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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Although Claude is the only character whose actions the narrative evaluates, it's not hard to dislike Sirène and Cécilia after they reject him, use him, or even betray him.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: It becomes difficult to read the story as it progresses; the rare positive character either suffers or dies, and Claude's only LoveInterest- with whom he could be expected to have a happy life- is rejected at the very beginning.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Rosemarie is quite liked by fans. Although she behaves quite stupidly in some scenes, she's still the only person after Claude's father who fully sees Claude as male and is ready to give him any support. Moreover, she sincerely loves him, even when he refuses her and shows interest in other girls. Moreover, the last chapter implies that she [[spoiler: never married, remaining faithful to Claude even after his death]].
%%* JerkassWoobie: Louis has severe problems, but none of them justify his jerk-assery [[spoiler: and murderous streak]].
%%* JerkassWoobie: Louis has severe problems, but none of them justify his jerk-assery [[spoiler: and murderous streak]].
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Rosemarie is quite liked by fans. Although she behaves quite stupidly in some scenes, she's still the only person after Claude's father who fully sees Claude as male and is ready to give him any support. Moreover, she sincerely loves him, even when he refuses her and shows interest in other girls. Moreover, the The last chapter implies that she [[spoiler: never [[spoiler:never married, instead remaining faithful to Claude even after his death]].
%%* * JerkassWoobie: Louis [[spoiler:Louis learning that his lover, Auguste, has severe problems, but none of them justify been cheating on him with his jerk-assery [[spoiler: and sister has got to hurt. That in no way absolves him of going on a murderous streak]].rampage.]]
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%%* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Louis's murder of his sister and his former lover.]]
* {{Narm}}: Most of the surprise scenes look too cartoonish and TheComicallySerious, not to mention [[spoiler: Louis's cheerful face in the last scene with his appearance and Claude's death scene, where- due to a strange perspective- his corpse looks like a dummy floating in the air]].
* StrangledByTheRedString: Claude and Sirène's relationship doesn't get much development despite how she seems to accept his transness without much trouble and their bond being portrayed as the deepest, most meaningful romance of Claude's life.
* {{Narm}}: Most of the surprise scenes look too cartoonish and TheComicallySerious, not to mention [[spoiler: Louis's cheerful face in the last scene with his appearance and Claude's death scene, where- due to a strange perspective- his corpse looks like a dummy floating in the air]].
* StrangledByTheRedString: Claude and Sirène's relationship doesn't get much development despite how she seems to accept his transness without much trouble and their bond being portrayed as the deepest, most meaningful romance of Claude's life.
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* ValuesResonance: ''Claudine'' takes place in early 20th century France and was published in 1970s Japan, but the pain Claude suffers due to being [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} trans]] is relevant decades later. The manga's treatment of Claude's transgender status is a much more frank and sympathetic portrayal than the treatment of other transgender characters in most modern manga and anime. Instead of being portrayed as a comic relief ButchLesbian, Claude is written as a person with his own strengths and weaknesses who just so happens to be trans. And his transgender status doesn't mean he's less deserving of respect.
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* ValuesResonance: ''Claudine'' takes place in early 20th century France and was published in 1970s Japan, but the pain bigotry Claude suffers faces due to being [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} trans]] is relevant decades later. The manga's treatment of Claude's transgender status is a much more frank and sympathetic portrayal than the treatment of other transgender characters in most modern manga and anime. some media that came out even a couple years ago. Instead of being portrayed as a comic relief ButchLesbian, Claude is written as a person with his own strengths and weaknesses who just so happens to be trans. And trans, and his transgender status doesn't mean he's less deserving of respect.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Rosemarie is quite liked by fans. Although she behaves quite stupid in some scenes, she's still the only person after Claude's father who fully sees Claude as male and is ready to give him any support. Moreover, she sincerely loves him, even when he refuses her and shows interest in other girls. Moreover, the last chapter implies that she [[spoiler: never married, remaining faithful to Claude even after his death]].
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Rosemarie is quite liked by fans. Although she behaves quite stupid stupidly in some scenes, she's still the only person after Claude's father who fully sees Claude as male and is ready to give him any support. Moreover, she sincerely loves him, even when he refuses her and shows interest in other girls. Moreover, the last chapter implies that she [[spoiler: never married, remaining faithful to Claude even after his death]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Did Rosemarie [[spoiler: intentionally rat out Louis about Cecilia, Claude and Auguste]]? Or did she just blab it out without really thinking? To be fair no matter what you believe, there was '''no''' way she could've known that [[spoiler: Louis would ''flip the fuck out'' in the horrible way that he did.]]
** We are understand that Rosemarie is in love with Claude exactly as a male. Is this the result of his boyish appearance, or is she just an ordinary anime LipstickLesbian, whom attracted to {{Tomboy}} girls? Or is she just a pansexual for whom all this does not matter?
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Rosemarie. Although she behaves quite stupid in some scenes, she is still the only person after his father who fully sees Claude as a male and is ready to give him any support. Moreover, she sincerely loves him, even when he refuses her and shows interest in other girls. Moreover, the last chapter implies that she [[spoiler: never married, remaining faithful to Claude even after his death]].
* JerkassWoobie: Louis. He has severe problems, but it does NOT justify his jerk-assery [[spoiler: and murderous streak]].
* {{Moe}}: Maura. Her relationship with Claude is pure {{Squee}}.
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Louis's murder of his sister and his former lover.]]
* {{Narm}}: Enough and unintentionally, given that this is a tragic love story, although this work is devoid of the author's traditional WorldOfHam. In particular, most of the surprise scenes look too cartoonish and TheComicallySerious, not to mention [[spoiler: Luis's cheerful face in the last scene with his appearance and Claude's death scene, where, due to a strange perspective, his corpse looks like a dummy in the air]].
* StrangledByTheRedString: Claude and Sirene's relationship doesn't get much development, despite how she seems to accept his transgender status without much trouble and their bond being portrayed as the deepest, most meaningful romance of Claude's life. Part of the reason Claude and Rosemarie are a FanPreferredCouple is that she gets more CharacterDevelopment than any of Claude's love interests.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: It becomes difficult to read the story as it progresses, as rare positive characters either suffer or die, while Claude's only {{Love Interest|s}}, with whom he could be expected to have a happy life, is rejected at the very beginning.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Although Claude is the only character whose actions the author evaluates, it's not hard to dislike Sirene and Cecilia after they reject him, use him or even betray him.
* ValuesResonance: ''Claudine...!'' takes place in early 20th century France and was published in 1970s Japan, but the pain Claude suffers due to being a [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} trans person]] is still very relevant. In addition, the manga's treatment of Claude's transgender status is much more frank, sympathetic and respectful than the treatment of transgender characters in most modern manga and anime (where they're often portrayed as [[TransEqualsGay gay people]] cranked up to eleven or used solely for comic relief). Basically, Claude doesn't go through what's already described -- but he's shown as [[HumansAreFlawed a human person with both flaws and strengths, and who deserves basic respect no matter what.]]
* ViewerGenderConfusion: A very interesting example. Although we know from the very beginning that Claude is a transgender man, the further the story develops, the more it becomes courageous and the more the reader begins to perceive him as a young man.
** Did Rosemarie [[spoiler: intentionally rat out Louis about Cecilia, Claude and Auguste]]? Or did she just blab it out without really thinking? To be fair no matter what you believe, there was '''no''' way she could've known that [[spoiler: Louis would ''flip the fuck out'' in the horrible way that he did.]]
** We are understand that Rosemarie is in love with Claude exactly as a male. Is this the result of his boyish appearance, or is she just an ordinary anime LipstickLesbian, whom attracted to {{Tomboy}} girls? Or is she just a pansexual for whom all this does not matter?
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Rosemarie. Although she behaves quite stupid in some scenes, she is still the only person after his father who fully sees Claude as a male and is ready to give him any support. Moreover, she sincerely loves him, even when he refuses her and shows interest in other girls. Moreover, the last chapter implies that she [[spoiler: never married, remaining faithful to Claude even after his death]].
* JerkassWoobie: Louis. He has severe problems, but it does NOT justify his jerk-assery [[spoiler: and murderous streak]].
* {{Moe}}: Maura. Her relationship with Claude is pure {{Squee}}.
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Louis's murder of his sister and his former lover.]]
* {{Narm}}: Enough and unintentionally, given that this is a tragic love story, although this work is devoid of the author's traditional WorldOfHam. In particular, most of the surprise scenes look too cartoonish and TheComicallySerious, not to mention [[spoiler: Luis's cheerful face in the last scene with his appearance and Claude's death scene, where, due to a strange perspective, his corpse looks like a dummy in the air]].
* StrangledByTheRedString: Claude and Sirene's relationship doesn't get much development, despite how she seems to accept his transgender status without much trouble and their bond being portrayed as the deepest, most meaningful romance of Claude's life. Part of the reason Claude and Rosemarie are a FanPreferredCouple is that she gets more CharacterDevelopment than any of Claude's love interests.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: It becomes difficult to read the story as it progresses, as rare positive characters either suffer or die, while Claude's only {{Love Interest|s}}, with whom he could be expected to have a happy life, is rejected at the very beginning.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Although Claude is the only character whose actions the author evaluates, it's not hard to dislike Sirene and Cecilia after they reject him, use him or even betray him.
* ValuesResonance: ''Claudine...!'' takes place in early 20th century France and was published in 1970s Japan, but the pain Claude suffers due to being a [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} trans person]] is still very relevant. In addition, the manga's treatment of Claude's transgender status is much more frank, sympathetic and respectful than the treatment of transgender characters in most modern manga and anime (where they're often portrayed as [[TransEqualsGay gay people]] cranked up to eleven or used solely for comic relief). Basically, Claude doesn't go through what's already described -- but he's shown as [[HumansAreFlawed a human person with both flaws and strengths, and who deserves basic respect no matter what.]]
* ViewerGenderConfusion: A very interesting example. Although we know from the very beginning that Claude is a transgender man, the further the story develops, the more it becomes courageous and the more the reader begins to perceive him as a young man.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** DidAlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Rosemarie [[spoiler: intentionally rat out Louis about Cecilia, Claude and Auguste]]? Or did she just blab it out without really thinking? To be fair no matter what you believe, there was '''no''' way she could've known that [[spoiler: Louis would ''flip the fuck out'' in the horrible way that he did.]]
** We are understand that Rosemarie isin love with Claude exactly as a male. Is this the result because of his boyish appearance, or is she just an ordinary anime LipstickLesbian, whom a LipstickLesbian who's attracted to {{Tomboy}} girls? {{Tomboy}}s? Or is she just a pansexual for whom all none this does not matter?
matters?
* EnsembleDarkhorse:Rosemarie. Rosemarie is quite liked by fans. Although she behaves quite stupid in some scenes, she is she's still the only person after his Claude's father who fully sees Claude as a male and is ready to give him any support. Moreover, she sincerely loves him, even when he refuses her and shows interest in other girls. Moreover, the last chapter implies that she [[spoiler: never married, remaining faithful to Claude even after his death]].
* %%* JerkassWoobie: Louis. He Louis has severe problems, but it does NOT none of them justify his jerk-assery [[spoiler: and murderous streak]].
* {{Moe}}:Maura. Her relationship with Claude Maura is pure {{Squee}}.
*an adorable, hardworking maid who you just want to hug.
%%* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Louis's murder of his sister and his former lover.]]
* {{Narm}}:Enough and unintentionally, given that this is a tragic love story, although this work is devoid of the author's traditional WorldOfHam. In particular, most Most of the surprise scenes look too cartoonish and TheComicallySerious, not to mention [[spoiler: Luis's Louis's cheerful face in the last scene with his appearance and Claude's death scene, where, where- due to a strange perspective, perspective- his corpse looks like a dummy floating in the air]].
* StrangledByTheRedString: Claude andSirene's Sirène's relationship doesn't get much development, development despite how she seems to accept his transgender status transness without much trouble and their bond being portrayed as the deepest, most meaningful romance of Claude's life. Part of the reason Claude and Rosemarie are a FanPreferredCouple is that she gets more CharacterDevelopment than any of Claude's love interests.
life.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: It becomes difficult to read the story as itprogresses, as progresses; the rare positive characters character either suffer suffers or die, while dies, and Claude's only {{Love Interest|s}}, LoveInterest- with whom he could be expected to have a happy life, life- is rejected at the very beginning.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Although Claude is the only character whose actions theauthor narrative evaluates, it's not hard to dislike Sirene Sirène and Cecilia Cécilia after they reject him, use him him, or even betray him.
* ValuesResonance:''Claudine...!'' ''Claudine'' takes place in early 20th century France and was published in 1970s Japan, but the pain Claude suffers due to being a [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} trans person]] trans]] is still very relevant. In addition, the relevant decades later. The manga's treatment of Claude's transgender status is a much more frank, frank and sympathetic and respectful portrayal than the treatment of other transgender characters in most modern manga and anime (where they're often anime. Instead of being portrayed as [[TransEqualsGay gay people]] cranked up to eleven or used solely for a comic relief). Basically, relief ButchLesbian, Claude is written as a person with his own strengths and weaknesses who just so happens to be trans. And his transgender status doesn't go through what's already described -- but mean he's shown as [[HumansAreFlawed a human person with both flaws and strengths, and who deserves basic respect no matter what.]]
* ViewerGenderConfusion: A very interesting example. Although we know from the very beginning that Claude is a transgender man, the further the story develops, the more it becomes courageous and the more the reader begins to perceive him as a young man.less deserving of respect.
** Did
** We are understand that Rosemarie is
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
* {{Moe}}:
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%%* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Louis's murder of his sister and his former lover.]]
* {{Narm}}:
* StrangledByTheRedString: Claude and
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: It becomes difficult to read the story as it
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Although Claude is the only character whose actions the
* ValuesResonance:
* ViewerGenderConfusion: A very interesting example. Although we know from the very beginning that Claude is a transgender man, the further the story develops, the more it becomes courageous and the more the reader begins to perceive him as a young man.
