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** Caitlin almost never gets mentioned during the filming scenes, and some lines mentioning her in the original were altered. Did Dante request that Caitlin be left out of Randal's movie? Or did Randal think [[EveryoneHasStandards adding Caitlin's traumatizing incident in the Quick Stop bathroom would have been in bad taste]]? They did mention the guy who died in the bathroom that was the cause of Caitlin's breakdown.[[note]] The actress who played Caitlin dies in 2017, so her part was most likely omitted out of respect of the actress out of universe.[[/note]]
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** Caitlin almost never gets mentioned during the filming scenes, and some lines mentioning her in the original were altered. Did Dante request that Caitlin be left out of Randal's movie? Or did Randal think [[EveryoneHasStandards adding Caitlin's traumatizing incident in the Quick Stop bathroom would have been in bad taste]]? They did mention the guy who died in the bathroom that was the cause of Caitlin's breakdown.[[note]] The actress who played Caitlin dies died in 2017, so her part was most likely omitted out of respect of the actress out of universe.[[/note]]
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** Caitlin almost never gets mentioned during the filming scenes, and some lines mentioning her in the original were altered. Did Dante request that Caitlin be left out of Randal's movie? Or did Randal think [[EveryoneHasStandards adding Caitlin's traumatizing incident in the Quick Stop bathroom would have been in bad taste]]? They did mention the guy who died in the bathroom that was the cause of Caitlin's breakdown.
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** Caitlin almost never gets mentioned during the filming scenes, and some lines mentioning her in the original were altered. Did Dante request that Caitlin be left out of Randal's movie? Or did Randal think [[EveryoneHasStandards adding Caitlin's traumatizing incident in the Quick Stop bathroom would have been in bad taste]]? They did mention the guy who died in the bathroom that was the cause of Caitlin's breakdown.[[note]] The actress who played Caitlin dies in 2017, so her part was most likely omitted out of respect of the actress out of universe.[[/note]]
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* TheWoobie: Dante was emotionally scarred by the death of [[spoiler:Becky and their unborn child.]] When the sight of Mooby's triggers him, he gets drunk, fights with Randal and [[spoiler:gives himself a heart attack from the stress. Unlike Randal who had a smooth recovery, Dante doesn't make it.]]
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* TheWoobie: Dante was emotionally scarred by the death of [[spoiler:Becky and their unborn child.]] When the sight of Mooby's triggers him, he gets drunk, fights with Randal and [[spoiler:gives himself a heart attack from the stress. Unlike Randal who had a smooth recovery, Dante doesn't make it.]]
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: As mentioned above, some feel this way thanks to how utterly brutal the ending is. [[spoiler: Becky and her unborn child are dead, having been killed by a drunk driver shortly after the events of the second movie. Dante is an embittered man who has lost the will to live and eventually dies of a heart attack shortly after telling off Randal for being a shitty friend. Randal after being a selfish bastard throughout the whole movie gets to live 40 years without Dante essentially alone without the man who had stuck with him through thick and thin. And Elias has lost his innocence and become a satanist.]]
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: As mentioned above, some feel this way thanks to how utterly brutal the ending is. [[spoiler: Becky and her unborn child are dead, having been killed by a drunk driver shortly after the events of the second movie. Dante is an embittered man who has lost the will to live and eventually dies of a heart attack shortly after telling off Randal for being a shitty friend. Randal after being a selfish bastard throughout the whole movie gets to live 40 years without Dante essentially alone without the man who had stuck with him through thick and thin. And Elias has lost his innocence and become a satanist.]]
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** Is it a true act of friendship for Randal to re-edit his movie to be about (one day in) Dante's life, and then sneak into his hospital room to show him [[spoiler:at the very end of Dante's life]], or was he not listening when Dante told him the last thing he wanted to do was relive his life? And was Dante trying to turn off the laptop when Randal took his hand?
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** Is it a true act of friendship for Randal to re-edit his movie to be about (one day in) Dante's life, and then sneak into his hospital room to show him [[spoiler:at the very end of Dante's life]], or was he not listening when Dante told him the last thing he wanted to do was relive his life? Supporting the former was how Dante didn't have a problem with his life being used for the plot of Randal's movie until they started filming scenes at Mooby's. And if it's the latter, was Dante trying to turn off the laptop when Randal took his hand?
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** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over [[spoiler:losing Becky]] and is trying really hard to make Randal’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randal being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randal after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him.
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** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over [[spoiler:losing Becky]] and is trying really hard to make Randal’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, Becky when he's had sixteen years to move on, his over the top rant towards Randal being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randal after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him.
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** Jay and Silent Bob at first film the argument between Dante and Randal with interest. As it continues and grows more heated, however, they quietly turn their equipment off in a rare moment of respect for Dante and Randal, clearly understanding what they are witnessing is best not recorded.
** Elias was always a pushover, to the point where Randal was able to ignore his cat allergy. When Randal shows the same level of apathy towards [[spoiler:Dante's heart attack - after spending the entire movie milking his own for sympathy]] - Elias finally snaps at him.
** [[spoiler:After Dante's funeral, Randal promotes Elias to co-owner, reminding him of the time he said that when Dante's gone, Elias would become Randal's new best friend. Randal meant what he said and thanks to character development, it looks like he's going to treat Elias far better than he treated Dante.]]
** The film ends with a shot of Jay's daughter Milly (Smith's daughter Harley Quinn Smith) inspecting the expiration dates on some oat milk cartons in the store. This is heartwarming on two levels: Milly is wearing a Quick Stop shirt, revealing she has started working at the store that her father has been hanging around for years; the other is that this scene is a tribute to the "Milk Maid" from ''Clerks'' and ''Clerks II'', who was played by Grace Smith, Kevin Smith's mother and thus Harley Quinn Smith's grandmother.
** Jay and Silent Bob at first film the argument between Dante and Randal with interest. As it continues and grows more heated, however, they quietly turn their equipment off in a rare moment of respect for Dante and Randal, clearly understanding what they are witnessing is best not recorded.
** Elias was always a pushover, to the point where Randal was able to ignore his cat allergy. When Randal shows the same level of apathy towards [[spoiler:Dante's heart attack - after spending the entire movie milking his own for sympathy]] - Elias finally snaps at him.
** [[spoiler:After Dante's funeral, Randal promotes Elias to co-owner, reminding him of the time he said that when Dante's gone, Elias would become Randal's new best friend. Randal meant what he said and thanks to character development, it looks like he's going to treat Elias far better than he treated Dante.]]
** The film ends with a shot of Jay's daughter Milly (Smith's daughter Harley Quinn Smith) inspecting the expiration dates on some oat milk cartons in the store. This is heartwarming on two levels: Milly is wearing a Quick Stop shirt, revealing she has started working at the store that her father has been hanging around for years; the other is that this scene is a tribute to the "Milk Maid" from ''Clerks'' and ''Clerks II'', who was played by Grace Smith, Kevin Smith's mother and thus Harley Quinn Smith's grandmother.
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** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over losing Becky and is trying really hard to make Randal’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randal being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randal after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him.
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** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over losing Becky [[spoiler:losing Becky]] and is trying really hard to make Randal’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randal being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randal after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him.
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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Dante dies from a heart attack]], a moment so polarizing there was no way it could stay a secret.
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* TheWoobie: Dante was emotionally scarred by the death of Becky and their unborn child. When the sight of Mooby's triggers him, he gets drunk, fights with Randal and [[spoiler:gives himself a heart attack from the stress. Unlike Randal who had a smooth recovery, Dante doesn't make it.]]
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* TheWoobie: Dante was emotionally scarred by the death of Becky [[spoiler:Becky and their unborn child. child.]] When the sight of Mooby's triggers him, he gets drunk, fights with Randal and [[spoiler:gives himself a heart attack from the stress. Unlike Randal who had a smooth recovery, Dante doesn't make it.]]
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** Elias was always a pushover, to the point where Randal was able to ignore his cat allergy. When Randal shows the same level of apathy towards Dante's heart attack - after spending the entire movie milking his own for sympathy - Elias finally snaps at him.
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** Elias was always a pushover, to the point where Randal was able to ignore his cat allergy. When Randal shows the same level of apathy towards Dante's [[spoiler:Dante's heart attack - after spending the entire movie milking his own for sympathy sympathy]] - Elias finally snaps at him.
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** Randal became a victim of this trope to many after this film. Some still feel that he just was under pressure of getting his movie made and TookALevelInJerkass because of his near-fatal heart attack while others consider him an irredeemable {{Jerkass}} mainly because of the way he treated Dante throughout most of the film and even yelling at him for refusing to go to Mooby’s which in turn kicked off Dante’s rant that caused him his heart attack [[spoiler:which he died from, leading to some considering Randal responsible for the death of Dante.]]
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** Randal became a victim of this trope to many after this film. Some still feel that he just was under pressure of getting his movie made and TookALevelInJerkass because of his near-fatal heart attack while others consider him an irredeemable {{Jerkass}} mainly because of the way he treated Dante throughout most of the film and even yelling at him for refusing to go to Mooby’s which in turn kicked off Dante’s [[spoiler:Dante’s rant that caused him his heart attack [[spoiler:which which he died from, leading to some considering Randal responsible for the death of Dante.]]
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: When Randal callously decides to leave Dante at the hospital to work on the movie, Elias finally gets fed up with Randal's behavior and explodes at him for mistreating Dante and getting so caught up in the movie. Especially cool to watch because Elias completely drops his nerdy demeanor and even outright curses Randal out for being a bad friend to Dante.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: When Randal callously decides to leave Dante at [[spoiler:at the hospital hospital]] to work on the movie, Elias finally gets fed up with Randal's behavior and explodes at him for mistreating Dante and getting so caught up in the movie. Especially cool to watch because Elias completely drops his nerdy demeanor and even outright curses Randal out for being a bad friend to Dante.
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* TheWoobie: Dante was emotionally scarred by the death of Becky and their unborn child. When the sight of Mooby's triggers him, he gets drunk, fights with Randal and gives himself a heart attack from the stress. [[spoiler:Unlike Randal who had a smooth recovery, Dante doesn't make it.]]
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* TheWoobie: Dante was emotionally scarred by the death of Becky and their unborn child. When the sight of Mooby's triggers him, he gets drunk, fights with Randal and gives [[spoiler:gives himself a heart attack from the stress. [[spoiler:Unlike Unlike Randal who had a smooth recovery, Dante doesn't make it.]]
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** Blockchain is either an amusing sidekick to Elias or a completely pointless character who is only there for Kevin to make jokes about crypto.
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** Blockchain is either an amusing sidekick to Elias or a completely pointless character who is only there for Kevin Smith to make parry some jokes about crypto.crypto.
* BrokenBase: [[spoiler:Dante dying of a heart attack at the end.]] It's either heartbreaking due to how poignant and unexpected it is, while others find it pushes the film firmly into TooBleakStoppedCaring territory and makes the entire trilogy one big ShootTheShaggyDog story.
* BrokenBase: [[spoiler:Dante dying of a heart attack at the end.]] It's either heartbreaking due to how poignant and unexpected it is, while others find it pushes the film firmly into TooBleakStoppedCaring territory and makes the entire trilogy one big ShootTheShaggyDog story.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Veronica returns after being absent from the last movie, and it looks like she and Dante were going to [[spoiler: rekindle their relationship]]. Unfortunately, apart from a few cameos during filming for Randal's movie and Dante's funeral, she only plays a pivotal part in one scene. This was somewhat acknowledged by Smith during a con panel, when he said that Veronica's scene was intentionally written to be completely optional, so that he could cut it if need be, but Marilyn Ghigliotti wowed him so much with her performance, that he vowed to keep it in no matter what.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Veronica returns after being absent from the last movie, and it looks like she and Dante were going to [[spoiler: rekindle their relationship]]. Unfortunately, apart from a few cameos during filming for Randal's movie and Dante's funeral, [[spoiler:Dante's funeral]], she only plays a pivotal part in one scene. This was somewhat acknowledged by Smith during a con panel, when he said that Veronica's scene was intentionally written to be completely optional, so that he could cut it if need be, but Marilyn Ghigliotti wowed him so much with her performance, that he vowed to keep it in no matter what.
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** Is it a true act of friendship for Randall to re-edit his movie to be about (one day in) Dante's life, and then sneak into his hospital room to show him [[spoiler:at the very end of Dante's life]], or was he not listening when Dante told him the last thing he wanted to do was relive his life? And was Dante trying to turn off the laptop when Randal took his hand?
** Is Dante's friendship with Randall an underlyingly sweet and mutually supportive partnership between an OddCouple, or is it (as Dante always ends up expressing whenever he loses his patience with Randal and tells him off--throughout the entire trilogy) a toxic relationship with a narcissistic asshole who [[TheLoad holds Dante back]]?
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Randall became a victim of this trope to many after this film. Some still feel that he just was under pressure of getting his movie made and * TookALevelInJerkass because of his near fata heart attack while others consider him an irredeemable Jerkass after this movie mainly because of the way he treated Dante throughout most of the film and even yelling at him for refusing to go to Mooby’s which in turn kicked off Dante’s rant that caused him his heart attack which he died from, leading to some considering Randall responsible for the death of Dante
** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over losing Becky and is trying really hard to make Randall’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randall being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randall after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him
** Is Dante's friendship with Randall an underlyingly sweet and mutually supportive partnership between an OddCouple, or is it (as Dante always ends up expressing whenever he loses his patience with Randal and tells him off--throughout the entire trilogy) a toxic relationship with a narcissistic asshole who [[TheLoad holds Dante back]]?
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Randall became a victim of this trope to many after this film. Some still feel that he just was under pressure of getting his movie made and * TookALevelInJerkass because of his near fata heart attack while others consider him an irredeemable Jerkass after this movie mainly because of the way he treated Dante throughout most of the film and even yelling at him for refusing to go to Mooby’s which in turn kicked off Dante’s rant that caused him his heart attack which he died from, leading to some considering Randall responsible for the death of Dante
** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over losing Becky and is trying really hard to make Randall’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randall being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randall after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him
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** Is it a true act of friendship for Randall Randal to re-edit his movie to be about (one day in) Dante's life, and then sneak into his hospital room to show him [[spoiler:at the very end of Dante's life]], or was he not listening when Dante told him the last thing he wanted to do was relive his life? And was Dante trying to turn off the laptop when Randal took his hand?
** Is Dante's friendship withRandall Randal an underlyingly sweet and mutually supportive partnership between an OddCouple, or is it (as Dante always ends up expressing whenever he loses his patience with Randal and tells him off--throughout the entire trilogy) a toxic relationship with a narcissistic asshole who [[TheLoad holds Dante back]]?
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Randall became a victim of this trope to many after this film. Some still feel that he just was under pressure of getting his movie made and * TookALevelInJerkass because of his near fata heart attack while others consider him an irredeemable Jerkass after this movie mainly because of the way he treated Dante throughout most of the film and even yelling at him for refusing to go to Mooby’s which in turn kicked off Dante’s rant that caused him his heart attack which he died from, leading to some considering Randall responsible for the death of Dante
** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over losing Becky and is trying really hard to make Randall’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randall being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randall after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to himback]]?
** Is Dante's friendship with
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Randall became a victim of this trope to many after this film. Some still feel that he just was under pressure of getting his movie made and * TookALevelInJerkass because of his near fata heart attack while others consider him an irredeemable Jerkass after this movie mainly because of the way he treated Dante throughout most of the film and even yelling at him for refusing to go to Mooby’s which in turn kicked off Dante’s rant that caused him his heart attack which he died from, leading to some considering Randall responsible for the death of Dante
** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over losing Becky and is trying really hard to make Randall’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randall being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randall after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans like to pretend the ''Clerks'' saga ended with the second movie due to this film's ''brutal'' HappyEndingOverride with some even calling it their most hated movie of 2022 for the very same reason and depressing tone it has for a comedy movie
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Randal became a victim of this trope to many after this film. Some still feel that he just was under pressure of getting his movie made and TookALevelInJerkass because of his near-fatal heart attack while others consider him an irredeemable {{Jerkass}} mainly because of the way he treated Dante throughout most of the film and even yelling at him for refusing to go to Mooby’s which in turn kicked off Dante’s rant that caused him his heart attack [[spoiler:which he died from, leading to some considering Randal responsible for the death of Dante.]]
** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over losing Becky and is trying really hard to make Randal’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randal being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randal after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him.
** Blockchain is either an amusing sidekick to Elias or a completely pointless character who is only there for Kevin to make jokes about crypto.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans like to pretend the ''Clerks'' saga ended with the second movie due to this film's ''brutal''HappyEndingOverride with some even calling it their most hated movie of 2022 for the very same reason and depressing tone it has for a comedy movieHappyEndingOverride.
** Randal became a victim of this trope to many after this film. Some still feel that he just was under pressure of getting his movie made and TookALevelInJerkass because of his near-fatal heart attack while others consider him an irredeemable {{Jerkass}} mainly because of the way he treated Dante throughout most of the film and even yelling at him for refusing to go to Mooby’s which in turn kicked off Dante’s rant that caused him his heart attack [[spoiler:which he died from, leading to some considering Randal responsible for the death of Dante.]]
** Dante himself could qualify. Some sympathize with him mainly because he’s distraught over losing Becky and is trying really hard to make Randal’s movie completely turn out great and keep him happy after he nearly died whole others find him an annoying crybaby in this movie due to the fact that all he does is whine about how he lost Becky, his over the top rant towards Randal being too over the top, and how he is still willing to forgive and trust Randal after he gave him a heart attack and was rude to him.
** Blockchain is either an amusing sidekick to Elias or a completely pointless character who is only there for Kevin to make jokes about crypto.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans like to pretend the ''Clerks'' saga ended with the second movie due to this film's ''brutal''
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** After [[spoiler:After Dante's funeral, Randal promotes Elias to co-owner, reminding him of the time he said that when Dante's gone, Elias would become Randal's new best friend. Randal meant what he said and thanks to character development, it looks like he's going to treat Elias far better than he treated Dante.]]
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** Creator/BrianOHalloran and Jeff Anderson pull off some of their best work as Dante and Randall here. In particular, Dante's DespairSpeech near the end of the movie and Randal's [[spoiler:anguished cries begging Dante not to leave him when he realizes Dante is dying.]]
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** Creator/BrianOHalloran and Jeff Anderson pull off some of their best work as Dante and Randall Randal here. In particular, Dante's DespairSpeech near the end of the movie and Randal's [[spoiler:anguished cries begging Dante not to leave him when he realizes Dante is dying.]]
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* TheWoobie: Dante was emotionally scarred by the death of Becky and their unborn child. When the sight of Mooby's triggers him, he gets drunk, fights with Randall and gives himself a heart attack from the stress. Unlike Randall who had a smooth recovery, Dante doesn't make it.
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* TheWoobie: Dante was emotionally scarred by the death of Becky and their unborn child. When the sight of Mooby's triggers him, he gets drunk, fights with Randall Randal and gives himself a heart attack from the stress. Unlike Randall [[spoiler:Unlike Randal who had a smooth recovery, Dante doesn't make it.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Veronica returns after being absent from the last movie, and it looks like she and Dante were going to [[spoiler: rekindle their relationship]]. Unfortunately, apart from a few cameos during filming for Randal's movie and Dante's funeral, she only plays a pivotal part in one scene.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Veronica returns after being absent from the last movie, and it looks like she and Dante were going to [[spoiler: rekindle their relationship]]. Unfortunately, apart from a few cameos during filming for Randal's movie and Dante's funeral, she only plays a pivotal part in one scene. This was somewhat acknowledged by Smith during a con panel, when he said that Veronica's scene was intentionally written to be completely optional, so that he could cut it if need be, but Marilyn Ghigliotti wowed him so much with her performance, that he vowed to keep it in no matter what.
