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* RealismInducedHorror: The things Hermione goes through aren't just horrific for what is the norm in the ''Harry Potter'' franchise, it's because many of these things are what could happen to her even if she weren't a witch. [[spoiler:She's been kidnapped in the night from her home, physically abused, her parents are killed and she never gets to see them again, she deals with the unwanted attraction of a man who is bigoted towards her and is raped by him as she cries for him to stop. That's in addition to her developing StockholmSyndrome for the same man who committed all those vile deeds and is pregnant with his second son.]]
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* RealismInducedHorror: The things Hermione goes through aren't just horrific for what is the norm in the ''Harry Potter'' franchise, it's because many of these things are what could happen to her even if she weren't a witch. [[spoiler:She's been kidnapped in the night from her home, physically abused, her parents are killed and she never gets to see them again, she deals with the unwanted attraction of a man who is bigoted towards her and is raped by him as she cries for him to stop. That's in addition to her developing StockholmSyndrome Stockholm Syndrome for the same man who committed all those vile deeds and is pregnant with his second son.]]
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** The relationship between Hermione and Lucius comes across as an inspiration between Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' sequel trilogy. Rey/Hermione are young women with British accents who opposed Lucius/Kylo for being part of the "dark side" and support an evil regime. Those some young women are kidnapped by those same men, which led to [[spoiler: the death of their parents, or parental figures for Rey,]] but despite the obvious hate, they end up connecting with those same men, turning their mutual hate into love. That same man undergoes LimaSyndrome and ultimately [[spoiler:gives his life for the girl he loves]]. The key difference are of course a much greater age difference and [[spoiler:Ben never raped Rey, much less fathered a child with her before his death]].
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** The relationship between Hermione and Lucius comes across as an inspiration between Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' sequel trilogy. Rey/Hermione Hermione/Rey are young women with British accents who opposed Lucius/Kylo for being part of the "dark side" and support an evil regime. Those some young women are kidnapped by those same men, which led to [[spoiler: the death of their parents, or parental figures for Rey,]] but despite the obvious hate, they end up connecting with those same men, turning their mutual hate into love. That same man undergoes LimaSyndrome and ultimately [[spoiler:gives his life for the girl he loves]]. The key difference are of course a much greater age difference and [[spoiler:Ben never raped Rey, much less fathered a child with her before his death]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: When you get down to it, the plot sounds like a dark, deconstructed take on ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast''. Come 2017, Emma Watson, who played the film version of Hermione Granger, [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 plays the live-action take on Belle]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: When you get down to it, the HilariousInHindsight:
** The plot sounds like a dark, deconstructed and sexualized take on ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast''. Come 2017, Emma Watson, who played the film version of Hermione Granger, [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 plays the live-action take onBelle]].Belle]].
** The relationship between Hermione and Lucius comes across as an inspiration between Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' sequel trilogy. Rey/Hermione are young women with British accents who opposed Lucius/Kylo for being part of the "dark side" and support an evil regime. Those some young women are kidnapped by those same men, which led to [[spoiler: the death of their parents, or parental figures for Rey,]] but despite the obvious hate, they end up connecting with those same men, turning their mutual hate into love. That same man undergoes LimaSyndrome and ultimately [[spoiler:gives his life for the girl he loves]]. The key difference are of course a much greater age difference and [[spoiler:Ben never raped Rey, much less fathered a child with her before his death]].
** The plot sounds like a dark, deconstructed and sexualized take on ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast''. Come 2017, Emma Watson, who played the film version of Hermione Granger, [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 plays the live-action take on
** The relationship between Hermione and Lucius comes across as an inspiration between Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' sequel trilogy. Rey/Hermione are young women with British accents who opposed Lucius/Kylo for being part of the "dark side" and support an evil regime. Those some young women are kidnapped by those same men, which led to [[spoiler: the death of their parents, or parental figures for Rey,]] but despite the obvious hate, they end up connecting with those same men, turning their mutual hate into love. That same man undergoes LimaSyndrome and ultimately [[spoiler:gives his life for the girl he loves]]. The key difference are of course a much greater age difference and [[spoiler:Ben never raped Rey, much less fathered a child with her before his death]].
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* RealismInducedHorror: The things Hermione goes through aren't just horrific for what is the norm in the ''Harry Potter'' franchise, it's because many of these things are what could happen to her even if she weren't a witch. [[spoiler:She's been kidnapped in the night from her home, physically abused, her parents are killed and she never gets to see them again, she deals with the unwanted attraction of a man who is bigoted towards her and is raped by him as she cries for him to stop. That's in addition to her developing StolkholmSyndrome for the same man who committed all those vile deeds and is pregnant with his second son.]]
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* RealismInducedHorror: The things Hermione goes through aren't just horrific for what is the norm in the ''Harry Potter'' franchise, it's because many of these things are what could happen to her even if she weren't a witch. [[spoiler:She's been kidnapped in the night from her home, physically abused, her parents are killed and she never gets to see them again, she deals with the unwanted attraction of a man who is bigoted towards her and is raped by him as she cries for him to stop. That's in addition to her developing StolkholmSyndrome StockholmSyndrome for the same man who committed all those vile deeds and is pregnant with his second son.]]
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* SpiritualLicensee: The ''Harry Potter'' fanfiction take on ''Film/FleshAndBlood''.
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* SpiritualLicensee: SpiritualAdaptation: The ''Harry Potter'' fanfiction take on ''Film/FleshAndBlood''.''Film/FleshAndBlood1985''.
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* RealismInducedHorror: The things Hermione goes through aren't just horrific for what is the norm in the ''Harry Potter'' franchise, it's because many of these things are what could happen to her even if she weren't a witch. [[spoiler:She's been kidnapped in the night from her home, physically abused, her parents are killed and she never gets to see them again, she deals with the unwanted attraction of a man who is bigoted towards her and is raped by him as she cries for him to stop. That's in addition to her developing StolkholmSyndrome for the same man who committed all those vile deeds and is pregnant with his second son.]]
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* FoeYay: Definitely on Lucius's part. Hermione, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be particularly ''attracted'' to Lucius so much as she develops an incredible emotional dependence on him due to extreme loneliness, mental deterioration, and a need for validation.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Hermione killing Bellatrix.]]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
** [[spoiler: Hermione killing Bellatrix.]]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, --->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
** [[spoiler: Hermione killing Bellatrix.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: Lucius [[spoiler:killing Hermione’s parents.]] Also, Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save her life.]]
** Of course, there is Lucius [[spoiler:and his vicious rape of Hermione.]]
* NightmareFuel: Most of the fic, really. Especially the earlier chapters.
** Of course, there is Lucius [[spoiler:and his vicious rape of Hermione.]]
* NightmareFuel: Most of the fic, really. Especially the earlier chapters.
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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
** Lucius [[spoiler:killing Hermione’sparents.]] Also, Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save parents and raping her life.later.]]
**Of course, there is Lucius [[spoiler:and his vicious rape of Hermione.Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save her life.]]
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%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * NightmareFuel: Most of the fic, really. Especially the earlier chapters.
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* TearJerker: Hermione's reaction to [[spoiler:Lucius' death:]]
-->[[spoiler: 'I can't leave him alone. You don't know how lonely he was. He would never admit it, but he was... He likes being with ''me''.']]
-->[[spoiler: 'I can't leave him alone. You don't know how lonely he was. He would never admit it, but he was... He likes being with ''me''.']]
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* TearJerker: TearJerker:
** Hermione's reaction to [[spoiler:Lucius' death:]]
-->[[spoiler: --->[[spoiler: 'I can't leave him alone. You don't know how lonely he was. He would never admit it, but he was... He likes being with ''me''.']]
** Hermione's reaction to [[spoiler:Lucius' death:]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: When you get down to it, the plot sounds like a dark, deconstructed take on BeautyAndTheBeast. Come 2017, Emma Watson, who played the film version of Hermione Granger, [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 plays the live-action take on Belle]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: When you get down to it, the plot sounds like a dark, deconstructed take on BeautyAndTheBeast.''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast''. Come 2017, Emma Watson, who played the film version of Hermione Granger, [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 plays the live-action take on Belle]].
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* EvilIsSexy: Somewhat averted. Hermione never describes Lucius as attractive. Played straight with Bellatrix and Avery.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Hermione killing Bellatrix.]]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
** In the same chapter, Ron [[spoiler:snapping Bellatrix's wand in half before spitting at her.]]
-->[[spoiler:'That's for making us polish your fucking silver!']]
** Ron gets another one when he [[spoiler:beats Draco into unconsciousness in one of the final chapters.]]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
** In the same chapter, Ron [[spoiler:snapping Bellatrix's wand in half before spitting at her.]]
-->[[spoiler:'That's for making us polish your fucking silver!']]
** Ron gets another one when he [[spoiler:beats Draco into unconsciousness in one of the final chapters.]]
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Hermione killing Bellatrix.]]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
** In the same chapter, Ron [[spoiler:snapping Bellatrix's wand in half before spitting at her.]]
-->[[spoiler:'That's for making us polish your fucking silver!']]
** Ron gets another one when he [[spoiler:beats Draco into unconsciousness in one of the final chapters.]]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
** In the same chapter, Ron [[spoiler:snapping Bellatrix's wand in half before spitting at her.]]
-->[[spoiler:'That's for making us polish your fucking silver!']]
** Ron gets another one when he [[spoiler:beats Draco into unconsciousness in one of the final chapters.]]
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* TheWoobie: Both Hermione and Ron. [[spoiler:Hermione is left without her parents, without the man she reformed and fell in love with and must care for his son with another. Ron discovers the girl he loves having a physical relationship with a man old enough to be her father, murdered her parents, and is a racist. He does end up bonding with Hermione's son through Lucius, but goes on unaware she still loves the pureblood supremist]].
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* TheWoobie: Both Hermione and Ron. [[spoiler:Hermione is left without her parents, without the man she reformed and fell in love with and must care for his son with another. Ron discovers the girl he loves having a physical relationship with a man old enough to be her father, murdered her parents, and is a racist. He does end up bonding with Hermione's son through Lucius, but goes on unaware she still loves the pureblood supremist]].supremist]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: When you get down to it, the plot sounds like a dark, deconstructed take on BeautyAndTheBeast. Come 2017, Emma Watson, who played the film version of Hermione Granger, [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast plays the live-action take on Belle]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: When you get down to it, the plot sounds like a dark, deconstructed take on BeautyAndTheBeast. Come 2017, Emma Watson, who played the film version of Hermione Granger, [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 plays the live-action take on Belle]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: Lucius [[spoiler:killing Hermione’s parents.]] Also, Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save her life.]]
** Of course, there is Lucius [[spoiler:and his vicious rape of Hermione.]]
** Of course, there is Lucius [[spoiler:and his vicious rape of Hermione.]]
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* NightmareFuel: Most of the fic, really. Especially the earlier chapters.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Lucius [[spoiler:killing Hermione’s parents.]] Also, Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save her life.]]
** Of course, there is Lucius [[spoiler:and his vicious rape of Hermione.]]
* NightmareFuel: Most of the fic, really. Especially the earlierchapters. chapters.
* SpiritualLicensee: The ''Harry Potter'' fanfiction take on ''Film/FleshAndBlood''.
** Of course, there is Lucius [[spoiler:and his vicious rape of Hermione.]]
* NightmareFuel: Most of the fic, really. Especially the earlier
* SpiritualLicensee: The ''Harry Potter'' fanfiction take on ''Film/FleshAndBlood''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: When you get down to it, the plot sounds like a dark, deconstructed take on BeautyAndTheBeast. Come 2017, Emma Watson, who played the film version of Hermione Granger, [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast plays the live-action take on Belle]].
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* TheWoobie: Both Hermione and Ron. [[spoiler:Hermione is left without her parents, without the man she reformed and fell in love with and must care for his son with another. Ron discovers the girl he loves having a physical relationship with a man old enough to be her father, murdered her parents, and is a racist. He does end up bonding with Hermione's son through Lucius, but goes on unaware she still loves the pureblood supremist]].
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* TheWoobie: Both Hermione and Ron. [[spoiler:Hermione is left without her parents, without the man she reformed and fell in love with and must care for his son with another. Ron discovers the girl he loves having a physical relationship with a man old enough to be her father, murdered her parents, and is a racist. He does end up bonding with Hermione's son through Lucius, but goes on unaware she still loves the pureblood supremist]].
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* JerkassWoobie:
**Draco suffers from a distant father and, despite maintaining his attitude towards Hermione from the books and movies, fears his father leaving him due to [[spoiler:his hypocrisy towards muggleborns, especially Hermione]].
** Lucius is a racist, a murderer, a supremist [[spoiler:and a rapist]], yet the more he bonds with Hermione, the more sympathetic he gets. [[spoiler:By the end, his buried lust for her becomes love and regrets every horrible thing he did to her. He decides his love for her is more important the than life he's lived, and dies for her.]]
**Draco suffers from a distant father and, despite maintaining his attitude towards Hermione from the books and movies, fears his father leaving him due to [[spoiler:his hypocrisy towards muggleborns, especially Hermione]].
** Lucius is a racist, a murderer, a supremist [[spoiler:and a rapist]], yet the more he bonds with Hermione, the more sympathetic he gets. [[spoiler:By the end, his buried lust for her becomes love and regrets every horrible thing he did to her. He decides his love for her is more important the than life he's lived, and dies for her.]]
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* TheWoobie: Both Hermione and Ron.
** JerkassWoobie: Draco.
** JerkassWoobie: Draco.
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* TheWoobie: Both Hermione and Ron.
** JerkassWoobie: Draco.Ron. [[spoiler:Hermione is left without her parents, without the man she reformed and fell in love with and must care for his son with another. Ron discovers the girl he loves having a physical relationship with a man old enough to be her father, murdered her parents, and is a racist. He does end up bonding with Hermione's son through Lucius, but goes on unaware she still loves the pureblood supremist]].
** JerkassWoobie: Draco.
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* FoeYay: Definitely on Lucius's part. Hermione, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be particularly ''attracted'' to Lucius so much as she develops an incredible emotional dependence on him due to extreme loneliness, mental deterioration, and a need for validation.
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** Ron's [[spoiler:discovery of the affair]] is pretty heartbreaking.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Hermione killing Bellatrix.]]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
** In the same chapter, Ron [[spoiler:snapping Bellatrix's wand in half before spitting at her.]]
-->[[spoiler:'That's for making us polish your fucking silver!']]
** Ron gets another one when he [[spoiler:beats Draco into unconsciousness in one of the final chapters.]]
-->[[spoiler:'Yes, ''this'' is what he left you for.']]
** In the same chapter, Ron [[spoiler:snapping Bellatrix's wand in half before spitting at her.]]
-->[[spoiler:'That's for making us polish your fucking silver!']]
** Ron gets another one when he [[spoiler:beats Draco into unconsciousness in one of the final chapters.]]
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** Of course, there is Lucius [[spoiler:and his vicious rape of Hermione.]]
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** [[spoiler:Post-rape Hermione]].
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-->[[spoiler: 'I can't leave him alone. You don't know how lonely he was. He would never admit it, but he was... He likes being with me.''me''.']]
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* NightmareFuel: Most of the fic, really. Especially the earlier chapters.
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** Also, the death of [[spoiler:Hermione's parents]].parents]].
* TheWoobie: Both Hermione and Ron.
** JerkassWoobie: Draco.
* TheWoobie: Both Hermione and Ron.
** JerkassWoobie: Draco.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Lucius [[spoiler:killing Hermione’s parents.]] Also, Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save her life.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: Lucius [[spoiler:killing Hermione’s parents.]] Also, Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save her life.]]]]
* TearJerker: Hermione's reaction to [[spoiler:Lucius' death:]]
[[spoiler:--> 'I can't leave him alone. You don't know how lonely he was. He would never admit it, but he was... He likes being with me.']]
** Also, the death of [[spoiler:Hermione's parents]].
* TearJerker: Hermione's reaction to [[spoiler:Lucius' death:]]
[[spoiler:--> 'I can't leave him alone. You don't know how lonely he was. He would never admit it, but he was... He likes being with me.']]
** Also, the death of [[spoiler:Hermione's parents]].
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* EvilIsSexy: Somewhat averted. Hermione never describes Lucius as attractive. Played straight with Bellatrix and Avery.
* MoralEventHorizon: Lucius [[spoiler:killing Hermione’s parents.]] Also, Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save her life.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Lucius [[spoiler:killing Hermione’s parents.]] Also, Avery trying to [[spoiler:force Ron to sleep with a dying Ginny to save her life.]]
