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** The consensus view these days is that, even though she lacks subtlety, Tippi Hedren does a good job conveying Marnie's wounded psyche and inner turmoil.
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** The consensus view these days is that, even though she lacks subtlety, Tippi Hedren Creator/TippiHedren does a good job conveying Marnie's wounded psyche and inner turmoil.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Watch this and ''Film/HushHushSweetCharlotte'' back to back, and you'll find that Creator/BruceDern makes a habit of [[spoiler: being brutally murdered in the backstory of a mentally ill heroine]].
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** Watch this and ''Film/HushHushSweetCharlotte'' back to back, and you'll find that Creator/BruceDern makes a habit of [[spoiler: being brutally murdered in the backstory of a mentally illheroine]]. heroine]].
** Almost a half-century after this film, Tippi Hedren's granddaughter Creator/DakotaJohnson would also play the female lead in [[Film/FiftyShadesOfGrey a story about a woman's complex sexual relationship with a moody corporate executive who has a not-so-hidden dark side]].
** Watch this and ''Film/HushHushSweetCharlotte'' back to back, and you'll find that Creator/BruceDern makes a habit of [[spoiler: being brutally murdered in the backstory of a mentally ill
** Almost a half-century after this film, Tippi Hedren's granddaughter Creator/DakotaJohnson would also play the female lead in [[Film/FiftyShadesOfGrey a story about a woman's complex sexual relationship with a moody corporate executive who has a not-so-hidden dark side]].
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* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: It's one film that's frequently attacked for misogynistic themes, and it was also Hitchcock's only film to be completely written by a woman (albeit an adaptation of a Winston Graham novel).
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* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: It's one The film that's frequently attacked for misogynistic themes, has often been accused of misogyny, and it was also Hitchcock's only film to be completely written by a woman (albeit an adaptation of a Winston Graham novel).
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* OnceOriginalNowCommon: A double whammy. Tippi Hedren later attributed the film's poor reception to the fact that it was shocking how it tackled the effects of childhood trauma, as well as discussions on psychology and sexuality, which wasn't done at the time, making it ''too'' original. But from modern perspective, the themes ''Marnie'' deals with just seem passé or haven't aged particularly well, because just so many other works did the same stuff and did so better.
--> "People didn't talk about childhood and its effects on adult life. It was taboo to discuss sexuality and psychology and to put all that into a film was shocking."
--> "People didn't talk about childhood and its effects on adult life. It was taboo to discuss sexuality and psychology and to put all that into a film was shocking."
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Tippi Hedren later attributed the film's poor reception to the fact that it was shocking how it tackled the effects of childhood trauma, as well as discussions on psychology and sexuality, which wasn't done at the time. The themes ''Marnie'' deals with just seem passé to a modern audience or haven't aged particularly well.
--> "People didn't talk about childhood and its effects on adult life. It was taboo to discuss sexuality and psychology and to put all that into a film was shocking."
--> "People didn't talk about childhood and its effects on adult life. It was taboo to discuss sexuality and psychology and to put all that into a film was shocking."
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** Most of Diane Baker's performance as Lil is ridiculously extreme. Of special note is her over-the-top attitude when she claims her hand is too sore to write.
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** Most of Diane Baker's Creator/DianeBaker's performance as Lil is ridiculously extreme. Of special note is her over-the-top attitude when she claims her hand is too sore to write.
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* VindicatedByHistory: Opened to mixed reviews and decent-but-not-outstanding box office in 1964. Now it's often considered Hitchcock's last great film (with ''Film/TheBirds'' and ''Film/{{Frenzy}}'' as the main challengers for that title).
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* VindicatedByHistory: Opened to mixed reviews and decent-but-not-outstanding box office in 1964. Now it's often considered Hitchcock's last great film (with ''Film/TheBirds'' and ''Film/{{Frenzy}}'' ''Film/{{Frenzy|1972}}'' as the main challengers for that title).
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** On the surface it seems like a totally different beast from ''Film/{{Psycho}}'', since it's in color and plays more like a melodrama than a horror film, but there are some intriguing connections between the films. They both open with a woman named Marion stealing a large amount of money from her boss. And they both focus on a {{Woobie}}-ish serial criminal whose [[FreudWasRight deviant behavior and sexual peculiarities]] stem from a [[MyBelovedSmother domineering mother]] and a horrific childhood incident.
** You can also view it as a variation on ''Literature/{{Rebecca}}'', with Mark as Maxim de Winter, Marnie as the second Mrs. de Winter, and Lil as Mrs. Danvers.
** On the surface it seems like a totally different beast from ''Film/{{Psycho}}'', since it's in color and plays more like a melodrama than a horror film, but there are some intriguing connections between the films. They both open with a woman named Marion stealing a large amount of money from her boss. And they both focus on a {{Woobie}}-ish serial criminal whose [[FreudWasRight deviant behavior and sexual peculiarities]] stem from a [[MyBelovedSmother domineering mother]] and a horrific childhood incident.
** You can also view it as a variation on ''Literature/{{Rebecca}}'', with Mark as Maxim de Winter, Marnie as the second Mrs. de Winter, and Lil as Mrs. Danvers.
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* ValuesDissonance: Mark rapes Marnie on their 'honeymoon', invoking the MaritalRapeLicense and never gets any comeuppance for this - and [[spoiler: Marnie even seems to fall for him for real in the end!]] Even back when the film was being made, other crew members tried to convince Hitchcock to take that scene out, finding that it made Mark impossible to sympathise with.
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* ValuesDissonance: Mark rapes Marnie on their 'honeymoon', invoking the MaritalRapeLicense and never gets any comeuppance for this - and [[spoiler: Marnie even seems to fall for him for real in the end!]] Even back when the film was being made, other crew members tried to convince Hitchcock to take that scene out, finding that it made Mark impossible to sympathise with. Creator/EvanHunter's objections got him fired as the screenwriter.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The old age make-up used on Louise Latham for the present day scenes. It was so convincing that when she appeared without it for the flashback scenes to Marnie's youth, most of the crew thought it was a different actress!
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The old age make-up used on Louise Latham Creator/LouiseLatham for the present day scenes. It was so convincing that when she appeared without it for the flashback scenes to Marnie's youth, most of the crew thought it was a different actress!
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** That's the future [[Series/TheYoungAndTheRestless Nikki Newman]] as young Marnie.
** Creator/BruceDern, in only the third film of his career, as [[spoiler:the sailor who young Marnie killed after her mother's "bad accident"]]. He went on to star in Hitchcock's last film, ''Film/FamilyPlot''.
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** That's the future [[Series/TheYoungAndTheRestless Melody Thomas Scott, who went on to play Nikki Newman]] Newman on ''Series/TheYoungAndTheRestless'', as young Marnie.
Marnie in the flashback scene.
** Also in the flashback is Creator/BruceDern, in only the third film of his career, as [[spoiler:the sailor who young Marniekilled after her mother's "bad accident"]].kills]]. He went on to star in Hitchcock's last film, ''Film/FamilyPlot''.
** Also in the flashback is Creator/BruceDern, in only the third film of his career, as [[spoiler:the sailor who young Marnie
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** Marnie's dislike of men and utter terror of being intimate with Mark have led to some people suggesting she might be a repressed lesbian. She has quite a bit of FoeYay with Lil to back it up.
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** Marnie's dislike of men and utter terror of being intimate with Mark have led to some people suggesting she might be a repressed lesbian. She has quite a bit of FoeYay tension with Lil to back it up.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Marnie's dislike of men and utter terror of being intimate with Mark have led to some people suggesting she might be a repressed lesbian. She has quite a bit of FoeYay with Lil to back it up.
* AmbiguouslyBi: Lil loves Mark, but also seems to have some BelligerentSexualTension with Marnie.
* AmbiguouslyBi: Lil loves Mark, but also seems to have some BelligerentSexualTension with Marnie.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Marnie's dislike of men and utter terror of being intimate with Mark have led to some people suggesting she might be a repressed lesbian. She has quite a bit of FoeYay with Lil to back it up.
* AmbiguouslyBi: ** Some interpret Lil as AmbiguouslyBi. She loves Mark, but also seems to have some BelligerentSexualTension with Marnie.
** Marnie's dislike of men and utter terror of being intimate with Mark have led to some people suggesting she might be a repressed lesbian. She has quite a bit of FoeYay with Lil to back it up.
* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: It's one film that's frequently attacked for misogynistic themes, and it was also Hitchcock's only film to be completely written by a woman (albeit an adaptation of a Winston Graham novel).
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Tippi Hedren later attributed the film's poor reception to the fact that it was shocking how it tackled the effects of childhood trauma, as well as discussions on psychology and sexuality, which wasn't done at the time. The themes ''Marnie'' deals with just seem passé to a modern audience or haven't aged particularly well.
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* ValuesDissonance: Mark rapes Marnie on their 'honeymoon', invoking the MaritalRapeLicense and never gets any comeuppance for this - and [[spoiler: Marnie even seems to fall for him for real in the end!]]
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* ValuesDissonance: Mark rapes Marnie on their 'honeymoon', invoking the MaritalRapeLicense and never gets any comeuppance for this - and [[spoiler: Marnie even seems to fall for him for real in the end!]]end!]] Even back when the film was being made, other crew members tried to convince Hitchcock to take that scene out, finding that it made Mark impossible to sympathise with.
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* TrappedByMountainLions:
** Marnie is forced to go on a fox hunting trip for no apparent reason in the third act. Strut and Mark aren't there, so she has no reason to go there, especially when she knows that the sight of blood could trigger. [[spoiler: Of course it does and it sets up a contrived moment where her horse gets injured jumping over a wall and has to be put down]].
*** The reason given is that Mark wants her out of the house while he deals with Strut.
** Lil's dislike of Marnie ultimately goes nowhere. All it amounts to is discovering that Marnie's mother is still alive and inviting Strut to a dinner party, which forces Marnie to admit to Mark that she's robbed other people. While these do affect the plot, both could have happened without Lil's help and she disappears in the third act - so her subplot is never given a decent payoff.
** Marnie is forced to go on a fox hunting trip for no apparent reason in the third act. Strut and Mark aren't there, so she has no reason to go there, especially when she knows that the sight of blood could trigger. [[spoiler: Of course it does and it sets up a contrived moment where her horse gets injured jumping over a wall and has to be put down]].
*** The reason given is that Mark wants her out of the house while he deals with Strut.
** Lil's dislike of Marnie ultimately goes nowhere. All it amounts to is discovering that Marnie's mother is still alive and inviting Strut to a dinner party, which forces Marnie to admit to Mark that she's robbed other people. While these do affect the plot, both could have happened without Lil's help and she disappears in the third act - so her subplot is never given a decent payoff.
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** Marnie is forced to go on a fox hunting trip for no apparent reason in the third act. Strut and Mark aren't there, so she has no reason to go there, especially when she knows that the sight of blood could trigger. [[spoiler: Of course it does and it sets up a contrived moment where her horse gets injured jumping over a wall and has to be put down]].
*** The reason given is that Mark wants her out of the house while he deals with Strut.
**TrappedByMountainLions: Lil's dislike of Marnie ultimately goes nowhere. All it amounts to is discovering that Marnie's mother is still alive and inviting Strut to a dinner party, which forces Marnie to admit to Mark that she's robbed other people. While these do affect the plot, both could have happened without Lil's help and she disappears in the third act - so her subplot is never given a decent payoff.
** Marnie is forced to go on a fox hunting trip for no apparent reason in the third act. Strut and Mark aren't there, so she has no reason to go there, especially when she knows that the sight of blood could trigger. [[spoiler: Of course it does and it sets up a contrived moment where her horse gets injured jumping over a wall and has to be put down]].
*** The reason given is that Mark wants her out of the house while he deals with Strut.
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** Recent revelations about Sean Connery, and his statements in interviews, make the domestic violence angle a little too based in reality to be comfortable.
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** Recent revelations Revelations about Sean Connery, and his statements in interviews, make the domestic violence angle a little too based in reality to be comfortable.
