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* HilariousInHindsight:
** Seeing Kate Winslet and Guy Pearce together can be this, considering that their respective films, ''[[Film/Titanic1997 Titanic]]'' and ''Film/LAConfidential'', were up against each other in the 1998 Oscars.
** Seeing Kate Winslet and Guy Pearce together can be this, considering that their respective films, ''[[Film/Titanic1997 Titanic]]'' and ''Film/LAConfidential'', were up against each other in the 1998 Oscars.
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** The same dissonance pops up with the scandalous revelation that Veda...is working as a lounge singer. As in actually working to support herself. Here the horrible thing is that Veda has to work instead of having a good husband to support her.
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** The same dissonance pops up with the scandalous revelation that Veda...is Though few parents would be pleased about their young adult daughter working as a lounge singer. As in singer and getting catcalled by lusty soldiers, Mildred is so desperate to get Veda to stop that you'd think she's actually working to support herself. Here a prostitute -- but this is the horrible thing is that Veda has to work instead of having a good husband to support her.40s, so the optics are the same.
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** Seeing Kate Winslet and Guy Pearce together can be this, considering that their respective films, ''[[Film/Titanic1997 Titanic]]'' and ''Film/LAConfidential'', were up against each other in the 1998 Oscars.
** Seeing Kate Winslet and Guy Pearce together can be this, considering that their respective films, ''[[Film/Titanic1997 Titanic]]'' and ''Film/LAConfidential'', were up against each other in the 1998 Oscars.
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Bring any potential Complete Monster examples to the cleanup thread.
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* CompleteMonster: Veda is one of the brattiest and most awful daughters in film history. No matter what her mother does for her, nothing is good enough for her. She has affairs with older men and eventually [[spoiler: murders, leaving her mother to take the fall]].
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* CatharsisFactor:
** Veda is so despicable that it's so brilliantly satisfying in the book when Mildred finally snaps and strangles her. [[LaserGuidedKarma This results in her losing her career as a singer]]. Sadly left out of the film adaptation.
** The film does however have a great scene where [[spoiler: after Veda reveals that Monte loves her, breaking her mother's heart, Monte turns around and says he would never marry a tramp like her]].
* CompleteMonster: Veda is one of the brattiest and most awful daughters in film history. No matter what her mother does for her, nothing is good enough for her. She has affairs with older men and eventually [[spoiler: murders, leaving her mother to take the fall]].
* EnsembleDarkhorse: As most characters played by Creator/EveArden are prone to, Ida is one of the more memorable of the supporting cast for her snarky one-liners. Eve Arden even got a Best Supporting Actress nomination for it. Over time there has even been claims that she came close to stealing the show from Ann Blyth.
* FairForItsDay: Mildred is a pretty great feminist for a 1940s character. She works her way up from a waitressing job - with literally no experience - and ends up owning her own restaurant. What's more is that she gets a whole chain of them in the film.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: In the film when Wally is checking Ida out, she responds "at least leave ''something'' on me. I'll catch cold."
** Veda is so despicable that it's so brilliantly satisfying in the book when Mildred finally snaps and strangles her. [[LaserGuidedKarma This results in her losing her career as a singer]]. Sadly left out of the film adaptation.
** The film does however have a great scene where [[spoiler: after Veda reveals that Monte loves her, breaking her mother's heart, Monte turns around and says he would never marry a tramp like her]].
* CompleteMonster: Veda is one of the brattiest and most awful daughters in film history. No matter what her mother does for her, nothing is good enough for her. She has affairs with older men and eventually [[spoiler: murders, leaving her mother to take the fall]].
* EnsembleDarkhorse: As most characters played by Creator/EveArden are prone to, Ida is one of the more memorable of the supporting cast for her snarky one-liners. Eve Arden even got a Best Supporting Actress nomination for it. Over time there has even been claims that she came close to stealing the show from Ann Blyth.
* FairForItsDay: Mildred is a pretty great feminist for a 1940s character. She works her way up from a waitressing job - with literally no experience - and ends up owning her own restaurant. What's more is that she gets a whole chain of them in the film.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: In the film when Wally is checking Ida out, she responds "at least leave ''something'' on me. I'll catch cold."
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* TheScrappy: Veda in the original film version.
* TheWoobie: Kay. Mildred in the 2011 mini-series.
* TheWoobie: Kay. Mildred in the 2011 mini-series.
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* TheScrappy: ValuesDissonance:
** Veda's disdain of where Mildred's money comes from is a holdover from the classism that was on its way out. The fact that they have money now is irrelevant to the fact that they don't come from blue blood or wealth altogether. And as this is before Second Wave Feminism, Veda too is ashamed of the fact that her mother is a divorcee and working.
** The same dissonance pops up with the scandalous revelation that Veda...is working as a lounge singer. As in actually working to support herself. Here the horrible thing is that Veda has to work instead of having a good husband to support her.
* TheWoobie:
** Kay, who is TheUnfavourite in theoriginal film version.
* TheWoobie: Kay.family. It's not that Mildred doesn't love her; she just is such a doormat at trying to please Veda that Kay gets forgotten. Then the poor girl dies of pneumonia.
** Mildred herself in the 2011mini-series.
miniseries. Creator/KateWinslet is very good at looking like a kicked puppy.
** Veda's disdain of where Mildred's money comes from is a holdover from the classism that was on its way out. The fact that they have money now is irrelevant to the fact that they don't come from blue blood or wealth altogether. And as this is before Second Wave Feminism, Veda too is ashamed of the fact that her mother is a divorcee and working.
** The same dissonance pops up with the scandalous revelation that Veda...is working as a lounge singer. As in actually working to support herself. Here the horrible thing is that Veda has to work instead of having a good husband to support her.
* TheWoobie:
** Kay, who is TheUnfavourite in the
* TheWoobie: Kay.
** Mildred herself in the 2011
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* HarsherInHindsight: The film was made around the time that Joan Crawford's career was in the toilet and her relationship with her adopted children was turning particularly abusive. The film ''Literature/MommieDearest'' however plays the irony as "HilariousInHindsight", complete with the scene where the kids are made to watch Joan and her personal assistant practice the scene where Joan slaps Ann Blyth over and over again.....
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* HarsherInHindsight: The film was made around the time that Joan Crawford's Creator/JoanCrawford's career was in the toilet and her relationship with her adopted children was turning particularly abusive. The film ''Literature/MommieDearest'' however plays the irony as "HilariousInHindsight", complete with the scene where the kids are made to watch Joan and her personal assistant practice the scene where Joan slaps Ann Blyth over and over again.....
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unfortunate implications need citations
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* UnfortunateImplications: A popular interpretation of the Mildred Pierce story has been that Mildred should never have gotten into the world of business and that her fall from grace was karma catching up with her.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Never trust your children, I get it already.
* HarsherInHindsight: The film was made around the time that Joan Crawford's career was in the toilet and her relationship with her adopted children was turning particularly abusive. The film ''MommieDearest'' however plays the irony as "HilariousInHindsight", complete with the scene where the kids are made to watch Joan and her personal assistant practice the scene where Joan slaps Ann Blyth over and over again.....
* HarsherInHindsight: The film was made around the time that Joan Crawford's career was in the toilet and her relationship with her adopted children was turning particularly abusive. The film ''MommieDearest'' however plays the irony as "HilariousInHindsight", complete with the scene where the kids are made to watch Joan and her personal assistant practice the scene where Joan slaps Ann Blyth over and over again.....
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Never trust your children, I get it already.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The film was made around the time that Joan Crawford's career was in the toilet and her relationship with her adopted children was turning particularly abusive. The film''MommieDearest'' ''Literature/MommieDearest'' however plays the irony as "HilariousInHindsight", complete with the scene where the kids are made to watch Joan and her personal assistant practice the scene where Joan slaps Ann Blyth over and over again.....
* HarsherInHindsight: The film was made around the time that Joan Crawford's career was in the toilet and her relationship with her adopted children was turning particularly abusive. The film
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* TheScrappy: Veda in the original film version.
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* UnfortunateImplications: A popular interpretation of the Mildred Pierce story has been that Mildred should never of gotten into the world of business and that her fall from grace was karma catching up with her.
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* UnfortunateImplications: A popular interpretation of the Mildred Pierce story has been that Mildred should never of have gotten into the world of business and that her fall from grace was karma catching up with her.
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*{{Anvilicious}}: Never trust your children, I get it already.
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* UnfortunateImplications: A popular interpretation of the Mildred Pierce story has been that Mildred should never of gotten into the world of business and that her fall from grace was karma catching up with her.her.
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