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** Creator/RichardBurton's Marc Antony drinks a lot -- enough to be troped as TheAlcoholic on the main page.

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** Creator/RichardBurton's Marc Antony drinks a lot -- enough to be troped as TheAlcoholic on the main page. Burton would struggle with alcoholism throughout his life which took a massive toll on his health.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: Has a lot of impeccable decor designs, costume designs, and acting talent poured into it, but the TroubledProduction clearly shows in the final product. It won several Oscars in technical categories and was nominated for several others, but critical reception and audience reception was mostly lukewarm. The movie is still widely remembered and frequently seen owing to its scale, scope and polish, and it still has many defenders mostly because there's no way a movie would be made the same way today.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: Has a lot of impeccable decor designs, costume designs, and acting talent poured into it, but the TroubledProduction clearly shows in the final product.product: its pacing is disastrous, its screenplay is forgettable, and even the action sequences seem dated even for the period and fail to capture much attention. It won several Oscars in technical categories and was nominated for several others, but critical reception and audience reception was mostly lukewarm. The movie is still widely remembered and frequently seen owing to its scale, scope and polish, and it still has many defenders mostly because there's no way a movie would be made the same way today.
* StrangledByTheRedString: While Cleopatra and Caesar's relationship develops gradually and naturally, Cleopatra and Mark Antony have few scenes together before they declare that they're soulmates and have always loved each other since their (offscreen) meetings. Despite the film centering on their tragic love story and having hours of runtime devoted to it, the actual romance comes across as rather shallow compared to how the film is marketed.
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** The final scene is a little hard to watch knowing that Elizabeth Taylor had recently attempted suicide in RealLife.
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** Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination in that category...due to a regrettable error on the part of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox."

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** Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination in that category...due to a regrettable error on the part of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox."
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** Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category...due to a regrettable error on the part of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox."

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** Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination in that category...due to a regrettable error on the part of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox."
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** At the time, studio execs thought the public would see the film mainly for Creator/RichardBurton and Ceator/ElizabethTaylor - resulting in the planned two-parter being cut down to one film (the first would have focused mainly on Cleopatra and Caesar).

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** At the time, studio execs thought the public would see the film mainly for Creator/RichardBurton and Ceator/ElizabethTaylor Creator/ElizabethTaylor - resulting in the planned two-parter being cut down to one film (the first would have focused mainly on Cleopatra and Caesar).

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* AwardSnub: Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox."

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Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . category...due to a regrettable error on the part of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox.""
** The film was nominated for Best Picture, but Creator/JosephLMankiewicz wasn't up for Best Director. While Creator/RexHarrison's performance was nominated, Creator/RichardBurton and Creator/ElizabethTaylor weren't.



* PresumedFlop: Despite all the production disasters, the film was a financial success and the most successful film of the year. However, even that couldn't recoup it's enormous budget, which almost ruined Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox.

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* PresumedFlop: Despite all the production disasters, the film was a financial success and the most successful film of the year. However, even that couldn't recoup it's enormous budget, which almost ruined Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox.



** Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].

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** Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].Creator/CarrollOConnor.
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* AudienceColoringAdaptation: Most modern depictions (or parodies) of Cleopatra's life will homage this film in some way - particularly one of the costumes Elizabeth Taylor wears. Even ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedOrigins'' takes a lot of cues from the film such as when Cleopatra and Caesar are discussing about UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat in his mausoleum.

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* AudienceColoringAdaptation: Most modern depictions (or parodies) of Cleopatra's life will homage this film in some way - particularly one of the costumes Elizabeth Taylor wears. Even ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedOrigins'' takes a lot of cues from the film such as when Cleopatra and Caesar are discussing about UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat in while on his mausoleum.
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* AudienceColoringAdaptation: Most modern depictions (or parodies) of Cleopatra's life will homage this film in some way - particularly one of the costumes Elizabeth Taylor wears.

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* AudienceColoringAdaptation: Most modern depictions (or parodies) of Cleopatra's life will homage this film in some way - particularly one of the costumes Elizabeth Taylor wears. Even ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedOrigins'' takes a lot of cues from the film such as when Cleopatra and Caesar are discussing about UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat in his mausoleum.
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* SignatureScene: Cleopatra's dramatic entrance into Rome atop a giant sphinx, capped by her winking at Caesar.
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* AwardSnub: Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox."
* CoupleBomb: The most notable bomb featuring Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton starring together, and probably the most remembered. However ''Theatre/TheTamingOfTheShrew'' and ''Film/WhosAfraidOfVirginiaWoolf'' - the two films they did that weren't bombs - are more remembered than their other flops.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Roddy [=McDowall=] came away looking quite good in spite of the film's failure, some feeling his performance comes close to overshadowing the three leads. As noted above, he only missed out on a Best Supporting Actor nomination due to a clerical mistake.

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* AwardSnub: Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox.Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox."
* CoupleBomb: The most notable bomb featuring Elizabeth Taylor Creator/ElizabethTaylor and Richard Burton Creator/RichardBurton starring together, and probably the most remembered. However ''Theatre/TheTamingOfTheShrew'' and ''Film/WhosAfraidOfVirginiaWoolf'' - the two films they did that weren't bombs - are more remembered than their other flops.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Roddy [=McDowall=] Creator/RoddyMcDowall came away looking quite good in spite of the film's failure, some feeling his performance comes close to overshadowing the three leads. As noted above, he only missed out on a Best Supporting Actor nomination due to a clerical mistake.



** Richard Burton's Marc Antony drinks a lot-- enough to be troped as TheAlcoholic on the main page.

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** Richard Burton's Creator/RichardBurton's Marc Antony drinks a lot-- lot -- enough to be troped as TheAlcoholic on the main page.



** At the time, studio execs thought the public would see the film mainly for Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor - resulting in the planned two-parter being cut down to one film (the first would have focused mainly on Cleopatra and Caesar).
** A lot of modern viewers will watch just for the stunning costumes worn by Cleopatra - Elizabeth Taylor even set a record for 65 costume changes in the film.

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** At the time, studio execs thought the public would see the film mainly for Richard Burton Creator/RichardBurton and Elizabeth Taylor Ceator/ElizabethTaylor - resulting in the planned two-parter being cut down to one film (the first would have focused mainly on Cleopatra and Caesar).
** A lot of modern viewers will watch just for the stunning costumes worn by Cleopatra - Elizabeth Taylor even set a record for 65 costume changes in the film.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: People would be surprised if you told them this was actually a remake of a 1917 film that was lost in a 1937 fire.
* AudienceColoringAdaptation: Most modern depictions (or parodies) of Cleopatra's life will homage this film in some way - particularly one of the costumes Elizabeth Taylor wears.



* {{Hilarious|InHindsight}}[=/=]HarsherInHindsight: Richard Burton's Marc Antony drinks a lot-- enough to be troped as TheAlcoholic on the main page.

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* {{Hilarious|InHindsight}}[=/=]HarsherInHindsight: CoupleBomb: The most notable bomb featuring Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton starring together, and probably the most remembered. However ''Theatre/TheTamingOfTheShrew'' and ''Film/WhosAfraidOfVirginiaWoolf'' - the two films they did that weren't bombs - are more remembered than their other flops.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Roddy [=McDowall=] came away looking quite good in spite of the film's failure, some feeling his performance comes close to overshadowing the three leads. As noted above, he only missed out on a Best Supporting Actor nomination due to a clerical mistake.
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Richard Burton's Marc Antony drinks a lot-- enough to be troped as TheAlcoholic on the main page.page.
** A film being heavily edited to capitalize on the public interest surrounding the romance of two of its stars? This would be repeated decades later with ''{{Film/Gigli}}'' - which would also become an infamous bomb.
* JustHereForGodzilla:
** At the time, studio execs thought the public would see the film mainly for Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor - resulting in the planned two-parter being cut down to one film (the first would have focused mainly on Cleopatra and Caesar).
** A lot of modern viewers will watch just for the stunning costumes worn by Cleopatra - Elizabeth Taylor even set a record for 65 costume changes in the film.


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* OvershadowedByControversy: You can't even mention this film without bringing to mind the legendary TroubledProduction.

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* AwardSnub: Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox.".

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* AwardSnub: Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox."."
* {{Hilarious|InHindsight}}[=/=]HarsherInHindsight: Richard Burton's Marc Antony drinks a lot-- enough to be troped as TheAlcoholic on the main page.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In the second part of the movie, there is hardly a scene where Mark Antony is not drinking. Richard Burton had serious problems with alcohol, including on the set.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In the second part of the movie, there is hardly a scene where Mark Antony is not drinking. Richard Burton had serious problems with alcohol, including on the set.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: Has a lot of impeccable decor designs, costume designs, and acting talent poured into it, but the TroubledProduction clearly shows in the final product. It won several Oscars in technical categories and was nominated for several others, but critical reception and audience reception was mostly lukewarm.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: Has a lot of impeccable decor designs, costume designs, and acting talent poured into it, but the TroubledProduction clearly shows in the final product. It won several Oscars in technical categories and was nominated for several others, but critical reception and audience reception was mostly lukewarm. The movie is still widely remembered and frequently seen owing to its scale, scope and polish, and it still has many defenders mostly because there's no way a movie would be made the same way today.
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** UK sitcom fans may be similarly called to retroactive recognition by Richard O'Sullivan as the Pharoah Ptolemy, Cleopatra's ill fated sibling. A decade later he would rise to fame as star of ''Series/ManAboutTheHouse''.

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** UK sitcom fans may be similarly called to retroactive recognition by Richard O'Sullivan as the Pharoah Ptolemy, Cleopatra's ill fated sibling. A decade later he would rise to fame as star of ''Series/ManAboutTheHouse''.''Series/ManAboutTheHouse''.
* SoOkayItsAverage: Has a lot of impeccable decor designs, costume designs, and acting talent poured into it, but the TroubledProduction clearly shows in the final product. It won several Oscars in technical categories and was nominated for several others, but critical reception and audience reception was mostly lukewarm.
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* MoneyMakingShot: Quite a few, the most prominent being Cleopatra's big show off arrival in Rome and the naval battle.
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* Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].

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* ** Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].

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* RetroactiveRecognition: MoralEventHorizon: [[UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}} Octavian]] crosses this line when he has the title character's young son Caesarion murdered to secure his claim to the throne of Rome. This was [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade a significant departure from history done to make Octavian seem eviler]]; the RealLife Caesarion was in his late teens at the time of his death (well into adulthood by the standards of the day) rather than the ten or twelve the film portrays him, and was killed ''after'' his mother's suicide, meaning the TearJerker scene where she realizes he is dead did not happen in reality, nor could it have.
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Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].
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* AwardSnub: Roddy [=McDowall=] was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox.".

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* AwardSnub: Roddy [=McDowall=] Creator/RoddyMcDowall was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox.".
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** UK sitcom fans may be similarly called to retroactive recognition by Richard O'Sullivan as the Pharoah Ptolemy, Cleopatra's ill fated sibling. A decade later he would rise to fame as star of ''[[Series/ManAboutTheHouse]].

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** UK sitcom fans may be similarly called to retroactive recognition by Richard O'Sullivan as the Pharoah Ptolemy, Cleopatra's ill fated sibling. A decade later he would rise to fame as star of ''[[Series/ManAboutTheHouse]].''Series/ManAboutTheHouse''.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].Bunker]].
** UK sitcom fans may be similarly called to retroactive recognition by Richard O'Sullivan as the Pharoah Ptolemy, Cleopatra's ill fated sibling. A decade later he would rise to fame as star of ''[[Series/ManAboutTheHouse]].
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* AwardSnub: Roddy [=McDowall=] was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to McDowall: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox.".

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* AwardSnub: Roddy [=McDowall=] was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to McDowall: [=McDowall=]: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox.".
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* AwardSnub: Roddy [=McDowall=] was originally nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but the studio erroneously listed him as a leading player rather than a supporting one. When Fox asked the Academy to correct the error, it refused, saying the ballots already were at the printer. Fox then published an open letter in the trade papers, apologizing to McDowall: "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in ''Cleopatra'', which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of 20th Century-Fox.".
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].
* SoBadItsGood

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].
* SoBadItsGood
Bunker]].
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* GrowingTheBeard: Mark Antony.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].Bunker]].
* SoBadItsGood
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Casca, one of Caesar's assassins, is played by Carroll O'Connor, famous for his role as [[AllInTheFamily [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]].

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