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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: When Shrek snaps at Fiona and says he wishes he had never saved her from the Dragon's Keep, Fiona is meant to be viewed as sympathetic, except she doesn't come off any better than Shrek since she brushes off his feelings when the guests at the babies' party drive Shrek off the deep end, getting mad at Shrek and accusing him of being ungrateful even though it was clearly shown that Shrek ''is'' grateful for what he has and was simply [[RageBreakingPoint so aggravated by everyone's demanding behavior towards him that he just couldn't take it anymore]]. Fiona instead comes off as insensitive towards Shrek for refusing to understand Shrek's problem and also refusing to sympathize with him for what everyone put him through. Only until we go to the alternate universe do we actually start to feel bad for her.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: When Fiona was supposed to be seen as justifiably pinning all the blame on Shrek snaps when things go awry at their kids first birthday party. Many however felt Fiona and says he wishes he had never saved her from the Dragon's Keep, Fiona is meant to be viewed as sympathetic, except she doesn't come off any better than Shrek since she brushes off his feelings when the guests at the babies' party drive Shrek off the deep end, getting mad at was unfairly treating Shrek and accusing him of being ungrateful even though it was clearly shown that Shrek ''is'' grateful for what he has contributed to his actions by ignoring or brushing off his growing stresses and was simply frustration over the movie until [[RageBreakingPoint so aggravated by everyone's demanding behavior towards him that he just couldn't take it anymore]]. Fiona instead comes off as insensitive towards Shrek for refusing to understand Shrek's problem and also refusing to sympathize with him for what everyone put him through. Only until we go to the alternate universe do we actually start to feel bad for her. hit his limit]].
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** Also, in the French dub, when Shrek is captured by the witches, some of the songs that Donkey sings are different as well. The one that the witches sing along to is "Ma liberté de penser".

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** Also, in the French dub, when Shrek is captured by the witches, some of the songs that Donkey sings are different as well. The one that the witches sing along to is ones he sings are "Dès que le vent soufflera" by Renaud, "Tout" by Lara Fabian, and "Ma liberté de penser".penser" by Florent Pagny.
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* {{Woolseyism}}: In the Norwegian dub of the films, Shrek's species was changed from being an ogre to a troll instead, as there is no equivalent to the word "ogre" in Norwegian. In English, Rumpelstiltskin looks at a creature (a Shrek imposter) and says "That's not even an ogre, that is a troll." The Norwegian dub cleverly gets around this by saying "That's not even a troll, that is a jotne.", a "jotne" being (among other creatures) a different kind of troll in Nordic mythology.

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* {{Woolseyism}}: In the Norwegian dub of the films, Shrek's species was changed from being an ogre to a troll instead, as there is no equivalent to the word "ogre" in Norwegian. In English, Rumpelstiltskin looks at a creature (a Shrek imposter) and says "That's not even an ogre, that is a troll." The Norwegian dub cleverly gets around this by saying "That's not even a troll, that is a jotne.", a "jotne" being (among other creatures) a different kind of troll in Nordic mythology.mythology.
** Also, in the French dub, when Shrek is captured by the witches, some of the songs that Donkey sings are different as well. The one that the witches sing along to is "Ma liberté de penser".
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--->'''Shrek:''' I ''used'' to be an ogre, now I'm just a jolly green joke!

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--->'''Shrek:''' I ''used'' to be an ogre, now ogre--now I'm just a jolly green joke!
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shrek at the beginning of the movie is painted as ungrateful due to his growing dislike as a celebrity as well as his outburst at the babies' birthday party that he wishes he could go back to his old life before he met Fiona. It's fair to agree that Shrek was really mean when he yelled at Fiona that his life was much better before rescuing her from the Dragon's Keep, a thing he later totally regrets. However, anyone should realize that his act of punching the cake during the party was partly because most of the guests had irritated him enough to the point of driving him off the deep end. The ones who mostly annoyed him where Butterpants and his dad, requesting him to do his roar though Shrek had said that he only does it when he's angry and that they are on his kids' party, and coupled with Donkey licking the cake for the sake of it (with Shrek being blamed for that without allowing him to explain himself), Mabel mockingly reminding Shrek that he forgot the candles, the Wolf popping a balloon on Shrek's face, the Three Little Piggs eating the cake despite knowing that it's for Shrek's babies and Pinocchio running around Shrek loudly without any apparent reason, Shrek understandably was ''fed up'' with all things revolving around him that he just couldn't take it anymore and finally snapped, which causes Fiona to get mad at only Shrek as the guests [[KarmaHoudini get off scot-free for being the cause to Shrek's outburst]].
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: One of the most common criticisms. While it takes a different approach with the ItsAWonderfulPlot and expands on the universe and characters, it's the fourth movie in a row where the villain's plot is to make himself King, and once again creates drama by pitting Shrek's ogre nature against the more sympathetic aspects of his personality and by having the outcome hinge on TrueLovesKiss.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ItsTheSameNowItSucks: One of the most common criticisms. While it takes a different approach with the ItsAWonderfulPlot and expands on the universe and characters, it's the fourth movie in a row where the villain's plot is to make himself King, and once again creates drama by pitting Shrek's ogre nature against the more sympathetic aspects of his personality and by having the outcome hinge on TrueLovesKiss.



* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: There were some Shrek fans who were skeptical about [[spoiler:Shrek dying at the near end.]] Sure enough, [[spoiler:Shrek returns to the normal universe alive and well after he and Fiona kiss to reverse the contract.]]

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: There were some Shrek fans who were skeptical about [[spoiler:Shrek dying at the near end.]] end]]. Sure enough, [[spoiler:Shrek returns to the normal universe alive and well after he and Fiona kiss to reverse the contract.]]



* MemeticMutation: See the franchise's [[Memes/{{Shrek}} page.]]

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* MemeticMutation: See the franchise's [[Memes/{{Shrek}} page.]]page]].
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* KarmicOverkill: [[spoiler:Rumpelstiltskin when Fiona kills his pet goose, given he'd already been imprisoned for his crimes and caring for it was his one redeeming trait.]]
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: There were some Shrek fans who were skeptical about [[spoiler:Shrek dying at the near end.]] Sure enough, [[spoiler: Shrek returns to the normal universe alive and well after he and Fiona kiss to reverse the contract.]]

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* KarmicOverkill: [[spoiler:Rumpelstiltskin when Fiona kills his pet goose, Fifi, given he'd already been imprisoned for his crimes and caring for it her was [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes his one redeeming trait.trait]]; he even has a look of despair when Fifi is blown up.]]
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: There were some Shrek fans who were skeptical about [[spoiler:Shrek dying at the near end.]] Sure enough, [[spoiler: Shrek [[spoiler:Shrek returns to the normal universe alive and well after he and Fiona kiss to reverse the contract.]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: These characters mentioned below were actually supposed to return in the film, but they got excluded at the last minute.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: These characters mentioned below were actually supposed to return in the film, but they got excluded at the last minute. their scenes were cut during production, mostly due to time.



** And what happened to the Fairy Godmother and Prince Charming? This is rectified in the video game, however.

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** And what happened to the Fairy Godmother and Prince Charming? This The former case is rectified in the video game, however. however, in which the Fairy Godmother is shown to be queen of Far Far Away for a day.
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** Artie's fate is also never touched upon, due to Justin Timberlake’s scheduling conflict.
** The movie also never shows what Fiona's human form looks like in the new timeline aside from a flashback.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A major criticism is that the whole alternate universe setting is not as thoroughly explored as it potentially could have been, mostly thanks to the short runtime the movie has. We also never see the aftermath of Shrek correcting the timeline, aside from Rumpelstiltskin's arrest in the ending -- does Shrek feel any remorse or concern for possibly erasing all of his ogre friends from the alternate universe? They do appear at the dance party ending and in two Christmas shorts after the film, but how are they there? And how does Shrek still know them?

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** Artie's fate is also never touched upon, due to Justin Timberlake’s Creator/JustinTimberlake’s scheduling conflict.
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** The Given Fiona's alternate self only appears in the night, the movie also never shows what Fiona's her human form looks like in the new timeline aside from a flashback.timeline.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A major criticism is that the whole alternate universe setting is not as thoroughly explored as it potentially could have been, mostly thanks to the short runtime the movie has. We also never see the aftermath of Shrek correcting the timeline, aside from Rumpelstiltskin's arrest in the ending -- does Shrek feel any remorse or concern for possibly erasing all of his ogre friends from the alternate universe? They do appear at the dance party ending and in two Christmas shorts after the film, but it's unclear how are they're still in the main timeline or how they there? And how does Shrek still know them?Shrek, given he doesn't appear to know them when he first meets them.
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* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: The reason why the film was made was so that [=DreamWorks=] Animation could prevent the Shrek franchise from decaying any further after the middling reception to Shrek the Third. Even the title was changed from Shrek Goes Fourth to Shrek Forever After to cement the idea that it was a GrandFinale — and while reactions to the film were mixed, it's usually considered better than the third film, and a fitting send-off to the characters. Since then, the only new entries have been the Puss in Boots spin-off films and their associated SequelSeries made for Netflix. A ContinuityReboot was announced, but seems to have been quietly canceled; Puss in Boots: The Last Wish presents itself as a direct sequel to the original Shrek films and ends on a SequelHook that suggests [=DreamWorks=] intends to continue the series after all.
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* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: The reason why the film was made was so that [=DreamWorks=] Animation could prevent the Shrek franchise from decaying any further after the middling reception to Shrek the Third. Even the title was changed from Shrek Goes Fourth to Shrek Forever After to cement the idea that it was a GrandFinale — and while reactions to the film were mixed, it's usually considered better than the third film, and a fitting send-off to the characters. Since then, the only new entries have been the Puss in Boots spin-off films and their associated SequelSeries made for Netflix. A ContinuityReboot was announced, but seems to have been quietly canceled; Puss in Boots: The Last Wish presents itself as a direct sequel to the original Shrek films and ends on a SequelHook that suggests [=DreamWorks=] intends to continue the series after all.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: One of the most common criticisms. While it takes a different approach with the ItsAWonderfulPlot and expands on the universe and characters, it's the fourth movie in a row where the villain's plot is to make himself King, and once again creates drama by pitting Shrek's ogre nature against the more sympathetic aspects of his personality and by having the outcome hinge on TrueLovesKiss.



* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: One of the most common criticisms. While it takes a different approach with the ItsAWonderfulPlot and expands on the universe and characters, it's the fourth movie in a row where the villain's plot is to make himself King, and once again creates drama by pitting Shrek's ogre nature against the more sympathetic aspects of his personality and by having the outcome hinge on TrueLovesKiss.
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: One of the most common criticisms. While it takes a different approach with the ItsAWonderfulPlot and expands on the universe and characters, it's the fourth movie in a row where the villain's plot is to make himself King, and once again creates drama by pitting Shrek's ogre nature against the more sympathetic aspects of his personality and having the outcome hinge on TrueLovesKiss.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: One of the most common criticisms. While it takes a different approach with the ItsAWonderfulPlot and expands on the universe and characters, it's the fourth movie in a row where the villain's plot is to make himself King, and once again creates drama by pitting Shrek's ogre nature against the more sympathetic aspects of his personality and by having the outcome hinge on TrueLovesKiss.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: One of the most common criticisms. While it takes a different approach with the ItsAWonderfulPlot and expands on the universe and characters, it's the fourth movie in a row where the villain's plot is to make himself King, and once again creates drama by pitting Shrek's ogre nature against the more sympathetic aspects of his personality and having the outcome hinge on TrueLovesKiss.



* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus from fans is that while it's a watchable movie that improves on ''Shrek The Third'', it doesn't have enough of the magic or humor of the first two movies to be worthwhile.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus from fans is that while it's a watchable movie that improves on ''Shrek The Third'', an entertaining watch and an improvement over the third movie, it doesn't have enough of live up to the magic or humor of the first two movies to be worthwhile.two.
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* ContestedSequel: To some, it's a mild improvement on ''Shrek The Third'' but still not a very good movie. To others, it's a huge improvement with an interesting plot, tons of ContinuityPorn, presents the characters in fresh ways, and [[LoveToHate a great villain]], and indicative of Creator/DreamWorksAnimation's [[GrowingTheBeard beard-growing]], and to others it's worse than ''Shrek The Third'', completely abandoning the actual characters and a waste of time.

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* ContestedSequel: To some, it's a mild improvement on ''Shrek The Third'' but still not a very good movie. To others, it's a huge improvement with an interesting plot, tons of ContinuityPorn, presents the characters in fresh ways, and [[LoveToHate a great villain]], and indicative of Creator/DreamWorksAnimation's [[GrowingTheBeard beard-growing]], and to others it's even worse than ''Shrek The Third'', completely abandoning the actual characters and thus leading to a waste of time.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In this film, Puss in Boots is shown to have retired from adventuring in favor of becoming Fiona's largely overweight lapcat, which he clearly relishes. In ''Film/PussInBootsTheLastWish'', the titular character ends up briefly retiring in the main timeline as well, only this time [[HeroicBSOD it's far from voluntary]] due to the threat of Death hanging over him.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In this film, Puss in Boots is shown to have retired from adventuring in favor of becoming Fiona's largely overweight lapcat, which he clearly relishes. In ''Film/PussInBootsTheLastWish'', ''WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish'', the titular character ends up briefly retiring in the main timeline as well, only this time [[HeroicBSOD it's far from voluntary]] due to the threat of Death hanging over him.

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