Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / Stargirl

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** Several of the things Leo says and does to Stargirl could easily be viewed as emotional abuse.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Sounds like a justifying edit with Weasel Words ("a little bit" isn't saying much).


* StrawmanHasAPoint: To be a little fair to Leo, he's known the other kids in the Mica High longer than he's known Stargirl, so his breaking up with her, while cruel, makes a little sense.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
To be fair

Added DiffLines:

*StrawmanHasAPoint: To be a little fair to Leo, he's known the other kids in the Mica High longer than he's known Stargirl, so his breaking up with her, while cruel, makes a little sense.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FirstInstallmentWins: The sequel is not as popular as the first book, probably because the first book is common reading material for elementary and middle school.

to:

* FirstInstallmentWins: The sequel is not as popular as the first book, probably because the first book is common reading material for elementary and middle school.school students.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesDissonance: One of Stargirl's projects is taking many everyday pictures of a little boy named Peter Sinkowitz as he grows up, so she can compile them into a scrapbook and give it to his parents when he's older. Cute when the book was written, but in this day and age, it would probably be considered some form of stalking and/or invasion of privacy, especially since his parents don't know she's doing it. Nowadays, some parents won't even post photos of their children on social media because they're too afraid of the photos being found and used by child predators.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: One of Stargirl's projects is taking many everyday pictures of a little boy named Peter Sinkowitz as he grows up, so she can compile them into a scrapbook and give it to his parents when he's older. Cute when the book was written, but in this day and age, it would probably be considered some form of stalking and/or invasion of privacy, especially privacy (imagine a random stranger telling you they've been taking pictures of your child since his parents don't know she's doing it.he was in preschool). Nowadays, some parents won't even post photos of their children on social media because they're too afraid of the photos being found and used by child predators.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesDissonance: One of Stargirl's projects is taking many everyday pictures of a little boy named Peter Sinkowitz as he grows up, so she can compile them into a scrapbook and give it to his parents when he's older. Cute when the book was written, but in this day and age, it would probably be considered some form of stalking, especially since his parents don't know she's doing it. Nowadays, some parents won't even post photos of their children on social media because they're too afraid of the photos being found and used by child predators.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: One of Stargirl's projects is taking many everyday pictures of a little boy named Peter Sinkowitz as he grows up, so she can compile them into a scrapbook and give it to his parents when he's older. Cute when the book was written, but in this day and age, it would probably be considered some form of stalking, stalking and/or invasion of privacy, especially since his parents don't know she's doing it. Nowadays, some parents won't even post photos of their children on social media because they're too afraid of the photos being found and used by child predators.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesDissonance: One of Stargirl's projects is taking many everyday pictures of a little boy named Peter Sinkowitz as he grows up, so she can compile them into a scrapbook and give it to his parents when he's older. Cute when the book was written, but in this day and age, it would probably be considered some form of stalking.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: One of Stargirl's projects is taking many everyday pictures of a little boy named Peter Sinkowitz as he grows up, so she can compile them into a scrapbook and give it to his parents when he's older. Cute when the book was written, but in this day and age, it would probably be considered some form of stalking.stalking, especially since his parents don't know she's doing it. Nowadays, some parents won't even post photos of their children on social media because they're too afraid of the photos being found and used by child predators.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ValuesDissonance: One of Stargirl's projects is taking many everyday pictures of a little boy named Peter Sinkowitz as he grows up, so she can compile them into a scrapbook and give it to his parents when he's older. Cute when the book was written, but in this day and age, it would probably be considered some form of stalking.

Added: 509

Changed: 322

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Leo a basically good guy who made a mistake and deserves a second chance, or is he a spineless DesignatedHero who it would be best if Stargirl never saw again?
%%* IronWoobie: Stargirl. Good God.

to:

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
**
Is Leo a basically good guy who made a mistake and deserves a second chance, or is he a spineless DesignatedHero who it would be best if Stargirl never saw again?
%%* ** The captain of Mica's basketball team says that seeing Stargirl comfort an opposing team's player when he got injured took the heart out of him. But does he really believe that, or is he just saying it because it's what everyone else agrees with?
*
IronWoobie: Stargirl. Good God.Stargirl gets shunned and has her kindnesses rejected by the student body just because she cheers for the other team at basketball games and comforted an opposing player when he got injured, but doesn't let it crush her soul. Or she tries not to.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHerBack: Justified in both books and explored; Stargirl has to admit that [[spoiler:Leo was a terrible boyfriend who dumped her to conform to peer pressure, and he didn't appreciate her blithe spirit. She even talks with Archie about the fact that she still has feelings for Leo, even though her rebound crush Perry is a genuinely NiceGuy who appreciates her]]. The only hint that Leo gets that Stargirl has forgiven him is [[spoiler:receiving a gift fifteen years later]], when presumably they have both grown up and matured, and it may not have been from her.

to:

* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHerBack: WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Justified in both books and explored; Stargirl has to admit that [[spoiler:Leo was a terrible boyfriend who dumped her to conform to peer pressure, and he didn't appreciate her blithe spirit. She even talks with Archie about the fact that she still has feelings for Leo, even though her rebound crush Perry is a genuinely NiceGuy who appreciates her]]. The only hint that Leo gets that Stargirl has forgiven him is [[spoiler:receiving a gift fifteen years later]], when presumably they have both grown up and matured, and it may not have been from her. As is befitting Jerry Spinelli, both endings remain ambiguous if Leo can truly earn Stargirl's forgiveness.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeThemBack: Justified in both books and explored; Stargirl has to admit that [[spoiler:Leo was a terrible boyfriend who dumped her to conform to peer pressure, and he didn't appreciate her blithe spirit. She even talks with Archie about the fact that she still has feelings for Leo, even though her rebound crush Perry is a genuinely NiceGuy who appreciates her]]. The only hint that Leo gets that Stargirl has forgiven him is [[spoiler:receiving a gift fifteen years later]], when presumably they have both grown up and matured, and it may not have been from her.

to:

* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeThemBack: WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHerBack: Justified in both books and explored; Stargirl has to admit that [[spoiler:Leo was a terrible boyfriend who dumped her to conform to peer pressure, and he didn't appreciate her blithe spirit. She even talks with Archie about the fact that she still has feelings for Leo, even though her rebound crush Perry is a genuinely NiceGuy who appreciates her]]. The only hint that Leo gets that Stargirl has forgiven him is [[spoiler:receiving a gift fifteen years later]], when presumably they have both grown up and matured, and it may not have been from her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dori Dilson, as the only person in the school, even including Leo, to not turn on Stargirl, is not given nearly as much focus as she could have been. In the sequel, she's only mentioned a handful of times. In the movie, she's a glorified extra and is never named onscreen.

to:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dori Dilson, as the only person in the school, even including Leo, to not turn on Stargirl, is not given nearly as much focus as she could have been. In the sequel, she's only mentioned a handful of times. In the movie, she's a glorified extra and is never named onscreen.onscreen.
* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeThemBack: Justified in both books and explored; Stargirl has to admit that [[spoiler:Leo was a terrible boyfriend who dumped her to conform to peer pressure, and he didn't appreciate her blithe spirit. She even talks with Archie about the fact that she still has feelings for Leo, even though her rebound crush Perry is a genuinely NiceGuy who appreciates her]]. The only hint that Leo gets that Stargirl has forgiven him is [[spoiler:receiving a gift fifteen years later]], when presumably they have both grown up and matured, and it may not have been from her.

Added: 6

Changed: 66

Removed: 69

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


!!Book



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dori Dilson, as the only person in the school, even including Leo, to not turn on Stargirl, is not given nearly as much focus as she could have been. In the sequel, she's only mentioned a handful of times.
** In the movie, she's a glorified extra and is never named onscreen.

to:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dori Dilson, as the only person in the school, even including Leo, to not turn on Stargirl, is not given nearly as much focus as she could have been. In the sequel, she's only mentioned a handful of times. \n** In the movie, she's a glorified extra and is never named onscreen.

Added: 69

Changed: 1

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Definitely a waste.


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dori Dilson, as the only person in the school, even including Leo, to not turn on Stargirl, is not given nearly as much focus as she could have been. In the sequel, she's only mentioned a handful of times.

to:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dori Dilson, as the only person in the school, even including Leo, to not turn on Stargirl, is not given nearly as much focus as she could have been. In the sequel, she's only mentioned a handful of times.
** In the movie, she's a glorified extra and is never named onscreen.

Added: 308

Changed: 126

Removed: 33

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Stargirl leading the students of Mica High in the bunny hop dance number at the climax of the Ocotillo Ball.
* IronWoobie: Stargirl. Good God.

to:

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Stargirl leading the students of Mica High in the bunny hop dance number at the climax of the Ocotillo Ball.
*
%%* IronWoobie: Stargirl. Good God.


Added DiffLines:

%%* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Stargirl leading the students of Mica High in the bunny hop dance number at the climax of the Ocotillo Ball.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Leo a basically good guy who made a mistake and deserves a second chance, or is he spineless DesignatedHero who it would be best if Stargirl never saw again?

to:

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Leo a basically good guy who made a mistake and deserves a second chance, or is he a spineless DesignatedHero who it would be best if Stargirl never saw again?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Leo a basically good guy who made a mistake and deserves a second chance, or is he spineless DesignatedHero who it would be best if Stargirl never saw again?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


-->[[spoiler:"There was no confetti, no kazoos. Nothing cheered, not even a mockingbird."]]

to:

-->[[spoiler:"There was no confetti, no kazoos. Nothing cheered, not even a mockingbird."]]"]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dori Dilson, as the only person in the school, even including Leo, to not turn on Stargirl, is not given nearly as much focus as she could have been. In the sequel, she's only mentioned a handful of times.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TearJerker: Several, but the ultimate moment has to be when Stargirl, after changing her behavior, her clothes and even her name to fit in with the other students, wins the grand prize at the speaking competition and [[spoiler:returns to Mica High only to find herself [[YankTheDogsChain still shunned by all,]] when nobody but Dori Dilson shows up at what was supposed to be her grand homecoming parade.]]

to:

* TearJerker: Several, but the ultimate moment has to be when Stargirl, after changing her behavior, her clothes and even her name to fit in with the other students, wins the grand prize at the speaking competition and [[spoiler:returns [[spoiler:triumphantly returns to Mica High only to find herself that [[YankTheDogsChain everyone still shunned by all,]] hates her,]] when nobody but Dori Dilson shows and a few teachers show up at what was supposed to be her grand homecoming parade.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moved from the Main page.

Added DiffLines:

* FirstInstallmentWins: The sequel is not as popular as the first book, probably because the first book is common reading material for elementary and middle school.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


-->[[spoiler:"Nothing cheered, not even a mockingbird."]]

to:

-->[[spoiler:"Nothing -->[[spoiler:"There was no confetti, no kazoos. Nothing cheered, not even a mockingbird."]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* IronWoobie: Stargirl. Good God.

to:

* IronWoobie: Stargirl. Good God.God.
* TearJerker: Several, but the ultimate moment has to be when Stargirl, after changing her behavior, her clothes and even her name to fit in with the other students, wins the grand prize at the speaking competition and [[spoiler:returns to Mica High only to find herself [[YankTheDogsChain still shunned by all,]] when nobody but Dori Dilson shows up at what was supposed to be her grand homecoming parade.]]
-->[[spoiler:"Nothing cheered, not even a mockingbird."]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Stargirl leading the students of Mica High in the bunny hop dance number at the climax of the Ocotillo Ball.
* IronWoobie: Stargirl. Good God.

Top