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** In a way, the resolution of the the Kondalian-Urvanian conflict in ''Skylark Three'' is a callout of this too. While Seaton started out planning to aid the Kondalians to stop the Urvanians from destroying them, he finally ends the war by showing up with an overwhelmingly powerful spaceship and telling both sides that ''he'' is now "Overlord of the Green System" and that he will destroy whichever of the two species chooses to attack the other. Him threatening the Urvanians, who started the war, like this is par for the course in the ''Skylark'' series. What's remarkable is that he's threatening the same horrible retaliation on his ''friends,'' the Kondalians... because he's aware that they're violent jerks who might otherwise choose to restart the war and seek revenge if they thought they had an advantage.



** The Fenachrone start out with a major technological advantage in most areas, and seem quite happy to exterminate other species that don't share that advantage. The core plot of the novel boils down to Seaton and friends searching for technology powerful enough to overcome the Fenachrone... and then using it to do to the Fenachrone what the Fenachrone would have done to them.

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** The Fenachrone start out with a major technological advantage in most areas, and areas. And they seem quite happy to exterminate other species that don't share that advantage. The core plot of the novel boils down to Seaton and friends searching for technology powerful enough to overcome the Fenachrone... and then using it to do to the Fenachrone what the Fenachrone would have done to them.



** The knowledge that huge explosions could create mushroom clouds was already known before 1945, because of volcanic eruptions, and occasional major accidents in which hundreds or thousands of tons of ''chemical'' explosives blew up.

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** The knowledge fact that huge explosions could create mushroom clouds was already known before 1945, because of volcanic eruptions, eruptions and occasional major accidents in which hundreds or thousands of tons of ''chemical'' explosives blew up.
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** The Fenachrone start out with a major technological advantage in most areas, and seem quite happy to exterminate other species that don't share that advantage. The core plot of the novel boils down to Seaton and friends searching for technology powerful enough to overcome the Fenachrone... and then using it to do to the Fenachrone what the Fenachrone would have done to them.


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** The knowledge that huge explosions could create mushroom clouds was already known before 1945, because of volcanic eruptions, and occasional major accidents in which hundreds or thousands of tons of ''chemical'' explosives blew up.
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Explicit ahistorical Imperial Japan whitewashing & apologia. The Imperial Japanese government was an ethnofascist, genocidal IMPERIALIST (its in the name) regime that was the explicit aggressor. The Roosevelt administration had even given concessions to Japan such as food & medical aid, and promised to not get involved in their expansionism even as refugees from conquered nations & European colonies poured into American borders. This appeasement was not enough and consequentially lead to Japan eyeballing American colonies from Samoa to even the Alaskan Aleutians, and then taking action in Pearl Harbor. To characterize the Roosevelt Administration & Americans as the aggressors or instigators in the leadup in the is a gross & false misrepresentation of the historical record. Does the Japanese instigation justify American treatment of Japanese migrants to the US and civilians in their territories? No. But to pretend that the Japanese government at the time wasn't looking for excuses to invade American territories during the period is intellectually & morally dishonest in the extreme, especially when taking into account their behavior towards Thai, Chinese, Korean, Ainu, and Ryukyuan sovereignty, and the manufactured pretext they invented to not only invade European colonial possessions, but magnify the atrocities already being visited upon the indigenous populations of those colonies.


* HarsherInHindsight: TheFederation’s war against the Fenachrone. The latter are a bunch of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens malignantly expansionist]] RubberForeheadAliens planning to expand from their own single planet; Seaton and company object to their plans. So far, so good. Their reaction, however, is first to threaten and bully the Fenachrone with their own overwhelming might until they declare war on them in desperation, then -- when as defenders, the Fenachrone hold the moral high ground -- [[EarthShatteringKaboom nuke their planet]] and launch a successful attempt to [[FinalSolution exterminate the refugees completely]]. While it’s clear the Fenachrone ''are'' aggressive militarists and potentially genocidal themselves, they also aren't really a threat to the vastly superior technology and numbers of the good guys at this point, and indeed have to display a fair amount of VillainousValor merely in order to survive the attempted genocide, [[spoiler:and they ultimately fail]]. Besides the questions of DisproportionateRetribution and general ValuesDissonance, to modern audiences the whole affair also reads a lot like the [[EagleLand Roosevelt administration’s]] historical warmongering and bullying of UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan, which ultimately lead to Pearl Harbor, the Pacific War and Hiroshima.

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* HarsherInHindsight: TheFederation’s war against the Fenachrone. The latter are a bunch of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens malignantly expansionist]] RubberForeheadAliens planning to expand from their own single planet; Seaton and company object to their plans. So far, so good. Their reaction, however, is first to threaten and bully the Fenachrone with their own overwhelming might until they declare war on them in desperation, then -- when as defenders, the Fenachrone hold the moral high ground -- [[EarthShatteringKaboom nuke their planet]] and launch a successful attempt to [[FinalSolution exterminate the refugees completely]]. While it’s clear the Fenachrone ''are'' aggressive militarists and potentially genocidal themselves, they also aren't really a threat to the vastly superior technology and numbers of the good guys at this point, and indeed have to display a fair amount of VillainousValor merely in order to survive the attempted genocide, [[spoiler:and they ultimately fail]]. Besides the questions of DisproportionateRetribution and general ValuesDissonance, to modern audiences the whole affair also reads a lot like the [[EagleLand Roosevelt administration’s]] historical warmongering and bullying carte-blanche persecution of UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan, which ultimately lead to Pearl Harbor, the Pacific War and Hiroshima.American Japanaese citizens & civilians already victimized by UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan.
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** The Fenachrone have mapped out the entire galaxy. Furthermore, they could invade a given planet at any time they want.

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** The Fenachrone have mapped out the entire galaxy.galaxy in full video. Furthermore, they could invade a given planet at any time they want.
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** On the other hand, the conflict started because a Fenachrone scout ship made an unprovoked attack on the Skylark, and when the Skylark successfully defended itself, the ship sent the Fenachrone rulers a recommendation that Earth be entirely destroyed to remove it as a threat. Clearly their own potential for genocide was more than a vague possibility.
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* MagnificentBastard: [=DuQuesne=].
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** One of the main characters is named [[{{Series/Frasier}} Martin Crane]].
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* Fairforitsday: The idea of an Asian manservant seems cliche and racist these days, but Seaton's "Jap" was actually pretty capable at hand-to-hand combat, gunplay, and security and repeatedly manages to fend off terrestrial bad guys. He actively defies their racist stereotype that he'll take a bribe, even when they offer him 50 grand (more than half a million in 2018 money).

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* Fairforitsday: FairForItsDay: The idea of an Asian manservant seems cliche and racist these days, but Seaton's "Jap" was actually pretty capable at hand-to-hand combat, gunplay, and security and repeatedly manages to fend off terrestrial bad guys. He actively defies their racist stereotype that he'll take a bribe, even when they offer him 50 grand (more than half a million in 2018 money).
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* Fairforitsday: The idea of an Asian manservant seems cliche and racist these days, but Seaton's "Jap" was actually pretty capable at hand-to-hand combat, gunplay, and security and repeatedly manages to fend off terrestrial bad guys. He actively defies their racist stereotype that he'll take a bribe, even when they offer him 50 grand (more than half a million in 2018 money).
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The book was written about the same time as Schwarzschild was developing his theory of black holes.


* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Are Seaton and company the incorruptible beacons of good and ideal specimens of humanity that the book portrays them as, or are they impetuous, [[ManChild Man-Children]] who [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality judge entire species based on first impressions]] and who accidentally stumbled upon something that the human race can by no means be trusted with, as shown by the fact that they have no qualms about killing their enemies to the last man, woman, and child, even when the latter try to retreat.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Are Seaton and company the incorruptible beacons of good and ideal specimens of humanity that the book portrays them as, or are they impetuous, impetuous [[ManChild Man-Children]] who [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality judge entire species based on first impressions]] and who accidentally stumbled upon something that the human race can by no means be trusted with, as shown by the fact that they have no qualms about killing their enemies to the last man, woman, and child, even when the latter try to retreat.



** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists. In fact Dunark eventually [[spoiler:decides not to share the knowledge Seaton gained from the Norlaminians with the rest of his species, since he knows that they can't be trusted with it]].

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** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists. In fact Dunark eventually [[spoiler:decides not to share the knowledge Seaton gained from the Norlaminians with the rest of his species, since he knows that they can't can’t be trusted with it]].



* HarsherInHindsight: TheFederation's war against the Fenachrone. The latter are a bunch of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens malignantly expansionist]] RubberForeheadAliens planning to expand from their own single planet; Seaton and company object to their plans. So far, so good. Their reaction, however, is first to threaten and bully the Fenachrone with their own overwhelming might until they declare war on them in desperation, then -- When as defenders, they hold the moral high ground -- [[EarthShatteringKaboom nuke their planet]] and launch a near-successful attempt to [[FinalSolution exterminate the refugees completely]]. While it's clear the Fenachrone ''are'' aggressive militarists and potentially genocidal themselves, they also aren't really a threat to the vastly superior technology and numbers of the good guys at this point, and indeed have to display a fair amount of VillainousValor merely in order to survive the attempted genocide. Besides the questions of DisproportionateRetribution and general ValuesDissonance, to modern audiences the whole affair also reads a lot like the [[EagleLand Roosevelt administration's]] historical warmongering and bullying of UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan, which ultimately lead to Pearl Harbor, the Pacific War and Hiroshima.

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* HarsherInHindsight: TheFederation's TheFederation’s war against the Fenachrone. The latter are a bunch of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens malignantly expansionist]] RubberForeheadAliens planning to expand from their own single planet; Seaton and company object to their plans. So far, so good. Their reaction, however, is first to threaten and bully the Fenachrone with their own overwhelming might until they declare war on them in desperation, then -- When when as defenders, they the Fenachrone hold the moral high ground -- [[EarthShatteringKaboom nuke their planet]] and launch a near-successful successful attempt to [[FinalSolution exterminate the refugees completely]]. While it's it’s clear the Fenachrone ''are'' aggressive militarists and potentially genocidal themselves, they also aren't really a threat to the vastly superior technology and numbers of the good guys at this point, and indeed have to display a fair amount of VillainousValor merely in order to survive the attempted genocide. genocide, [[spoiler:and they ultimately fail]]. Besides the questions of DisproportionateRetribution and general ValuesDissonance, to modern audiences the whole affair also reads a lot like the [[EagleLand Roosevelt administration's]] administration’s]] historical warmongering and bullying of UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan, which ultimately lead to Pearl Harbor, the Pacific War and Hiroshima.



** When the Norlaminians give Seaton knowledge of the inner workings of the universe, it includes the [[ScienceMarchesOn "fact"]] that subatomic particles are made up of smaller particles, which are made up of smaller particles, and so on ''ad infinitum''. About six years later, the classic short story "Literature/HeWhoShrank" would completely deconstruct this idea.

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** When the Norlaminians give Seaton knowledge of the inner workings of the universe, it includes the [[ScienceMarchesOn "fact"]] “fact”]] that subatomic particles are made up of smaller particles, which are made up of smaller particles, and so on ''ad infinitum''. About six years later, the classic short story "Literature/HeWhoShrank" “Literature/HeWhoShrank” would completely deconstruct this idea.go the ''reductio ad absurdum'' route with the trope (which had already been disproved by science).



* OlderThanTheyThink: A "dark star", essentially a black hole, and mushroom clouds produced by the atomic/total conversion of explosive shells. Both in ''The Skylark of Space'', published in '''1928'''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: A "dark star", “dark star”, essentially a black hole, hole,[[note]]though the modern relativistic version was first proposed in 1915 by Schwarzschild, and a Newtonian dark star was theorized by Michell as early as '''1793'''[[/note]] and mushroom clouds produced by the atomic/total conversion of explosive shells. Both in ''The Skylark of Space'', published in '''1928'''.
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* HarsherInHindsight: TheFederation's war against the Fenachrone. The latter are a bunch of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens malignantly expansionist]] RubberForeheadAliens planning to expand from their own single planet; Seaton and company object to their plans. So far, so good. Their reaction, however, is first to threaten and bully the Fenachrone with their own overwhelming might until they declare war on them in desperation, then -- When as defenders, they hold the moral high ground -- [[EarthShatteringKaboom nuke their planet]] and launch a near-successful attempt to [[FinalSolution exterminate the refugees completely]]. While it's clear the Fenachrone ''are'' aggressive militarists and potentially genocidal themselves, they also aren't really a threat to the vastly superior technology and numbers of the good guys at this point, and indeed have to display a fair amount of VillainousValor merely in order to survive the attempted genocide. Besides the questions of DisproportionateRetribution and general ValuesDissonance, to modern audiences the whole affair also reads a lot like the [[EagleLand Roosevelt administration's]] historical warmongering and bullying of ImperialJapan, which ultimately lead to Pearl Harbor, the Pacific War and Hiroshima.

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* HarsherInHindsight: TheFederation's war against the Fenachrone. The latter are a bunch of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens malignantly expansionist]] RubberForeheadAliens planning to expand from their own single planet; Seaton and company object to their plans. So far, so good. Their reaction, however, is first to threaten and bully the Fenachrone with their own overwhelming might until they declare war on them in desperation, then -- When as defenders, they hold the moral high ground -- [[EarthShatteringKaboom nuke their planet]] and launch a near-successful attempt to [[FinalSolution exterminate the refugees completely]]. While it's clear the Fenachrone ''are'' aggressive militarists and potentially genocidal themselves, they also aren't really a threat to the vastly superior technology and numbers of the good guys at this point, and indeed have to display a fair amount of VillainousValor merely in order to survive the attempted genocide. Besides the questions of DisproportionateRetribution and general ValuesDissonance, to modern audiences the whole affair also reads a lot like the [[EagleLand Roosevelt administration's]] historical warmongering and bullying of ImperialJapan, UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan, which ultimately lead to Pearl Harbor, the Pacific War and Hiroshima.



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* CanonSue: Seaton is this -- his interests, abilities and values are all either those of Smith himself greatly exaggerated, or ideals Smith held. (Indeed, all four of the main "good" Earth-human characters are Sued versions of real people -- Dorothy Vaneman of Smith's wife, and the Cranes of his friends Dr Carl Garby and Lee Garby, Carl's wife who helped Smith with the "romantic" aspects of the first book.) His only acknowledged character flaw is his impulsiveness, which [[InformedFlaw never actually causes any problems]].
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** The Fenachrone have mapped out the entire galaxy. Furthermore, they could invade a given planet at any time they want.
** By the end of ''Skylark Three'', the heroes can project themselves anywhere, can destroy whole planets with ease, and can reconstruct a perfect record of what anyone did at any point in the past. [[BigBrotherIsWatchingYou Just imagine that kind of power in the hands of a totalitarian state.]]
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* CanonSue: Seaton is this -- his interests, abilities and values are all either those of Smith himself greatly exaggerated, or ideals Smith held. (Indeed, all four of the main "good" Earth-human characters are Sued versions of real people -- Dorothy Vaneman of Smith's wife, and the Cranes of his friends Dr Carl Garby and Lee Garby, Carl's wife who helped Smith with the "romantic" aspects of the first book.)

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Are Seaton and company the incorruptible beacons of good and ideal specimens of humanity that the book portrays them as, or are they impetuous, [[ManChild Man-Children]] who [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality judge entire species based on first impressions]] and who accidentally stumbled upon something that the human race can by no means be trusted with, as shown by the fact that they have no qualms about killing their enemies to the last man, woman, and child, even when the latter try to retreat.
* CanonSue: Seaton is this -- his interests, abilities and values are all either those of Smith himself greatly exaggerated, or ideals Smith held. (Indeed, all four of the main "good" Earth-human characters are Sued versions of real people -- Dorothy Vaneman of Smith's wife, and the Cranes of his friends Dr Carl Garby and Lee Garby, Carl's wife who helped Smith with the "romantic" aspects of the first book.)) His only acknowledged character flaw is his impulsiveness, which [[InformedFlaw never actually causes any problems]].



** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists.

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** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists. In fact Dunark eventually [[spoiler:decides not to share the knowledge Seaton gained from the Norlaminians with the rest of his species, since he knows that they can't be trusted with it]].
* EvilIsCool: [=DuQuesne=]. Come on, admit it.



* HilariousInHindsight: Nowadays, there is a real restaurant chain called Perkins. Considering how the character [[TheBrute was portrayed in the book]], it is potentially FridgeHorror.

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Nowadays, there is a real restaurant chain called Perkins. Considering how the character [[TheBrute was portrayed in the book]], it is potentially FridgeHorror.FridgeHorror.
** When the Norlaminians give Seaton knowledge of the inner workings of the universe, it includes the [[ScienceMarchesOn "fact"]] that subatomic particles are made up of smaller particles, which are made up of smaller particles, and so on ''ad infinitum''. About six years later, the classic short story "Literature/HeWhoShrank" would completely deconstruct this idea.
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** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists.

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** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[JohnCarterOfMars [[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists.
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* HarsherInHindsight: TheFederation's war against the Fenachrone. The latter are a bunch of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens malignantly expansionist]] RubberForeheadAliens planning to expand from their own single planet; Seaton and company object to their plans. So far, so good. Their reaction, however, is first to threaten and bully the Fenachrone with their own overwhelming might until they declare war on them in desperation, then -- When as defenders, they hold the moral high ground -- [[EarthShatteringKaboom nuke their planet]] and launch a near-successful attempt to [[FinalSolution exterminate the refugees completely]]. While it's clear the Fenachrone ''are'' aggressive militarists and potentially genocidal themselves, they also aren't really a threat to the vastly superior technology and numbers of the good guys at this point, and indeed have to display a fair amount of VillainousValor merely in order to survive the attempted genocide. Besides the questions of DisproportionateRetribution and general ValuesDissonance, to modern audiences the whole affair also reads a lot like the [[EagleLand Roosevelt administration's]] historical warmongering and bullying of ImperialJapan, which ultimately lead to Pearl Harbor, the Pacific War and Hiroshima.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Nowadays, there is a restaurant chain called Perkins. Considering how the character [[TheBrute was portrayed in the book]], it is potentially FridgeHorror.

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* CanonSue: Seaton is this -- his interests, abilities and values are all either those of Smith himself greatly exaggerated, or ideals Smith held. (Indeed, all four of the main "good" Earth-human characters are Sued versions of real people -- Dorothy Vaneman of Smith's wife, and the Cranes of his friends Dr Carl Garby and Lee Garby, Carl's wife who helped Smith with the "romantic" aspects of the first book.)



** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists.

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** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists. protagonists.
* HilariousInHindsight: Nowadays, there is a restaurant chain called Perkins. Considering how the character [[TheBrute was portrayed in the book]], it is potentially FridgeHorror.
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** Unlike the Mardonalians, and the villains generally in the series, the Kondalians are not [[AbsoluteXenophobe Absolute Xenophobes]], but willing to co-operate peacefully with other planets. That said, they ''are'' typically portrayed as a species of ProudWarriorRaceGuys, with a strong whiff of [[JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]. They're ''very flawed'' good guys, and they do occasionally get called out on their warmongering by the human protagonists.
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* DesignatedHero: The Kondalians have practically no traits that would be considered sympathetic by modern readers. They have no concept of democracy, race-based slavery is unquestioned, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything they've been at war for 6000 years over ideology]], are {{Social Darwinist}}s who believe themselves a SuperiorSpecies, and admit to having no concept of mercy. All in all, they are no better than the Mardonalians; the only reason they are considered good is because [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality they were nice to the heroes]].
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* MagnificentBastard: [=DuQuesne=].

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