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** How Gabriela punished Sarita after finding out she was with Franco. She whipped her to the point she bled and while the rest of the family was horrified, nobody, not even the doctor that treated her, made any sort of follow up afterwards.
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** How Gabriela punished Sarita after finding out she was with Franco. She whipped her to the point she bled and while the rest of the family was horrified, nobody, not even the doctor that treated her, made any sort of follow up afterwards. This admittedly got an AuthorsSavingThrow in the second season/reunion show, where Gabriela attempting to do the same to Sarita's daughter causes Sarita to completely ''blow off her lid'' and stops it from happening.
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** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
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** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, other characters, there are several jokes about his [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
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* ValuesDissonance: Some of the things that happened in the series would be a big no no if they were portrayed nowadays. A lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas. To name a few:
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* ValuesDissonance: Some of the things that happened in the series would be a big no no if they were portrayed nowadays. A lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas. To name a few:
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* ValuesDissonance: Some of the things that happened in the series would be a big no no if they were portrayed nowadays. To name a few:
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* ValuesDissonance: Some of the things that happened in the series would be a big no no if they were portrayed nowadays. A lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas. To name a few:
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** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
* All in all, a lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas.
* All in all, a lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas.
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** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
* All in all, a lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas.cruel.
* All in all, a lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas.
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** The portrayal of a mental health institution that was viewed as a horrible place with lack of care, and even some of the characters made disparaging comments about the mental state of Doña Hortencia, after Ruth's uncanny resemblance to Libia drove Hortencia insane after seeing her, making her believe that she was Libia coming back from the dead.
** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
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** The portrayal of a mental health institution that was viewed as a horrible place with lack of care, and even some of the characters made disparaging comments about the mental state of Doña Hortencia, after Ruth's uncanny resemblance to Libia drove Hortencia insane after seeing her, making her believe insane. Coupled with that she is that in the background it was Libia coming back from the dead.
possible to hear screaming and other noises that would have been more apt for a torture scene rather than a top notch mental health institution.
** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming orcruel.cruel.
* All in all, a lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas.
** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or
* All in all, a lot of the dialogue and scenes would be subjected to harsh criticism if they were to be presented as is nowadays, even if many consider this one of the most emblematic telenovelas.
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** The fact While there's obviously a lot of shock from the revelation that Bernardo Elizondo had a mistress from his family, nobody really finds it disturbing that Bernardo Elizondo, a man that, Bernardo, while still healthy and strong, was clearly much, ''much'' older than 18 year old the barely 18-year-old Libia Reyes, who was also in a lower social class class, making the relationship unequal in many senses.
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** The portrayal of a mental health institution that was viewed as a horrible place with lack of care and even some of the characters made disparaging comments about the mental state of Doña Hortencia.
** The portrayal of a mental health institution that was viewed as a horrible place with lack of care and even some of the characters made disparaging comments about the mental state of Doña Hortencia.
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** The comments regarding Norma's rape from her ex-husband, Fernando, and even her mother that basically implied she was to blame and that she was lucky she was able to find someone willing to marry her after that traumatic event.
event. In fact, the story didn't dwell much into the rape besides those comments, despite the trauma from it being initially presented as one of the two reasons for Norma's lack of intimacy with Fernando (the other being Fernando being an obvious {{Jerkass}}), and it was pretty much dropped altogether after she began her relationshp with Juan; a pretty callous treatment of rape that wouldn't go unnoticed today.
** The portrayal of a mental health institution that was viewed as a horrible place with lack ofcare care, and even some of the characters made disparaging comments about the mental state of Doña Hortencia.
** The portrayal of a mental health institution that was viewed as a horrible place with lack of
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** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his homosexuality [[TransparentCloset not-overtly-stated-but-very-obvious homosexuality]] that are homophobic. In turn, with his overweight brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: While many people know ''Pasión de gavilanes'' spawned many remakes and adaptations, fewer know it was a [[TheRemake remake]] itself, of a Colombian telenovela called ''Las aguas mansas''.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: While many people know ''Pasión de gavilanes'' spawned many remakes [[TheRemake remakes]] and adaptations, fewer know it was a [[TheRemake remake]] remake itself, of a Colombian telenovela called ''Las aguas mansas''.
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** The fact that nobody really find finds it disturbing that Bernardo Elizondo, a man that, while still healthy and strong, was clearly much, ''much'' older than 18 year old Libia Reyes, who was also in a lower social class making the relationship unequal in many senses.
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* ValuesDissonance: Some of the things that happened in the series would be a big
** The fact that nobody really find it disturbing that Bernardo Elizondo, a man that, while still healthy and strong, was clearly much, ''much'' older than 18 year old Libia Reyes, who was also in a lower social class making the relationship unequal in many senses.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: While many people know ''Pasión de gavilanes'' spawned many remakes and adaptations, fewer know it was a [[TheRemake remake]] itself, of a Colombian telenovela called ''Las aguas mansas''.mansas''.
*ValuesDissonance: Some of the things that happened in the series would be a big No No if they were portrayed nowadays. To name a few:
** How Gabriela punished Sarita after finding out she was with Franco. She whipped her to the point she bled and while the rest of the family was horrified, nobody, not even the doctor that treated her, made any sort of follow up afterwards.
** The portrayal of a mental health institution that was viewed as a horrible place with lack of care and even some of the characters made disparaging comments about the mental state of Doña Hortencia.
** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his homosexuality that are homophobic. In turn, with his brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
*ValuesDissonance: Some of the things that happened in the series would be a big No No if they were portrayed nowadays. To name a few:
** How Gabriela punished Sarita after finding out she was with Franco. She whipped her to the point she bled and while the rest of the family was horrified, nobody, not even the doctor that treated her, made any sort of follow up afterwards.
** The portrayal of a mental health institution that was viewed as a horrible place with lack of care and even some of the characters made disparaging comments about the mental state of Doña Hortencia.
** Though Leandro is a strong character that is a close friend to many of the protagonists, there are several jokes about his homosexuality that are homophobic. In turn, with his brother Benito, a lot of people make several comments that are fat shaming or cruel.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: While many people know ''Pasión de Gavilanes'' gavilanes'' spawned many remakes and adaptations, fewer know it was a [[TheRemake remake]] itself, of a Colombian telenovela called ''Las aguas mansas''.
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