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* HamAndCheese: Everyone is really over-doing it. Even De Niro's performance, as appropriately subdued in a [[WorldOfHam world where everybody else, including the movie's soundtrack itself, hams it up]] gives us the line: "I will have ''REVEENGE!'' '''Frankensteiin!!'''"
** Averted by ''Creator/JohnCleese'' of all people.
** Averted by ''Creator/JohnCleese'' of all people.
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* BrokenBase: The decision to have Victor [[spoiler: revive Elizabeth as the Bride]]. Those who wanted this to be a TruerToTheText adaptation call foul on something that does not appear in the book at all - and there are fan edits removing that sequence. However, others think this is a great added touch, acting as an even better FaceHeelDoorSlam for Victor - not to mention [[spoiler: Elizabeth choosing to die]] gives the character a bit more agency.
* HamAndCheese: Everyone is really over-doing it. Even De Niro's performance, as appropriately subdued in a [[WorldOfHam world where everybody else, including the movie's soundtrack itself, hams it up]] gives us the line: "I will have ''REVEENGE!'''''Frankensteiin!!'''"
** Averted'''Frankensteiin!!'''". But averted by ''Creator/JohnCleese'' of all people.
* HamAndCheese: Everyone is really over-doing it. Even De Niro's performance, as appropriately subdued in a [[WorldOfHam world where everybody else, including the movie's soundtrack itself, hams it up]] gives us the line: "I will have ''REVEENGE!''
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* JerkassWoobie: Mrs Moritz is a horrible nag, treating Justine horribly throughout the whole film. Her HeelRealization comes however when an angry mob hangs her daughter in the street. She's crying hysterically and trying to pull her down, all while the mob is still throwing things at the body.
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* UglyCute: The revived Elizabeth, played by a young Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter. Short fluffy hair, one very sad eye, and a trembling lower lip. Aww, sweetie.
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** The revived Elizabeth, played by a young Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter. Short fluffy hair, one very sad eye, and a trembling lower lip. Aww, sweetie.
** TheCreature.Creature, who's given enough sympathetic human qualities to be endearing, and Robert De Niro's features are still quite pleasing underneath the make-up.
** The revived Elizabeth, played by a young Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter. Short fluffy hair, one very sad eye, and a trembling lower lip. Aww, sweetie.
** The
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** The Creature's "birth" -- a shirtless Creator/KennethBranagh and a nude Creator/RobertDeNiro... rolling around on the floor... in embryonic fluid...fluid. Speaking of which, there's the manner in which Victor got said fluid, which involved paying midwifes to give him the amniotic fluids of women who have just gone into labor...
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** Though Igor never appears, as he was a CanonForeigner for the Universal movies, Tom Hulce plays Henry, who takes the role of Victor's friend and partner. Two years later, he actually would play a [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame famous fictional hunchback]].
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** Though Igor never appears, as he was a CanonForeigner for the Universal movies, Tom Hulce plays Henry, who takes the role of Victor's friend and partner. Two years later, he actually would play a [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame famous fictional hunchback]].
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** Helena Bonham Carter spends the movie as an upper class period female and then ends it as essentially the Bride of Frankenstein. Oddly symbolic of how her typecasting would change - from {{English Rose}}s in period dramas to dark nutcases.
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** Helena Bonham Carter Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter spends the movie as an upper class period female and then ends it as essentially the Bride of Frankenstein. Oddly symbolic of how her typecasting would change - from {{English Rose}}s in period dramas to dark nutcases.
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** John Cleese in a completely serious role as Professor Waldman was a touch jarring too. Though he too is considered surprisingly brilliant in such a part.
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** John Cleese Creator/JohnCleese in a completely serious role as Professor Waldman was a touch jarring too. Though he too is considered surprisingly brilliant in such a part.
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** Averted by JohnCleese of all people.
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** Averted by JohnCleese ''Creator/JohnCleese'' of all people.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Though Igor never appears, as he was a CanonForeigner for the Universal movies, Tom Hulce plays Henry, who takes the role of Victor's friend and partner. Two years later, he actually would play a [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame famous fictional hunchback]].
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** Though Igor never appears, as he was a CanonForeigner for the Universal movies, Tom Hulce plays Henry, who takes the role of Victor's friend and partner. Two years later, he actually would play a [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame famous fictionalhunchback]].hunchback]].
** Helena Bonham Carter spends the movie as an upper class period female and then ends it as essentially the Bride of Frankenstein. Oddly symbolic of how her typecasting would change - from {{English Rose}}s in period dramas to dark nutcases.
** Though Igor never appears, as he was a CanonForeigner for the Universal movies, Tom Hulce plays Henry, who takes the role of Victor's friend and partner. Two years later, he actually would play a [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame famous fictional
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* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/RobertDeNiro, who is typically typecast in gangster/cop flicks, plays The Creature, which raised a lot of eyebrows at the time. However, a great chunk of movie-goers consider him to be the best thing about this film, if not even the ''only'' good thing.
** John Cleese in a completely serious role as Professor Waldman was a touch jarring too.
%%* TheWoobie: Aside from the creature, it's hard not to feel a little bad for Justine.
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* WTHCastingAgency: TookTheBadFilmSeriously:
** Robert De Niro of course, despite people being shocked at him of all people playing The Creature. He studied stroke victims so he could get a sense of The Creature's developing speech patterns.
** Helena Bonham Carter is a close second, turning in a very layered performance as Elizabeth. Blog/UnshavedMouse felt she ''improved'' the character from the source material.
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** Creator/RobertDeNiro, who is typically typecast in gangster/cop flicks, plays The Creature, which raised a lot of eyebrows at the time. However, a great chunk of movie-goers consider him to be the best thing about this film, if not even the ''only'' good thing.
** John Cleese in a completely serious role as Professor Waldman was a touch jarringtoo.
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** Robert De Niro of course, despite people being shocked at him of all people playing The Creature. He studied stroke victims so he could get a sense of The Creature's developing speech patterns.
** Helena Bonham Carter is a close second, turning in a very layered performance as Elizabeth. Blog/UnshavedMouse felt she ''improved'' the character from the source material.
* WTHCastingAgency:
** Creator/RobertDeNiro, who is typically typecast in gangster/cop flicks, plays The Creature, which raised a lot of eyebrows at the time. However, a great chunk of movie-goers consider him to be the best thing about this film, if not even the ''only'' good thing.
** John Cleese in a completely serious role as Professor Waldman was a touch jarring
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* TheWoobie: This version really amps up how horribly Justine is treated by her mother, and yet she's one of the kindest characters in the movie. Just look at the scene where she's out searching for Willy. And even worse than the book - where she falsely confesses to the murder and gets executed - the townspeople break into the jail before the trial can even happen and hang her in the street!
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* HilariousInHindsight: Though Igor never appears, as he was a CanonForeigner for the Universal movies, Tom Hulce plays Henry, who takes the role of Victor's friend and partner. Two years later, he actually would play a [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame famous fictional hunchback]].
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** Averted by JohnCleese of all people.
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* HamAndCheese: Everyone is really over-doing it. Even De Niro’s performance, as appropriately subdued in a [[WorldOfHam world where everybody else, including the movie's soundtrack itself, hams it up]] gives us the line: "I will have ''REVEENGE!'' '''Frankensteiin!!'''"
* {{Narm}}: One of the few instances where HamAndCheese is not a good thing because of the tonal mismatch in regards to the [[Literature/{{Frankenstein}} the source material]] that the film’s adapting.
* {{Squick}}: The Creature's "birth" -- a shirtless Creator/KennethBranagh and a nude Creator/RobertDeNiro... rolling around on the floor... in embryonic fluid...
* {{Narm}}: One of the few instances where HamAndCheese is not a good thing because of the tonal mismatch in regards to the [[Literature/{{Frankenstein}} the source material]] that the film’s adapting.
* {{Squick}}: The Creature's "birth" -- a shirtless Creator/KennethBranagh and a nude Creator/RobertDeNiro... rolling around on the floor... in embryonic fluid...
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Both inverted and straight. On one hand, the film was expected to get at least some good critics given its casting, respected source material and reportedly good visuals and soundtracks, but it ended up becoming a fest of goofiness instead. On the other hand, De Niro was thought to be awfully miscast as The Creature, but he ended up giving the best performance in the entire film.
* HamAndCheese: Everyone is really over-doing it. Even DeNiro’s Niro's performance, as appropriately subdued in a [[WorldOfHam world where everybody else, including the movie's soundtrack itself, hams it up]] gives us the line: "I will have ''REVEENGE!'' '''Frankensteiin!!'''"
* {{Narm}}:One Most of the few instances where HamAndCheese is not a good thing because of acting, especially given the tonal mismatch in regards to the [[Literature/{{Frankenstein}} the source material]] that the film’s film's adapting.
*{{Squick}}: NarmCharm: From the abrupt tonal shifts to the campy dialogue, the movie invites a lot more laughs than the creator probably intended. That said, it does have genuinely unsettling moments both in spite and because the hystrionism of the medium.
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* SoBadItsGood: From the abrupt tonal shifts to the campy dialogue, the movie invites a lot more laughs than the creator probably intended.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many complaints were directed at [[PragmaticAdaptation The Creature now having the ability to talk]]. Said complainers were unaware that The Creature did in fact learn how to talk, and would [[CharacterFilibuster monologue for chapters pondering its existence.]]
* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/RobertDeNiro, who is typically typecast in gangster/cop flicks, plays The Creature - which raised a lot of eyebrows at the time. However, a great chunk of movie-goers consider him to be the ''only'' good thing about this film.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many complaints were directed at [[PragmaticAdaptation The Creature now having the ability to talk]]. Said complainers were unaware that The Creature did in fact learn how to talk, and would [[CharacterFilibuster monologue for chapters pondering its existence.]]
* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/RobertDeNiro, who is typically typecast in gangster/cop flicks, plays The Creature - which raised a lot of eyebrows at the time. However, a great chunk of movie-goers consider him to be the ''only'' good thing about this film.
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* BadassDecay: {{Averted}}. Did we mention '''Creator/RobertDeNiro'''?
* HamAndCheese: Everyone aside from De Niro is really over-doing it.
** FridgeBrilliance: De Niro's subdued performance shows how much of a misfit the Creature actually is . A subtle character doesn't really belong in a [[WorldOfHam world where everybody else, including the movie's soundtrack itself, hams it up]].
*** Robert De Niro subtle? The man who gave us: "I will have ''REVEENGE!'' '''Frankensteiin!!'''"
* {{Narm}}: One of the few instances where HamAndCheese is not a good thing.
** NarmCharm: Unless, of course, it is.
* HamAndCheese: Everyone aside from De Niro is really over-doing it.
** FridgeBrilliance: De Niro's subdued performance shows how much of a misfit the Creature actually is . A subtle character doesn't really belong in a [[WorldOfHam world where everybody else, including the movie's soundtrack itself, hams it up]].
*** Robert De Niro subtle? The man who gave us: "I will have ''REVEENGE!'' '''Frankensteiin!!'''"
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* WTHCastingAgency: Again, '''Creator/RobertDeNiro''' is playing The Creature. ''[[SincerityMode He actually makes it work.]]''
** Not just that: a good chunk of movie-goers consider him the ''only'' good thing about this film.
* TheWoobie: Aside from the creature, it's hard not to feel a little bad for Justine.
* UglyCute: The Creature.
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** Not just that: a good chunk of movie-goers consider him the ''only'' good thing about this film.
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* WTHCastingAgency: Again, '''Creator/RobertDeNiro''' Creator/RobertDeNiro, who is playing typically typecast in gangster/cop flicks, plays The Creature. ''[[SincerityMode He actually makes it work.]]''
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* WTHCastingAgency: Again, '''RobertDeNiro''' is playing The Creature. ''[[SincerityMode He actually makes it work.]]''
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** FridgeBrilliance: De Niro's subdued performance shows how much of a misfit the Creature actually is . A subtle character doesn't really belong in a [[WorldOFHam world where everybody else, including the movie's soundtrack itself, hams it up]].
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many complaints were directed at [[PragmaticAdaptation The Creature now having the ability to talk]]. Said complainers were unaware that that The Creature did in-fact in fact learn how to talk, and would [[CharacterFilibuster monologue for chapters pondering its existence.]]
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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: You can't really blame The Creature for being the way it is.
** There's a moment during the Creature's escape where it's hiding in an alley. It picks up a piece of fur cloth and begins to stroke it nervously in terror, giving it such a child-like and tragic innocence.
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* TearJerker: After Victor has died, the Captain finds The Creature in his cabin, mourning.
-->'''Captain:''' Who are you?
-->'''Creature:''' ...He never gave me a name... ''[begins to cry bitterly]''
-->'''Captain:''' Why do you weep?
-->'''Creature:''' ...He was my father...
-->'''Captain:''' Who are you?
-->'''Creature:''' ...He never gave me a name... ''[begins to cry bitterly]''
-->'''Captain:''' Why do you weep?
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