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* TheWoobie: Poor Thomas Ellison.
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* TheWoobie: Poor Thomas Ellison.Ellison.
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Kill Em All is no longer a trope
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Given what ended up happening to the mutineers on Pitcairn [[KillEmAll in the long run...]]
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Given what ended up happening to the mutineers on Pitcairn [[KillEmAll in the long run...]]
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* MomentOfAwesome: Bligh ''successfully'' navigating a voyage of over 36,000 miles to Timor with scant provisions. Asshole or not, that's a magnificent feat.
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* MomentOfAwesome: SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Bligh ''successfully'' navigating a voyage of over 36,000 miles to Timor with scant provisions. Asshole or not, that's a magnificent feat.
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* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a {{Jerkass}}, but his ordering a dead man to be flogged crosses the line.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Given what ended up happening to the mutineers on Pitcairn [[KillEmAll in the long run...]]
* MomentOfAwesome: Bligh ''successfully'' navigating a voyage of over 36,000 miles to Timor with scant provisions. Asshole or not, that's a magnificent feat.
* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a {{Jerkass}}, but his orderinga dead man the ill surgeon to be flogged dragged out with him dying as a result really crosses the line.line. Even Bligh seems to realize he went too far.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Christian can come off as this for sending men who were loyal to their captain to what would have been a lingering death if they failed. While Bligh was something of an AssholeVictim, his men didn't deserve the suffering they went through.
* TheWoobie: Poor Thomas Ellison.
* MomentOfAwesome: Bligh ''successfully'' navigating a voyage of over 36,000 miles to Timor with scant provisions. Asshole or not, that's a magnificent feat.
* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a {{Jerkass}}, but his ordering
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Christian can come off as this for sending men who were loyal to their captain to what would have been a lingering death if they failed. While Bligh was something of an AssholeVictim, his men didn't deserve the suffering they went through.
* TheWoobie: Poor Thomas Ellison.
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* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a JerkAss, but his ordering a dead man to be flogged crosses the line.
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* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a JerkAss, {{Jerkass}}, but his ordering a dead man to be flogged crosses the line.
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Moving to YMMV for The Bounty
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* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a JerkAss, but his ordering a dead man to be flogged crosses the line.
!! ''The Bounty'' (1984) Contains Examples Of:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: While Lieutenant (not Captain) Bligh can seem rather acid-tongued to his men, his bark is generally worse than his bite. He has some deserters flogged, while standard naval procedure at the time called for the death penalty. He proves his worth as a seaman by navigating the open launch from Tonga to Timor with one brief stop.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bligh successfully navigating [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Bountya.jpg all the way to Timor]], then nonchalantly reporting the mutiny the moment he arrives in port.
* ValuesDissonance: Bligh's discipline can seem very harsh to modern eyes, but he was fairly lenient by the standards of the time.
** Indeed, Bligh's biggest problem was that he was ''too nice a guy'' to be the captain of a ship in those days. He let discipline go to hell, and when he finally did try to crack down, it was too little, too late.
* {{Wangst}}: How much Bligh was a tyrant and how much Christian was a whiny emo-boy is open to debate.
!! ''The Bounty'' (1984) Contains Examples Of:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: While Lieutenant (not Captain) Bligh can seem rather acid-tongued to his men, his bark is generally worse than his bite. He has some deserters flogged, while standard naval procedure at the time called for the death penalty. He proves his worth as a seaman by navigating the open launch from Tonga to Timor with one brief stop.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bligh successfully navigating [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Bountya.jpg all the way to Timor]], then nonchalantly reporting the mutiny the moment he arrives in port.
* ValuesDissonance: Bligh's discipline can seem very harsh to modern eyes, but he was fairly lenient by the standards of the time.
** Indeed, Bligh's biggest problem was that he was ''too nice a guy'' to be the captain of a ship in those days. He let discipline go to hell, and when he finally did try to crack down, it was too little, too late.
* {{Wangst}}: How much Bligh was a tyrant and how much Christian was a whiny emo-boy is open to debate.
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* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a JerkAss, but his ordering a dead man to be flogged crosses the line.
!! ''The Bounty'' (1984) Contains Examples Of:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: While Lieutenant (not Captain) Bligh can seem rather acid-tongued to his men, his bark is generally worse than his bite. He has some deserters flogged, while standard naval procedure at the time called for the death penalty. He proves his worth as a seaman by navigating the open launch from Tonga to Timor with one brief stop.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bligh successfully navigating [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Bountya.jpg all the way to Timor]], then nonchalantly reporting the mutiny the moment he arrives in port.
* ValuesDissonance: Bligh's discipline can seem very harsh to modern eyes, but he was fairly lenient by the standards of the time.
** Indeed, Bligh's biggest problem was that he was ''too nice a guy'' to be the captain of a ship in those days. He let discipline go to hell, and when he finally did try to crack down, it was too little, too late.
* {{Wangst}}: How much Bligh was a tyrant and how much Christian was a whiny emo-boy is open to debate.line.
!! ''The Bounty'' (1984) Contains Examples Of:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: While Lieutenant (not Captain) Bligh can seem rather acid-tongued to his men, his bark is generally worse than his bite. He has some deserters flogged, while standard naval procedure at the time called for the death penalty. He proves his worth as a seaman by navigating the open launch from Tonga to Timor with one brief stop.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bligh successfully navigating [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Bountya.jpg all the way to Timor]], then nonchalantly reporting the mutiny the moment he arrives in port.
* ValuesDissonance: Bligh's discipline can seem very harsh to modern eyes, but he was fairly lenient by the standards of the time.
** Indeed, Bligh's biggest problem was that he was ''too nice a guy'' to be the captain of a ship in those days. He let discipline go to hell, and when he finally did try to crack down, it was too little, too late.
* {{Wangst}}: How much Bligh was a tyrant and how much Christian was a whiny emo-boy is open to debate.
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** Indeed, Bligh's biggest problem was that he was ''too nice a guy'' to be the captain of a ship in those days. He let discipline go to hell, and when he finally did try to crack down, it was too little, too late.
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** Indeed, Bligh's biggest problem was that he was ''too nice a guy'' to be the captain of a ship in those days. He let discipline go to hell, and when he finally did try to crack down, it was too little, too late.late.
* {{Wangst}}: How much Bligh was a tyrant and how much Christian was a whiny emo-boy is open to debate.
* {{Wangst}}: How much Bligh was a tyrant and how much Christian was a whiny emo-boy is open to debate.
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!! The 1935 Film Contains Examples Of:
* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a JerkAss, but his ordering a dead man to be flogged crosses the line.
* MoralEventHorizon: We all know the film's Bligh is a JerkAss, but his ordering a dead man to be flogged crosses the line.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bligh successfully navigating [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Bountya.jpg all the way to Timor]], then nonchalantly reporting the mutiny the moment he arrives in port.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bligh successfully navigating [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Bountya.jpg all the way to Timor]], then nonchalantly reporting the mutiny the moment he arrives in port.port.
* ValuesDissonance: Bligh's discipline can seem very harsh to modern eyes, but he was fairly lenient by the standards of the time.
** Indeed, Bligh's biggest problem was that he was ''too nice a guy'' to be the captain of a ship in those days. He let discipline go to hell, and when he finally did try to crack down, it was too little, too late.
* ValuesDissonance: Bligh's discipline can seem very harsh to modern eyes, but he was fairly lenient by the standards of the time.
** Indeed, Bligh's biggest problem was that he was ''too nice a guy'' to be the captain of a ship in those days. He let discipline go to hell, and when he finally did try to crack down, it was too little, too late.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: While Lieutenant (not Captain) Bligh can seem rather acid-tongued to his men, his bark is generally worse than his bite. He has some deserters flogged, while standard naval procedure at the time called for the death penalty. He proves his worth as a seaman by navigating the open launch from Tonga to Timor with one brief stop.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: While Lieutenant (not Captain) Bligh can seem rather acid-tongued to his men, his bark is generally worse than his bite. He has some deserters flogged, while standard naval procedure at the time called for the death penalty. He proves his worth as a seaman by navigating the open launch from Tonga to Timor with one brief stop.stop.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bligh successfully navigating [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Bountya.jpg all the way to Timor]], then nonchalantly reporting the mutiny the moment he arrives in port.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bligh successfully navigating [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Bountya.jpg all the way to Timor]], then nonchalantly reporting the mutiny the moment he arrives in port.
