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** The fact that Ashi's last words before disappearing are exposition rather than something like "I love you."
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** The fact that Ashi's last words before disappearing are exposition rather than something like "I love you."
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Again. Broken Base requires at least two sides. That's one sided criticism.
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** Even moreso, as the PyrrhicVictory in question doesn't make sense - if removing Future!Aku removes Ashi, then removing Ashi should undo Jack's victory over Aku to begin with - but it inexplicably doesn't. This creates a ton of TimeParadoxes (for example: undoing the Aku-ruled future means Jack will never meet Ashi, who provided him the means to return to the past - thus, Jack cannot return to the past), but the '''only''' effect of these paradoxes is Ashi getting [[RetGone removed from existence]].
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* AnticlimaxBoss: Past-Aku. Justified, as Aku did spend the entire series avoiding a straight fight with Jack, the ultimate warrior who wields the only weapon capable of killing him. When a much stronger and more experienced Jack finally slips back into the past and faces a much less powerful Aku who was already weakened, the deed is done before the villain even understands what went wrong.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: Past-Aku. Justified, as Aku did spend the entire series avoiding hinges on Jack being able to defeat Aku in a straight fight; it's part of the premise that Aku had to send Jack to the future just to escape their first fight with Jack, the ultimate warrior who wields the only weapon capable of killing him. alive. When a much stronger and more experienced Jack finally slips back into the past and faces a much less powerful and experienced Aku who was already weakened, weakened from fighting past!Jack, the deed is done before the villain even understands what went wrong.
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** Even moreso, as the PyrrhicVictory in question doesn't make sense - if removing Future!Aku removes Ashi, then removing Ashi should undo Jack's victory over Aku to begin with - but it inexplicably doesn't. This creates a ton of TimeParadoxes (for example: undoing the Aku-ruled future means Jack will never meet Ashi, who provided him the means to return to the past - thus, Jack cannot return to the past), but the '''only''' effect of these paradoxes is Ashi getting [[RetGone removed from existence]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The Scotsman doesn't get a lot of time to shine, and isn't treated as particularly special among the warriors assembled to assist Jack. To add insult to injury, he is likely unmade by destroying the future in which Aku rules the universe.
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* CatharsisFactor: Aku's reaction after he fails to stop Jack and Ashi from traveling to the past is this for the audience. In that moment, he knows he's '''boned''', and so do we.
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* CatharsisFactor: Aku's reaction after he fails to stop Jack and Ashi from traveling to the past is this for the audience. In At that moment, he knows he's '''boned''', and so do we.
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* CatharsisFactor: Aku's reaction after he fails to stop Jack and Ashi from traveling to the past is this for the audience. He knows he's '''boned''', and we know it too.
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* CatharsisFactor: Aku's reaction after he fails to stop Jack and Ashi from traveling to the past is this for the audience. He In that moment, he knows he's '''boned''', and we know it too.so do we.
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* CatharsisFactor: Aku's reaction after he [[spoiler:fails to stop Jack and Ashi from traveling to the past]] is this for the audience. He knows he's '''boned''', and we know it too.
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* CatharsisFactor: Aku's reaction after he [[spoiler:fails fails to stop Jack and Ashi from traveling to the past]] past is this for the audience. He knows he's '''boned''', and we know it too.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: Past Aku. Justified, as Aku did spend the entire series avoiding a straight fight with Jack, the ultimate warrior who wields the only weapon capable of killing him. When a much stronger and more experienced Jack finally slips back into the past and faces an much less experienced and powerful Aku who was already weakened, the deed is done before the villain even understands what went wrong.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: Past Aku.Past-Aku. Justified, as Aku did spend the entire series avoiding a straight fight with Jack, the ultimate warrior who wields the only weapon capable of killing him. When a much stronger and more experienced Jack finally slips back into the past and faces an a much less experienced and powerful Aku who was already weakened, the deed is done before the villain even understands what went wrong. wrong.
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* CrazyAwesome: The Scotsman (who's currently a ghost) arrives to the FinalBattle using celtic magic ghost bagpipes to form a bridge across the sky for his daughters, who are all riding giant deer. Oh, and said celtic magic ghost bagpipes can generate magic shockwaves powerful enough for ''Aku'' to feel it.
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* CatharsisFactor: Aku's reaction after he [[spoiler:fails to stop Jack and Ashi from traveling to the past]] is this for the audience. He knows he's '''boned''', and we know it too.
* CrazyAwesome: The Scotsman (who's currently a ghost) arrivesto at the FinalBattle using celtic magic ghost bagpipes to form a bridge across the sky for his daughters, who are all riding giant deer. Oh, and said celtic magic ghost bagpipes can generate magic shockwaves powerful enough for ''Aku'' to feel it.
* CrazyAwesome: The Scotsman (who's currently a ghost) arrives
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* CrazyAwesome: The Scotsman (who's currently a ghost) arrives to the FinalBattle using celtic magic ghost bagpipes to form a bridge across the sky for his daughters, who are all riding giant deer. Oh, and said celtic magic ghost bagpipes can general generate magic shockwaves powerful enough for ''Aku'' to feel it.
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* CrazyAwesome: The Scotsman (who's currently a ghost) arrives to the FinalBattle using celtic magic ghost bagpipes to form a bridge across the sky for his daughters, who are all riding giant deer. Oh, and said celtic magic ghost bagpipes can general magic shockwaves powerful enough for ''Aku'' to feel it.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: Past Aku. Justified, as Aku did spend the entire series avoiding a straight fight with Jack, the ultimate warrior who wields the only weapon capable of killing him. When Jack finally slips back into the past and faces an Aku who was already weakened, the deed is done before the villain even understands what went wrong.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: Past Aku. Justified, as Aku did spend the entire series avoiding a straight fight with Jack, the ultimate warrior who wields the only weapon capable of killing him. When a much stronger and more experienced Jack finally slips back into the past and faces an much less experienced and powerful Aku who was already weakened, the deed is done before the villain even understands what went wrong.
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Broken Base requires two sides.
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** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyrrhicVictory.
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** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyrrhicVictory.PyrrhicVictory while others think it fits the tone of the series.
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* BrokenBase: Fans are split over the fact that the episode was only 22 minutes like usual. Some saw it as [[ItsShortSoItSucks being too short]] to resolve all the remaining plot threads, while others felt that it was enough time to show off the FinalBattle.
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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
** Fans are split over the fact that the episode was only 22 minutes like usual. Some saw it as [[ItsShortSoItSucks being too short]] to resolve all the remaining plot threads, while others felt that it was enough time to show off the FinalBattle.
** Fans are split over the fact that the episode was only 22 minutes like usual. Some saw it as [[ItsShortSoItSucks being too short]] to resolve all the remaining plot threads, while others felt that it was enough time to show off the FinalBattle.
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Because Ashi's gone. Her disappearance signifies that Aku is never able to come back, as she could exist under different circumstances.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Yes, Jack defeated Past!Aku and sent him into the ground, but that was also how his father defeated Aku before, and who's to say Aku can't come back from that?
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* AnticlimaxBoss: Past Aku. Justified, as Aku did spend the entire series avoiding a straight fight with Jack, the ultimate warrior who wields the only weapon capable of killing him. When Jack finally slips back into the past and faces an Aku who was already weakened, the deed is done before the villain even understands what went wrong.
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** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyrrhicVictory.
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** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyrrhicVictory.PyrrhicVictory.
* EsotericHappyEnding: Yes, Jack defeated Past!Aku and sent him into the ground, but that was also how his father defeated Aku before, and who's to say Aku can't come back from that?
* EsotericHappyEnding: Yes, Jack defeated Past!Aku and sent him into the ground, but that was also how his father defeated Aku before, and who's to say Aku can't come back from that?
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** The fact that some fan favorite characters met their end here tore the fanbase when some didn't mind or were even rooting for them to go. [[spoiler:Ashi's death is by far the biggest one, as some people either enjoyed her character and felt sad to see her go or weren't too keen on her and felt better with the BittersweetEnding.]]
** [[spoiler:The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyrrhicVictory.]]
** [[spoiler:The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyrrhicVictory.]]
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** The fact that some fan favorite characters met their end here tore the fanbase when some didn't mind or were even rooting for them to go. [[spoiler:Ashi's Ashi's death is by far the biggest one, as some people either enjoyed her character and felt sad to see her go or weren't too keen on her and felt better with the BittersweetEnding.]]
BittersweetEnding. Others like the robots, however, don't receive as much lament, because they always were the designated fodder of the series.
**[[spoiler:The The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyrrhicVictory.]]
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** The [[spoiler:The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyrrhicVictory.]]
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** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyhrricVictory.
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** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PyhrricVictory.PyrrhicVictory.
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** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PhyrricVictory.
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* BrokenBase: Fans are split over the fact that the episode was only 22 minutes like usual. Some saw it as [[ItsShortSoItSucks being too short]] to resolve all the remaining plot threads, while others felt that it was enough time to show off the FinalBattle.
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* BrokenBase: Fans are split over the fact that the episode was only 22 minutes like usual. Some saw it as [[ItsShortSoItSucks being too short]] to resolve all the remaining plot threads, while others felt that it was enough time to show off the FinalBattle.FinalBattle.
** The fact that some fan favorite characters met their end here tore the fanbase when some didn't mind or were even rooting for them to go. [[spoiler:Ashi's death is by far the biggest one, as some people either enjoyed her character and felt sad to see her go or weren't too keen on her and felt better with the BittersweetEnding.]]
** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PhyrricVictory.
** The fact that some fan favorite characters met their end here tore the fanbase when some didn't mind or were even rooting for them to go. [[spoiler:Ashi's death is by far the biggest one, as some people either enjoyed her character and felt sad to see her go or weren't too keen on her and felt better with the BittersweetEnding.]]
** The BittersweetEnding gets this simply because viewers feel Jack deserved better than a PhyrricVictory.
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IMDB isn't a reliable source apparently.
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* BrokenBase: Ahead of the release of the episode, fans were split on the news of the episode being only 25 minutes in length[[note]]slightly longer than the average episode of the revival[[/note]]. Some saw it as [[ItsShortSoItSucks being too short]] to resolve all the remaining plot threads, while others felt that it was enough time to show off the FinalBattle. Now that the episode is out, fans are leaning more towards the latter.
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!! Pre-Release
* BrokenBase: Will the episode be longer than usual (one hour) to answer all the questions? Will it be the same duration (30 minutes)? Who will die? Not even a day after "C" aired and people are already split over if the episode should be an hour special as well as how it will be done.
!! Post-Release
* BrokenBase: Will the episode be longer than usual (one hour) to answer all the questions? Will it be the same duration (30 minutes)? Who will die? Not even a day after "C" aired and people are already split over if the episode should be an hour special as well as how it will be done.
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* BrokenBase: Will the episode be longer than usual (one hour) to answer all the questions? Will it be the same duration (30 minutes)? Who will die? Not even a day after ''C'' "C" aired and people are already split over if the episode should be an hour special as well as how it will be done.
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* BrokenBase: Will the episode be longer than usual to answer all the questions? Will it be the same duration? Who will die? Not even a day after ''C'' aired and people are already split over if the episode should be an hour special as well as how it will be done.
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* BrokenBase: Will the episode be longer than usual to answer all the questions? Will it be the same duration? Who will die? Not even a day after ''C'' aired and people are already split over if the episode should be an hour special as well as how it will be done.
