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** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of ''Justice League'' was one of the more divisive points of those movies.
** Even for those more receptive to Miller's Barry, the behind-the-scenes drama for the movie and the DCEU at large, like the years it spent in DevelopmentHell trying to lock down directors and scripts, only soured impatient fans waiting for the film to finally come out, and contributed to the DCEU's poor reputation so that many were skeptical the movie would be any good.



** By the time the movie came out, it was by then yet another multiversal story after several such big movie and TV projects were released during its long development period, leading to the movie getting more unfavorable notices and word of mouth in comparison with those, on top of being seen or dismissed as "more of the same", further turning away more of the potential audience.
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* HeartWarmingInHindsight: The post credits scene where Arthur and Barry are out drinking could be viewed as such if one assumes they were out celebrating [[Film/AquamanAndTheLostKingdom Arthur becoming a father]].

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* HeartWarmingInHindsight: HeartwarmingInHindsight: The post credits scene where Arthur and Barry are out drinking could be viewed as such if one assumes they were out celebrating [[Film/AquamanAndTheLostKingdom Arthur becoming a father]].
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* OvershadowedByControversy : A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement. This was made worse when DC, who didn't cancel the Flash despite the controversy surrounding its lead, would go on to controversially can the Batgirl movie for a tax write off.

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* OvershadowedByControversy : OvershadowedByControversy: A year before the movie was released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile high-profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement. This was made worse when DC, who didn't cancel the Flash this movie despite the controversy surrounding its lead, would go on to controversially can cancel the Batgirl ''Batgirl'' movie being worked on at the same for a tax write off.write-off despite the fact it was mostly finished and was in test-screening.
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* OvershadowedByControversy : A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement.

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* OvershadowedByControversy : A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement. This was made worse when DC, who didn't cancel the Flash despite the controversy surrounding its lead, would go on to controversially can the Batgirl movie for a tax write off.

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These aspects have to do with the quality of the work itself, not external controversies.


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: From the moment the film was announced, audience interest was lukewarm due to several factors which compounded as time passed, so that it largely couldn't shake off the negativity surrounding it and wound up being one of DC's most expensive flops:
** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of ''Justice League'' was one of the more divisive points of those movies.
** Even for those more receptive to Miller's Barry, the behind-the-scenes drama for the movie and the DCEU at large, like the years it spent in DevelopmentHell trying to lock down directors and scripts, only soured impatient fans waiting for the film to finally come out, and contributed to the DCEU's poor reputation so that many were skeptical the movie would be any good.
** For DC fans, once it was confirmed that it was not simply going to be a Flash solo film but rather a very loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DC Comics}}''[[note]]Which had already been [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox adapted]] [[Series/TheFlash2014 twice]] by that point[[/note]] featuring the Creator/BenAffleck[[note]]In what was advertised in his final time in the role, itself bittersweet due to him being burnt out from the part after the behind-the-scenes troubles of ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and his solo film being retooled into ''Film/TheBatman2022'' as a result[[/note]] and Creator/MichaelKeaton iterations of Batman ''and'' a new take on Supergirl, it was seen as little more than a means to revamp the struggling DCEU instead of letting Flash stand on his own merits. This is because ''Flashpoint'' notoriously led to DC's surprise line-wide reboot, ComicBook/TheNew52 universe, and it was well-publicized that the movie would do the same for the DCEU.
** When the film finally did come out, it was well-publicized long before its release that Creator/JamesGunn was already resetting the DCEU for a new franchise, the "DCU", on a scale beyond even the ''previous'' DCEU revamp plans, beginning with dropping most, if not all DCEU stuff from continuity and recasting Superman and Lois Lane, so while Gunn and others claimed the film would be how the change happens, it was seen as [[TheFireflyEffect a dead end narratively]] for the DCEU. And it turned out that the film [[LyingCreator didn't]] really set up the DCU in any case, leading to more bad word of mouth from those who [[JustHereForGodzilla went to see it for that]].
** By the time the movie came out, it was by then yet another multiversal story after several such big movie and TV projects were released during its long development period, leading to the movie getting more unfavorable notices and word of mouth in comparison with those, on top of being seen or dismissed as "more of the same", further turning away more of the potential audience.



* OvershadowedByControversy : From the moment the film was announced, audience interest was lukewarm due to several factors which compounded as time passed, so that it largely couldn't shake off the negativity surrounding it and wound up being one of DC's most expensive flops:
** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of ''Justice League'' was one of the more divisive points of those movies.
** Even for those more receptive to Miller's Barry, the behind-the-scenes drama for the movie and the DCEU at large, like the years it spent in DevelopmentHell trying to lock down directors and scripts, only soured impatient fans waiting for the film to finally come out, and contributed to the DCEU's poor reputation so that many were skeptical the movie would be any good.
** For DC fans, once it was confirmed that it was not simply going to be a Flash solo film but rather a very loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DC Comics}}''[[note]]Which had already been [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox adapted]] [[Series/TheFlash2014 twice]] by that point[[/note]] featuring the Creator/BenAffleck[[note]]In what was advertised in his final time in the role, itself bittersweet due to him being burnt out from the part after the behind-the-scenes troubles of ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and his solo film being retooled into ''Film/TheBatman2022'' as a result[[/note]] and Creator/MichaelKeaton iterations of Batman ''and'' a new take on Supergirl, it was seen as little more than a means to revamp the struggling DCEU instead of letting Flash stand on his own merits. This is because ''Flashpoint'' notoriously led to DC's surprise line-wide reboot, ComicBook/TheNew52 universe, and it was well-publicized that the movie would do the same for the DCEU.
** When the film finally did come out, it was well-publicized long before its release that Creator/JamesGunn was already resetting the DCEU for a new franchise, the "DCU", on a scale beyond even the ''previous'' DCEU revamp plans, beginning with dropping most, if not all DCEU stuff from continuity and recasting Superman and Lois Lane, so while Gunn and others claimed the film would be how the change happens, it was seen as [[TheFireflyEffect a dead end narratively]] for the DCEU. And it turned out that the film [[LyingCreator didn't]] really set up the DCU in any case, leading to more bad word of mouth from those who [[JustHereForGodzilla went to see it for that]].
** By the time the movie came out, it was by then yet another multiversal story after several such big movie and TV projects were released during its long development period, leading to the movie getting more unfavorable notices and word of mouth in comparison with those, on top of being seen or dismissed as "more of the same", further turning away more of the potential audience.
** A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement.

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* OvershadowedByControversy : From the moment the film was announced, audience interest was lukewarm due to several factors which compounded as time passed, so that it largely couldn't shake off the negativity surrounding it and wound up being one of DC's most expensive flops:
** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of ''Justice League'' was one of the more divisive points of those movies.
** Even for those more receptive to Miller's Barry, the behind-the-scenes drama for the movie and the DCEU at large, like the years it spent in DevelopmentHell trying to lock down directors and scripts, only soured impatient fans waiting for the film to finally come out, and contributed to the DCEU's poor reputation so that many were skeptical the movie would be any good.
** For DC fans, once it was confirmed that it was not simply going to be a Flash solo film but rather a very loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DC Comics}}''[[note]]Which had already been [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox adapted]] [[Series/TheFlash2014 twice]] by that point[[/note]] featuring the Creator/BenAffleck[[note]]In what was advertised in his final time in the role, itself bittersweet due to him being burnt out from the part after the behind-the-scenes troubles of ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and his solo film being retooled into ''Film/TheBatman2022'' as a result[[/note]] and Creator/MichaelKeaton iterations of Batman ''and'' a new take on Supergirl, it was seen as little more than a means to revamp the struggling DCEU instead of letting Flash stand on his own merits. This is because ''Flashpoint'' notoriously led to DC's surprise line-wide reboot, ComicBook/TheNew52 universe, and it was well-publicized that the movie would do the same for the DCEU.
** When the film finally did come out, it was well-publicized long before its release that Creator/JamesGunn was already resetting the DCEU for a new franchise, the "DCU", on a scale beyond even the ''previous'' DCEU revamp plans, beginning with dropping most, if not all DCEU stuff from continuity and recasting Superman and Lois Lane, so while Gunn and others claimed the film would be how the change happens, it was seen as [[TheFireflyEffect a dead end narratively]] for the DCEU. And it turned out that the film [[LyingCreator didn't]] really set up the DCU in any case, leading to more bad word of mouth from those who [[JustHereForGodzilla went to see it for that]].
** By the time the movie came out, it was by then yet another multiversal story after several such big movie and TV projects were released during its long development period, leading to the movie getting more unfavorable notices and word of mouth in comparison with those, on top of being seen or dismissed as "more of the same", further turning away more of the potential audience.
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A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement.

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** The [[TheMultiverse multiverse]] focus itself is another case of this, as it's not the only film or comic book adaptation to focus on it in the last few years (it should have come out much earlier when the concept still felt "fresh" cinematically speaking, but the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic and its long and {{troubled|production}} production had it come out long after it was the case, and the 2020 DC Fandome announcement that Creator/MichaelKeaton's Batman would be in the film had the effect of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse producers fast-tracking ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' to do the same thing with the eponymous hero's previous incarnations over a year in advance). DC's ''Arrowverse'' made frequent use of it (in particular, ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'', which even featured the DCEU Flash in short cameo appearance) and made a point of establishing every DC live action property is just a part of it, while the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse has turned it into their newest MythArc for Phase 4, never mind other Marvel properties too, such as Sony's ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManSpiderVerse'', and that's without talking about how it's been utilized in the comics and other media recently of both companies. By the time this film comes out, it will be just the latest to use it. Upon release, much of the film's criticism is focused on how it failed to do anything new with it (especially as it released the same month as ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'', which ''was'' praised for using the multiverse concept well, with many critics unfavourably comparing the two) and the cameos of past movies was seen as a cynical exploitation of viewer nostalgia and ultimately a waste of the concept. While ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'' has more fanservice around older DC properties which doesn't really affect the plot compared to the movie (due to copying its namesake comic and showing many alternate worlds getting destroyed), it at least integrated more interactions between select characters.[[labelnote:spoilers]]Coincidentally, this happens to include a few Earths overlapping between the two, including Earth-66, Earth-89, and Earth-96[[/labelnote]].

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** The [[TheMultiverse multiverse]] focus itself is another case of this, as it's not the only film or comic book adaptation to focus on it in the last few years (it should have come out much earlier when the concept still felt "fresh" cinematically speaking, but the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic and its long and {{troubled|production}} production had it come out long after it was the case, and the 2020 DC Fandome announcement that Creator/MichaelKeaton's Batman would be in the film had the effect of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse producers fast-tracking ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' to do the same thing with the eponymous hero's previous incarnations over a year in advance). DC's ''Arrowverse'' made frequent use of it (in particular, ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'', which even featured the DCEU Flash in short cameo appearance) and made a point of establishing every DC live action property is just a part of it, while the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse has turned it into their newest MythArc for Phase 4, never mind other Marvel properties too, such as Sony's ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManSpiderVerse'', and that's without talking about how it's been utilized in the comics and other media recently of both companies. By the time this the film comes finally came out, it will be just was merely the latest to use it. Upon release, utilize the multiverse as part of its story, with much of the film's criticism is being focused on how it failed to do anything new with it the concept (especially as it the film was released the same month as ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'', which ''was'' praised for using the multiverse concept well, with many critics unfavourably comparing the two) and the cameos of past movies was seen as a cynical exploitation of viewer nostalgia and ultimately a waste of the concept. While ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'' has more fanservice around older DC properties which doesn't really affect the plot compared to the movie (due to copying its namesake comic and showing many alternate worlds getting destroyed), it at least integrated more interactions between select characters.[[labelnote:spoilers]]Coincidentally, this happens to include a few Earths overlapping between the two, including Earth-66, Earth-89, and Earth-96[[/labelnote]].


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* OvershadowedByControversy : From the moment the film was announced, audience interest was lukewarm due to several factors which compounded as time passed, so that it largely couldn't shake off the negativity surrounding it and wound up being one of DC's most expensive flops:
** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of ''Justice League'' was one of the more divisive points of those movies.
** Even for those more receptive to Miller's Barry, the behind-the-scenes drama for the movie and the DCEU at large, like the years it spent in DevelopmentHell trying to lock down directors and scripts, only soured impatient fans waiting for the film to finally come out, and contributed to the DCEU's poor reputation so that many were skeptical the movie would be any good.
** For DC fans, once it was confirmed that it was not simply going to be a Flash solo film but rather a very loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DC Comics}}''[[note]]Which had already been [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox adapted]] [[Series/TheFlash2014 twice]] by that point[[/note]] featuring the Creator/BenAffleck[[note]]In what was advertised in his final time in the role, itself bittersweet due to him being burnt out from the part after the behind-the-scenes troubles of ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and his solo film being retooled into ''Film/TheBatman2022'' as a result[[/note]] and Creator/MichaelKeaton iterations of Batman ''and'' a new take on Supergirl, it was seen as little more than a means to revamp the struggling DCEU instead of letting Flash stand on his own merits. This is because ''Flashpoint'' notoriously led to DC's surprise line-wide reboot, ComicBook/TheNew52 universe, and it was well-publicized that the movie would do the same for the DCEU.
** When the film finally did come out, it was well-publicized long before its release that Creator/JamesGunn was already resetting the DCEU for a new franchise, the "DCU", on a scale beyond even the ''previous'' DCEU revamp plans, beginning with dropping most, if not all DCEU stuff from continuity and recasting Superman and Lois Lane, so while Gunn and others claimed the film would be how the change happens, it was seen as [[TheFireflyEffect a dead end narratively]] for the DCEU. And it turned out that the film [[LyingCreator didn't]] really set up the DCU in any case, leading to more bad word of mouth from those who [[JustHereForGodzilla went to see it for that]].
** By the time the movie came out, it was by then yet another multiversal story after several such big movie and TV projects were released during its long development period, leading to the movie getting more unfavorable notices and word of mouth in comparison with those, on top of being seen or dismissed as "more of the same", further turning away more of the potential audience.
** A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement.
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*** It also doesn't help that in Spider-Verse 'Canon Events' were a metaphor for common tropes across Spider-Man stories that were part of a larger meta-narrative about what defines the character of Spider-Man. While 'Inevitable Intersections' are just used to prevent audiences from going "Why couldn't they just go back in time and change that?".
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The trope is Audience-Alienating PREMISE, not Audience-Alienating Adaptation, Audience-Alienating Franchise, or Audience-Alienating Behind-the-Scenes Drama. The premise of the movie is that a young man has to undo the damage he caused inadvertently through time travel. How is that audience-alienating?


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: From the moment the film was announced, audience interest was lukewarm due to several factors which compounded as time passed, so that it was largely OvershadowedByControversy and wound up being one of DC's most expensive flops:
** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of ''Justice League'' was one of the more divisive points of those movies.
** Even for those more receptive to Miller's Barry, the behind-the-scenes drama for the movie and the DCEU at large, like the years it spent in DevelopmentHell trying to lock down directors and scripts, only soured impatient fans waiting for the film to finally come out, and contributed to the DCEU's poor reputation so that many were skeptical the movie would be any good.
** For DC fans, once it was confirmed that it was not simply going to be a Flash solo film but rather a very loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DC Comics}}''[[note]]Which had already been [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox adapted]] [[Series/TheFlash2014 twice]] by that point[[/note]] featuring the Creator/BenAffleck[[note]]In what was advertised in his final time in the role, itself bittersweet due to him being burnt out from the part after the behind-the-scenes troubles of ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and his solo film being retooled into ''Film/TheBatman2022'' as a result[[/note]] and Creator/MichaelKeaton iterations of Batman ''and'' a new take on Supergirl, it was seen as little more than a means to revamp the struggling DCEU instead of letting Flash stand on his own merits. This is because ''Flashpoint'' notoriously led to DC's surprise line-wide reboot, ComicBook/TheNew52 universe, and it was well-publicized that the movie would do the same for the DCEU.
** When the film finally did come out, it was well-publicized long before its release that Creator/JamesGunn was already resetting the DCEU for a new franchise, the "DCU", on a scale beyond even the ''previous'' DCEU revamp plans, beginning with dropping most, if not all DCEU stuff from continuity and recasting Superman and Lois Lane, so while Gunn and others claimed the film would be how the change happens, it was seen as [[TheFireflyEffect a dead end narratively]] for the DCEU. And it turned out that the film [[LyingCreator didn't]] really set up the DCU in any case, leading to more bad word of mouth from those who [[JustHereForGodzilla went to see it for that]].
** By the time the movie came out, it was by then yet another multiversal story after several such big movie and TV projects were released during its long development period, leading to the movie getting more unfavorable notices and word of mouth in comparison with those, on top of being seen or dismissed as "more of the same", further turning away more of the potential audience.
** A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement.
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** "Yeah... I'm Man."[[note]]The shot of Keaton Batman first revealing himself in the Batsuit [[https://i.redd.it/aw5ea1wdb3ec1.jpeg became an exploitable image]] from the notoriously crazy r/[[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries ArkhamBatman]] [[Website/{{Reddit}} subreddit]], for their RunningGag of removing Batman's pointy ears and referring to him just as "Man". This devolved into other manipulations, such as "Man" with three ears being called "Forkman", given hair and called "Woman", "Biblically Accurate Man", putting the pointy ears back and calling him "[[ShapedLikeItself Man with Ears]]", and going on to remove the ears from every other incarnation of Batman.[[/note]]
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: From the moment the film was announced, audience interest was lukewarm due to several factors which compounded as time passed, so that it was largely OvershadowedByControversy and wound up being one of DC's most expensive flops:
** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of ''Justice League'' was one of the more divisive points of those movies.
** Even for those more receptive to Miller's Barry, the behind-the-scenes drama for the movie and the DCEU at large, like the years it spent in DevelopmentHell trying to lock down directors and scripts, only soured impatient fans waiting for the film to finally come out, and contributed to the DCEU's poor reputation so that many were skeptical the movie would be any good.
** For DC fans, once it was confirmed that it was not simply going to be a Flash solo film but rather a very loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DC Comics}}''[[note]]Which had already been [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox adapted]] [[Series/TheFlash2014 twice]] by that point[[/note]] featuring the Creator/BenAffleck[[note]]In what was advertised in his final time in the role, itself bittersweet due to him being burnt out from the part after the behind-the-scenes troubles of ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and his solo film being retooled into ''Film/TheBatman2022'' as a result[[/note]] and Creator/MichaelKeaton iterations of Batman ''and'' a new take on Supergirl, it was seen as little more than a means to revamp the struggling DCEU instead of letting Flash stand on his own merits. This is because ''Flashpoint'' notoriously led to DC's surprise line-wide reboot, ComicBook/TheNew52 universe, and it was well-publicized that the movie would do the same for the DCEU.
** When the film finally did come out, it was well-publicized long before its release that Creator/JamesGunn was already resetting the DCEU for a new franchise, the "DCU", on a scale beyond even the ''previous'' DCEU revamp plans, beginning with dropping most, if not all DCEU stuff from continuity and recasting Superman and Lois Lane, so while Gunn and others claimed the film would be how the change happens, it was seen as [[TheFireflyEffect a dead end narratively]] for the DCEU. And it turned out that the film [[LyingCreator didn't]] really set up the DCU in any case, leading to more bad word of mouth from those who [[JustHereForGodzilla went to see it for that]].
** By the time the movie came out, it was by then yet another multiversal story after several such big movie and TV projects were released during its long development period, leading to the movie getting more unfavorable notices and word of mouth in comparison with those, on top of being seen or dismissed as "more of the same", further turning away more of the potential audience.
** A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement.
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Reads more like Tainted by the Preview than Audience-Alienating Premise.


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: From the moment the film was announced, audience interest was lukewarm due to several factors which compounded as time passed, so that it wound up being one of DC's most expensive flops:
** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of ''Justice League'' was one of the more divisive points of those movies.
** The behind-the-scenes drama for the movie and the DCEU at large, like the years it spent in DevelopmentHell trying to lock down directors and scripts, only soured impatient fans waiting for the film to finally come out, and contributed to the DCEU's poor reputation so that many were skeptical the movie would be any good.
** For DC fans, once it was confirmed that it was not simply going to be a Flash solo film but rather a very loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DC Comics}}''[[note]]Which had already been [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox adapted]] [[Series/TheFlash2014 twice]] by that point[[/note]] featuring the Creator/BenAffleck[[note]]In what was advertised in his final time in the role, itself bittersweet due to him being burnt out from the part after the behind-the-scenes troubles of ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and his solo film being retooled into ''Film/TheBatman2022'' as a result[[/note]] and Creator/MichaelKeaton iterations of Batman ''and'' a new take on Supergirl, it was seen as little more than a means to revamp the struggling DCEU instead of letting Flash stand on his own merits. This is because ''Flashpoint'' notoriously led to DC's surprise line-wide reboot, ComicBook/TheNew52 universe, and it was well-publicized that the movie would do the same for the DCEU.
** When the film finally did come out, it was well-publicized long before its release that Creator/JamesGunn was already resetting the DCEU for a new franchise, the "DCU", on a scale beyond even the ''previous'' DCEU revamp plans, beginning with dropping most, if not all DCEU stuff from continuity and recasting Superman and Lois Lane, so while Gunn and others claimed the film would be how the change happens, it was seen as a dead end narratively for the DCEU. And it turned out that the film [[LyingCreator didn't]] really set up the DCU in any case, leading to more bad word of mouth from those who [[JustHereForGodzilla went to see it for that]].
** By the time the movie came out, it was also yet another multiversal story after several such big movie and TV projects were released during its long development period.
** A year before the movie released, lead actor Creator/EzraMiller was involved in several high profile legal scandals that led many fans to refuse to attend the film in theaters due to Miller's involvement.

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** Zig-zagged since [[spoiler:he's a Flash, and thus not unexpected to a degree for Flash/multiverse stuff,]] but [[spoiler:a version of the Golden Age Flash Jay Garrick presented with no explanation is still a relatively deep cut]], and even more unexpected is that [[spoiler:he's inserted into the world of George Reeves's Superman who was the only superbeing in his original show. Various outlets also erroneously reported Jay's actor to be Creator/TeddySears doing a RoleReprise of sorts from the Arrowverse ''Flash'' TV show, which would be both expected due to being
a Flash and unexpected for being the sole representation of that show and the wider Arrowverse (instead of its Barry Grant Gustin, the 90s TV Barry Creator/JohnWesleyShipp who also plays Gustin-Barry's dad Henry, etc). But it ''wasn't'' Teddy Sears but rather one of the film crew, editor Jason Ballantine, in an uncredited role]].

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being a Flash and unexpected for being the sole representation of that show and the wider Arrowverse (instead of its Barry Grant Gustin, the 90s TV Barry Creator/JohnWesleyShipp who also plays Gustin-Barry's dad Henry, etc). But it ''wasn't'' Teddy Sears but rather one of the film crew, editor Jason Ballantine, in an uncredited role]].
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a Flash and unexpected for being the sole representation of that show and the wider Arrowverse (instead of its Barry Grant Gustin, the 90s TV Barry Creator/JohnWesleyShipp who also plays Gustin-Barry's dad Henry, etc). But it ''wasn't'' Teddy Sears but rather one of the film crew, editor Jason Ballantine, in an uncredited role]].
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** Michael Keaton's Batman first shows up in the film's second act, and doesn't get nearly enough focus to justify his inclusion in this film (over a more practical choice like Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan's Thomas Wayne, as shown in the ''Flashpoint'' comic on which the film is based). The only acknowledgement of his past adventures is [[Film/Batman1989 the bag of laughs from the Joker's death scene]]. The Batmobile likewise is shown off but never used, being little more than meaningless fanservice.
** Supergirl (played by Sasha Calle) shows up even later than Batman, and is scarcely in the final product, only appearing for a handful of scenes, most of which shows her indisposed (weakened by the cell she was kept in by the Siberian guards) or [[spoiler:repeatedly being killed by Zod and having her blood harvested]]. The most useful thing she does in the film is help Barry I regain his powers by flying him up into a thunderstorm, and she functionally takes a backseat in the climax of the film for the battle between [[spoiler:Barry I/Barry II/Dark Flash]]. Unused sequences involving her character (which were apparently much more violent in nature, suggesting she had more to do during the battle scenes) and two unused endings (where she appeared during the [[spoiler:AlternateContinuity established at the end of the film, alongside Keaton's Bruce Wayne, and in one version Henry Cavill's Superman as well]]) were ultimately scrapped prior to the final cut.

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** Michael Keaton's Batman first shows up in the film's second act, act and doesn't get nearly enough focus to justify his inclusion in this film (over a more practical choice like Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan's Thomas Wayne, as shown in the ''Flashpoint'' comic on which the film is based). The only acknowledgement of his past adventures is [[Film/Batman1989 the bag of laughs from the Joker's death scene]]. The Batmobile likewise is shown off but never used, being little more than meaningless fanservice.
** Supergirl (played by Sasha Calle) shows up even later than Batman, and is scarcely in the final product, only appearing for a handful of scenes, most of which shows her indisposed (weakened by the cell she was kept in by the Siberian guards) or [[spoiler:repeatedly being killed by Zod and having her blood harvested]]. The most useful thing she does in the film is help Barry I regain his powers by flying him up into a thunderstorm, and she functionally takes a backseat in the climax of the film for the battle between [[spoiler:Barry I/Barry II/Dark Flash]]. Unused sequences involving her character (which were apparently much more violent in nature, suggesting she had more to do during the battle scenes) and two unused endings (where she appeared during the [[spoiler:AlternateContinuity established at the end of the film, alongside Keaton's Bruce Wayne, Wayne and in one version another version, Henry Cavill's Superman and Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman as well]]) were ultimately scrapped prior to the final cut.



** While an adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' on a surface level, the film never actually utilizes any of the elements from that story that people were most likely to find interesting, including different people in the same roles (barring Supergirl) or a world war threatening to annihilate the planet. Instead, it is used as set dressing for a different take on the same conflict that was already used in ''Man of Steel''.

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** While an adaptation of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' on a surface level, the film never actually utilizes any of the elements from that story that people were most likely to find interesting, including different people in the same roles (barring Supergirl) or a world war threatening to annihilate the planet. Instead, it is used as set dressing for a different take on the same conflict that was already used in ''Man of Steel''.''Film/ManOfSteel''.



** Both iterations of Batman being confirmed to appear in the film came as a surprise to fans. Creator/MichaelKeaton's return was surprising due to it being ''thirty years'' since he last played the character, and said character being from a different continuity, and Creator/BenAffleck's return was surprising due to his publicized retirement from the role, to the point his departure forced a potential solo film for his character to be completely reconfigured into ''Film/TheBatman2022'', though he eventually wound up participating in brief additional photography for ''Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague'' prior to ''The Flash''. In addition, there's another Batman present beyond Affleck and Keaton: [[spoiler:Creator/AdamWest, once again lamenting that [[Series/Batman1966 sometimes you just can't get rid of a bomb]].]]
** The film being the DCEU debut of Supergirl took many by surprise, as she hadn't even been rumored to appear in the film prior to the announcement of Creator/SashaCalle's casting. If anything, fans had long speculated that she'd be introduced in a solo film or a hypothetical ''Man of Steel'' sequel (though events from 2018 onward had made the latter prospect unlikely).
** [[Film/ManOfSteel General Zod and Faora]] [[https://collider.com/michael-shannon-cast-the-flash-movie/ also return]] from ''Man of Steel'', despite that the former died and the latter was sent to the Phantom Zone in that film (and that Zod's body was [[Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice later turned into Doomsday]]). However, this could be justified since the film is about TheMultiverse and {{Alternate Timeline}}s, thus the Zod and the Faora seen in this movie are [[AlternateSelf Alternate Selves]] from a timeline Barry Allen accidentally creates after going to the past.
** After the highly publicized departure of Creator/HenryCavill from ''The Flash'' after his brief cameo in ''Film/BlackAdam2022'', fans were taken aback when the director revealed there would be ''a'' Superman in it after all: [[spoiler:''Creator/NicolasCage's'' Superman from the unmade ''Superman Lives''!]] On top of that, [[spoiler:Cavill's Superman technically appears anyway, just not through actual new footage (unlike Keaton, Affleck, etc.) - along with Creator/ChristopherReeve's Superman from his movie series, and even more unexpectedly, ''Creator/GeorgeReeves's'' Superman from his TV series]].

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** Both iterations of Batman being confirmed to appear in the film came as a surprise to fans. Creator/MichaelKeaton's return was surprising due to it being ''thirty years'' since he last played the character, and with said character being from a different continuity, continuity and Creator/BenAffleck's return was surprising due to his publicized retirement from the role, to the point his departure forced a potential solo film for his character to be completely reconfigured into ''Film/TheBatman2022'', though he eventually wound up participating in brief additional photography for ''Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague'' prior to ''The Flash''. In addition, there's another Batman present beyond Affleck and Keaton: [[spoiler:Creator/AdamWest, once again lamenting that [[Series/Batman1966 sometimes you just can't get rid of a bomb]].]]
** The film being the DCEU debut of Supergirl took many by surprise, as she hadn't even been rumored to appear in the film prior to the announcement of Creator/SashaCalle's casting. If anything, fans had long speculated that she'd be introduced in a solo film or a hypothetical ''Man of Steel'' ''Film/ManOfSteel'' sequel (though events from 2018 onward had made the latter prospect unlikely).
** [[Film/ManOfSteel General Zod and Faora]] [[https://collider.com/michael-shannon-cast-the-flash-movie/ also return]] from ''Man of Steel'', ''Film/ManOfSteel'', despite that the former died and the latter was sent to the Phantom Zone in that film (and that Zod's body was [[Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice later turned into Doomsday]]). However, this could be justified since the film is about TheMultiverse and {{Alternate Timeline}}s, thus the Zod and the Faora seen in this movie are [[AlternateSelf Alternate Selves]] from a timeline that Barry Allen accidentally creates created after going to and changing the past.
** After the highly publicized departure of Creator/HenryCavill from ''The Flash'' after his brief cameo in ''Film/BlackAdam2022'', fans were taken aback when the director revealed there would be ''a'' Superman in it after all: [[spoiler:''Creator/NicolasCage's'' Superman from the unmade ''Superman Lives''!]] On top of that, [[spoiler:Cavill's Superman technically appears anyway, just not through actual new footage (unlike Keaton, Affleck, etc.) - along with Creator/ChristopherReeve's Superman from his movie series, series and even more unexpectedly, ''Creator/GeorgeReeves's'' Superman from his TV series]].



** Flash himself is frequently CGI even outside of the Speed Force scenes, and to say it looks off would be an understatement. You can tell whenever Past!Barry is either Ezra themself, or a double with a CGI head of Miller on top.

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** Flash himself is frequently CGI even outside of the Speed Force scenes, scenes and to say it looks off would be an understatement. You can tell whenever Past!Barry is either Ezra themself, or a double with a CGI head of Miller on top.



** After having to suffer with the destruction of her homeworld, Kara gets captured and confined to a pitch-black prison where the lack of sunlight would eventually weaken her to the point she could barely stand. After being rescued and regaining her faith in humanity, she confronts Zod over his plans to terraform Earth only to learn that [[spoiler:his forces had killed her baby cousin Kal-El. Broken and enraged, she tries to kill Zod in revenge- but fails and dies in ''every possible outcome'' no matter how much Barry tries to prevent it]]. Plus on a meta-level [[spoiler:she was originally supposed to survive the movie, and possibly coexist happily with her now-adult cousin, if not for ExecutiveMeddling]]. Suffice to say, she needs several hugs.

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** After having to suffer with the destruction of her homeworld, Kara gets captured and confined to a pitch-black prison where the lack of sunlight would eventually weaken her to the point she could barely stand. After being rescued and regaining her faith in humanity, she confronts Zod over his plans to terraform Earth only to learn that [[spoiler:his forces had killed her baby cousin Kal-El. Broken and enraged, she tries to kill Zod in revenge- but fails and dies in ''every possible outcome'' no matter how much Barry tries to prevent it]]. Plus on a meta-level [[spoiler:she was originally supposed to survive the movie, movie and possibly coexist happily with her now-adult cousin, if not for ExecutiveMeddling]]. Suffice to say, she needs several hugs.



** Supergirl's design has not been well-received for how it replaced the short skirt with leggings only to make [[PaintedOnPants the leggings look ridiculously tight around the crotch]] with the same alien markings that Henry Cavill's Superman costume has, causing it to draw more attention. People have commented that it just looks uncomfortable, and even the people who applaud the decision to ditch the GenderedOutfit aspect of her design decry how weirdly revealing it still looks despite covering her from neck to toe.
** Both Alternate Barry and Dark Flash have also been met with this. The improvised costume used by the former, essentially a reused Batman suit, is accused of playing into the complaint that DCEU Barry is too reliant on Batman despite the aforementioned issues with the Keaton Batman suit, resulting in this Barry having a really awkward looking neck and cowl. Dark Flash meanwhile is given an overly grimdark design that has been unfavourably compared to the Michael Bay era Transformers looks or the similar Savitar suit used in ''Series/TheFlash2014'' [[spoiler:which, considering both were essentially the same character, an insane alternate Barry, is weirdly fitting]].
** Creator/BenAffleck's Batman suit for the film hasn't been well received either. Especially it lacking texture unlike the Michael Wilkinson suits from previous DCEU movies, the odd "six-pack rings"-like decoration, the bat symbol on the chest looking plastick-ish and the [[SpecialEffectFailure CGI cape sticking out like a sore thumb]] on Bruce's shoulders during the chase.

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** Supergirl's design has not been well-received for how it replaced the short skirt with leggings only to make [[PaintedOnPants the leggings look ridiculously tight around the crotch]] with the same alien markings that Henry Cavill's Superman costume has, causing it to draw more attention. People have commented that it just looks uncomfortable, uncomfortable and even the people who applaud the decision to ditch the GenderedOutfit aspect of her design decry how weirdly revealing it still looks despite covering her from neck to toe.
** Both Alternate Barry and Dark Flash have also been met with this. The improvised costume used by the former, essentially a reused Batman suit, is accused of playing into the complaint that DCEU Barry is too reliant on Batman despite the aforementioned issues with the Keaton Batman suit, resulting in this Barry having a really awkward looking neck and cowl. Dark Flash meanwhile is given an overly grimdark design that has been unfavourably compared to the Michael Bay era Transformers looks or the similar Savitar suit used in ''Series/TheFlash2014'' [[spoiler:which, considering both were essentially the same character, an insane alternate Barry, Barry Allen, is weirdly fitting]].
** Creator/BenAffleck's Batman suit for the film hasn't been well received either. Especially it lacking texture unlike the Michael Wilkinson suits from previous DCEU movies, the odd "six-pack rings"-like decoration, the bat symbol on the chest looking plastick-ish plastic-ish and the [[SpecialEffectFailure CGI cape sticking out like a sore thumb]] on Bruce's shoulders during the chase.a chase scene.
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** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in both versions of Justice League was one of the more divisive points of those movies.

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** The film was ''not'' particularly well-received from fans of the Flash comics, a lot of which stemmed from this. Putting aside the fact Ezra Miller was considered highly miscast for Barry Allen back when they were first cast in 2014 for ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', as well as Barry being changed from a (middle-aged) serious and well-respected hero into a (young) goofy, quirky rookie in ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'', but the film omits a number of important aspects of the Flash franchise (namely, The Flash Family and the Rogues) in favor of pushing Batman and Supergirl while having Zod as the villain (and his characterization was far less complex than it was in ''Film/ManOfSteel''). This goes further with the fact the film adapts the controversial ''Flashpoint'' storyline, but then omits the details from that which audiences liked, namely [[EnsembleDarkhorse Thomas Wayne's Batman]] (and the prospect of having Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan as him once), while also reducing the Flashpoint timeline's CrapsackWorld elements that was the entire reason ''why'' Barry has to let his mom's death stick (never mind that, because of other changes made, the film has a great number of AdaptationInducedPlotHole issues as a result). Replacing Eobard Thawne with [[spoiler:a villainous Barry Allen in terms of the villainous speedster, and a random, nameless, non-powered mugger in the case of Nora Allen's killer]] is a particular sticking point.

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** The film was ''not'' particularly well-received from fans of the Flash comics, a lot of which stemmed from this. Putting aside the fact Ezra Miller was considered highly miscast for Barry Allen back when they were first cast in 2014 for ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', as well as Barry being changed from a (middle-aged) serious and well-respected hero into a (young) goofy, quirky rookie in ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'', both versions of ''Justice League'', but the film omits a number of important aspects of the Flash franchise (namely, The Flash Family and the Rogues) in favor of pushing Batman and Supergirl while having Zod as the villain (and his characterization was far less complex than it was in ''Film/ManOfSteel''). This goes further with the fact the film adapts the controversial ''Flashpoint'' storyline, but then omits the details from that which audiences liked, namely [[EnsembleDarkhorse Thomas Wayne's Batman]] (and the prospect of having Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan as him once), while also reducing the Flashpoint timeline's CrapsackWorld elements that was the entire reason ''why'' Barry has to let his mom's death stick (never mind that, because of other changes made, the film has a great number of AdaptationInducedPlotHole issues as a result). Replacing Eobard Thawne with [[spoiler:a villainous Barry Allen in terms of the villainous speedster, and a random, nameless, non-powered mugger in the case of Nora Allen's killer]] is a particular sticking point.



** The new Flash costume is considered an improvement over the previous one from both versions ''Justice League'', however, the cowl doesn't look like it was fitted for Ezra Miller's head, with one shot in the teaser showing it slightly tilted so that it looks like it's about to get in Barry's eyes. When the suit was better seen on-stand, many decried it further for the fake muscle padding that causes it to look almost like a naked alien's skin and overall appearing too bulky looking.

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** The new Flash costume is considered an improvement over the previous one from both versions of ''Justice League'', however, the cowl doesn't look like it was fitted for Ezra Miller's head, with one shot in the teaser showing it slightly tilted so that it looks like it's about to get in Barry's eyes. When the suit was better seen on-stand, many decried it further for the fake muscle padding that causes it to look almost like a naked alien's skin and overall appearing too bulky looking.
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* BadassDecay: Nam'ek and Faora in the original 2013 were a credible threat to Superman, whereas in this timeline they are instead demoted to mid-level minions, who Batman can briefly knock out with a bomb and the Flashes can defeat with moderate difficulty.difficulty, respectively.



** In addition, [[spoiler:Affleck's Batman had an apparently post-credits scene that was cut, wearing a different black and silver Batsuit and unmasked. Coupled with Keaton's Batman taking his place in the DCEU going forward, this probably meant that Affleck's Batman was somehow lost in the multiverse as a SequelHook]], which intrigues some fans. Unlike the above, this was revealed through a behind-the-scenes feature with the home release. At least [[spoiler:the black and silver Batsuit is compared favorably to the blue and grey one he wears in the film proper]].

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** In addition, [[spoiler:Affleck's Batman had an apparently post-credits scene that was cut, wearing a different black and silver Batsuit and unmasked. Coupled with Keaton's Batman taking his place in the DCEU going forward, this probably meant that Affleck's Batman was somehow lost in the multiverse as a SequelHook]], which intrigues intrigued some fans. Unlike the above, this was revealed through a behind-the-scenes feature with the home release. At least [[spoiler:the black and silver Batsuit is compared favorably to the blue and grey one he wears in the film proper]].



** The [[TheMultiverse multiverse]] focus itself is another case of this, as it's not the only film or comic book adaptation to focus on it in the last few years (it should have come out much earlier when the concept still felt "fresh" cinematically speaking, but the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic and its long and {{troubled|production}} production had it come out long after it was the case, and the 2020 DC Fandome announcement that Creator/MichaelKeaton's Batman would be in the film had the effect of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse producers fast-tracking ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' to do the same thing with the eponymous hero's previous incarnations over a year in advance). DC's ''Arrowverse'' made frequent use of it (in particular, ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'', which even featured the DCEU Flash), and made a point of establishing every DC live action property is just part of it, while the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse has turned it into their newest MythArc for Phase 4, never mind other Marvel properties too, such as Sony's ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManSpiderVerse'', and that's without talking about how it's been utilized in the comics and other media recently of both companies. By the time this film comes out, it will be just the latest to use it. Upon release, much of the film's criticism is focused on how it failed to do anything new with it (especially as it released the same month as ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'', which ''was'' praised for using the multiverse concept well, and many critics unfavourably compared the two), and the cameos of past movies was seen as a cynical exploitation of viewer nostalgia and ultimately a waste of the concept. While ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'' has more fanservice around older DC properties which doesn't really affect the plot compared to the movie (due to copying its namesake comic and showing many alternate worlds getting destroyed), it at least integrated more interactions between select characters.[[labelnote:spoilers]]Coincidentally, this happens to include a few Earths overlapping between the two, including Earth-66, Earth-89, and Earth-96[[/labelnote]].

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** The [[TheMultiverse multiverse]] focus itself is another case of this, as it's not the only film or comic book adaptation to focus on it in the last few years (it should have come out much earlier when the concept still felt "fresh" cinematically speaking, but the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic and its long and {{troubled|production}} production had it come out long after it was the case, and the 2020 DC Fandome announcement that Creator/MichaelKeaton's Batman would be in the film had the effect of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse producers fast-tracking ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' to do the same thing with the eponymous hero's previous incarnations over a year in advance). DC's ''Arrowverse'' made frequent use of it (in particular, ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'', which even featured the DCEU Flash), Flash in short cameo appearance) and made a point of establishing every DC live action property is just a part of it, while the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse has turned it into their newest MythArc for Phase 4, never mind other Marvel properties too, such as Sony's ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManSpiderVerse'', and that's without talking about how it's been utilized in the comics and other media recently of both companies. By the time this film comes out, it will be just the latest to use it. Upon release, much of the film's criticism is focused on how it failed to do anything new with it (especially as it released the same month as ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'', which ''was'' praised for using the multiverse concept well, and with many critics unfavourably compared comparing the two), two) and the cameos of past movies was seen as a cynical exploitation of viewer nostalgia and ultimately a waste of the concept. While ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'' has more fanservice around older DC properties which doesn't really affect the plot compared to the movie (due to copying its namesake comic and showing many alternate worlds getting destroyed), it at least integrated more interactions between select characters.[[labelnote:spoilers]]Coincidentally, this happens to include a few Earths overlapping between the two, including Earth-66, Earth-89, and Earth-96[[/labelnote]].
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** The film was part of the [[BrokenBase very divisive]] DCEU, with Creator/EzraMiller's Flash being based on the modern take on Barry Allen instead of his successor Wally West, which has been a sticking point for DC fans since this take on Barry is a BaseBreakingCharacter. Apart from that, Miller's portrayal of Barry in ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' was one of the more divisive points of that movie.

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* HeartWarmingInHindsight: The post credits scene where Arthur and Barry are out drinking could be viewed as such if one assumes they were out celebrating [[Film/AquamanAndTheLostKingdom Arthur becoming a father]].
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** The marketing for the film placed a lot of emphasis on the supporting appearances by Keaton's Batman and Sasha Callé's Supergirl, to the point that some trailers and posters featured them prominently while not even showing Flash's ''face''. Many snarked or speculated that this was due to Warner Bros. not having faith in either the ''Flash'' franchise, the [[BaseBreakingCharacter controversial character]] of Barry Allen (both this version and in general) or trying desperately to hide the now-infamous Ezra Miller, whose long list of very public run-ins with the police and allegations of violent abuse and grooming led to them taking no part in promotion of the movie. Alternatively, the emphasis on time travel and multiverse stuff was taken as WB wanting badly to introduce such concepts before James Gunn's ContinuityReboot and as such included mention of them heavily in the marketing.

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** The marketing for the film placed a lot of emphasis on the supporting appearances by Keaton's Batman and Sasha Callé's Supergirl, to the point that some trailers and posters featured them prominently while not even showing Flash's ''face''. Many snarked or speculated that this was due to Warner Bros. not having faith in either the ''Flash'' franchise, the [[BaseBreakingCharacter controversial character]] of Barry Allen (both this version and in general) or trying desperately to hide the now-infamous Ezra Miller, whose long list of very public run-ins with the police and allegations of violent abuse and grooming led to them taking no part in promotion of the movie. Alternatively, the emphasis on time travel and multiverse stuff was taken as WB wanting badly to introduce such concepts before James Gunn's ContinuityReboot and as such included mention of them heavily in the marketing.



** The VFX in any scene involving slow motion or the chrono-bowl don't look natural. Andres Muschietti tried to justify this by stating that the Speed Force distorts the Flash's perspective so everything looks off, but ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and ''Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague'' both did the exact same thing and looked far more realistic despite being made 6 years before (and the former having had its own share of rushed VFX), so that justification fell flat on arrival.
** And this justification falls further when many of the other big action scenes, like the Ghotham Crisis and [[spoiler:the battle with Zod and his forces]] also look unfinished and as fake as the Speed Force and chrono-bowl sequences.

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** The VFX in any scene involving slow motion or the chrono-bowl don't look natural. Andres Muschietti tried to justify this by stating that the Speed Force distorts the Flash's perspective so everything looks off, but ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and ''Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague'' both did the exact same thing and looked far more realistic despite being made 6 years before (and the former having had its own share of rushed VFX), so that justification fell flat on arrival.
** And this justification falls further when many of the other big action scenes, like the Ghotham Gotham Crisis and [[spoiler:the battle with Zod and his forces]] also look unfinished and as fake as the Speed Force and chrono-bowl sequences.

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