History YMMV / InazumaElevenAres

* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: A complaint that ''Ares'' and especially ''Orion'' have is that some of the plot points are too similar to ''Go''. This includes:

** The "Disciples of Orion'' are essentially ''Orion'''s equivalent of the [=SEEDs=] due to being teammates completely loyal to the antagonistic organization except that instead of playing dirty or aggressively, they cheat instead.

* ContestedSequel: ''Ares'' and ''Orion'' had a divided opinion when compared to both the original and GO. While some of the older fans come to like the cast in ''Ares'' and ''Orion'', others find themselves think that it's a step back from both the original and ''GO'' in general. For the latter, this is mainly because they disliked how some of the older characters from the original series got sidelined and in their view, got {{Nerf}}ed when compared to their original series incarnations. And there is also the absence of some of the memorable characters back from the original series such as Tachimukai, Tsunami and Toramaru. Some older fans also felt that ''Ares'' and ''Orion'' both [[PanderingToTheBase pander]] a tad ''too'' heavily towards the PeripheryDemographic of Fujoshi's and think that the pandering ruins the series as a whole. There's also the issue of how the anime adaptation is [[ItsShortSoItSucks heavily rushed]].

** The biggest complaint about ''Ares'' anime was how short it was, which along with the fact that it focuses on three protagonists felt that several parts lack focus or are done hastily with special mention to the match between Inakuni Raimon and Zeus which only had a few scenes rather than a whole episode.

* MoralEventHorizon: Ichihoshi from ''Orion'' crosses it in episode 4 when he tries to injure or even kill Endou with a spike he attached to the ball. If that didn't convince some people, [[spoiler:framing Kidou for doping and later, Endou for a violence Endou never committed]] would do it.
* RootingForTheEmpire: Inukani Raimon's opponents include teams from the original series and teams the co-protagonists are a part of. It is not uncommon for views wanting their opponents to win rather than Inakuni Raimon since they find their opposing team more fun, relatable, and/or better developed, which is not helped by how hastily Inakuni Raimon is developed due to ''Ares'' only having 26 episodes. Not to mention the fact that the majority of their opponents are characters from the original series that are beloved by older fans.

** The biggest complaint about how ''Ares'' anime was how short it was with special mention to the match between Inakuni Raimon and Zeus which only had a few scenes.

* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: A problem ''Ares'' and especially ''Orion'' have is that some of the plot points are too similar to the original series and ''Go''. Including Kozoumaru's backstory and character being a mix of Tenma and Tsurugi, goes to the "Disciples of Orion'', who are essentially ''Orion'''s equivalent of the [=SEEDs=] except that instead of playing dirty or aggressively, they cheat instead.

* RootingForTheEmpire: Inukani Raimon's opponents include teams from the original series and teams the co-protagonists are a part of. It is not uncommon for views wanting their opponents to win rather than Inakuni Raimon since they find their opposing team more fun, relatable, and/or better developed, which is not helped by how hastily Inakuni Raimon is developed due to the short episode count of ''Ares''. Special mentions go to Zeus, Eisei Seishou, and Outei, which is not helped by Eisei's match having a whole flashback showcasing the team's motivation.

* MoralEventHorizon: Ichihoshi from ''Orion'' crosses it in episode 4 when he tries to injure or even kill Endou with a spike he attached to the ball. If that didn't convince some people, [[spoiler:framing Kidou for doping and later, Endou for a violence Endou never commited]] would do it.
* RootingForTheEmpire: Inukani Raimon's opponents include teams from the original series and teams the co-protagonists are a part of. It is not uncommon for views wanting their opponents to win rather than Inakuni Raimon since they find their opposing team more fun, relatable, and/or better developed, which is not helped by how hastily Inakuni Raimon is developed due to the short episode count of ''Ares''. Special mentions go to Zeus, Seishou, and Outei.

* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Asuto in the western hemisphere. Some like him for being mature than the previous GenkiBoy protagonist like Endou and Tenma, while others find him a bland StaticCharacter compared to the aforementioned protagonist. Detractors also state that when he is compared to the likes of Haizaki and Nosaka, Asuto's storyline in ''Ares'' doesn't provide anything worthy to be contributed about the Ares no Tenbin program, to the point where he doesn't even meet the BigBad, and even in ''Orion'', they feel that he doesn't have a noteworthy contribution for Inazuma Japan, making him come off as a FlatCharacter in the process. Especially as Asuto is ''supposed'' to be one of the protagonist for ''Ares'' and ''Orion''. There's a third party who feel that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter because Asuto's character has potential but his character arc goes OutOfFocus due to the heavily rushed pacing of the Anime and comes out as underwhelming.

* FranchiseOriginalSin: Some people complain that Inakuni Raimon wins its matches to easily and pulls new hissatsus out of nowhere. The problem is that the first season of every series including the original had the same problems if not even worse since in the original, half of its original members only recently started playing soccer and only two members had hissatsu and had only a book to teach them techniques while also having little to no guidance from their coach before Hibiki. In comparison, every member of Inakuni Raimon already played soccer, were part of a club before, and had a weird, but still competent coach to teach and guide them.

* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Saginuma, in the original series, had a burning desire to be in the Inazuma Japan, enough to ask Kira to train him, but in the end he never got to join the team. [[spoiler:Come ''Orion'' and guess who is part of Inazuma Japan]].

* IronWoobie: At the start of ''Ares'', Asuto experienced a very heavy TraumaCongaLine in the form of having his old school's soccer club abolished followed with his mom dying. ''All at the same day''. Yet he keeps on moving.

** The final match in the ''Orion'' anime is only one and a half episode long which kinda makes it underwhelming compared to other final matches of the season which at least take around 3 episodes.

*** Nosaka himself was [[spoiler:abandoned by his mother because she couldn't take care of him anymore and his father absent, and continuing to follow the Ares no Tenbin project had his emotions drained and suffer from Brain Tumor by the start of the show (Though he is fortunately healed by the time of "Orion no Kokuin")]].

** FIRE LEMONADE [[labelnote:Explanation]]Goujin's misnaming of Fire Tornado. HilariousInHindsight is in play when Goujin would later save the team by having said misnaming as an actual Hissatsu. [[/labelnote]]
** [[Franchise/DragonBall Super Saiyan]] Kozoumaru [[labelnote:Explanation]]The latest episode of ''Orion'' has Kozoumaru show off the result of his training and to the surprise of many, Kozoumaru's new Hissatsu involve him basically becoming a Super Saiyan ala Dragon Ball. Cue many Franchise/DragonBall jokes from many fans.[[/labelnote]]

* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: For whatever reason, several Japanese fans had taken to shipping Kira Hiroto and Norika. They don't interact by much but these fans took liking at the thought that Hiroto respects her spunk as a goal keeper and soccer player and went from there.

** Saginuma finally gets to be part of the national team like he wanted in the original series, but he never got to play as a keeper even once and his biggest contribution was helping Endou create The Asura along with Nishikage. Even his change to midfielder didn't amount to much since he doesn't have any noteworthy contribuation nor does he even use any of the hissatsu techniques of the original.

** Even though Haizaki becomes the EleventhHourRanger for Inakuni Raimon at the end of Ares, he and Asuto never perform a combo hissatsu shoot together.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Asuto gets this at the start of ''Orion'' for defending [[TheMole Ichihoshi]]. While wanting to defend him from violent shoots and not wanting soccer to be used for hatred may sound pure and innocent, the problem is that Ichihoshi is part of the BigBad organization whose players have injured Gouenji to the point where he's [[PutOnABus unable to participate in the FFI for a large portion of the season]]. Ichihoshi has also tried to injure, if not outright ''kill'' Endou with a spiked ball which would have succeeded if it wasn't for Kidou's intervention, later framed Kidou for doping which caused him to be unable to participate in the FFI by planting drugs in his bag, and lastly bribed a few street thugs to frame Endou for committing physical assault, which lead to Endou getting arrested and being forced to sit out the next match. It's also clear that Ichihoshi will cause more problems for the team by continuing to sabotage them in order to make them lose and what also doesn't help is how [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter blind]] Asuto is to how ObviouslyEvil Ichihoshi's intentions are. This later changed after Ichihoshi has a HeelFaceTurn and his DarkAndTroubledPast is revealed.
* UnnecessaryMakeover: In ''Ares'', Kozoumaru has a rather unique design for a forward due to his small stature and rotund body. In ''Orion'', he slimmed down and grew causing him to have normal body shape like the other characters, which turned his design more generic and essentially turned him into a clone of Gouenji.

** Shiratoya Nae of Hakuren. Her [[PluckyGirl personality]] won over many and it helps that she is also a quite good player herself despite her [[UnskilledButStrong lack of experience]] in soccer.

** Seishou academy team in general is one to the fandom, given that they got [[ADayInTheLimelight a spin-off manga all about them]] in ''Inazuma Eleven Penguin No Tsugumono''. Individually though, Mizukamiya Seiryuu, Seishou academy's captain is very popular, with the spin-off making him even more popular due to his TeamMom personality and being a good senior and captain in general to his team. Being a {{Bishounen}} also helps.

** FIRE LEMONADE [[labelnote:Explanation]]Goujin's misnaming of Fire Tornado. HilariousInHindsight is in play when Goujin would later save the team by having said misnaming as an actual Hissatsu. [[/labelnote]

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Asuto gets this at the start of ''Orion'' for defending [[TheMole Ichihoshi]. While wanting to defend him from violent shoots and not wanting soccer to be used for hatred may sound pure and innocent, the problem is that Ichihoshi is part of the BigBad organization whose players have injured Gouenji to the point where he's [[PutOnABus unable to participate in the FFI for a large portion of the season]]. Ichihoshi has also tried to injure, if not outright ''kill'' Endou with a spiked ball which would have succeeded if it wasn't for Kidou's intervention, later framed Kidou for doping which caused him to be unable to participate in the FFI by planting drugs in his bag, and lastly bribed a few street thugs to frame Endou for committing physical assault, which lead to Endou getting arrested and being forced to sit out the next match. It's also clear that Ichihoshi will cause more problems for the team by continuing to sabotage them in order to make them lose and what also doesn't help is how [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter blind]] Asuto is to how ObviouslyEvil Ichihoshi's intentions are. This later changed after Ichihoshi has a HeelFaceTurn and his DarkAndTroubledPast is revealed.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Asuto Inamori from ''Ares'' gets this for defending [[TheMole Ichihoshi]], because while wanting to defend him from violent shoots, because he doesn't want soccer to be used for hatred may sound pure and innocent. The problem is that Ichihoshi is part of an organization whose players have injured Gouenji till a point he's unable to participate in the FFI for a while, Ichihoshi also tried to injure if not kill Endou with a spiked ball which would have succeeded if it wasn't for Kidou's intervention and lastly Ichihoshi framed Kidou which caused him to be unable to participate in the FFI by planting drugs in his bag. It's also clear that Ichihoshi will cause more problems for the team in order to make them lose and what also doesn't help is how blind Asuto is to Ichihoshi's obvious evil intentions are. This later changed with TheReveal about Ichihoshi much later.

* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Saginuma had a burning desire to be in the Inazuma Japan, enough to ask Kira to train him, but in the end he never got to join the team. [[spoiler:Come ''Orion'' and guess who is part of Inazuma Japan]].

** There is also the Orion Foundation as villains. Sticking true with SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, supporters like their VillainWithGoodPublicity and the inner war between many of the Orion Foundation members. Detractors question the effectiveness of Orion's Disciples, with certain matches feeling too gimmicky with cheating and boring minus a few EnsembleDarkhorse{{s}} to keep them interesting.

** A lot of characters not being picked for Inazuma Japan in 'Orion'' had fans wishing certain EnsembleDarkhorse{{s}} like Nae and Midorikawa would eventually join the team.

* UnexpectedCharacter: Nobody expects Taiyou, who is from the ''GO'' series, to actually appear in ''Orion''.

* BrokenBase: ''Ares'' and ''Orion'', are extremely divisive. Debating about rushed pacing aside, in Ares case, some like the Alternate Universe, with some of the new characters being as interesting while also interacting with many fan favorites from the original series, the soccer matches to be still as engaging, and the plot. Others find certain characters to be boring rehashes of old chracters [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter and wasted original timeline characters such as Terumi and Someoka]].

*** There is also the Orion Foundation as villains. Sticking true with SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, supporters like their VillainWithGoodPublicity and the inner war between many of the Orion Foundation members. Detractors question the effectiveness of Orion's Disciples, with certain matches feeling too gimmicky with cheating and boring minus a few EnsembleDarkhorse{{s}} to keep them interesting.

** Fans wish Ares had been longer (reportedly Ares was planned to be 55 episodes long) in order to show off more with the new alternate timeline. Specifically, seeing what teams members of Raimon & Second Raimon have joined and competing against the three main teams

** Valentin's pronounced eyelashes make it easy to mistake him for a girl.

*** There is also the Orion Foundation as villains. Sticking true with RealityEnsues, supporters like their VillainWithGoodPublicity and the inner war between many of the Orion Foundation members. Detractors question the effectiveness of Orion's Disciples, with certain matches feeling too gimmicky with cheating and boring minus a few EnsembleDarkhorse{{s}} to keep them interesting.

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Goujin. You either find him hilarious and his or annoying. He lost detractors after proving himself to be useful in matches, though the lack of a hissatsu and performing normal shoots after chain shoots made some question the power scaling and RealityEnsues of the franchise regarding him. Fortunately, his ''Fire Lemonade'' jokes actually had payoff as he improved as a player by mid ''Orion''.
* BrokenBase: ''Ares'' and ''Orion'', are extremely divisive. Debating about rushed pacing aside, in Ares case, some like the Alternate Universe, with some of the new characters being as interesting while also interacting with many fan favorites from the original series, the soccer matches to be still as engaging, and the plot. Others find certain characters (Nosaka, Asuto) to be boring or a MarySue [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter and wasted original timeline characters such as Terumi and Someoka]].

* EthnicScrappy: Mr. Yi due to his stereotypically Chinese design and sneaky personality.