has to take the cake.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Regularly comes first/ranks high in "best art" polls on otome isekai threads on Reddit subreddits and other sites.
* BlackComedy: Quite a lot of it, but Maria scolding Dion for killing Ashil, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint five years after the fact and in the middle of a very dangerous situation]], has to take the cake.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some readers felt the story would be more compelling if it focused on retelling "Hell's Flower" from the perspective of original Roxana (abridged plot of "Hell's Flower" was put into one of the side-stories written after the novels were finished).



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some readers felt the story would be more compelling if it focused on retelling "Hell's Flower" from the perspective of original Roxana (abridged plot of "Hell's Flower" was put into one of the side-stories written after the novels were finished).
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some readers felt the story would be more compelling if it focused on retelling "Hell's Flower" from the perspective of original Roxana (abridged plot of "Hell's Flower" was put into one of the side-stories written after the novels were finished).
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* AwesomeArt: Regularly comes first/ranks high in "best art" polls on otome isekai threads on Reddit and other sites.

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* AwesomeArt: SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Regularly comes first/ranks high in "best art" polls on otome isekai threads on Reddit and other sites.
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* AwesomeArt: Regularly comes first/ranks high in "best art" polls on otome isekai threads on Reddit and other sites.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: A common complaint about the story, if you don't consider Agriches' antics [[CrossesTheLineTwice darkly hilarious]]. Roxana herself, despite being the main character and technically not as bad as her relatives, still manipulates people at every turn, sacrifices quite a lot of lives in order to reach her goal and offhandedly mentions helping her father in his criminal activities. Other characters are also very morally gray, and even Sierra, while technically a good and kind person, is still judged in-universe and out for being too weak and passive.


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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: A common complaint about the story, if you don't consider Agriches' antics [[CrossesTheLineTwice darkly hilarious]]. Roxana herself, despite being the main character and technically not as bad as her relatives, still manipulates people at every turn, sacrifices quite a lot of lives in order to reach her goal and offhandedly mentions helping her father in his criminal activities. Other characters are also very morally gray, and even Sierra, while technically a good and kind person, is still judged in-universe and out for being too weak and passive.
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* IncestSubtext: Roxana/Dion, with their last scene together before the timeskip being ambiguous enough to make many readers assume Dion put her through a ScarpiaUltimatum to keep his mouth shut about her letting Cassis escape. While this was disproven during their post-timeskip conversation, the incestuous undertones in their interactions are still quite heavy. In fact, Roxana [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] Dion's cryptic motivations in the very same conversation.
** To a more one-sided degree, Roxana/Jeremy. Jeremy is extremely possessive of her attention, best evidenced when he tries to get Cassis killed by Charlotte after Roxana expresses her interest in Cassis. He also explodes at anyone even looking at Roxana wrong, to the point of beating at least several people during their stay at Wigdrasil (which is supposed to be a peaceful gathering) and almost gets into a fight with Luzak Gasteur, memeber of another powerful family, for staring at his sister too long or even just talking about her. Not to mention planning to destroy Roxana's butterflies before they hatched because he was concerned she was worsening her health for them and spent too much time in hatchery for his liking, and his mental breakdown when he's forced to kill Roxana's illusion during his evaluation. However, their relationship is much more amicable and less laden with [[BelligerentSexualTension tension]] than the one between Roxana and Dion, and Roxana ultimately treats him as just a younger brother she's particularly fond of.
** Taken to a full blown text by Fontaine, who's not even trying to hide his desire for Roxana and outright plans to marry her.
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** Taken to a full blown text by Fontaine, who's not even trying to hide his desire for Roxana and outright plans to marry her.
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** To a more one-sided degree, Roxana/Jeremy. While Roxana treats Jeremy as just a younger brother, Jeremy is extremely possessive of her attention, best evidenced he tries to get Cassis killed by Charlotte after Roxana expresses her interest in Cassis. He also explodes at anyone even looking at Roxana wrong, to the point of beating at least several people during their stay at Wigdrasil (which is supposed to be a peaceful gathering) and almost gets into a fight with Luzak Gasteur, memeber of another powerful family, for staring at his sister too long or even just talking about her. Not to mention planning to destroy Roxana's butterflies before they hatched because he was concerned she was worsening her health for them and spent too much time in hatchery for his liking, and his mental breakdown when he's forced to kill Roxana's illusion during his evaluation.

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** To a more one-sided degree, Roxana/Jeremy. While Roxana treats Jeremy as just a younger brother, Jeremy is extremely possessive of her attention, best evidenced when he tries to get Cassis killed by Charlotte after Roxana expresses her interest in Cassis. He also explodes at anyone even looking at Roxana wrong, to the point of beating at least several people during their stay at Wigdrasil (which is supposed to be a peaceful gathering) and almost gets into a fight with Luzak Gasteur, memeber of another powerful family, for staring at his sister too long or even just talking about her. Not to mention planning to destroy Roxana's butterflies before they hatched because he was concerned she was worsening her health for them and spent too much time in hatchery for his liking, and his mental breakdown when he's forced to kill Roxana's illusion during his evaluation. However, their relationship is much more amicable and less laden with [[BelligerentSexualTension tension]] than the one between Roxana and Dion, and Roxana ultimately treats him as just a younger brother she's particularly fond of.
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** To a more one-sided degree, Roxana/Jeremy. While Roxana treats Jeremy as just a younger brother, Jeremy is extremely possessive of her attention, to the point he tries to get Cassis killed by Charlotte after Roxana expresses her interest in Cassis. He also explodes at anyone even looking at Roxana wrong, to the point of beating at least several people during their stay at Wigdrasil (which is supposed to be a peaceful gathering) and almost gets into a fight with Luzak Gasteur, memeber of another powerful family, for staring at his sister too long or even just talking about her. Not to mention planning to destroy Roxana's butterflies before they hatched because he was concerned she was worsening her health for them and spent too much time in hatchery for his liking, and his mental breakdown when he's forced to kill Roxana's illusion during his evaluation.

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** To a more one-sided degree, Roxana/Jeremy. While Roxana treats Jeremy as just a younger brother, Jeremy is extremely possessive of her attention, to the point best evidenced he tries to get Cassis killed by Charlotte after Roxana expresses her interest in Cassis. He also explodes at anyone even looking at Roxana wrong, to the point of beating at least several people during their stay at Wigdrasil (which is supposed to be a peaceful gathering) and almost gets into a fight with Luzak Gasteur, memeber of another powerful family, for staring at his sister too long or even just talking about her. Not to mention planning to destroy Roxana's butterflies before they hatched because he was concerned she was worsening her health for them and spent too much time in hatchery for his liking, and his mental breakdown when he's forced to kill Roxana's illusion during his evaluation.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Agriches are so over the top evil it often comes into ComedicSociopathy territory.

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* BlackComedy: Quite a lot of it, but Maria scolding Dion for killing Ashil, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint five years after the fact and in the middle of a very dangerous situation]], has to take the cake.
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Agriches are so over the top evil it often comes veers into ComedicSociopathy territory.


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** To a more one-sided degree, Roxana/Jeremy. While Roxana treats Jeremy as just a younger brother, Jeremy is extremely possessive of her attention, to the point he tries to get Cassis killed by Charlotte after Roxana expresses her interest in Cassis. He also explodes at anyone even looking at Roxana wrong, to the point of beating at least several people during their stay at Wigdrasil (which is supposed to be a peaceful gathering) and almost gets into a fight with Luzak Gasteur, memeber of another powerful family, for staring at his sister too long or even just talking about her. Not to mention planning to destroy Roxana's butterflies before they hatched because he was concerned she was worsening her health for them and spent too much time in hatchery for his liking, and his mental breakdown when he's forced to kill Roxana's illusion during his evaluation.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Agriches' are so over the top evil it often comes into ComedicSociopathy territory.

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* EvilIsSexy: So far all introduced Agriches are very attractive, and boy does it show in the comment sections under each chapter.



* TheWoobie: Sierra. She's married to what basically amounts to a mob boss, lives in a GildedCage, is forced to see her beloved son being killed, which takes a heavy toll on her mental health, and her only remaining child, a daughter, clearly disdains her and keeps her at arm's length.

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* TheWoobie: Sierra. She's married to what basically amounts to a mob boss, lives in a GildedCage, is forced to see her beloved son being killed, which takes a heavy toll on her mental health, killed and her only remaining child, a daughter, clearly disdains her and keeps her at arm's length.length, while being too busy climbing the family ranks. Her only friend is an AxCrazy cannibal who likes to murder and dismember her servants and stitch them back together to use as her personal puppets. No wonder Sierra's mental health is deteriorating fast.

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* IncestSubtext: Roxana/Dion, to the point many readers assumed
* IncestYayShipping: Quite a lot of readers clearly prefer Roxana with Dion or even Jeremy than with Cassis.

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* IncestSubtext: Roxana/Dion, to with their last scene together before the point timeskip being ambiguous enough to make many readers assumed
assume Dion put her through a ScarpiaUltimatum to keep his mouth shut about her letting Cassis escape. While this was disproven during their post-timeskip conversation, the incestuous undertones in their interactions are still quite heavy. In fact, Roxana [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] Dion's cryptic motivations in the very same conversation.
* IncestYayShipping: Quite a lot of readers clearly prefer Roxana with Dion or even Jeremy than with Cassis.Cassis.
* TheWoobie: Sierra. She's married to what basically amounts to a mob boss, lives in a GildedCage, is forced to see her beloved son being killed, which takes a heavy toll on her mental health, and her only remaining child, a daughter, clearly disdains her and keeps her at arm's length.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Agriches' are so over the top evil it often comes into ComedicSociopathy territory.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: A common complaint about the story, if you don't consider Agriches' antics [[CrossesTheLineTwice darkly hilarious]]. Roxana herself, despite being the main character and technically not as bad as her relatives, still manipulates people at every turn, sacrifices quite a lot of lives in order to reach her goal and offhandedly mentions helping her father in his criminal activities. Other characters are also very morally gray, and even Sierra, while technically a good and kind person, is still judged in-universe and out for being too weak and passive.
* IncestSubtext: Roxana/Dion, to the point many readers assumed
* IncestYayShipping: Quite a lot of readers clearly prefer Roxana with Dion or even Jeremy than with Cassis.

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