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* BileFascination: One major reason why one would want to read this series is to see if it's really as bizarre and stupid as its reputation claims.

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* BileFascination: One major The biggest reason why that one would want to read this series is to see if it's really as bizarre and stupid as its reputation claims.reviewers have claimed.
* BrokenAesop: As much as the comic skewers left-wing viewpoints, Al's story is clumsily rooted in socialism, if not communism. He arrives in the past with no money, no skills, and no personal identification, gets by at first due to the charity and help of others who take pity on him, and becomes rich through what is basically government handouts for doing nothing. Additionally, he claims that in the future society of 5002 everything on Earth is owned and run by AOL and no one has any personal possessions, yet the future is shown to be a rather idyllic advanced utopia (and Al claims that crime has been eradicated if only because no one has any personal possessions to steal anymore).
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* {{Wangst}}: Mickey claims people should feel bad for the ''air molecules that humans destroy when they breathe.'' Keep in mind that nobody argues with her on this and this occurs during the philosophical portion of the comic, implying that Jemas thinks the same thing -- or worse, this is intended as another (tangential) jab at liberals/environmentalists/secularists/youths/all of the above.
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** Oddly enough, Issue 3 is considered one to the rest of the series. This is because in that issue, the text is printed right on top of the artwork, which ends up covering up quite a bit of it (the only thing in boxes or bubbles is panel descriptions and two thought bubbles, both of which come from a ''fish'').

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** Oddly enough, Issue 3 is considered one to the rest of the series. This is because in that issue, the text is printed right on top of the artwork, which ends up covering up quite a bit of it (the it. The only thing in boxes or bubbles is are panel descriptions and two thought bubbles, both of which come from a ''fish'').''fish''.
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** Issue 6 is a recap of the series. Normally, it wouldn't be an example of this trope, except it also happens to be the last issue to actually be about Marville.
** The actual final issue, Issue 7, is a submissions guideline for Marvel's Epic Comics line and doesn't even feature the cast.

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** Issue 6 is a recap of the series. Normally, it wouldn't be an example of this trope, except it also happens to be the last issue to that's actually be about Marville.
** The actual final issue, Issue 7, is a submissions guideline for Marvel's Epic Comics line and doesn't even feature imprint. None of the cast.cast show up in it at all.
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** The actual final issue, Issue 7, is a submission guideline for Marvel's Epic Comics line and doesn't even feature the cast.

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** The actual final issue, Issue 7, is a submission submissions guideline for Marvel's Epic Comics line and doesn't even feature the cast.
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** Issue 6 is a recap issue -- which wouldn't fit this trope if it wasn't for the fact that it's the last issue to actually be about Marville. But as for the actual last issue...
** Issue 7 doesn't even feature the cast, and is instead a submission guideline for Marvel's Epic Comics line.

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** Issue 6 is a recap issue -- which of the series. Normally, it wouldn't fit be an example of this trope if trope, except it wasn't for the fact that it's also happens to be the last issue to actually be about Marville. But as for the Marville.
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final issue, Issue 7 doesn't even feature the cast, and 7, is instead a submission guideline for Marvel's Epic Comics line.line and doesn't even feature the cast.
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** As strange as this sounds, Issue 3 is this to the rest of the series -- mainly because in this issue, the budget was apparently so low that the text is printed right on top of the artwork, covering it (the only thing in boxes or bubbles is panel descriptions and two thought bubbles from a ''fish'').

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** As strange as this sounds, Oddly enough, Issue 3 is this considered one to the rest of the series -- mainly series. This is because in this that issue, the budget was apparently so low that the text is printed right on top of the artwork, which ends up covering up quite a bit of it (the only thing in boxes or bubbles is panel descriptions and two thought bubbles bubbles, both of which come from a ''fish'').
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RTDE should only be put into a YMMV page if it's about characters being vilified and/or believed to be evil by the audience. Individual works doing that are just using Adaptational Tropes.


* RonTheDeathEater: Franchise/{{Batman}}, ComicBook/IronMan, and ComicBook/BlackPanther receive this treatment, being portrayed as violent fascists who attack homeless people.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The very first issue features UsefulNotes/TedTurner (somehow still alive in 5002) karate-chopping meteors in half, building a time machine out of [=PS1=] and Atari parts and sending his son Kal-AOL back in time. In the following issues, the absurdity goes FromBadToWorse.
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-->'''Kal:''' So Film/JurassicPark wasn't just a movie, it was a tribute!\\\
'''Mickey:''' Literature/{{Tarzan}} isn't a fantasy, it's a memory!

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-->'''Kal:''' So Film/JurassicPark wasn't just a movie, it was a tribute!\\\
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tribute!
-->'''Mickey:'''
Literature/{{Tarzan}} isn't a fantasy, it's a memory!
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** As much as the comic skewers left-wing viewpoints, Al's story is rooted in socialism. He arrives in the past with no money, no skills, and no personal identification, gets by at first due to the charity and help of others who take pity on him, and becomes rich through what is basically government handouts for doing nothing. Additionally, he claims that in the future society of 5002 everything on Earth is owned and run by AOL and no one has any personal possessions, yet the future is shown to be a rather idyllic advanced utopia (and Al claims that crime has been eradicated if only because no one has any personal possessions to steal anymore).
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* SoBadItsGood: Weirdly, the comic can be seen to start getting funny when it ''stops'' trying to be an intentional comedy and goes into hilariously ill-researched tangents on various subjects like religion, science and philosophy that are supposed to be taken seriously. Special mentions go to the talking Jewish dinosaurs and tragically murdered carbon dioxide molecules.
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* {{Narm}}: There are a lot of lines in the comic that are supposed to be meaningful or insightful, but just [[IceCreamKoan come off as awkward or stupid]]. For example:

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* {{Narm}}: There are a lot of lines in the comic that are supposed to be meaningful or insightful, but just [[IceCreamKoan come off as awkward or stupid]].stupid. For example:
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* {{Narm}}: There are a lot of lines in the comic that are supposed to be meaningful or insightful, but just come off as awkward or stupid. For example:

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* {{Narm}}: There are a lot of lines in the comic that are supposed to be meaningful or insightful, but just [[IceCreamKoan come off as awkward or stupid.stupid]]. For example:
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: To say that this comic hasn't aged well is an understatement. For example, there are numerous references to AOL Time-Warner, portraying it as a powerful MegaCorp that rules the world in 5002 (relatively plausible in 2002, downright laughable now). There are also "jokes" about the industry in general -- and Marvel's staff and comics in particular -- in the early 2000s. One example is showing Creator/PeterDavid, who was making a bet with Bill Jemas to see who could sell more comics, as a poor man ([[HilariousInHindsight David won the bet]]). And the title and the cover of issue #1 reference ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', which had come out a year ago. Still, Jemas nevertheless manages to somehow screw up at depicting how things were in the early 2000s. For instance, UsefulNotes/TedTurner and Creator/JaneFonda were ''divorced'' at the time of publication.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: To say that this comic hasn't aged well is an understatement. For example, there are numerous references to AOL Time-Warner, portraying it as a powerful MegaCorp that rules the world in 5002 (relatively plausible in 2002, downright laughable now). There are also "jokes" about the industry in general -- and Marvel's staff and comics in particular -- in the early 2000s. One example is showing Creator/PeterDavid, who was making a bet with Bill Jemas to see who could sell more comics, as a poor man ([[HilariousInHindsight David won the bet]]). And the title and the cover of issue #1 reference ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', which had come out a the year ago. before. Still, Jemas nevertheless somehow manages to somehow screw up at depicting how things were in the early 2000s. For 2000s; for instance, UsefulNotes/TedTurner and Creator/JaneFonda were ''divorced'' at the time of publication.
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** As much as the comic skewers left-wing viewpoints, Al's story is rooted in socialism. He arrives in the past with no money, no skills, and no personal identification, gets by at first due to the charity and help of others who take pity on him, and becomes rich through what is basically government handouts for doing nothing. Additionally, he claims that in the future society of 5002 everything on Earth is owned and run by AOL and no one has any personal possessions, yet the future is shown to be a rather idyllic advanced utopia.

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** As much as the comic skewers left-wing viewpoints, Al's story is rooted in socialism. He arrives in the past with no money, no skills, and no personal identification, gets by at first due to the charity and help of others who take pity on him, and becomes rich through what is basically government handouts for doing nothing. Additionally, he claims that in the future society of 5002 everything on Earth is owned and run by AOL and no one has any personal possessions, yet the future is shown to be a rather idyllic advanced utopia.utopia (and Al claims that crime has been eradicated if only because no one has any personal possessions to steal anymore).
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** As much as the comic skewers left-wing viewpoints, Al's story is rooted in socialism. He arrives in the past with no money, no skills, and no personal identification, gets by at first due to the charity and help of others who take pity on him, and becomes rich through what is basically government handouts for doing nothing. Additionally, he claims that in the future society of 5002 everything on Earth is owned and run by AOL and no one has any personal possessions, yet the future is shown to be a rather idyllic advanced utopia.
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*** Similarly, Al is established to be [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob very rich in-universe]]. The in-universe explanation could have been that Al was launching his own comics company since the editor in the sixth issue refused to publish his story, and ''Marville'' was the very comic to come out of that.

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*** Similarly, Al is established to be [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob [[Fiction500 very rich in-universe]]. The in-universe explanation could have been that Al was launching his own comics company since the editor in the sixth issue refused to publish his story, and ''Marville'' was the very comic to come out of that.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Lots of theories that this comic presents have been already debunked for some time. Several more are complete nonsense Jemas apparently made up himself.
** The AOL and Ted Turner jokes flat make no sense -- while he was for the AOL-Time Warner merger at first, Ted Turner actually turned ''against'' it after losing billions when Time Warner's stock fell and he was basically left powerless in the combined company. Nothing suggests that the merger was the other way around in the universe of ''Marville'', either.
** Jemas apparently didn't know Marvel's own characters very well, as at one point he brings up how ComicBook/SpiderMan [[PartingWordsRegret didn't get to make amends with Uncle Ben about their argument before he died]], and his inability to reconcile his father issues with Ben are the core of the character's mythos. The problem is that this is all from the [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy Sam Raimi]] films and the [[ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan Ultimate Universe]]! In the original ''Spider-Man'' origin story in the comics, there ''was'' no argument with Uncle Ben before he died, and Peter got along with him just fine.
** Oxygen molecules are treated as living creatures that we should feel sorry for "killing" with our very existence.
** He bought into the myth that humans only used [[NinetyPercentOfYourBrain 10% of their brains]]. Even weirder is the claim that UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein [[ScienceIsBad drew the roadmap to developing nuclear weapons because he had "20% more" of his brain capacity]] -- heaven knows where ''that'' number is drawn from.
** In Issue 4, Jack states that the extinction of the dinosaurs is set to occur in "about a hundred years", but they're in the Jurassic period; a whole other era of geologic history, the Cretaceous period, came after the Jurassic period, and lasted about 80 million years before the asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs.
** Hadrosaurs can apparently speak English (and Hebrew), because they have the most advanced vocal chords in history. Even if that is true, being able to formulate words is not the same as speaking.
** The comic brings up the idea that [[ApeShallNeverKillApe humans are the only species that kill other members of their species]]. As [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] points out in his review of Issue 4, humanity's large population proves that humans killing other humans is the exception, not the rule, not to mention bringing up various other documented examples of other species killing members of their own species[[note]]e.g. mountain gorillas killing other mountain gorillas if they wander into their territory[[/note]].
** The comic always refers to the Jurassic period as Franchise/JurassicPark, suggesting that Bill Jemas may actually believe that was the name of the period.
** Apparently humans evolved from otters, and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} was a real person and the first human. Also, evolution is treated as something that happens to the same individual over a period of time, and not the slow adaptation of a species over generations.

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