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** When discussing his idea of Heaven, in which all people will already know their futures ahead of time, Pucci argues that Jesus was always fated to die on the cross as an example of the power of inevitability. Pucci is citing [[AsTheGoodBookSays Biblical doctriness]] in which Jesus was able to prophecize his eventual torture and crucifixion, while nevertheless going to it willingly.
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** When discussing his idea of Heaven, in which all people will already know their futures ahead of time, Pucci argues that Jesus was always fated to die on the cross as an example of the power of inevitability. Pucci He is citing [[AsTheGoodBookSays Biblical doctriness]] in which Jesus was able to prophecize his eventual torture and crucifixion, while nevertheless going to it willingly.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Yong Yea has had limited voice acting roles and is mostly known for his video game commentaries on [=YouTube=], and while him being cast as the dubbed voice of Enrico Pucci was mostly accepted by fans due to him being an avid ''[=JoJo=]'' fan, when the first third of ''Stone Ocean'' was released on Netflix, some felt he sounded a bit awkward compared to the other dub actors. However, many agreed that he came around to the role during the final third as he effectively sold Pucci's increasing SanitySlippage, [[spoiler:grief over his late sister and [[StartOfDarkness turn to villainy]] in his flashback,]] and pure ''rage'' when he has his VillainousBreakdown at the end of the series.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Yong Yea Creator/YongYea has had limited voice acting roles and is mostly known for his video game commentaries on [=YouTube=], and while him being cast as the dubbed voice of Enrico Pucci was mostly accepted by fans due to him being an avid ''[=JoJo=]'' fan, when the first third of ''Stone Ocean'' was released on Netflix, some felt he sounded a bit awkward compared to the other dub actors. However, many agreed that he came around to the role during the final third as he effectively sold Pucci's increasing SanitySlippage, [[spoiler:grief over his late sister and [[StartOfDarkness turn to villainy]] in his flashback,]] and pure ''rage'' when he has his VillainousBreakdown at the end of the series.
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** When discussing his idea of Heaven, in which all people will already know their futures ahead of time, Pucci argues that Jesus was always fated to die on the cross as an example of the power of inevitability. Pucci is citing [[AsTheGoodBookSays Biblical doctriness]] in which Jesus was able to prophecize his eventual torture and crucifixion, while nevertheless going to it willingly.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Anasui. Is he a funny and interesting character, or is he an unlikable jerk whose obsession with Jolyne comes off as him being too creepy?
** People tend to be split down the middle on whether or not Stone Free is a good Stand, let alone as the Stand for the part's main [=JoJo=]. Fans of Stone Free point out its [[CoolShades cool design]], creative utilities with its string abilities, and how unconventional it is compared to other main [=JoJo=] Stands that often rely on RapidFireFisticuffs, whereas those who don't like Stone Free cite said unconventionality as why it's a boring Stand for a main lead, as its combat capabilities aren't as pronounced as they could've been. The fact that Stone Free's power was reused in [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolion Part 8]] with Rai Mamezuku's Doggy Style also doesn't help matters.
** Anasui. Is he a funny and interesting character, or is he an unlikable jerk whose obsession with Jolyne comes off as him being too creepy?
** People tend to be split down the middle on whether or not Stone Free is a good Stand, let alone as the Stand for the part's main [=JoJo=]. Fans of Stone Free point out its [[CoolShades cool design]], creative utilities with its string abilities, and how unconventional it is compared to other main [=JoJo=] Stands that often rely on RapidFireFisticuffs, whereas those who don't like Stone Free cite said unconventionality as why it's a boring Stand for a main lead, as its combat capabilities aren't as pronounced as they could've been. The fact that Stone Free's power was reused in [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolion Part 8]] with Rai Mamezuku's Doggy Style also doesn't help matters.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Anasui.BaseBreakingCharacter: Anasui, big time. Is he a funny and interesting character, whose creepy crush on Jolyne is hilarious due to the way everyone blows him off over it, or is he an unlikable jerk whose obsession with Jolyne comes off as him being too creepy?
** People tend''too'' creepy to be split down the middle on whether or not Stone Free is a good Stand, let alone as the Stand for the part's main [=JoJo=]. Fans of Stone Free point out its [[CoolShades cool design]], creative utilities with its string abilities, and how unconventional it is compared to other main [=JoJo=] Stands that often rely on RapidFireFisticuffs, whereas those who don't like Stone Free cite said unconventionality as why it's a boring Stand for a main lead, as its combat capabilities aren't as pronounced as they could've been. The fact that Stone Free's power was reused in [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolion Part 8]] with Rai Mamezuku's Doggy Style also doesn't help matters.of annoying?
** Anasui.
** People tend
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** Pucci's relationship with DIO is often questioned by many readers. The canon suggests DIO's HomoeroticSubtext with Pucci was him tempting him, just to see if he could be the "friend" he was looking for, not tempted by carnal desires, meaning that by all intents Pucci should be asexual... however, their relationship is so incredibly [[HoYay homoerotic]], even by ''[=JoJo=]'' standards, that many fans heavily doubt this and question what exactly was DIO looking for on him.
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** Pucci's relationship with DIO is often questioned by many readers. The canon suggests DIO's HomoeroticSubtext with Pucci was him tempting him, just to see if he could be the "friend" he was looking for, not tempted by carnal desires, meaning that by all intents Pucci should be asexual... however, their relationship is so incredibly [[HoYay homoerotic]], even by ''[=JoJo=]'' standards, that many fans heavily doubt this and question what exactly was DIO looking for on in him.
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*** On a similar note: [[spoiler:there isn't an explicit reason why the violently racist detective wasn't hostile to Pucci, despite his appearance; a fact considered as one of the most infamous ''[=JoJo=]'' plotholes. As such, the most widely-accepted headcanon is that the detective simply ignored Pucci's race due to [[YouAreACreditToYourRace his priestly status]], although this one is still not without its own issues due to the KKK's violent hatred of Catholics. A further headcanon is that, regardless of if the detective might've hated Pucci, he was wealthy and far too respected by the community to dare take action against compared to Wes's working-class background. Also could've helped that he's benefiting off him regardless.]]
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*** On a similar note: [[spoiler:there isn't an explicit reason why the violently racist detective wasn't hostile to Pucci, despite his appearance; a fact considered as one of the most infamous ''[=JoJo=]'' plotholes. As such, the most widely-accepted headcanon is that the detective simply ignored Pucci's race due to [[YouAreACreditToYourRace his priestly status]], although this one is still not without its own issues due to the KKK's violent hatred of Catholics. A further headcanon is that, regardless of if the detective might've hated Pucci, he was wealthy and far too respected by the community to dare take action against compared to Wes's Wes' working-class background. Also could've helped that he's benefiting off him regardless.]]
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*** On a similar note: [[spoiler:there isn't an explicit reason why the violently racist detective wasn't hostile to Pucci, despite his appearance; a fact considered as one of the most infamous ''[=JoJo=]'' plotholes. As such, the most widely-accepted headcanon is that the detective simply ignored Pucci's race due to [[YouAreACreditToYourRace his priestly status]], although this one is still not without its own issues due to the KKK's violent hatred of Catholics. A further headcanon is that, regardless of if the detective might've hated Pucci, he was wealthy and far too respected by the community to dare take action against. Also could've helped that he's benefiting off him regardless.]]
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*** On a similar note: [[spoiler:there isn't an explicit reason why the violently racist detective wasn't hostile to Pucci, despite his appearance; a fact considered as one of the most infamous ''[=JoJo=]'' plotholes. As such, the most widely-accepted headcanon is that the detective simply ignored Pucci's race due to [[YouAreACreditToYourRace his priestly status]], although this one is still not without its own issues due to the KKK's violent hatred of Catholics. A further headcanon is that, regardless of if the detective might've hated Pucci, he was wealthy and far too respected by the community to dare take action against.against compared to Wes's working-class background. Also could've helped that he's benefiting off him regardless.]]
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** Pucci's relationship with DIO is often questioned by many readers. The canon suggests DIO's HomoeroticSubtext with Pucci was him tempting him, just to see if he could be the "friend" he was looking for, not tempted by carnal desires, meaning that by all intents Pucci should be asexual... however, their relationship is so incredibly [[HoYay homoerotic]] even by ''Jojo'' standards that many fans heavily doubt this and question what exactly was DIO looking for on him.
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** Pucci's relationship with DIO is often questioned by many readers. The canon suggests DIO's HomoeroticSubtext with Pucci was him tempting him, just to see if he could be the "friend" he was looking for, not tempted by carnal desires, meaning that by all intents Pucci should be asexual... however, their relationship is so incredibly [[HoYay homoerotic]] homoerotic]], even by ''Jojo'' standards ''[=JoJo=]'' standards, that many fans heavily doubt this and question what exactly was DIO looking for on him.
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** Pucci's relationship with DIO is often questioned by many readers. The canon suggests DIO's HomoeroticSubtext with Pucci was him tempting him, just to see if he could be the "friend" he was looking for, not tempted by carnal desires, meaning that by all intents Pucci should be asexual... however, even by HoYay standards, many fans heavily doubt this, and question what exactly was DIO looking for on him.
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** Pucci's relationship with DIO is often questioned by many readers. The canon suggests DIO's HomoeroticSubtext with Pucci was him tempting him, just to see if he could be the "friend" he was looking for, not tempted by carnal desires, meaning that by all intents Pucci should be asexual... however, their relationship is so incredibly [[HoYay homoerotic]] even by HoYay standards, ''Jojo'' standards that many fans heavily doubt this, this and question what exactly was DIO looking for on him.
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** In the manga, while playing catch, Jolyne randomly says that F.F. throws, "like a queer",[[note]]In the original Japanese, she describes F.F. as looking like an "okama" (a Japanese-language slur interchangeably referring to CampGay or otherwise effeminate men, crossdressers, and trans women), which was changed in the tankobon release to the more neutral "gei" (which is more associated with MachoCamp or ManlyGay men).[[/note]] something that would probably be commonplace in the West (especially among hardened delinquents like Jolyne) in the early 2000s, the time of release, as well as 2011, when the story takes place, but would probably be quite a no-no since at least 2014. This phrase is even more confusing given the story's own hints about Jolyne being AmbiguouslyBi, if her reaction to [[spoiler:Heavy Weather's snails]] is any indication. Possibly aware of this fact, David Production opted to leave the line out of the anime. However, there is still a nod to this dialogue in the first opening, "STONE OCEAN", which features [[VisualPun a rainbow over F.F. throwing a baseball]].
** Despite being one of the heroes, Anasui is shown to be an unstable {{Yandere}} with Jolyne (not to mention his murder of his previous girlfriend and the man she was cheating on him with), and is accordingly made the [[ButtMonkey butt of jokes]] whenever he tries to get with her. But the culmination of his and her arc is [[spoiler:his reincarnation getting with Jolyne/Irene in the new universe and preparing to marry her. While it can be assumed that he's probably nicer in this new universe (given that he's not in prison), there's still the fact that he's a 25-year-old man marrying a 19-year old, an age difference that's not inappropriate but would certainly raise a few eyebrows among modern readers, not to mention the implication that this is the ending he deserves for pursuing an uninterested girl, hero or not. Somewhat lessened by the fact that Irene is shown to be into him too, as well as everything they went through together in the previous universe, but it's still something that modern audiences may find skeevy]].
** In the manga, while playing catch, Jolyne randomly says that F.F. throws, "like a queer",[[note]]In the original Japanese, she describes F.F. as looking like an "okama" (a Japanese-language slur interchangeably referring to CampGay or otherwise effeminate men, crossdressers, and trans women), which was changed in the tankobon release to the more neutral "gei" (which is more associated with MachoCamp or ManlyGay men).[[/note]] something that would probably be commonplace in the West (especially among hardened delinquents like Jolyne) in the early 2000s, the time of release, as well as 2011, when the story takes place, but would probably be quite a no-no since at least 2014. This phrase is even more confusing given the story's own hints about Jolyne being AmbiguouslyBi, if her reaction to [[spoiler:Heavy Weather's snails]] is any indication. Possibly aware of this fact, David Production opted to leave the line out of the anime. However, there is still a nod to this dialogue in the first opening, "STONE OCEAN", which features [[VisualPun a rainbow over F.F. throwing a baseball]].
** Despite being one of the heroes, Anasui is shown to be an unstable {{Yandere}} with Jolyne (not to mention his murder of his previous girlfriend and the man she was cheating on him with), and is accordingly made the [[ButtMonkey butt of jokes]] whenever he tries to get with her. But the culmination of his and her arc is [[spoiler:his reincarnation getting with Jolyne/Irene in the new universe and preparing to marry her. While it can be assumed that he's probably nicer in this new universe (given that he's not in prison), there's still the fact that he's a 25-year-old man marrying a 19-year old, an age difference that's not inappropriate but would certainly raise a few eyebrows among modern readers, not to mention the implication that this is the ending he deserves for pursuing an uninterested girl, hero or not. Somewhat lessened by the fact that Irene is shown to be into him too, as well as everything they went through together in the previous universe, but it's still something that modern audiences may find skeevy]].
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* ValuesDissonance:
**ValuesDissonance: In the manga, while playing catch, Jolyne randomly says that F.F. throws, "like a queer",[[note]]In the original Japanese, she describes F.F. as looking like an "okama" (a Japanese-language slur interchangeably referring to CampGay or otherwise effeminate men, crossdressers, and trans women), which was changed in the tankobon release to the more neutral "gei" (which is more associated with MachoCamp or ManlyGay men).[[/note]] something that would probably be commonplace in the West (especially among hardened delinquents like Jolyne) in the early 2000s, the time of release, as well as 2011, when the story takes place, but would probably be quite a no-no since at least 2014. This phrase is even more confusing given the story's own hints about Jolyne being AmbiguouslyBi, if her reaction to [[spoiler:Heavy Weather's snails]] is any indication. Possibly aware of this fact, David Production opted to leave the line out of the anime. However, there is still a nod to this dialogue in the first opening, "STONE OCEAN", which features [[VisualPun a rainbow over F.F. throwing a baseball]].
** Despite being one of the heroes, Anasui is shown to be an unstable {{Yandere}} with Jolyne (not to mention his murder of his previous girlfriend and the man she was cheating on him with), and is accordingly made the [[ButtMonkey butt of jokes]] whenever he tries to get with her. But the culmination of his and her arc is [[spoiler:his reincarnation getting with Jolyne/Irene in the new universe and preparing to marry her. While it can be assumed that he's probably nicer in this new universe (given that he's not in prison), there's still the fact that he's a 25-year-old man marrying a 19-year old, an age difference that's not inappropriate but would certainly raise a few eyebrows among modern readers, not to mention the implication that this is the ending he deserves for pursuing an uninterested girl, hero or not. Somewhat lessened by the fact that Irene is shown to be into him too, as well as everything they went through together in the previous universe, but it's still something that modern audiences may find skeevy]].baseball]].
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** Despite being one of the heroes, Anasui is shown to be an unstable {{Yandere}} with Jolyne (not to mention his murder of his previous girlfriend and the man she was cheating on him with), and is accordingly made the [[ButtMonkey butt of jokes]] whenever he tries to get with her. But the culmination of his and her arc is [[spoiler:his reincarnation getting with Jolyne/Irene in the new universe and preparing to marry her. While it can be assumed that he's probably nicer in this new universe (given that he's not in prison), there's still the fact that he's a 25-year-old man marrying a 19-year old, an age difference that's not inappropriate but would certainly raise a few eyebrows among modern readers, not to mention the implication that this is the ending he deserves for pursuing an uninterested girl, hero or not. Somewhat lessened by the fact that Irene is shown to be into him too, as well as everything they went through together in the previous universe, but it's still something that modern audiences may find skeevy]].
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Yong Yea has had limited voice acting roles and is mostly known for his video game commentaries on [=YouTube=], and while him being cast as the dubbed voice of Enrico Pucci was mostly accepted by fans due to him being an avid ''[=JoJo=]'' fan, when the first third of ''Stone Ocean'' was released on Netflix, some felt like he sounded a bit awkward compared to the other dub actors. However, many agreed that he came around to the role during the final third as he effectively sold Pucci's increasing SanitySlippage, [[spoiler:grief over his late sister and [[StartOfDarkness turn to villainy]] in his flashback,]] and pure ''rage'' when he has his VillainousBreakdown at the end of the series.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Yong Yea has had limited voice acting roles and is mostly known for his video game commentaries on [=YouTube=], and while him being cast as the dubbed voice of Enrico Pucci was mostly accepted by fans due to him being an avid ''[=JoJo=]'' fan, when the first third of ''Stone Ocean'' was released on Netflix, some felt like he sounded a bit awkward compared to the other dub actors. However, many agreed that he came around to the role during the final third as he effectively sold Pucci's increasing SanitySlippage, [[spoiler:grief over his late sister and [[StartOfDarkness turn to villainy]] in his flashback,]] and pure ''rage'' when he has his VillainousBreakdown at the end of the series.
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** Gwess and Miraschon are nasty pieces of work who use their powers to torment Jolyne. They also happen to be very attractive women, a fact which they flaunt [[BareYourMidriff with their clothing choices]].
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** Gwess and Miraschon are nasty pieces of work who use their powers to torment Jolyne. They also happen to be very attractive women, a fact which they flaunt [[BareYourMidriff with their clothing choices]].choices.
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* ValuesResonance: Despite being released in Japan during a time where worldwide, the portrayal of trans people in media was still not being taken very seriously, the (manga-only, although he potentially appears in the background of Loccobarocco's lecture in the anime) trans male inmate that Jolyne encounters at Green Dolphin is shown to be just as buff and handsome as any cis male ''[=JoJo=]'' character, rather than some offensive caricature. There is the fact that he's being sent to a women's prison and the fact that the staff refer to him with female pronouns, but given that Green Dolphin isn't shown to have much care for its inmates in the first place, this can be chalked up to DeliberateValuesDissonance. In addition, Jolyne treats him with quizzical wonder, even proclaiming him as being "the dawn of a new era", rather than the absolute disgust seen at the same time in many Western works trying to riff off of ''Film/TheCryingGame''. With anti-trans "bathroom bills" becoming an increasingly hot topic in the late 2010's and 2020's, the scene can also be interpreted as a criticism of purely sex-based segregation[[note]]Whose proponents usually focus on putting trans women into male spaces, so flipping the genders involved by showing a passing trans man being forced into a female-only space where he clearly doesn't belong highlights the absurdity of these beliefs[[/note]], which is still an extremely progressive message even decades after the chapter's release.
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* ValuesResonance: Despite being released in Japan during a time where worldwide, the portrayal of trans people in media was still not being taken very seriously, the (manga-only, although he potentially appears in the background of Loccobarocco's lecture in the anime) trans male inmate that Jolyne encounters at Green Dolphin is shown to be just as buff and handsome as any cis male ''[=JoJo=]'' character, rather than some offensive caricature. There is the fact that he's being sent to a women's prison and the fact that the staff refer to him with female pronouns, but given that Green Dolphin isn't shown to have much care for its inmates in the first place, this can be chalked up to DeliberateValuesDissonance. In addition, Jolyne treats him with quizzical wonder, even proclaiming him as being "the dawn of a new era", rather than the absolute disgust seen at the same time in many Western works trying to riff off of ''Film/TheCryingGame''. With anti-trans "bathroom bills" becoming an increasingly hot topic in the late 2010's and 2020's, the scene can also be interpreted as a criticism of purely sex-based segregation[[note]]Whose segregation[[note]]whose proponents usually focus on putting trans women into male spaces, so flipping the genders involved by showing a passing trans man being forced into a female-only space where he clearly doesn't belong highlights the absurdity of these beliefs[[/note]], which is still an extremely progressive message even decades after the chapter's release.
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** The removal of [[spoiler: any and all references to the KKK]] in the third batch of the anime wasn't well-recieved by fans, to say the least. [[spoiler: While the private detective and his "clan" are still stated by the narrator to have heavily prejudiced views, and their brutal beating and attempted lynching of Weather Report is still hard to watch, many fans believed that the anime swapping the KKK's trademark outfits for more casual clothes immensely downplays how horrific and cruel the KKK were (and still are), and lessens the overall emotional impact of the scene. This doesn't even make sense from a pragmatic standpoint, as the entire reason the KKK wear robes and hoods is because they're a secret group no member wants ''anyone'' to know they're a part of, ''especially'' law enforcement. So now, the detective and his posse openly assault/lynch a teenage boy, sexually assault his girlfriend, and burn his mother's house down '''[[StupidCrooks completely undisguised]]'''. It also makes Weather Report's arrest for his murder of the detective go from being a convenient FrameUp by Pucci to a miracle the detective wasn't exposed for his crimes and Weather Report was arrested at all.]]
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** The removal of [[spoiler: any [[spoiler:any and all references to the KKK]] in the third batch of the anime wasn't well-recieved by fans, to say the least. [[spoiler: While [[spoiler:While the private detective and his "clan" are still stated by the narrator to have heavily prejudiced views, and their brutal beating and attempted lynching of Weather Report is still hard to watch, many fans believed that the anime swapping the KKK's trademark outfits for more casual clothes immensely downplays how horrific and cruel the KKK were (and still are), and lessens the overall emotional impact of the scene. This doesn't even make sense from a pragmatic standpoint, as the entire reason the KKK wear robes and hoods is because they're a secret group no member wants ''anyone'' to know they're a part of, ''especially'' law enforcement. So now, the detective and his posse openly assault/lynch a teenage boy, sexually assault his girlfriend, and burn his mother's house down '''[[StupidCrooks completely undisguised]]'''. It also makes Weather Report's arrest for his murder of the detective go from being a convenient FrameUp by Pucci to a miracle the detective wasn't exposed for his crimes and Weather Report was arrested at all.]]
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Adding back the Thunder Mc Queen one. It was removed due to Fan Myopia but I feel it doesn't qualify for this, since it's not really about fans of Cars projecting their views onto Jojo, but rather people in general finding the similar name funny (of any characters named Mc Queen, Lightning is probably the most well known one even to those that didn't watch Cars). Adding it back since it's a commonly seen joke.
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** A rather [[MemeticMutation memetic]] example of this is the suicidal janitor Thunder [=McQueen=], who, while named after fashion designer Alexander [=McQueen=], also has a name strikingly similar to ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Cars}} Lightning McQueen]]'', whose movie actually released several years after ''Stone Ocean''.
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** The removal of [[spoiler: any and all references to the KKK]] in the third batch of the anime wasn't well-recieved by fans, to say the least. [[spoiler: While the private detective and his "clan" are still stated by the narrator to have heavily prejudiced views, and their brutal beating and attempted hanging of Weather Report is still hard to watch, many fans believed that the anime swapping the KKK's trademark outfits for more casual clothes immensely downplays how horrific and cruel the KKK were (and still are), and lessens the overall emotional impact of the scene. This doesn't even make sense from a pragmatic standpoint, as the entire reason the KKK wear robes and hoods is because they're a secret group no member wants ''anyone'' to know they're a part of, ''especially'' law enforcement. So now, the detective and his posse openly assault/lynch a teenage boy, sexually assault his girlfriend, and burn his mother's house down '''[[StupidCrooks completely undisguised]]'''. It also makes Weather Report's arrest for his murder of the detective go from being a convenient FrameUp by Pucci to a miracle the detective wasn't exposed for his crimes and Weather Report was arrested at all.]]
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** The removal of [[spoiler: any and all references to the KKK]] in the third batch of the anime wasn't well-recieved by fans, to say the least. [[spoiler: While the private detective and his "clan" are still stated by the narrator to have heavily prejudiced views, and their brutal beating and attempted hanging lynching of Weather Report is still hard to watch, many fans believed that the anime swapping the KKK's trademark outfits for more casual clothes immensely downplays how horrific and cruel the KKK were (and still are), and lessens the overall emotional impact of the scene. This doesn't even make sense from a pragmatic standpoint, as the entire reason the KKK wear robes and hoods is because they're a secret group no member wants ''anyone'' to know they're a part of, ''especially'' law enforcement. So now, the detective and his posse openly assault/lynch a teenage boy, sexually assault his girlfriend, and burn his mother's house down '''[[StupidCrooks completely undisguised]]'''. It also makes Weather Report's arrest for his murder of the detective go from being a convenient FrameUp by Pucci to a miracle the detective wasn't exposed for his crimes and Weather Report was arrested at all.]]
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** The removal of [[spoiler: any and all references to the KKK]] in the third batch of the anime wasn't well-recieved by fans, to say the least. [[spoiler: While the private detective and his "clan" are still stated by the narrator to have heavily prejudiced views, and their brutal beating and attempted hanging of Weather Report is still hard to watch, many fans believed that the anime swapping the KKK's trademark outfits for more casual clothes immensely downplays how horrific and cruel the KKK were (and still are), and lessens the overall emotional impact of the scene. This doesn't even make sense from a pragmatic standpoint either, as the entire reason the KKK wear robes and hoods is because they're a secret group no member wants ''anyone'' to know they're a part of, ''especially'' law enforcement. So now, the detective and his posse openly assault/lynch a teenage boy, sexually assault his girlfriend, and burn his mother's house down '''[[StupidCrooks completely undisguised]]'''. It also makes Weather Report's arrest for his murder of the detective go from being a convenient FrameUp by Pucci to a miracle the detective wasn't exposed for his cirmes and Weather was arrested at all.]]
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** The removal of [[spoiler: any and all references to the KKK]] in the third batch of the anime wasn't well-recieved by fans, to say the least. [[spoiler: While the private detective and his "clan" are still stated by the narrator to have heavily prejudiced views, and their brutal beating and attempted hanging of Weather Report is still hard to watch, many fans believed that the anime swapping the KKK's trademark outfits for more casual clothes immensely downplays how horrific and cruel the KKK were (and still are), and lessens the overall emotional impact of the scene. This doesn't even make sense from a pragmatic standpoint either, standpoint, as the entire reason the KKK wear robes and hoods is because they're a secret group no member wants ''anyone'' to know they're a part of, ''especially'' law enforcement. So now, the detective and his posse openly assault/lynch a teenage boy, sexually assault his girlfriend, and burn his mother's house down '''[[StupidCrooks completely undisguised]]'''. It also makes Weather Report's arrest for his murder of the detective go from being a convenient FrameUp by Pucci to a miracle the detective wasn't exposed for his cirmes crimes and Weather Report was arrested at all.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Stone Free [[DubNameChange being localized as]] "Stone Ocean" in both the subtitles and the dub is generally agreed to be a poor decision. "Stone Ocean" refers to Green Dolphin Street Prison, so having Jolyne name her Stand after her nickname for the prison itself, rather than her goal to escape from it, makes much less sense.
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** Stone Free [[DubNameChange being localized as]] "Stone Ocean" in both the subtitles and the dub is generally agreed to be a poor decision. "Stone Ocean" refers to Green Dolphin Street Prison, so having Jolyne name her Stand after her nickname for the prison itself, rather than her goal to escape from it, makes much lesssense.sense.
** The removal of [[spoiler: any and all references to the KKK]] in the third batch of the anime wasn't well-recieved by fans, to say the least. [[spoiler: While the private detective and his "clan" are still stated by the narrator to have heavily prejudiced views, and their brutal beating and attempted hanging of Weather Report is still hard to watch, many fans believed that the anime swapping the KKK's trademark outfits for more casual clothes immensely downplays how horrific and cruel the KKK were (and still are), and lessens the overall emotional impact of the scene. This doesn't even make sense from a pragmatic standpoint either, as the entire reason the KKK wear robes and hoods is because they're a secret group no member wants ''anyone'' to know they're a part of, ''especially'' law enforcement. So now, the detective and his posse openly assault/lynch a teenage boy, sexually assault his girlfriend, and burn his mother's house down '''[[StupidCrooks completely undisguised]]'''. It also makes Weather Report's arrest for his murder of the detective go from being a convenient FrameUp by Pucci to a miracle the detective wasn't exposed for his cirmes and Weather was arrested at all.]]
** Stone Free [[DubNameChange being localized as]] "Stone Ocean" in both the subtitles and the dub is generally agreed to be a poor decision. "Stone Ocean" refers to Green Dolphin Street Prison, so having Jolyne name her Stand after her nickname for the prison itself, rather than her goal to escape from it, makes much less
** The removal of [[spoiler: any and all references to the KKK]] in the third batch of the anime wasn't well-recieved by fans, to say the least. [[spoiler: While the private detective and his "clan" are still stated by the narrator to have heavily prejudiced views, and their brutal beating and attempted hanging of Weather Report is still hard to watch, many fans believed that the anime swapping the KKK's trademark outfits for more casual clothes immensely downplays how horrific and cruel the KKK were (and still are), and lessens the overall emotional impact of the scene. This doesn't even make sense from a pragmatic standpoint either, as the entire reason the KKK wear robes and hoods is because they're a secret group no member wants ''anyone'' to know they're a part of, ''especially'' law enforcement. So now, the detective and his posse openly assault/lynch a teenage boy, sexually assault his girlfriend, and burn his mother's house down '''[[StupidCrooks completely undisguised]]'''. It also makes Weather Report's arrest for his murder of the detective go from being a convenient FrameUp by Pucci to a miracle the detective wasn't exposed for his cirmes and Weather was arrested at all.]]
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump ''Stone Ocean'' commercials as well as ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to DIO and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShowHayami in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle All Star Battle]]'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** Before the anime was announced announced, it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump ''Stone Ocean'' commercials as well as ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to DIO and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShowHayami in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle All Star Battle]]'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
** In ''Manga/KaguyaSamaLoveIsWar'', the father of Miyuki Shirogane is voiced by Creator/TakehitoKoyasu, so naturally, DIO references were made up the wazoo, including the idea that Shirogane is another son of DIO. Fast forward to this, and Shirogane's actor, Creator/MakotoFurukawa, voices Rikiel, truly making Shirogane as DIO's son.
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** In ''Manga/KaguyaSamaLoveIsWar'', the father of Miyuki Shirogane is voiced by Creator/TakehitoKoyasu, so naturally, DIO references were made up the wazoo, including the idea that Shirogane is another son of DIO. Fast forward to this, and Shirogane's actor, Creator/MakotoFurukawa, voices Rikiel, truly making Shirogane as DIO's son.
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump ''Stone Ocean'' commercials as well as ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to DIO and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle All Star Battle]]'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump ''Stone Ocean'' commercials as well as ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to DIO and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami Creator/ShowHayami in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle All Star Battle]]'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump ''Stone Ocean'' commercials as well as ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to Dio and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle All Star Battle]]'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump ''Stone Ocean'' commercials as well as ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to Dio DIO and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle All Star Battle]]'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump Stone Ocean commercials as well as ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to Dio and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami in ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump Stone Ocean ''Stone Ocean'' commercials as well as ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven''.''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to Dio and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami in ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle'' ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle All Star Battle]]'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump Stone Ocean commercials as well as ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to Dio and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami in ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** Before the anime was announced it was very common for fans to make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci to fellow villainous SinisterMinister Kirei Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump Stone Ocean commercials as well as ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven''. Come the anime adaptation, Pucci was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who famously voiced Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to Dio and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami in ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle'' ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
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** A rather [[MemeticMutation memetic]] example of this is the suicidal janitor Thunder [=McQueen=], who, while named after fashion designer Alexander [=McQueen=], also has a name strikingly similar to ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Cars}} Lightning McQueen]]'', whose movie actually released several years after ''Stone Ocean''.
** Originally, in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]'', Pucci was voiced by Creator/JojiNakata, who's known for playing fellow SinisterMinister [[Franchise/FateSeries Kirei Kotomine]]. Come the anime adaptation, and Pucci is now revealed to be voiced by Creator/TomokazuSeki, who's best known for playing Koto's [[BigBadDuumvirate partner-in-crime]], Gilgamesh. And before that, he was voiced by Creator/ShowHayami, who was Tokiomi Tohsaka, the liaison between Kotomine and Gilgamesh.
** Originally, in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]'', Pucci was voiced by Creator/JojiNakata, who's known for playing fellow SinisterMinister [[Franchise/FateSeries Kirei Kotomine]]. Come the anime adaptation, and Pucci is now revealed to be voiced by Creator/TomokazuSeki, who's best known for playing Koto's [[BigBadDuumvirate partner-in-crime]], Gilgamesh. And before that, he was voiced by Creator/ShowHayami, who was Tokiomi Tohsaka, the liaison between Kotomine and Gilgamesh.
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** A rather [[MemeticMutation memetic]] example of this is Before the suicidal janitor Thunder [=McQueen=], who, while named after fashion designer Alexander [=McQueen=], also has a name strikingly similar anime was announced it was very common for fans to ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Cars}} Lightning McQueen]]'', whose movie actually released several years after ''Stone Ocean''.
** Originally, in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]'',make jokes, memes, and fanart comparing Enrico Pucci was voiced by Creator/JojiNakata, who's known for playing to fellow villainous SinisterMinister [[Franchise/FateSeries Kirei Kotomine]]. Kotomine from the ''Franchise/FateSeries'', resulting in Kotomine's voice actor Creator/JojiNakata being a very popular fancast for Pucci. Fans eventually got their [[AscendedFanCast wishes]] when Joji Nakata voiced him in the official Ultra Jump Stone Ocean commercials as well as ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven''. Come the anime adaptation, and Pucci is now revealed to be voiced by was recast again, but this time as none other than Creator/TomokazuSeki, who's best known for playing Koto's [[BigBadDuumvirate partner-in-crime]], Gilgamesh. And before that, he was who famously voiced by Creator/ShowHayami, who was Tokiomi Tohsaka, Kotomine's partner-in-crime Gilgamesh, and whose resemblance to Dio and similar levels of HoYay towards Kotomine were one of the liaison between main reasons people started comparing Pucci to the latter in the first place. These castings also had the side effect of accidentally making Pucci's first voice actor being Creator/ShoHayami in ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle'' a lot funnier, since he played Tokiomi, the last member of Kotomine and Gilgamesh.Gilgamesh's triumvirate in ''Anime/FateZero''.
** Originally, in ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]'',
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** The ending, ''big'' time. Was [[spoiler:the universal reset an emotional sendoff to Parts 1 through 6 that acted as a satisfying conclusion to the long saga]]? Or was it a cop-out [[spoiler: that made the wholesale slaughter of the protagonists pointless and felt like a contrived means of concluding the initial continuity]]? The base is split even further on how to ''[[AmbiguousEnding interpret]]'' [[AmbiguousEnding the ending]], with two common interpretations and no middle ground. Some believe that [[spoiler: the universe reset ''again'' after Pucci's death, and that the main cast we see in the ending is just another set of AlternateUniverse counterparts]]. Others believe that [[spoiler: the old universe (or at least an identical AlternateUniverse) was restored, and that the main cast we see is the original cast, [[LossOfIdentity albeit with their experiences of Part 6 gone]]]]. Part 7 doesn't elaborate on it and instead moves to a different continuity, and even WordOfGod has been ambiguous at best[[note]]Though Araki has interchangeably described Jolyne using both her original name and her new name of Irene, implying that the second interpretation has at least some basis[[/note]]. The anime adaptation also appears to believe in the latter interpretation, as it concludes on [[spoiler:a montage of scenes from each part of ''Jojo'' before closing off on a similarly-styled silhouette of the reborn cast, thus implying that all the past parts including Stardust Crusaders still took place as usual and that ''only'' the events of ''Stone Ocean'' were changed [[ForWantOfANail as a result of]] Pucci becoming RetGone, and that Jolyne/Irene's name change symbolizes her liberation from the Joestar curse towards a more peaceful life]].
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** The ending, ''big'' time. Was [[spoiler:the universal reset an emotional sendoff to Parts 1 through 6 that acted as a satisfying conclusion to the long saga]]? Or was it a cop-out [[spoiler: that made the wholesale slaughter of the protagonists pointless and felt like a contrived means of concluding the initial continuity]]? The base is split even further on how to ''[[AmbiguousEnding interpret]]'' [[AmbiguousEnding the ending]], with two common interpretations and no middle ground. Some believe that [[spoiler: the universe reset ''again'' after Pucci's death, and that the main cast we see in the ending is just another set of AlternateUniverse counterparts]]. Others believe that [[spoiler: the old universe (or at least an identical AlternateUniverse) was restored, and that the main cast we see is the original cast, [[LossOfIdentity albeit with their experiences of Part 6 gone]]]]. Part 7 doesn't elaborate on it and instead moves to a different continuity, and even WordOfGod has been ambiguous at best[[note]]Though Araki has interchangeably described Jolyne using both her original name and her new name of Irene, implying that the second interpretation has at least some basis[[/note]]. The anime adaptation also appears to believe in the latter interpretation, as it concludes on [[spoiler:a montage of scenes from each part of ''Jojo'' ''[=JoJo=]'' before closing off on a similarly-styled silhouette of the reborn cast, thus implying that all the past parts parts, including Stardust Crusaders ''Stardust Crusaders'', still took place as usual and that ''only'' the events of ''Stone Ocean'' were changed [[ForWantOfANail as a result of]] Pucci becoming RetGone, and that Jolyne/Irene's name change symbolizes her liberation from the Joestar curse towards a more peaceful life]].
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** Weather Report [[spoiler:shooting himself]] under [[ArtInitiatesLife Bohemian Rhapsody]]'s influence becomes harder to watch after [[spoiler:his backstory shows that he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] multiple times out of despair after his sister died, only failing because [[WeatherManipulation his powers]] bungled each attempt]]
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** Weather Report [[spoiler:shooting himself]] under [[ArtInitiatesLife Bohemian Rhapsody]]'s influence becomes harder to watch after [[spoiler:his backstory shows that he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] multiple times out of despair after his sister died, only failing because [[WeatherManipulation his powers]] bungled each attempt]]attempt]].
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** The ending, ''big'' time. Was [[spoiler:the universal reset an emotional sendoff to Parts 1 through 6 that acted as a satisfying conclusion to the long saga]]? Or was it a cop-out [[spoiler: that made the wholesale slaughter of the protagonists pointless and felt like a contrived means of concluding the initial continuity]]? The base is split even further on how to ''[[AmbiguousEnding interpret]]'' [[AmbiguousEnding the ending]], with two common interpretations and no middle ground. Some believe that [[spoiler: the universe reset ''again'' after Pucci's death, and that the main cast we see in the ending is just another set of AlternateUniverse counterparts]]. Others believe that [[spoiler: the old universe (or at least an identical AlternateUniverse) was restored, and that the main cast we see is the original cast, [[LossOfIdentity albeit with their experiences of Part 6 gone]]]]. Part 7 doesn't elaborate on it and instead moves to a different continuity, and even WordOfGod has been ambiguous at best[[note]]Though Araki has interchangeably described Jolyne using both her original name and her new name of Irene, implying that the second interpretation has at least some basis[[/note]].
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** The ending, ''big'' time. Was [[spoiler:the universal reset an emotional sendoff to Parts 1 through 6 that acted as a satisfying conclusion to the long saga]]? Or was it a cop-out [[spoiler: that made the wholesale slaughter of the protagonists pointless and felt like a contrived means of concluding the initial continuity]]? The base is split even further on how to ''[[AmbiguousEnding interpret]]'' [[AmbiguousEnding the ending]], with two common interpretations and no middle ground. Some believe that [[spoiler: the universe reset ''again'' after Pucci's death, and that the main cast we see in the ending is just another set of AlternateUniverse counterparts]]. Others believe that [[spoiler: the old universe (or at least an identical AlternateUniverse) was restored, and that the main cast we see is the original cast, [[LossOfIdentity albeit with their experiences of Part 6 gone]]]]. Part 7 doesn't elaborate on it and instead moves to a different continuity, and even WordOfGod has been ambiguous at best[[note]]Though Araki has interchangeably described Jolyne using both her original name and her new name of Irene, implying that the second interpretation has at least some basis[[/note]]. The anime adaptation also appears to believe in the latter interpretation, as it concludes on [[spoiler:a montage of scenes from each part of ''Jojo'' before closing off on a similarly-styled silhouette of the reborn cast, thus implying that all the past parts including Stardust Crusaders still took place as usual and that ''only'' the events of ''Stone Ocean'' were changed [[ForWantOfANail as a result of]] Pucci becoming RetGone, and that Jolyne/Irene's name change symbolizes her liberation from the Joestar curse towards a more peaceful life]].
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** Weather Report [[spoiler:shooting himself]] under [[ArtInitiatesLife Bohemian Rhapsody]]'s influence becomes harder to watch after [[spoiler:his backstory shows that he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] multiple times out of despair after his sister died, only failing because [[WeatherManipulation
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** Weather Report [[spoiler:shooting himself]] under [[ArtInitiatesLife Bohemian Rhapsody]]'s influence becomes harder to watch after [[spoiler:his backstory shows that he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] multiple times out of despair after his sister died, only failing because [[WeatherManipulation his powers]] bungled each attempt]]
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** The Under World arc references a fictional plane crash that happens in Florida in July 2005 that had only two survivors. [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Equatorial_Express_Airlines_An-24_crash A real-life plane crash that left only two survivors happened in July 2005]], though it happened in Equatorial Guinea rather than Florida.
** Although ''Stone Ocean'' takes place in Florida, having it be set in 2011 while the final battle takes place in the middle of roaring waves can get a little bit disturbing when one remembers the 2011 earthquake and tsunami in Japan, especially since it's the country where the series was created.
** Anasui murdering his girlfriend for cheating on him, already hard to stomach as is, becomes this when realizing that his voice actor, Creator/DaisukeNamikawa, had been in an affair against his wife with an employee from his agency for 13 years, who was only a ''[[{{Squick}} teenager]]'' when they first met.
** Weather Report [[spoiler:shooting himself]] under [[ArtInitiatesLife Bohemian Rhapsody]]'s influence becomes harder to watch after [[spoiler:his backstory shows that he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] multiple times out of despair after his sister died, only failing because [[WeatherManipulation his powers]] bungled each attempt]].
** Around the same time that the second half of the anime adaptation was announced, Music/FooFighters' drummer, Taylor Hawkins, was reported dead. [[spoiler:It hurts even more when considering F.F.'s [[KilledOffForReal ultimate fate]] [[DeaderThanDead in the new universe]]]].
** ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' happened to come out on the same month the first batch of episodes for Part 6 was released, and that film also ended with [[spoiler:the young hero's [[ParentalSubstitute mother figure]] getting killed, everyone losing their memories of him due to a CosmicRetcon, and a previous villain [[PosthumousVillainVictory successfully getting his revenge from beyond the grave]]]].
** Although ''Stone Ocean'' takes place in Florida, having it be set in 2011 while the final battle takes place in the middle of roaring waves can get a little bit disturbing when one remembers the 2011 earthquake and tsunami in Japan, especially since it's the country where the series was created.
** Anasui murdering his girlfriend for cheating on him, already hard to stomach as is, becomes this when realizing that his voice actor, Creator/DaisukeNamikawa, had been in an affair against his wife with an employee from his agency for 13 years, who was only a ''[[{{Squick}} teenager]]'' when they first met.
** Weather Report [[spoiler:shooting himself]] under [[ArtInitiatesLife Bohemian Rhapsody]]'s influence becomes harder to watch after [[spoiler:his backstory shows that he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] multiple times out of despair after his sister died, only failing because [[WeatherManipulation his powers]] bungled each attempt]].
** Around the same time that the second half of the anime adaptation was announced, Music/FooFighters' drummer, Taylor Hawkins, was reported dead. [[spoiler:It hurts even more when considering F.F.'s [[KilledOffForReal ultimate fate]] [[DeaderThanDead in the new universe]]]].
** ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' happened to come out on the same month the first batch of episodes for Part 6 was released, and that film also ended with [[spoiler:the young hero's [[ParentalSubstitute mother figure]] getting killed, everyone losing their memories of him due to a CosmicRetcon, and a previous villain [[PosthumousVillainVictory successfully getting his revenge from beyond the grave]]]].
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** Although ''Stone Ocean'' takes place in Florida, having it be set in 2011 while the final battle takes place in the middle of roaring waves can get a little bit disturbing when one remembers the 2011 earthquake and tsunami in Japan, especially since it's the country where the series was created.
** Anasui murdering his girlfriend for cheating on him, already hard to stomach as is, becomes this when realizing that his voice actor, Creator/DaisukeNamikawa, had been in an affair against his wife with an employee from his agency for 13 years, who was only a ''[[{{Squick}} teenager]]'' when they first met.
** Around the same time that the second half of the anime adaptation was announced, Music/FooFighters' drummer, Taylor Hawkins, was reported dead. [[spoiler:It hurts even more when considering F.F.'s [[KilledOffForReal ultimate fate]] [[DeaderThanDead in the new universe]]]].
** ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' happened to come out on the same month the first batch of episodes for Part 6 was released, and that film also ended with [[spoiler:the young hero's [[ParentalSubstitute mother figure]] getting killed, everyone losing their memories of him due to a CosmicRetcon, and a previous villain [[PosthumousVillainVictory successfully getting his revenge from beyond the grave]]]].
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Meant to be brain folds like her stand.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Character designs were pushing it in Part 5, but by this point, there was essentially no limit to what could be considered clothing in ''[=JoJo=]''. Special mention goes to Lang Rangler's brown leather getup including a helmet that covers part of his eyes, Miumiu's heavy wrinkled sweater resembling a set of small intestines with a pair of eyes, Rikiel's cow-patterned jumpsuit with a chin hood and head suction cups, and D an G's multi-colored toga that might as well be a rug.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Character designs were pushing it in Part 5, but by this point, there was essentially no limit to what could be considered clothing in ''[=JoJo=]''. Special mention goes to Lang Rangler's brown leather getup including a helmet that covers part of his eyes, Miumiu's heavy wrinkled sweater resembling a set of small intestines brain folds with a pair of eyes, Rikiel's cow-patterned jumpsuit with a chin hood and head suction cups, and D an G's multi-colored toga that might as well be a rug.
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I wouldn’t really call these popular nicknames as they’re closer to nonspecific epithets.
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** "Cow Man" for Rikiel, referring to his cow-printed suit.
** "Plankton Girl/Plankton Waifu" for Foo Fighters, mostly from fans who find them attractive or cute.
** "Baseball Kid" for Emporio, based on his baseball uniform and him being the gang's TagalongKid.
** "Plankton Girl/Plankton Waifu" for Foo Fighters, mostly from fans who find them attractive or cute.
** "Baseball Kid" for Emporio, based on his baseball uniform and him being the gang's TagalongKid.
