History YMMV / TheSimpsonsS2E7BartVsThanksgiving

* UnintentionallySympathetic: Bart [[BrokenBase for the part of the fan base]] that saw Homer and Marge as being too cruel in their punishment. Even worse when you consider that the rest of the adults never tried to get in between his argument with Lisa until her centerpiece was already destroyed. Despite of this, even if one could ignore Bart destroying Lisa's centerpiece, Bart [[NeverMyFault refuses to apologize]] and never saw any reason to until after running away. Speaking of which, when he was interviewed by Kent Brockman, Bart openly mocks his family and taunts them out of spite.

* UnintentionallySympathetic: Bart [[BrokenBase for the part of the fan base]] that saw Homer and Marge as being too cruel in their punishment. Even worse when you consider that the rest of the adults never tried to get in between his argument with Lisa until her centerpiece was already destroyed.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BrokenBase While the other side,]] sees both Marge and Homer as this by punishing Bart on a holiday as going too far. Granted, Marge was at her wit's end but it was still harsh by declaring Bart ruined Thanksgiving. Not to mention that she could've said something not as harshly by [[OrderedApology forcing Bart to apologize,]] and siding with Lisa without hearing Bart's side of the story. As mentioned above, none of the adults tried to stop Bart and Lisa arguing until the latter's centerpiece was destroyed. It also helped that Lou and Eddie themselves [[WhatTheHellHero thought Marge had been too hard on Bart]].

** UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BrokenBase While the other side,]] sees both Marge and Homer as this by punishing Bart on a holiday as going too far. Granted, Marge was at her wit's end but it was still harsh by declaring Bart ruined Thanksgiving. Not to mention that she could've said something not as harshly by [[OrderedApology forcing Bart to apologize,]] and siding with Lisa without hearing Bart's side of the story. As mentioned above, none of the adults tried to stop Bart and Lisa arguing until the latter's centerpiece was destroyed.

* NightmareFuel: Bart's ImagineSpot where his family uses his as a scapegoat while taunting and laughing at him could be considered unsettling for some.

* MisaimedFandom: Despite Homer and Marge [[JerkAssHasAPoint having every right to be angry at Bart and punishing him on Thanksgiving]], and [[WasTooHardOnHim shown remorse]] for making Bart run away. Both of themselves are seen as AbusiveParents [[BrokenBase for the other part of the fan base]]. Even going far as [[{{Demonization}} outright demonizing]] [[RonTheDeathEater the two.]] Even though Homer [[HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood has done worse things to Bart]] in all the other episodes, and Marge herself was at her RageBreakingPoint at that scene.

** UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BrokenBase While the other side,]] sees both Marge and Homer as this for punishing Bart as going too far. Granted, Marge was at her wit's end but it was still harsh by declaring Bart ruined Thanksgiving. Not to mention that she could've said something not as harshly by [[OrderedApology forcing Bart to apologize,]] and siding with Lisa without hearing Bart's side of the story. As mentioned above, none of the adults tried to stop Bart and Lisa arguing until the latter's centerpiece was destroyed.

* BrokenBase: Did Bart ''really'' deserve to be punished? ''Were'' Marge and Homer a bit too harsh on him? The viewers who see the latter finds Bart's punishment [[DisproportionateRetribution too far, even for someone like Bart.]] Especially considering it's on Thanksgiving and when [[WhatTheHellHero Lou and Eddie called them out]] for it, [[WasTooHardOnHim regretful or not.]] For the viewers who see the former [[JerkassHasAPoint defends Marge and Homer]] by stating that Bart '''purposely''' threw Lisa's centerpiece, without remorse. Considering how much of a pain Bart can be, along with the fact the two not only has to deal with their relatives and the preparation of the feast itself in Marge's case. One's patience can go so far, especially if one has a child like Bart.

** UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BrokenBase While the other side,]] sees both Marge and Homer punishing Bart as going too far. Granted, Marge was at her wit's end but it was still harsh by declaring Bart ruined Thanksgiving. Not to mention that she could've said something not as harshly by [[OrderedApology forcing Bart to apologize,]] and siding with Lisa without hearing Bart's side of the story. As mentioned above, none of the adults tried to stop Bart and Lisa arguing until the latter's centerpiece was destroyed.

* MisaimedFandom: Despite Homer and Marge [[JerkAssHasAPoint having every right to be angry at Bart and punishing him on Thanksgiving]], and [[WasTooHardOnHim shown remorse]] for making Bart run away. Both of themselves are seen as AbusiveParents [[BrokenBase for the other part of the fan base]]. Even going far as [[{{Demonization}} outright demonizing]] [[RonTheDeathEater the two.]] Even though Homer [[HilariousAbusiveChildhood has done worse things to Bart]] in the other episodes, and Marge herself was at her RageBreakingPoint at that scene.

** UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BrokenBase While the other side,]] sees both Marge and Homer punishing Bart as going too far. Granted, Marge was at her wit's end but it was still harsh by declaring Bart ruining Thanksgiving. Not to mention that she could've said something not as harshly by [[OrderedApology forcing Bart to apologize,]] and siding with Lisa without hearing Bart's side of the story. As mentioned above, none of the adults tried to stop Bart and Lisa arguing until the latter's centerpiece was destroyed.

* {{Irony}} [=/=] NeverLiveItDown: Despite {{Forgiveness}} being the theme of this episode, some viewers aren't forgiving towards Marge and Homer for punishing Bart. [[BrokenBase On the other hand]], others aren't forgiving towards Bart for making Lisa cry by throwing her centerpiece into the fireplace ''on purpose''.

* {{Irony}} [=/=] NeverLiveItDown: Despite {{Forgiveness}} being the theme of this episode, some viewers aren't forgiving towards Marge and Homer for punishing Bart. [[BrokenBase On the other hand]], others aren't forgiving towards Bart for making Lisa by throwing her centerpiece into the fireplace ''on purpose''.

* {{Irony}} [=/=] NeverLiveItDown: Despite {{Forgiveness}} being the theme of this episode, some viewers aren't forgiving towards Marge and Homer for punishing Bart.

* {{Irony}} [=/=] NeverLiveItDown: Despite {{Forgiveness}} being the theme of this episode, some viewers aren't forgiving towards Marge and Homer for punishing Bart. On the other hand, others weren't forgiving towards Bart for making Lisa cry by purposely throwing her centerpiece into the fireplace.

* {{Irony}} [=/=] NeverLiveItDown: Despite {{Forgiveness}} being the theme of this episode, some viewers aren't forgiving towards Marge and Homer for punishing Bart.

* {{Irony}} =/= NeverLiveItDown: Despite {{Forgiveness}} being the theme of this episode, some viewers aren't forgiving towards Marge and Homer for punishing Bart.

* WhatAnIdiot: Crossing with SkewedPriorities, Bart tries to put the turkey where Lisa's centerpiece is when there is actually implied room for the turkey where Homer is sitting, judging by Homer's eagerness to carve the turkey.

* NeverLiveItDown: Despite {{Forgiveness}} being the theme of this episode, some viewers aren't forgiving towards Marge and Homer for punishing Bart.

* BrokenBase: Did Bart ''really'' deserve to be punished? ''Were'' Marge and Homer a bit too harsh on him? The viewers who see the latter finds Bart's punishment [[DisproportionateRetribution too far, even for someone like Bart.]] Especially considering it's on Thanksgiving and when [[WhatTheHellHero Lou and Eddie called them out]] for it, [[WasTooHardOnHim regretful or not.]] For the viewers who see the former [[JerkassHasAPoint defends Marge and Homer]] by stating that Bart '''purposely'' threw Lisa's centerpiece, without remorse. Considering how much of a pain Bart can be, along with the fact the two not only has to deal with their relatives and the preparation of the feast itself in Marge's case. One's patience can go so far, especially if one has a child like Bart.

* BrokenBase: Did Bart ''really'' deserve to be punished? ''Were'' Marge and Homer a bit too harsh on him?

* MoralEventHorizon: Even though Bart did burn the centerpiece, accident or not, Marge telling her child he ruined Thanksgiving is not acceptable by any means. You know you fucked up when the police are stunned when you confess to this.
** Not helped when Marge orders Bart to apologize not too long after.

** Not helped when Marge orders Bart to apologize not too long after. Cunt.

* BrokenBase: Did Bart ''really'' deserve to be punished? ''Were'' Marge and Homer a bit too harsh on him?

* BrokenBase: Did Bart really deserve to be punished? Were Marge and Homer a bit too harsh on him?

* BizarroEpisode: This has few laughs in it and the tone is more on par with what you would find in a less preachy VerySpecialEpisode.