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* SpecialEffectFailure: A fairly minor one with unfortunately major implications. Whenever [[spoiler: the silent Fallon]] is shown in close-up, in-universe stage makeup readily hides his identity. But in one scene where [[spoiler: he's sharing dinner with his twin and their respective love interests]], a seemingly less intensive form of the makeup and prosthetics make it possible to tell that [[spoiler: he's also played by Christian Bale]], and making that connection potentially spoils one of the main twists of the film.


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* TheUntwist: More than once, characters blatantly explain major twists to one another, and they, and the audience, refuse to take an answer staring them in the eye at face value. Which is part of the point, after all; magic tricks and all that. [[spoiler: Most blatantly, Cutter flat-out tells Angier how the Transported Man is being performed almost as soon as the audience sees it onscreen, but both he and the audience refuse to believe it could be that simple even after he's literally recreated the trick himself and it does seem to be that simple.]]
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** [[spoiler: Does Angiers murder all of his copies? Or did a copy murder Angiers, and is he murdering all of his other copies or are they just all committing suicide until one of them gets revenge? Do even ''they'' know the answer to these questions?]]


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** [[spoiler: Did Angiers kill his copies, or did his copies kill him and then keep killing each other?]]
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* GainaxEnding: After much ethical, moral, financial and social sacrifice, Angier, who is the best the movie has for a protagonist, plans to retire peacefully after accomplishing his life goal of getting revenge upon the man whose mistake caused the death of his wife and one-upping his signature "Transported Man" trick, only to be shot in cold blood in the last scene [[spoiler: by the same guy, or as revealed, his twin, and he himself is using Tesla's machine to clone himself and dispose of said clone after each performance.]]
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* BrokenBase: Who is the protagonist between Angier and Borden[[spoiler:(or more accurately the two Borden brothers)]] and who is ultimately more sympathetic?

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* BrokenBase: Who is the protagonist between Angier and Borden[[spoiler:(or Borden [[spoiler:(or more accurately the two Borden brothers)]] and who is ultimately more sympathetic?

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** How much sympathy does Borden actually deserve? As noted under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below [[spoiler: even if his twin brother is responsible for the nastier actions, he still fully allowed them to happen and deceived his wife. While Angier and the brother get their dose of LaserGuidedKarma, Borden escapes all consequences of this behaviour and is happily reunited with his daughter]].
*** [[spoiler: He loses his wife and brother, which are pretty major. And the benefits of being a front line magic performer, he'll have to stay behind the scenes from now on most likely.]]

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** How much sympathy does Borden actually deserve? As noted under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below [[spoiler: even if his twin brother is responsible for the nastier actions, he still fully allowed them to happen and deceived his wife. While Angier and the brother get their dose of LaserGuidedKarma, Borden is happily reunited with his daughter and escapes all consequences of this behaviour and is happily reunited beyond having to live on with his daughter]].
*** [[spoiler: He loses his wife and brother, which are pretty major. And
the benefits of being a front line magic performer, he'll have to stay behind the scenes from now on most likely.]]guilt]].
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** Likewise did Sarah actually figure out the truth? [[spoiler: Was her suicide a reaction to finding out she had been lied to all her life? Or even darker, did she fear she was going mad]]?

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** Likewise did Sarah actually figure out the truth? [[spoiler: Was her suicide a reaction to finding out she had been lied to all for her life? whole marriage? Or even darker, did she fear she was going mad]]?



** Sarah. Having to put up with a husband who loves you one day, then is emotionally abusive the next will take its toll on anyone. [[spoiler: Even more when she figures out that she has been manipulated and used by two men her entire life: she almost immediately hangs herself.]]

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** Sarah. Having to put up with a husband who loves you one day, then is emotionally abusive the next will take its toll on anyone. [[spoiler: Even more when she figures out that she has been manipulated and used by two men her entire life: marriage: she almost immediately hangs herself.]]
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* BrokenBase: Who is the protagonist between Angier and Borden[[spoiler:s]] and who is ultimately more sympathetic?

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* BrokenBase: Who is the protagonist between Angier and Borden[[spoiler:s]] Borden[[spoiler:(or more accurately the two Borden brothers)]] and who is ultimately more sympathetic?
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: TheReveal [[spoiler: shows that Borden is actually a twin, and the bad twin is responsible for the affair with Olivia and most of the nasty things Borden does]]. Notably Borden still [[spoiler: deceived his wife and allowed his brother to enter their bed]]. FridgeHorror if Sarah actually ever slept with [[spoiler: the twin, thinking it was her husband. And likewise the 'good' twin still carried on an affair with Olivia]], despite knowing how much it was upsetting Sarah. All out of dedication to the craft. Not once is this kind of behaviour called out. There's also the fact that [[spoiler: their charade ended causing Julia's accidental death early in the film, and they still decided to carry on with it.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: TheReveal [[spoiler: shows Shows that Borden is actually a twin, and the bad 'bad' twin is responsible for the affair with Olivia and most of the nasty things Borden does]]. Notably Borden still [[spoiler: deceived his wife and allowed his brother to enter their bed]]. FridgeHorror if Sarah actually ever slept with [[spoiler: the twin, thinking it was her husband. And likewise the 'good' twin still carried on an affair with Olivia]], despite knowing how much it was upsetting Sarah. All out of dedication to the craft. Not once is this kind of behaviour called out. There's also the fact that [[spoiler: their charade ended causing Julia's accidental death early in the film, and they still decided to carry on with it.]]
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** Angier [[spoiler: letting Angier take the fall for his murder and kidnapping Borden's daughter.]]

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** Angier [[spoiler: letting Angier Borden take the fall for his murder and kidnapping Borden's daughter.Jess.]]

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MEH can't be crossed more than once.


** Debatably for Angier,
*** [[spoiler: maiming Borden during the Bullet Catch Trick, although he was under much emotional duress and it was Fallon rushing to grab the gun that triggered it.]]
*** [[spoiler: letting Angier take the fall for his murder, though it was Borden who started the escalating antagonism.]]
*** [[spoiler: adopting Borden's daughter, Jess, although it is heavily implied he has the best intentions.]]
** Debatably for Borden,
*** [[spoiler: his callous unprofessionalism with "truly not knowing" which knot he tied.]]
*** [[spoiler: antagonizing Angier at every turn and exploiting his wife's death, eventually crippling him.]]
*** [[spoiler: Implicitly engaging in marital infidelity alongside his twin and driving his wife to suicide.]]
*** [[spoiler: his murder of Angier.]]

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** Debatably for Angier,
*** [[spoiler: maiming Borden during the Bullet Catch Trick, although he was under much emotional duress and it was Fallon rushing to grab the gun that triggered it.]]
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Angier [[spoiler: letting Angier take the fall for his murder, though it was Borden who started the escalating antagonism.murder and kidnapping Borden's daughter.]]
*** ** Borden [[spoiler: adopting Borden's daughter, Jess, although it is heavily implied he has the best intentions.]]
** Debatably for Borden,
*** [[spoiler: his callous unprofessionalism with "truly not knowing" which knot he tied.]]
*** [[spoiler: antagonizing Angier at every turn and exploiting his wife's death, eventually crippling him.]]
*** [[spoiler: Implicitly
implicitly engaging in marital infidelity alongside his twin and driving his wife to suicide.]]
*** [[spoiler: his murder of Angier.
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** [[spoiler:[[TheManBehindTheMan John Cutter]] is a former magician and Robert Angier's ingenieur, who works behind the scenes to make him a success. A witty and charismatic man, Cutter assists Angier's schemes against rival magician Borden, calling in favors with managers to put Angier in the spotlight, helping him plan illusions to one-up Borden, [[GadgeteerGenius and building many of the devices Angier uses]]. As the magicians' feud escalates, Cutter proves to be adept at analyzing Borden's moves, even kidnapping Borden's assistant to coerce him into revealing his secrets. At the same time, he has a clear sense of honor, as when he learns Angier has set up Borden to be wrongly executed and taken his daughter into his custody, [[WhatTheHellHero Cutter is disgusted by how far he's gone]] and helps the surviving Borden twin, subtly allowing Borden to kill Angier in revenge and ensuring that the girl is returned to her father]].
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*** [[spoiler: He loses his wife and brother, which are pretty major. And the benefits of being a front line magic performer, he'll have to stay behind the scenes from now on most likely.]]
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* CutLexLuthorACheck: The machine Tesla makes for Angier has an amazing variety of potential uses. Even just as a magician, it could be the basis for a variety of tricks. Angier uses it for one specific trick to one up something Borden did.
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* CutLexLuthorACheck: The machine Tesla makes for Angier has an amazing variety of potential uses. Even just as a magician, it could be the basis for a variety of tricks. Angier uses it for one specific trick to one up something Borden did.
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** Cutter [[spoiler: colluding with Borden and betraying Angier's whereabouts.]]
** Root [[spoiler: directly responsible for crippling Angier.]]
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*** [[spoiler: maiming Borden during the Bullet Catch Trick, although he was under much emotional duress and truly needed closure.]]

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*** [[spoiler: maiming Borden during the Bullet Catch Trick, although he was under much emotional duress and truly needed closure.it was Fallon rushing to grab the gun that triggered it.]]
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* GainaxEnding: After much ethical, moral, financial and social sacrifice, Angier, who is the best the movie has for a protagonist, plans to retire peacefully after accomplishing his life goal of getting revenge upon the man whose mistake caused the death of his wife and one-upping his signature "Transported Man" trick, only to be shot in cold blood [[spoiler: by the same guy, or as revealed, his twin, and he himself is using Tesla's machine to clone himself and dispose of said clone after each performance.]]

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* GainaxEnding: After much ethical, moral, financial and social sacrifice, Angier, who is the best the movie has for a protagonist, plans to retire peacefully after accomplishing his life goal of getting revenge upon the man whose mistake caused the death of his wife and one-upping his signature "Transported Man" trick, only to be shot in cold blood in the last scene [[spoiler: by the same guy, or as revealed, his twin, and he himself is using Tesla's machine to clone himself and dispose of said clone after each performance.]]
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* BrokenBase: Who is the protagonist between Angier and Borden[[spoiker:s]] and who is ultimately more sympathetic?

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* BrokenBase: Who is the protagonist between Angier and Borden[[spoiker:s]] Borden[[spoiler:s]] and who is ultimately more sympathetic?

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