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* InternetBackdraft: Oh boy.
** Wheein seems to get the most backdraft:
*** She often mocks Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc). Then, in summer 2015, she went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].
*** She's also faced criticism for [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2017/06/mamamoo-holds-comeback-showcase-amidst.html posting a selfie]] that "mocked non-celebrities", and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2017/06/mamamoo-holds-comeback-showcase-amidst.html another post]] where she wrote that Mamamoo's song "Rainy Season" was a good song to listen to during [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Japan_floods Typhoon Prapiroon]] (a dangerous storm that killed one person in South Korea).
*** In [[https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/08/enter-talk-mamamoo-wheein-controversial.html mid-2018, a post was made talking about a controversial quote of hers]]. Basically, she said Solar was quite good at singing a "cute" version of one of the lyrics from rapper Fatdoo's "The Girlfriend Torso Murder", and encouraged fans to listen to it. The song is quite misogynistic, as well as '''''extremely''''' gruesome and graphic in its descriptions of murder, dismemberment and cannibalism, and many fans took offense to the fact that the group would encourage young people to listen to it.
** Fans have pointed out how Hwasa and Moonbyul appropriate cornrows and braids whenever they do a rap/hip-hop stage but in the Ahh Oop! MV, an afro and dreadlocks are seen as part a montage of "ridiculous" hairstyles. Kind of...not a good look for the girls.
*** In early 2016, a video of Hwasa singing {{Music/Beyonce}}'s Irreplaceable surfaced on Youtube, with Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1lpW0Wd8U singing the "n-word"]]. This '''really''' didn't go over well with fans and non-fans.
*** In 2017, they did a performance of Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk"... [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/mamamoo-did-blackface-at-a-concert-and-theres-not-much-more-to-say-really/ in blackface]]. [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/rainbow-bridge-world-issue-apology-kinda-for-mamamoos-blackface-skit/ They did apologize]], but the damage has been done.
** Solar's kiss scene in "Decalcomanie," as detailed on the main page.
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*** She often mocks Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)Then, in summer 2015, she went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].

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*** She often mocks Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)Then, etc). Then, in summer 2015, she went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].

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*** In [[https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/08/enter-talk-mamamoo-wheein-controversial.html mid-2018, a post was made talking about a controversial quote of hers]]. Basically, she said Solar was quite good at singing a "cute" version of one of the lyrics from rapper Fatdoo's "The Girlfriend Torso Murder". The song is quite misogynistic, as well as '''''extremely''''' gruesome and graphic in its descriptions of murder and cannibalism, and many fans took offense to the group's telling young fans to go and listen to it.

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*** In [[https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/08/enter-talk-mamamoo-wheein-controversial.html mid-2018, a post was made talking about a controversial quote of hers]]. Basically, she said Solar was quite good at singing a "cute" version of one of the lyrics from rapper Fatdoo's "The Girlfriend Torso Murder". Murder", and encouraged fans to listen to it. The song is quite misogynistic, as well as '''''extremely''''' gruesome and graphic in its descriptions of murder murder, dismemberment and cannibalism, and many fans took offense to the group's telling fact that the group would encourage young fans people to go and listen to it.



** In early 2016, a video of Hwasa singing {{Music/Beyonce}}'s Irreplaceable surfaced on Youtube, with Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1lpW0Wd8U singing the "n-word"]]. This '''really''' didn't go over well with fans and non-fans.

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** *** In early 2016, a video of Hwasa singing {{Music/Beyonce}}'s Irreplaceable surfaced on Youtube, with Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1lpW0Wd8U singing the "n-word"]]. This '''really''' didn't go over well with fans and non-fans.
*** In 2017, they did a performance of Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk"... [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/mamamoo-did-blackface-at-a-concert-and-theres-not-much-more-to-say-really/ in blackface]]. [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/rainbow-bridge-world-issue-apology-kinda-for-mamamoos-blackface-skit/ They did apologize]], but the damage has been done.



** In 2017, they did a performance of Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk"... [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/mamamoo-did-blackface-at-a-concert-and-theres-not-much-more-to-say-really/ in blackface]]. [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/rainbow-bridge-world-issue-apology-kinda-for-mamamoos-blackface-skit/ They did apologize]], but the damage has been done.

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*** She often mocks Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)
*** In summer 2015, she went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].

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*** She often mocks Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)
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)Then, in summer 2015, she went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].
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*** She often mocks Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", [[https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3e819370a83e3ad3f5d6b2e1f95e69b85d3c71867480b3d327af4a76aea9973.png?w=600&h=533 likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)

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*** She often mocks Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", [[https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3e819370a83e3ad3f5d6b2e1f95e69b85d3c71867480b3d327af4a76aea9973.png?w=600&h=533 likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)

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** Wheein often mocking Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)

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** Wheein seems to get the most backdraft:
*** She
often mocking mocks Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", [[https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3e819370a83e3ad3f5d6b2e1f95e69b85d3c71867480b3d327af4a76aea9973.png?w=600&h=533 likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.) )
*** In summer 2015, she went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].
*** She's also faced criticism for [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2017/06/mamamoo-holds-comeback-showcase-amidst.html posting a selfie]] that "mocked non-celebrities", and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2017/06/mamamoo-holds-comeback-showcase-amidst.html another post]] where she wrote that Mamamoo's song "Rainy Season" was a good song to listen to during [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Japan_floods Typhoon Prapiroon]] (a dangerous storm that killed one person in South Korea).
*** In [[https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/08/enter-talk-mamamoo-wheein-controversial.html mid-2018, a post was made talking about a controversial quote of hers]]. Basically, she said Solar was quite good at singing a "cute" version of one of the lyrics from rapper Fatdoo's "The Girlfriend Torso Murder". The song is quite misogynistic, as well as '''''extremely''''' gruesome and graphic in its descriptions of murder and cannibalism, and many fans took offense to the group's telling young fans to go and listen to it.



** In summer 2015, Wheein went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].
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* InternetBackdraft: Oh boy.(ya like how many boygroups have done even worse, ofcourse only the girls get this tone)
** Wheein often mocking Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.) (Black is used to refer to as dark in asia try again)
** Fans have pointed out how Hwasa and Moonbyul appropriate cornrows and braids whenever they do a rap/hip-hop stage but in the Ahh Oop! MV, an afro and dreadlocks are seen as part a montage of "ridiculous" hairstyles. Kind of...not a good look for the girls.(also kinda dumb af since they're braids)
** In summer 2015, Wheein went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]]. (Jossed: op is not sure it's wheein and black is used in asia as a reference to dark skin)
** In early 2016, a video of Hwasa singing {{Music/Beyonce}}'s Irreplaceable surfaced on Youtube, with Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1lpW0Wd8U singing the "n-word"]]. This '''really''' didn't go over well with fans and non-fans. (Melon has the word on it and she cant evsn speak english)
** Solar's kiss scene in "Decalcomanie," as detailed on the main page. (Typical trope in most asian and kdramas)
** In 2017, they did a performance of Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk"... [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/mamamoo-did-blackface-at-a-concert-and-theres-not-much-more-to-say-really/ in blackface]]. [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/rainbow-bridge-world-issue-apology-kinda-for-mamamoos-blackface-skit/ They did apologize]], but the damage has been done. (Apologized in under 12 hours, directing apology towards black community, subsequently better than other kpop groups with vague apologies)

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* InternetBackdraft: Oh boy.(ya like how many boygroups have done even worse, ofcourse only the girls get this tone)
boy.
** Wheein often mocking Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.) (Black is used to refer to as dark in asia try again)
)
** Fans have pointed out how Hwasa and Moonbyul appropriate cornrows and braids whenever they do a rap/hip-hop stage but in the Ahh Oop! MV, an afro and dreadlocks are seen as part a montage of "ridiculous" hairstyles. Kind of...not a good look for the girls.(also kinda dumb af since they're braids)
girls.
** In summer 2015, Wheein went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]]. (Jossed: op is not sure it's wheein and black is used in asia as a reference to dark skin)\n
** In early 2016, a video of Hwasa singing {{Music/Beyonce}}'s Irreplaceable surfaced on Youtube, with Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1lpW0Wd8U singing the "n-word"]]. This '''really''' didn't go over well with fans and non-fans. (Melon has the word on it and she cant evsn speak english)\n
** Solar's kiss scene in "Decalcomanie," as detailed on the main page. (Typical trope in most asian and kdramas)\n
** In 2017, they did a performance of Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk"... [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/mamamoo-did-blackface-at-a-concert-and-theres-not-much-more-to-say-really/ in blackface]]. [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/rainbow-bridge-world-issue-apology-kinda-for-mamamoos-blackface-skit/ They did apologize]], but the damage has been done. (Apologized in under 12 hours, directing apology towards black community, subsequently better than other kpop groups with vague apologies)
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* InternetBackdraft: Oh boy.
** Wheein often mocking Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)

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* InternetBackdraft: Oh boy.
boy.(ya like how many boygroups have done even worse, ofcourse only the girls get this tone)
** Wheein often mocking Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)) (Black is used to refer to as dark in asia try again)
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** Fans have pointed out how Hwasa and Moonbyul appropriate cornrows and braids whenever they do a rap/hip-hop stage but in the Ahh Oop! MV, an afro and dreadlocks are seen as part a montage of "ridiculous" hairstyles. Kind of...not a good look for the girls.
** In summer 2015, Wheein went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].
** In early 2016, a video of Hwasa singing {{Music/Beyonce}}'s Irreplaceable surfaced on Youtube, with Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1lpW0Wd8U singing the "n-word"]]. This '''really''' didn't go over well with fans and non-fans.
** Solar's kiss scene in "Decalcomanie," as detailed on the main page.
** In 2017, they did a performance of Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk"... [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/mamamoo-did-blackface-at-a-concert-and-theres-not-much-more-to-say-really/ in blackface]]. [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/rainbow-bridge-world-issue-apology-kinda-for-mamamoos-blackface-skit/ They did apologize]], but the damage has been done.

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** Fans have pointed out how Hwasa and Moonbyul appropriate cornrows and braids whenever they do a rap/hip-hop stage but in the Ahh Oop! MV, an afro and dreadlocks are seen as part a montage of "ridiculous" hairstyles. Kind of...not a good look for the girls.
girls.(also kinda dumb af since they're braids)
** In summer 2015, Wheein went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]]. \n (Jossed: op is not sure it's wheein and black is used in asia as a reference to dark skin)
** In early 2016, a video of Hwasa singing {{Music/Beyonce}}'s Irreplaceable surfaced on Youtube, with Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1lpW0Wd8U singing the "n-word"]]. This '''really''' didn't go over well with fans and non-fans.
non-fans. (Melon has the word on it and she cant evsn speak english)
** Solar's kiss scene in "Decalcomanie," as detailed on the main page.
page. (Typical trope in most asian and kdramas)
** In 2017, they did a performance of Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk"... [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/mamamoo-did-blackface-at-a-concert-and-theres-not-much-more-to-say-really/ in blackface]]. [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/03/03/rainbow-bridge-world-issue-apology-kinda-for-mamamoos-blackface-skit/ They did apologize]], but the damage has been done. (Apologized in under 12 hours, directing apology towards black community, subsequently better than other kpop groups with vague apologies)
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* BrokenBase: A minor one - are the girls' "beagle" personalities refreshing and cute, or are they going way over the top in an attempt to be relatable and instead being obnoxious and grating?


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* AllStarCast: As part of the year-end music festivals for 2015, Solar and Wheein took part in special ensemble stages featuring other singers.
** Solar [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNTa7VxHzQ performed]] with Choa of Music/{{AOA}} and Solji of Music/{{EXID}}.
** She also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC9caaop5U performed]] with Music/APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an episode of Inkigayo.
** Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong of {{Music/AOA}}.
** Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fWZdM1J-ik filled in]] for Yuk Jidam for a performance of ''Ice Ice'' with {{Music/Hyuna}}
* EarWorm: Like any other pop group, their songs tend to be quite catchy.

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* AllStarCast: As part of the year-end music festivals for 2015, Solar and Wheein took part in special ensemble stages featuring other singers.
** Solar [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNTa7VxHzQ performed]] with Choa of Music/{{AOA}} and Solji of Music/{{EXID}}.
** She also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC9caaop5U performed]] with Music/APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an episode of Inkigayo.
** Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong of {{Music/AOA}}.
** Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fWZdM1J-ik filled in]] for Yuk Jidam for a performance of ''Ice Ice'' with {{Music/Hyuna}}
* EarWorm: Like any other pop group, their songs tend to be quite catchy.catchy, such as the "Mamamoo" line in "Mr Ambiguous" and the chorus hook of "Oh Um Oh Yeah".



* TheLoad: Fans have complained that Moonbyul spends the majority of the time just awkwardly standing there except for her brief rap segments during their slower and singing-oriented appearances on ''Immortal Song'', even though she has shown to be a decent singer in the past. It is important to note, however, that even though Moonbyul ''can'' sing, she has said she gets nervous to sing in front of crowds, and is just happy to rap and provide vocal harmonies to support the other members' singing.



* PintSizedPowerhouse: All of Mamamoo are 161 (5'3") cm or shorter. Although this trope is meant more for feats of physical strength, it's no question that the girls are powerful in other areas such as vocal and rap ability.
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* PintSizedPowerhouse: All of Mamamoo are 161 (5'3") cm or shorter. Although this trope is meant more for feats of physical strength, it's no question that the girls are powerful in other areas such as vocal and rap ability.
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** International fans squeed when Creator/ChloeMoretz [[http://onehallyu.com/topic/294357-chloe-moretz-became-a-huge-mamamoo-fan-videotweets/ announced her love for Mamamoo]].
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** Fans have pointed out how Hwasa and Moonbyul appropriate cornrows whenever they do a rap/hip stage but in the Ahh Oop! MV, an afro and dreadlocks are seen as part a montage of "ridiculous" hairstyles. Kind of...not a good look for the girls.

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** Fans have pointed out how Hwasa and Moonbyul appropriate cornrows and braids whenever they do a rap/hip rap/hip-hop stage but in the Ahh Oop! MV, an afro and dreadlocks are seen as part a montage of "ridiculous" hairstyles. Kind of...not a good look for the girls.

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** She also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC9caaop5U performed]] with APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an episode of Inkigayo.
** Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong, also from AOA.

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** She also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC9caaop5U performed]] with APink's Music/APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an episode of Inkigayo.
** Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong, also from AOA.Hyejeong of {{Music/AOA}}.
** Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fWZdM1J-ik filled in]] for Yuk Jidam for a performance of ''Ice Ice'' with {{Music/Hyuna}}


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* InternetBackdraft: Oh boy.
** Wheein often mocking Hwasa's skin tone in colorist tones. (Example: referring to Hwasa as [[https://www.instagram.com/p/4bitnsB5fY/ "black unnie"]] whilst referring to herself as "white unnie", likening Hwasa's tan skin to that of a black Egyptian, etc.)
** Fans have pointed out how Hwasa and Moonbyul appropriate cornrows whenever they do a rap/hip stage but in the Ahh Oop! MV, an afro and dreadlocks are seen as part a montage of "ridiculous" hairstyles. Kind of...not a good look for the girls.
** In summer 2015, Wheein went on a fancafe and [[http://choisiwonthirstprincess.tumblr.com/post/121933966807/can-you-explain-the-mamamoo-hwasa-and-wheein-thing mocked Hwasa's hairstyle]] for their comeback by using [[http://suluism.tumblr.com/post/121826668955/why-do-you-find-whee-in-post-racist a picture of a black man]] [[http://whitewashedkpop.tumblr.com/post/121878619918/babyladiesshow-i-have-no-idea-if-any-black-kpop with curly hair]].
** In early 2016, a video of Hwasa singing {{Music/Beyonce}}'s Irreplaceable surfaced on Youtube, with Hwasa [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1lpW0Wd8U singing the "n-word"]]. This '''really''' didn't go over well with fans and non-fans.

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It says quite clearly on the page for And The Fandom Rejoiced not to link to it. It is for in-universe examples and links from the descriptions at the beginning of related trope pages only. Also fixing incorrectly indented examples. And the moments haven't been called "crowning" for years.


* AllStarCast:
** As part of the year-end music festivals for 2015, Solar and Wheein took part in special ensemble stages featuring other singers.
*** Solar [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNTa7VxHzQ performed]] with Choa of Music/{{AOA}} and Solji of Music/{{EXID}}.
*** She also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC9caaop5U performed]] with APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an episode of Inkigayo.
*** Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong, also from AOA.
* AndTheFandomRejoiced: For Moonbyul fans who had been clamoring to hear her singing more than a line or two, the release of this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNBJ6A-pVq0 clip]] of her singing was a bright day.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** Their first music show win, which came on Inkigayo whilst promoting "You're the Best."
** Winning on ''Immortal Songs'' has also been a big deal and cause for rejoicing among [=MooMoos=] everywhere, whether it was winning the vote for one performance, or for winning the whole show.
** It's funny on a meta level too - it's completely unlike anything they've done before and had fans working themselves into a tizzy over it.

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* AllStarCast:
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AllStarCast: As part of the year-end music festivals for 2015, Solar and Wheein took part in special ensemble stages featuring other singers.
*** ** Solar [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNTa7VxHzQ performed]] with Choa of Music/{{AOA}} and Solji of Music/{{EXID}}.
*** ** She also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC9caaop5U performed]] with APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an episode of Inkigayo.
*** ** Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong, also from AOA.
* AndTheFandomRejoiced: For Moonbyul fans who had been clamoring to hear her singing more than a line or two, the release of this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNBJ6A-pVq0 clip]] of her singing was a bright day.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** Their first music show win, which came on Inkigayo whilst promoting "You're the Best."
** Winning on ''Immortal Songs'' has also been a big deal and cause for rejoicing among [=MooMoos=] everywhere, whether it was winning the vote for one performance, or for winning the whole show.
** It's funny on a meta level too - it's completely unlike anything they've done before and had fans working themselves into a tizzy over it.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
** Their first music show win, which came on Inkigayo whilst promoting "You're the Best."
** Winning on ''Immortal Songs'' has also been a big deal and cause for rejoicing among [=MooMoos=] everywhere, whether it was winning the vote for one performance, or for winning the whole show.
** It's funny on a meta level too - it's completely unlike anything they've done before and had fans working themselves into a tizzy over it.

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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: For Moonbyul fans who had been clamoring to hear her singing more than a line or two, the release of this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNBJ6A-pVq0 clip]] of her singing was a bright day.



* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Their song/MV for "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSeFpYX4H0 Pride of 1 CM]]", which is basically [[https://moomoomanual.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/lyrics-1cm%EC%9D%98-%EC%9E%90%EC%A1%B4%EC%8B%AC-taller-than-you/ Moonbyul bragging about being the tallest member of the group (by one centimetre), and jokingly making fun of "dwarf" Wheein.]]

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*** She also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC9caaop5U performed]] with APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an episode of Inkigayo.



** Solar will also be performing with APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an upcoming episode of Inkigayo.
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* TheLoad: One criticism for some of their slower and singing-oriented appearances on ''Immortal Song'', is that Moonbyul spends the majority of the time just standing there except for her brief rap segments, even though she has shown to be a decent singer in the past. It is important to note, however, that even though Moonbyul ''can'' sing, she has said she gets nervous to sing in front of crowds, and is just happy to rap and provide vocal harmonies to support the other members' singing.

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* TheLoad: One criticism Fans have complained that Moonbyul spends the majority of the time just awkwardly standing there except for some of her brief rap segments during their slower and singing-oriented appearances on ''Immortal Song'', is that Moonbyul spends the majority of the time just standing there except for her brief rap segments, even though she has shown to be a decent singer in the past. It is important to note, however, that even though Moonbyul ''can'' sing, she has said she gets nervous to sing in front of crowds, and is just happy to rap and provide vocal harmonies to support the other members' singing.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** Their first music show win, which came on Inkigayo whilst promoting "You're the Best."
** Winning on ''Immortal Songs'' has also been a big deal and cause for rejoicing among [=MooMoos=] everywhere, whether it was winning the vote for one performance, or for winning the whole show.

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* LesYay: The group is quite famous for being... Close. The most popular pairing by far is the "Sky Couple" (Moonbyul/Solar), followed by the "Wine Couple" (Wha(Sa) +(Whee) In).

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* LesYay: The group is quite famous for being... Close. close. The most popular pairing by far is the "Sky Couple" (Moonbyul/Solar), followed by the "Wine Couple" (Wha(Sa) +(Whee) In).In).
* TheLoad: One criticism for some of their slower and singing-oriented appearances on ''Immortal Song'', is that Moonbyul spends the majority of the time just standing there except for her brief rap segments, even though she has shown to be a decent singer in the past. It is important to note, however, that even though Moonbyul ''can'' sing, she has said she gets nervous to sing in front of crowds, and is just happy to rap and provide vocal harmonies to support the other members' singing.

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* AllStarCast: As part of the year-end music festivals for 2015, Solar and Wheein took part in special ensemble stages featuring other singers. Solar [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNTa7VxHzQ performed]] with Choa of Music/{{AOA}} and Solji of Music/{{EXID}}. Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong, also from AOA.

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As part of the year-end music festivals for 2015, Solar and Wheein took part in special ensemble stages featuring other singers. singers.
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Solar [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNTa7VxHzQ performed]] with Choa of Music/{{AOA}} and Solji of Music/{{EXID}}. Music/{{EXID}}.
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Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong, also from AOA.AOA.
** Solar will also be performing with APink's Eunji, Music/{{fx}}'s Luna and soloist Ailee on an upcoming episode of Inkigayo.
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* AllStarCast: As part of the year-end music festivals for 2015, Solar and Wheein took part in special ensemble stages featuring other singers. Solar [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNTa7VxHzQ performed]] with Choa of Music/{{AOA}} and Solji of Music/{{EXID}}. Wheein [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOA3MYCOJY performed]] with Bomi of Music/APink and Hyejeong, also from AOA.
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* LesYay: The group is quite famous for being... Close. The most popular pairing by far is the "Sky Couple" (Moonbyul/Solar), followed by the "Wine Couple" (Wha(Sa) +(Whee) In).
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Their song/MV for "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSeFpYX4H0 Pride of 1 CM]]", which is basically Moonbyul bragging about being the tallest member of the group (by one centimetre), and jokingly making fun of "dwarf" Wheein.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Their song/MV for "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSeFpYX4H0 Pride of 1 CM]]", which is basically [[https://moomoomanual.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/lyrics-1cm%EC%9D%98-%EC%9E%90%EC%A1%B4%EC%8B%AC-taller-than-you/ Moonbyul bragging about being the tallest member of the group (by one centimetre), and jokingly making fun of "dwarf" Wheein. Wheein.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Their song/MV for "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSeFpYX4H0 Pride of 1 CM]]", which is basically Moonbyul bragging about being the tallest member of the group (by one centimetre), and jokingly making fun of "dwarf" Wheein.
** It's funny on a meta level too - it's completely unlike anything they've done before and had fans working themselves into a tizzy over it.
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* EarWorm: Like any other pop group, their songs tend to be quite catchy.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: One commonly-heard criticism of "Um Oh Ah Yeah" is that Mamamoo strayed from the retro sound established in their earlier singles to make a more public-friendly song.

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